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Screen color quality compared to note 2 seems off.

I have a Galaxy Note 2 as well as this galaxy note tablet. I've been putting both devices side by side to compare screen quality amongst other things. I did a dead pixel test that would just display a full screen of different colors and when I did so I noticed that on the tablet colors seemed a little washed out like if there was too much white in the colors. For example when I would put the screen entirely red my note 2 would display a rich full red color like it's supposed to be shown and my tablet would show a red that seems like it was a little light in color as if there was like some type of white mixed in I'm not really sure how to describe it . I would like to know what other note 10.1 users think about this and if it's a problem with my device . If anyone has a note 2 or a galaxy s3 and is willing to compare color side by side to tell me if they notice any genetic difference like I do I would greatly appreciate it that way I can find out whether to take this thing back or not. This weekend I will be at Best Buy comparing but I wanted to post this first to see what kind of input I get. Thanks any thing will be greatly appreciated.
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You can't compare an AMOLED Display with a simple LCD Display .
-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_crystal_display
-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMOLED

pezlomd said:
I have a Galaxy Note 2 as well as this galaxy note tablet. I've been putting both devices side by side to compare screen quality amongst other things. I did a dead pixel test that would just display a full screen of different colors and when I did so I noticed that on the tablet colors seemed a little washed out like if there was too much white in the colors. For example when I would put the screen entirely red my note 2 would display a rich full red color like it's supposed to be shown and my tablet would show a red that seems like it was a little light in color as if there was like some type of white mixed in I'm not really sure how to describe it . I would like to know what other note 10.1 users think about this and if it's a problem with my device . If anyone has a note 2 or a galaxy s3 and is willing to compare color side by side to tell me if they notice any genetic difference like I do I would greatly appreciate it that way I can find out whether to take this thing back or not. This weekend I will be at Best Buy comparing but I wanted to post this first to see what kind of input I get. Thanks any thing will be greatly appreciated.
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Acquaint yourself with the XDA rules. This is in no way a development thread.
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I posted this in general.. is that not accepted?
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I have a N2 also and agree with you that the color temperature and tones are different. But I think the 10.1's colors are truer and without the exageration you typically get with (S)AMOLED displays. They are both good displays and I'm happy with both but, like someone above said, you can't compare an AMOLED display's color reproduction and contrast with any LCD display.

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I posted this in general.. is that not accepted?
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Question and Answers to be 100% correct if its a question .
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pezlomd said:
I posted this in general.. is that not accepted?
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You didn't post this in "General". You posted it in "Original Development" and a mod moved it to "General" where it belongs. No. Posting this in any development forum is not accepted.
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I honestly must have not noticed when posting this..my bad. I knew this belonged in general I just wasnt paying attention.
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If you go to Display-> Screen Mode and select the same on both does this help?
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If you go to Display-> Screen Mode and select the same on both does this help?
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No I've tried this but the note 10.1 clearly shows significant differences in color. The colors look lighter. Even when streaming video or pictures things look so different compared to note 2s screen..its a bit of a bummer actually. I don't care as much while I'm on the tablet but when I look at my phone for anything its an immediate difference. Now I'm second thoughts bout the nexus 10. I love this note tho the multitasking is next level. But for the price the screen and creeky sounding build quality is getting to me.
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Like already mentioned. You can't compare a LCD to a amoled display. The amoled display is renown for rich colors, so if you put the N2 beside the note
10.1 u will most certainly have nicer colors on the N2.
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Like already mentioned. You can't compare a LCD to a amoled display. The amoled display is renown for rich colors, so if you put the N2 beside the note
10.1 u will most certainly have nicer colors on the N2.
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"Nicer" is very subjective! Some people like "bright and vivid" like on the Note 2. I prefer the more natural colours that I have on the Note 10.1 - especially for photos.
Each to his own!

Well apart from the n2. The nexus 7 also has those deeper richer colors. I'm aware of the differences in screens that cause the differences in color but just wanted to do some comparing since I spent 500$ on this bad boy.
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Y'all do know this can be adjusted in settings. I use natural on my n2, and leave the tablet as is

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Sry man, but it had to be like this, cause everybody know, (almost as I see) that the note 2 has the same hd superamoled technology like galaxy s3 and not PLS-LCD (samsung version of IPS) like the note 10.1. You just cant compare these 2^^ but I'm not the only one who's thinking that way.
cheers

Off topic.. Does anyone here notice the tablet makes those lil creek noises from the plastic body? I know its normal but man mine creeks so much with such little movement. Also my main purpose of this thread was to make sure I didn't have a lemon I don't trust best buy too much and I just wanted to confirm that my screen is acting normal.
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Still though nexus 7 has deeper richer colors.. Is that not an LCD too? What kind of screen does nexus 7 have?
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Mine doesn't creak at all. I wonder if you got one with a build issue? You might want to try exchanging it.
For what it's worth, I have a Nexus 7 as well. I returned the first one because it had that screen lift issue. The 2nd one I decided to live with even though I think it has the faded color issue. It's so weird. The graphics are certainly less pixelated with my Nexus, but the less vibrant colors actually make my Note look better than the Nexus unless I'm peering at it really close up.

pezlomd said:
Off topic.. Does anyone here notice the tablet makes those lil creek noises from the plastic body? I know its normal but man mine creeks so much with such little movement. Also my main purpose of this thread was to make sure I didn't have a lemon I don't trust best buy too much and I just wanted to confirm that my screen is acting normal.
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Mine does not do this. You may want to have yours exchanged. Of course I treat my tablet like a baby so I'm not really twisting it hulk style.

Yea I treat mine like a baby too but man the creeking is horrible..I'm going to best buy to exchange it. I love the note no other tablet does what it does. Love the thing. I just been having a bad experience I guess with the build quality. Thanks everyone for their feedback.. Really means a lot.
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Use front camera as light sensor

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thank you very much!!!

thanks for sharing i test it and it's working good :thumbsup:

It says not compatible with my device :/
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Thanks, installed, but can only use it in "wake on mode", meaning it scans the light value when the phone wakes up, is there any way of setting it to auto-brightness in it's usual meaning, like constantly adjusting the brightness level?
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Calculating Infinity said:
Thanks, installed, but can only use it in "wake on mode", meaning it scans the light value when the phone wakes up, is there any way of setting it to auto-brightness in it's usual meaning, like constantly adjusting the brightness level?
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why you need this...ur not even using your phone when the lights go off, & also I think if you did that the battery will drain in crazy speed
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I found this option to when to adjust your brightness
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Well lets say I turn my phone on while I'm in a dark spot, so the brightness sets to low level, but then I enter a room with more light, or exit on the street so the brightness gets too low. Get it? I'd like to have the auto-brightness, otherwise I can set the level manually, as I'm used to.
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Hi! Thanks for this thread I have (noob) question Is there some possibillity, that s iii mini has light sensor on board, but it is dissabled (by kernel on by something)?
I am maybe totally wrong, but on front side is camera, proximity sensor and third "circle" where could be light sensor???
We dont't have otg support by defaul, but it can wokrs so why not light sensor?

Some state it does, some that it does not. I believe it does not, since I dont see why sammy wouldn't include the sofware for it in the first place.
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then why we have a otg hardware support but we can't enable it unless by a custom kernel

Someone who works at a service center may know how the hardware looks better.
Or someone can risk flashing an s advance rom, it has same hardware right?
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Pezmet said:
Someone who works at a service center may know how the hardware looks better.
Or someone can risk flashing an s advance rom, it has same hardware right?
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Oh, no. Even if you remove the device name checks from the updater-script and make it flash somehow, you're bricking it. Let the hardware be same. It will brick.
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Ok so we need an ALS chip (ambient light sensor) somewhere on the mother board. If we have this we need to include in the kernel drivers, closest mach would be i8160. We might run an easy test with such a kernel and the display setting coded in to a rom from the same i8160.
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How did you set your simple link for Lume.. i have just 1 and 255 ?
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why we afford to risk with flashing a new kernel while if someone can take our phone to some hardware specialist open the phone guts...and search for a light sensor...
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Robi959 said:
How did you set your simple link for Lume.. i have just 1 and 255 ?
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Touch the 1 or 255 yellow bars and you can edit them.
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Hi! Today I was cleaning my s iii mini and I looked under front cover, where is proximity sensor and found there something like this. So I thing that we have brightness sensor too, but question is, if it is hw disconnected or only sw disabled???
I was thinking about it and I have question: Is possible to port ROM from Samsung Galaxy S Advance to our mini? Both phones are similar and this tutorial should help.
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Here is picture, how it looks in real
It is from this video.

somin.n said:
Hi! Today I was cleaning my s iii mini and I looked under front cover, where is proximity sensor and found there something like this. So I thing that we have brightness sensor too, but question is, if it is hw disconnected or only sw disabled???
I was thinking about it and I have question: Is possible to port ROM from Samsung Galaxy S Advance to our mini? Both phones are similar and this tutorial should help.
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Here is picture, how it looks in real
It is from this video.
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this tutorial only work if we had a cm which we hasn't. ..yet
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Ipad 4 vs n7 2013 Screen comparison?

Can anyone give us an impression of what to expect from the screen of the n7? Viewing angles, brightness and color reproduction?
I use my ipad primarily for reading because it's got the best screen in the business right now but I really hate ios. I'm really hoping Asus fixed the lag problems and the screen with this new one.
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I don't personally have it but reviews say the contrast and view angles are second to none. Hugely improved over the first generation and better than the ipad. The brigthness is also really high, over 500 nits compared to about 260 on the first generation.

Full brightness is blinding.
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As long as you don't compare color saturation to the iPad. I am seriously underwhelmed by the flatness of the color on the new Nexus 7. Didn't think it could get worse than the previous model, but it did.
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What about viewing angles? Some people are complaining about light bleed on the edges too
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Cubfan99 said:
As long as you don't compare color saturation to the iPad. I am seriously underwhelmed by the flatness of the color on the new Nexus 7. Didn't think it could get worse than the previous model, but it did.
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Perhaps it'll support the faux app to increase the saturation.
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kingofthebraves said:
What about viewing angles? Some people are complaining about light bleed on the edges too
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No light bleed for me and viewing angles are awesome.
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Would you say brightness and viewing angles are on par with the s4?
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The brightness is so strong I don't think I'd go above two-thirds to max in the settings. Really enjoying mine - speed, brightness, app response.
Haven't done much with the camera yet.
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Not an iPad 4 but next to an iPad Mini it looks really good but not surprising.
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Did Asus fix the lag problems related to reading and writing to storage?
Ipad 4 and mini display are about on par when it comes to brightness and viewing angles. They only differ in pixel density.
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Um...the color saturation is infinitely better than the previous version- AND the ipad.

Compared with the ipad mini, it's way better.
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Thanks everybody. I'm sold to the new n7 and in really hope it doesn't disappoint like the first one.
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KDLMaj said:
Um...the color saturation is infinitely better than the previous version- AND the ipad.
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I don't know how anyone with eyes could say saturation is better than the iPad 3 or 4. If you turn up the brightness until your eyes bleed, the new Nexus 7 has better saturation than the previous. At lower usable brightness it is about the same or worse.
I keep waiting for an android tablet that will allow me to dump the iPad. This isn't it, and it will be going back to the store.
-- Sent from my Galaxy Note 2

Brian Klug over at Anandtech will put up his review or data at some point this weekend and he will have a detailed analysis of the screen as well as data to compare with both the iPad mini and 4.

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I don't know how anyone with eyes could say saturation is better than the iPad 3 or 4. If you turn up the brightness until your eyes bleed, the new Nexus 7 has better saturation than the previous. At lower usable brightness it is about the same or worse.
I keep waiting for an android tablet that will allow me to dump the iPad. This isn't it, and it will be going back to the store.
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Why not? Is there anything wrong with performance?
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kingofthebraves said:
Did Asus fix the lag problems related to reading and writing to storage?
Ipad 4 and mini display are about on par when it comes to brightness and viewing angles. They only differ in pixel density.
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Those problems were fixed by the 4.1.2 update...

tesztelem said:
Those problems were fixed by the 4.1.2 update...
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Nope. The problem is hardware related and not software. Even the entire transformer tablet line has the same issue. Everytime you try to do something in the background that is accessing storage everything just slows down.
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kingofthebraves said:
Did Asus fix the lag problems related to reading and writing to storage?
Ipad 4 and mini display are about on par when it comes to brightness and viewing angles. They only differ in pixel density.
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http://blog.gsmarena.com/new-and-ol...new-one-comes-out-on-top-by-quite-a-distance/

Has anyone experienced this ?

I pulled my phone from my pocket earlier today and the screen was like this. I suspect I may have a dodgy unit but has anyone else seen anything like this ?
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Is it always like that even when u boot the phone?
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No literally just happened now I've manage to get it back to normal but pressing around the edge of display however switching on off did nothing
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Im asking you this because I want to know if it is a software issue or hardware issue. So if when u boot the phone you see the same green waves screen on top of the black screen and the samsung logos then must likely it would be a hardware problem...
so need to check the water sensors etc. If u dont see the green waves then just do a full wipe if problem persist try flshing an other rom.
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I think this hardware issue. You need send phone tk service center to replace screen.
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Geez people, read the responses, it's a hardware problem... If you are squeezing around the edge and thi fixes it means there's a hardware problem....
You might have fixed this time but what might happen next time you put in your pocket?

No never,
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seems to me its hardware problem, get it fixed before it gets worse.

It is hardware, maybe you placed the phone in your pocket or applied some pressure on it.
If this re occurs, have the display replaced..

I've conacted Samsung and they've sent me a package to post the phone to their service centre . unfortunately there's a 2 week return time. In the mean time I've bought a moto g that my mum will buy off me when I'm done with it.
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It also now effects the entire screen and will not go away
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I did saw this symptom on my note 3. But not by pressing the edge. Just performing screen on by trigger the power button will do. But until now I just saw 3 times. Never happen again.
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I have seen this before, and if you take the phone into recovery, the screen is fine, only when you try to restart, it goes back to this, it has to be sent away to be fixed
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androidflea said:
I have seen this before, and if you take the phone into recovery, the screen is fine, only when you try to restart, it goes back to this, it has to be sent away to be fixed
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really, it is fine in recovery?

That's what I'm saying, it's fine in recovery!
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Did the update fix the auto brightness issue? or any finding on what has been fixed?

Does the update fix the auto brightness issue or any other issue that exist. So far happy with the update speed. This is quite amazon, really hope this can be persistent even after they released other new phone.

Auto brightness has been tweaked. At least the interface has. Never seen it say this before either.
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What auto brightness issue you referring to? If you mean the one where the screen will not automatically dim (and you have to uncheck auto then recheck it, or power the screen off then back on to get it to dim) then no, the update did not correct that.
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arcanexvi said:
Auto brightness has been tweaked. At least the interface has. Never seen it say this before either.
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That's really odd, because I updated my phone and I don't have that, even standing in direct sunlight with auto brightness on.

ingenious247 said:
That's really odd, because I updated my phone and I don't have that, even standing in direct sunlight with auto brightness on.
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I don't have it either.. Weird
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Click on auto then slide the bar back and forth and the text will come up
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ingenious247 said:
That's really odd, because I updated my phone and I don't have that, even standing in direct sunlight with auto brightness on.
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If you touch the slider does it pop up?
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YankInDaSouth said:
What auto brightness issue you referring to? If you mean the one where the screen will not automatically dim (and you have to uncheck auto then recheck it, or power the screen off then back on to get it to dim) then no, the update did not correct that.
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Yes, these issues. Unfortunately to hear that samsung didn't fix it in this update.

I have zero issues with auto brightness my phone adjusts just fine in direct sunlight and adjusts again when I go inside
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PapaMag said:
I have zero issues with auto brightness my phone adjusts just fine in direct sunlight and adjusts again when I go inside
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Same here... I do know what OP is talking about but I don't see it as a bug.
@op I mean, if you slide it yourself, why would it automatically slide? I guess it'd make more sense if Samsung disabled manually sliding it. I think that they allow us to manually slide it though for those situations where we'd like to override it temporarily. Idk, I don't think it'll get fixed as it isn't actually a bug. Maybe they'll add an option to disable the slider while on auto.

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I have zero issues with auto brightness my phone adjusts just fine in direct sunlight and adjusts again when I go inside
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Without turning the screen off and on again or unchecking the auto box and rechecking it?
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Yes I was just playing with my phone and walked to the window to look out and my screen adjusted automatically
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PapaMag said:
Yes I was just playing with my phone and walked to the window to look out and my screen adjusted automatically
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What happens when you walk away from the window? Will the screen dim while still on?
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Yes my screen adjusted as it is designed to
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Yes my screen adjusted as it is designed to
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Huh! Mine will not ... And this is my second decive. Only way I can get the screen to dim is to turn it off and on or uncheck / check the auto box.
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I just did the update.
I notice the following -
1) Excellent improvement regarding palm rejection. The edge sensitivity which on a scale of 1-10 was an 8 before in my case, is now a 1. The issue is almost none existent.
2) improved overall speed.