Hey all,
This is my first post in quite a while on XDA, since I was basically forced to move to IOS (my Ascend Mate 7 was stolen a few months ago ).
I really, really miss Android, and wish to return to the ecosystem that I love most by buying a "cheap and cheerful" Android device out of contract. Xiaomi devices have started popping up in my local stores, thus I was wondering if you guys can offer any insight on whether moving to the Redmi 2 would garner a satisfactory experience (coming from an iPhone 5s)? I wouldn't label myself as a power user anymore, though I am a huge fan of tweaking and ricing my phones, thus I do not need a octa-core gazillion GB RAM powerhouse (yet). Just enough to do all the usual phone stuff and perhaps play Downwell / Pocket Morties every once in a while. Does the Redmi stand up to these needs?
Also if I do pick one up I will absolutely stick a Cyanogenmod (or equivalent) ROM on the phone, thus can anyone comment on performance gain / loss after flashing a custom ROM? Are there any ROM suggestions for daily use (I probably won't flash a different ROM every week, but rather settle on the most stable and closest-to-stock ROM I can find)?
Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
Cheers! :good:
I think Redmi 2 Pro/Prime is still worth it, but not sure about 2/2A. Even miui 8 for redmi 2 is based on kitkat while pro/prime seems to be based on lollipop. Features like second space and other new things that miui 8 brings are absent from kitkat version.
Now, CM13 is getting pretty stable, and premaca and nick are working on Nougat and CM14, and not only this, it boots. Thee are not a lot of phones running Nougatand Redmi 2 is one of those few add to this the price and could sound ad a no-brainer.
Hello,
Many people already asked this question on many other forums, and they have been blamed by everyone because people consider stupid to buy an A1 and ask for a MIUI when you have Mi 5x that's identical and already run MIUI rom.
THOSE PHONES ARE NOT IDENTICAL
In fact, A1 runs LTE (4g) bands that Mi 5X doesn't have. In Italy the majority of the LTE is on Band 20 for example, and this is the reason why A1 is having lot of success like the other phones with a GLOBAL version (Redmi 4x/Redmi Note 4 Global etc).
What we're asking for is not a rom: the rom already exists.
What we're asking for is not a porting: the phone's HW is THE SAME so there's no need to work or fix anything.
We just need a way, a tweak, a solution, a trick, a "something" to avoid the A/B partition problem and flash the xiaomi.eu rom for Mi 5x on A1 to have a FULLY UNLOCKED phone that can use ALL THE LTE BANDS and also all the advantages of the MIUI rom.
Can somebody help us, now that you know that's not only matter of "PLS port MIUI on A1 cuz it's beautiful plz plz plz"
As italian, i'm totally afree with you...i just want the MIUI features and the 20 LTE band.
timeless241285 said:
Hello,
Many people already asked this question on many other forums, and they have been blamed by everyone because people consider stupid to buy an A1 and ask for a MIUI when you have Mi 5x that's identical and already run MIUI rom.
THOSE PHONES ARE NOT IDENTICAL
In fact, A1 runs LTE (4g) bands that Mi 5X doesn't have. In Italy the majority of the LTE is on Band 20 for example, and this is the reason why A1 is having lot of success like the other phones with a GLOBAL version (Redmi 4x/Redmi Note 4 Global etc).
What we're asking for is not a rom: the rom already exists.
What we're asking for is not a porting: the phone's HW is THE SAME so there's no need to work or fix anything.
We just need a way, a tweak, a solution, a trick, a "something" to avoid the A/B partition problem and flash the xiaomi.eu rom for Mi 5x on A1 to have a FULLY UNLOCKED phone that can use ALL THE LTE BANDS and also all the advantages of the MIUI rom.
Can somebody help us, now that you know that's not only matter of "PLS port MIUI on A1 cuz it's beautiful plz plz plz"
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But still, why do you need Miui so badly when you have stock Android ? Because of special features like dt2w and so ? That will come here also when custom kernel arrive.
NITRO_100 said:
But still, why do you need Miui so badly when you have stock Android ? Because of special features like dt2w and so ? That will come here also when custom kernel arrive.
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MIUI has an optimisation than stock Android hasn't. RAM cleaner on the Recent tabs, Security Center, Built-in call recording, sound recorder, dual space (that for dual SIM it's very important) and many others and features..
I guess when kernel source is available developer will be able to port miui regardless of band and any other limitations..
jack_21 said:
MIUI has an optimisation than stock Android hasn't. RAM cleaner on the Recent tabs, Security Center, Built-in call recording, sound recorder, dual space (that for dual SIM it's very important) and many others and features..
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Miui has very aggressive optimization that I hated, because many apps had misbehaved, I always turn that off. Ram cleaner is nonsense but you have it in stock android too. The options in security center, call recording, sound recorder can be achieved by 3rd party apps. Dual space is like 2nd account.
Don't get me wrong, I generally like miui but there isn't any option that I miss, and multitasking is way better in stock android, apps doesn't get killed after 10 minutes.
Stop forcing your opinion on others by asking why do we need MIUI when have stock android which is better. It is just basic preference. I like MIUI over stock android and perhaps over any custom rom. It is personal taste.
Do I know that MIUI is not as optimized as stock android? YES.
Do I still want it? YES.
IamSubhodeep said:
Stop forcing your opinion on others by asking why do we need MIUI when have stock android which is better. It is just basic preference. I like MIUI over stock android and perhaps over any custom rom. It is personal taste.
Do I know that MIUI is not as optimized as stock android? YES.
Do I still want it? YES.
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Stop asking for miui on an Android stock phone. Go for the mi5x instead , i know it lacks the B20 but life is hard.:good:
jlmcr87 said:
Stop asking for miui on an Android stock phone. Go for the mi5x instead , i know it lacks the B20 but life is hard.:good:
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We don't come on the XDA for philosophy classes. :|
I really hope that we'll be able to run MIUI on this device.
I already own a Mi A1.
IamSubhodeep said:
Stop forcing your opinion on others by asking why do we need MIUI when have stock android which is better. It is just basic preference. I like MIUI over stock android and perhaps over any custom rom. It is personal taste.
Do I know that MIUI is not as optimized as stock android? YES.
Do I still want it? YES.
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I guess that was meant for me (next time pls quote me). Well I have my opinion an I feel free to share it, as you share yours which I appreciate.
I still think that there is nothing that miui has that can not be achieved in stock android. It's just the cosmetics that bothers you. You knew that this phone is pure android, you knew that it has 2 partitions and you should have researched if there is miui rom/port available before you purchased it. Or better, you should purchased it when miui rom/port eventually will be available. And there are good phones from Xiaomi (global ones) even cheaper than this with Miui 9.
Btw, I believe someone (maybe you) will port miui after xiaomi release kernel source, but then we would be allready on Oreo.
NITRO_100 said:
I guess that was meant for me (next time pls quote me). Well I have my opinion an I feel free to share it, as you share yours which I appreciate.
I still think that there is nothing that miui has that can not be achieved in stock android. It's just the cosmetics that bothers you. You knew that this phone is pure android, you knew that it has 2 partitions and you should have researched if there is miui rom/port available before you purchased it. Or better, you should purchased it when miui rom/port eventually will be available. And there are good phones from Xiaomi (global ones) even cheaper than this with Miui 9.
Btw, I believe someone (maybe you) will port miui after xiaomi release kernel source, but then we would be allready on Oreo.
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It was not meant for you specifically. I have seen people bashing the MIUI users with the same comment on multiple forums.
And about porting, I know nothing about it. Waiting for you people to do that. I'll be grateful.
NITRO_100 said:
I still think that there is nothing that miui has that can not be achieved in stock android.
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Ok, then show me how can I achieve built in XiaomiAccount, Mi Cloud/Gallery, Mi App store, Xiaomi Notes, etc...
I don't care about the bells and whistles if these services working good!
And that fine grained permission management would be good, not that simple dull one from stock android.
Upo_hu said:
Ok, then show me how can I achieve built in XiaomiAccount, Mi Cloud/Gallery, Mi App store, Xiaomi Notes, etc...
I don't care about the bells and whistles if these services working good!
And that fine grained permission management would be good, not that simple dull one from stock android.
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And how is all that different then Google account, drive, photos, play store, keep which all are working great if not better then miui (especially the web versions) ? As I said, there is nothing in miui that can't be replaced. And what do you mean by dull permission management ?
And there are 2 ways of how you can achieve that: wait till xiaomi release kernel source and try to port miui rom, or get a global version (if you are in Europe) of some other Xiaomi device.
timeless241285 said:
Hello,
Many people already asked this question on many other forums, and they have been blamed by everyone because people consider stupid to buy an A1 and ask for a MIUI when you have Mi 5x that's identical and already run MIUI rom.
THOSE PHONES ARE NOT IDENTICAL
In fact, A1 runs LTE (4g) bands that Mi 5X doesn't have. In Italy the majority of the LTE is on Band 20 for example, and this is the reason why A1 is having lot of success like the other phones with a GLOBAL version (Redmi 4x/Redmi Note 4 Global etc).
What we're asking for is not a rom: the rom already exists.
What we're asking for is not a porting: the phone's HW is THE SAME so there's no need to work or fix anything.
We just need a way, a tweak, a solution, a trick, a "something" to avoid the A/B partition problem and flash the xiaomi.eu rom for Mi 5x on A1 to have a FULLY UNLOCKED phone that can use ALL THE LTE BANDS and also all the advantages of the MIUI rom.
Can somebody help us, now that you know that's not only matter of "PLS port MIUI on A1 cuz it's beautiful plz plz plz"
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Although I am not sure but I think that using Qualcomm Flash Tools you should be able to install Mi 5X ROM with Mi 5X partition table and get it up and running, but if these devices aren't that similar inside then you can end up with a hard brick. After flashing using QFIL you might have to flash Mi A1 modem for A1 band support...
PS: Don't do this and backup EFS and other critical partitions if you decide to do it anyway
But if we flash (on one of the a/b partition so you can set active the other in case you have make disaster) only the system and boot partition from Mi 5x fastboot official room, it may be enough?
Of course you will have to wipe data...
NITRO_100 said:
And there are 2 ways of how you can achieve that: wait till xiaomi release kernel source and try to port miui rom, or get a global version (if you are in Europe) of some other Xiaomi device.
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+1
The reason why I bought this phone is because I didn't want to throw 800e on Pixel, and I wanted a cheap phone with a pure android.This thing is a real successor of the Nexus line.
There are so many global versions of xiaomi devices outhere, that there is no need for this phone if all you want is a miui.But you can always try to port it. That's the beauty of development.
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Frankly, I don't know what is wrong for asking. Usually so called real technical people will tell people off if you want this why don't you buy that kind of argument. I see that the one that asks this question has nothing wrong. Everyone of us having such experience when we buy something from the market, we realise that there is a gap in functionality or even down the aesthetic feels, gestures or even some of the commands arrangement that looks stupid....etc, therefore, we asked for something we felt that has done very well, and wish that it could be done in this. If we always have to put up with what is in the box, we don't give the chance for the company to improve, and you ultimately don't help to improve the products.
After reading information from different forums, sometimes I felt sorry for those people who scoffed at people. Maybe you are protecting the brands, or protecting somethings that you feel so much attached to and disregard other people.
May I suggest that if you could not offer a better solutions, or if you think that this is not worth to do it. Just keep quiet and let other people try to answer. Or if you would like to encourage it, such as this example, a simple words like "I like the idea too!" will probably help. Words such as "No way there will be MIUI on Stock Android Phone...etc." If you believe so much about no way, would you willing to bet your neck on your chopping board? With enough incentives, someone will come out with a solution.
Sorry if I sound harsh, but this is how innovation and revolution comes about.
There is nothing wrong with asking. But there is everything wrong with asking the same question every day, in every section and always starting a new topic. You got the answer already, "currently not possible, if you want MIUI, but a device with MIUI". One would expect, that guys wanting MIUI will be satisfied, but no. They'll just create a new topic and ask the same question over and over again. If someone ports MIUI to A1, I'm pretty sure that there will be a proper topic and announcment for that.
Btw. words like "I want it too" can maybe help you to find similarly frustrated people, but that's it. Xiaomi won't read it. Google will not read it. Developers don't care, if they'll do it, it won't be because you want it (donation might be motivating though). Just look at Xposed for Nougat or Oreo topics, hundreds of useless posts like "waiting for an update..".
I would understand negative reactions if this thread would request Xiaomi to replace Android Stock with MIUI on all Mi A1 models for good! But it's addressed to developers on this forum and you'll loose nothing if someone will work on it. Why would you comment against it if you don't like or need MIUI on your phone?... This is beyond my understanding, but sadly the internet is full of this kind of thinking.
Dual app is a feature you can not have it in Stock as fully operational as in MIUI. Some apps (like FB Messenger) will not get push notifications on Stock for cloned apps.
You can use Second Space with one account and you don't have a replacement for this feature for now.
Permission Management is far more complex than even any Xposed module.
China build have Automated Task which again, no module could replace it, as for example: you can schedule to disable just vibrations and nothing else on a specific time of the day.
Notifications synced online.
Calculator with any kind of functions.
Call Recording.
One Hand Mode accessed by swiping from Home button to the left or right. You don't have to loose other functions using different shortcuts. (Double tap is just not efficient).
You have Wallpaper Carousel for your Lockscreen.
You can combine multiple themes to create your best appearance. Stock will never be as beautiful as MIUI can be, but that implies you have some taste for design and art.
All of this are BUILT IN and no root needed or any additional work!
I'm sure I have missed some other details, but when you love MIUI, you just need it, without any explanations. And a lot of Xiaomi phones doesn't have band 20 (800 Mhz) within this price range and specs.
Or maybe you just like to have them both available for your phone with Stock as official. Why's that wrong? ...
Absolutely agree! And additionally, all my data syced to mi cloud, just 1 click to restore. And it is unusable on android one. I too would buy a Mi 5x with B20 or A1 with miui!
Hello!
Last year, decision was very clear for me: Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 (mido). Great specs (battery!), great price and 1st place on this list: https://stats.lineageos.org/
Today for another device that I need, I do not know for sure. What do you suggest?
Criteria:
- under 250$
-Dimensions: Height max ~158mm (not too large phone)
- Great battery (+4000mAh)
- Good camera
- (Year 2017+)
- NOT Samsung.
- Official Lineage support + Lineage for Microg support
Thank you and greetings!
This turned out to be more difficult decision than I was expecting...
Either device has great lineage support and is NOT anymore in store OR it is in store and does NOT have official Lineage support.
Xiaomi MI A1 seems to be the only one to have both.
Xiaomi mi a1 is the best choice for you. I used it for months before i moved to mi a2. It's a nice phone. You can go for it, i believe it'll soon receive Lineage 16 official update.
solace mukhtar said:
Xiaomi mi a1 is the best choice for you. I used it for months before i moved to mi a2. It's a nice phone. You can go for it, i believe it'll soon receive Lineage 16 official update.
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Thank you for an answer!
Now I am tottaly swinging between Redmi Note 4 an Mi A1. Both are quite similar, but Redmi Note 4 has a much better battery (4000mAh vs. 3080mAh).
I have also found Asus Zenphone Max Pro M1 to be a good match (5000mAh), but I has poor camera.
If the price would not be an issue, I would probbaly go for Xiaomi Pocophone F1 (350$). But I really do not see the point. Phones above are good enough for normal use.
I also have mido on los 15.1, I'm thinking of buying rn5pro or rn6pro.
Instead of buying an old phone which already have Lineage OS support, you can buy a new phone which will probably get Lineage OS support.
I am talking about Mi A2. I am pretty sure that once the 2 year update program under android one project ends, it will definitely get the Lineage OS Support.
But if you can't wait for something that might or might not happen, you can go for whyred I guess.
If you ask me I would stretch up a little bit and go for poco F1, I don't think that there is any other phone out there, right now, which offers such a great value for money.
If by any chance you are able to get your hands on a OnePlus device (probably second hand so that it fits your budget), that would be great too.
Decision is yours.
You can get a first gen Pixel XL for under $200, I've loaded LineageOS on it and it's so good that I'm actually selling my Note 9 and going back to the Pixel as my daily driver. Camera is better too, despite being kinda an older phone now.
I picked up a used Oneplus 5 a few weeks ago for $200 and flashed MicroG Lineage to it. Excellent phone so far, I am 100% pleased with it.
Pocophone F1
+ Community
+ Official LineageOS
+ LineageOS with MicroG
+ Performance
+ SD
+ Battery and runtime
+ Camera
+ Price
+ Can be opened with screw instead of glue (to change battery, e.g.)
+ No glas back. Scratched back can be changed on the cheep
+/- No OLED display (means no oled flickering and no burnin)
- No NFC
- Only one camera
In 2020, pocophone is still considered the best option for a good Lineage support? Well, that is nice to hear...
Even so, any other, maybe a little cheaper option? ))
I was also in the same situation... Frankly there is no good phone for this purpose in budget range. My only expectation was redmi 7 getting an official lineage update. But the developers seems to be satisfied with their own unofficial versions. We have two unofficial lineage for this phone but no official ones.
Actually requirement of a budget phone which is on microg (or degoogled) is a social cause... I wish this happened.
alavalathi shaji said:
I was also in the same situation... Frankly there is no good phone for this purpose in budget range. My only expectation was redmi 7 getting an official lineage update. But the developers seems to be satisfied with their own unofficial versions. We have two unofficial lineage for this phone but no official ones.
Actually requirement of a budget phone which is on microg (or degoogled) is a social cause... I wish this happened.
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As others mentioned before, Mi A1 will be the phone of your choice. I just broke mine but will have the screen repaired. I love it.
heinhuiz said:
As others mentioned before, Mi A1 will be the phone of your choice. I just broke mine but will have the screen repaired. I love it.
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How can you say that since the official support for MI A1 has been dropped on April 2020?
You see, that exactly is the problem with LineageOS and others costum ROMs. You never know, how long some device will be maintained. That is specially problematic when you would like to choose a device based on official Lineage support. I could buy Pocophone F1, but support may be dropped in few months. YOU NEVER KNOW.
If only there would be few selected devices with long-time official support: https://forum.xda-developers.com/lineage/general/suggestion-provide-long-time-official-t4087499
If you can still get a Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 go for that. We have several of these in operation. Works like a charm. I believe the the latest Note 5 is still unsupported.
In case you know what you are doing: broken screen replacement around EUR 15 via e.g. AliExpress (including digitizer). 30 minutes to change. Bunch of spare parts like ringers and loudspeakers in the EUR 2 range available as well.
In general some hazzle with the unlocking but I've been told the process has improved significantly (works only under Windows).
mgw2015 said:
If you can still get a Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 go for that. We have several of these in operation. Works like a charm. I believe the the latest Note 5 is still unsupported.
In case you know what you are doing: broken screen replacement around EUR 15 via e.g. AliExpress (including digitizer). 30 minutes to change. Bunch of spare parts like ringers and loudspeakers in the EUR 2 range available as well.
In general some hazzle with the unlocking but I've been told the process has improved significantly (works only under Windows).
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Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 is not officially maintained from april 2020.
what about zenfone 3?
xdaslo said:
How can you say that since the official support for MI A1 has been dropped on April 2020?
You see, that exactly is the problem with LineageOS and others costum ROMs. You never know, how long some device will be maintained. That is specially problematic when you would like to choose a device based on official Lineage support. I could buy Pocophone F1, but support may be dropped in few months. YOU NEVER KNOW.
If only there would be few selected devices with long-time official support: https://forum.xda-developers.com/lineage/general/suggestion-provide-long-time-official-t4087499
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This is the crap. I have a Samsung S7, when I bought it, the Lineage support was perfect. Some months later the support was dropped. Now I think, I buy a IPhone...
HansFreier said:
This is the crap. I have a Samsung S7, when I bought it, the Lineage support was perfect. Some months later the support was dropped. Now I think, I buy a IPhone...
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The S7 is in fact a very good phone for it's age and I am still using it daily with https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...eta-lineageos-17-0-galaxy-s7-build-1-t3980101.
Unofficial yes, but Lineage, good performance and battery life and very stable
GuestK00285 said:
Hello!
Last year, decision was very clear for me: Xiaomi Redmi Note 4 (mido). Great specs (battery!), great price and 1st place on this list: https://stats.lineageos.org/
Today for another device that I need, I do not know for sure. What do you suggest?
Criteria:
- under 250$
-Dimensions: Height max ~158mm (not too large phone)
- Great battery (+4000mAh)
- Good camera
- (Year 2017+)
- NOT Samsung.
- Official Lineage support + Lineage for Microg support
Thank you and greetings!
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Since every other XDA member here posted crap (the best advice was the poco, but it has a very cheap display and is a poor plastic unibody) or ingored your wishes totally, I want to be honest:.
With a litte bit of own research on the supported device list on the LineageOS homepage you could have seen, that the Mi 8 (dipper) would have been the best pick you make with your criteria. I bought one last year for around 200 €. But you're a little bit late for that. It's hard to get dippers with a proper pricetag because they are sold out.
A very interesting LOS-capable, young, high end device is the OnePlus 7 Pro (guacamole). But of course this one is way too much expensive at the moment. If I were you, I'd wait a few months until it get's more affortable and buy it. At least I'm considering to do that.
As an alternative to LineageOS, you might want to consider /e/ https://e.foundation/
If we could get Lineage OS for Redmi 7a and a good working GCAM then this phone for 6400(INR)/90$ is absolute amazing for an average person as daily driver.
As long as you're not a hardcore gamer. This is good enough for You.
Is there any dev working on it?
keenofhiphop said:
Hello,
waiting for my model currently
As to the question about when there will be custom roms - the phone was announced only months ago and we will need to wait until it spreads in usage to someone able to develop and maintain custom roms for it. Or some developer not in possession of the device does it, but these projects - in my experience - often lack quality and support.
However the device is globally available (afaik) and extremely attractive with its low price tag while overall good specs, so it's gotta be only a matter of (imo short) time until the userbase has grown so much that some people will put together something...
And yes, I also like to see some roms on it for data security reasons - surely not the only one .
P.S.: watch this if you want to know why it is so cheap
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Can only repeat.
I strolled through a russian forum a while back, they seemed to have a few things up like TWRP, but no sight of a ROM.
Unfortunately I don't know where the chinese forums are at but may take a look at chinese official mi forum later.
keenofhiphop said:
Can only repeat.
I strolled through a russian forum a while back, they seemed to have a few things up like TWRP, but no sight of a ROM.
Unfortunately I don't know where the chinese forums are at but may take a look at chinese official mi forum later.
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Thank YOU!