rooted phone, Some apps dont see root - ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers

rooted and unlocked bootloader. I am running HelsAx7.Submix, Some apps that access system configuration seem to not have root access. Mainly I've had issues with BuildProp Editor, Material Terminal, and a few others. I got a prompt for root after an initial run or boot. But it has not come back at all. for any of the apps. Its like its getting locked out shortly after boot.

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OTA Update while rooted but still STOCK

Hey Guys,
I've done reading about this issue but I did not find an answer specifically to the Nexus 7 device.
I bought my mother-in-law the Nexus 7 and she loves it. However, she will be going back home (which is far) and I was wondering if an OTA update comes, will she be able to update? Will it mess with the system itself if updated over?
Do I have to unroot first, then OTA update, then reroot?
I will not install any custom rom. I will just have it rooted that is it.
Thank you
I unlocked my bootloader and manually rooted [superuser zip in CWM], then I installed the system update that updated it to 4.1.1 [JRO03D], and I still had root, so I'm pretty sure the updates on the N7 will keep the root.
However, you can always try "OTA root keeper" in the play store, it's supposed to restore root, in the event that an OTA update unroots it.
I downloaded it before updating because I thought I'd lose root with the update, but I didn't have to use it at all.
But I'm no longer on the stock rom, I switched to the ParanoidAndroid rom, it's excellent.
I see. Do I need to unlock the bootloader in order to root? Is it true that unlocking the bootloader is only needed if I want to install custom ROMs right? Can I just have root?
Thanks again!
You have to unlock the bootloader in order to root.
keplenk said:
I see. Do I need to unlock the bootloader in order to root? Is it true that unlocking the bootloader is only needed if I want to install custom ROMs right? Can I just have root?
Thanks again!
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Unfortunately no, because there is no known exploit for loading an insecure boot image, in which case you could use 'adb' to push Superuser to /system/.. But unlocking the bootloader isn't a big deal, except for the fact it erases all the data. There are ways to back it up via adb, and I think the N7 Toolkit has backup & restore options.

[Q] Root lost with OTA update

So the title pretty much says it all. I don't need root very much. Just for fixing the bluetooth with my Nyko Playad. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2138911
Anyway I installed the OTA 4.2.2 update and then I discovered my root wasn't working anymore. I have relocked my bootloader since rooting the first time and I know that if I root again I will lose all my apps will be deleted.
Last time I rooted I use the Nexus 7 toolkit to backup my apps. But certain apps like Need for Speed most wanted didn't backup. So when I restored my backed up apps some of them never appeared again and I lost all my progress.
If I re-root how can I be sure that all my apps will be backed up completely with all their data backed up as well?
Buy the paid-version of SuperUser, and you wouldn't have this problem...
Just sayin.....
Look up carbon in the play store. It will allow you to backup user apps+ data to your PC (if you get the paid version i believe it can sync up to google drive or dropbox to name a few) if you are not rooted. That way you can keep your games positions and apps data, unlock and root, then restore via carbon.
You didn't need to re-lock the boot loader to gain root back. (But now you DO.)
For OTAs that replace the recovery partition, you really only need two steps to gain back root:
- flash a custom recovery (need unlocked boot loader for this) into the recovery partition
- restore the setuid/setgid permission bits on the "su" binary, e.g. with the custom recovery running:
Code:
adb shell mount /system
adb shell chmod 6755 /system/xbin/su /system/bin/su
Alternately (instead of the step above) you could just re-flash a SuperSU/Superuser root kit, or use a "rootkeeper" app.
Any way you slice it it's not much work.
BTW - there will certainly be more OTAs - it's a Nexus device after all.
Thank you everybody.
I will definitely be purchasing the paid version of SuperUser so that I can keep my root after OTA updates.
I'm currently using carbon to back everything up. Then I will unlock, root, and relock. I keep my bootloader locked for security.
Ota rootkeeper will work too, but yes, you will always lose root after an update. How easy you regain it is up to your configuration.

Root Permissions Not Working For Most Apps After BOK3 Keeproot Upgrade

I already had root on a much older build. I'm on BOK3 (Verizon). Root Check shows I have root, supersu seems to be working, I can drop into su via a terminal, but most my apps that require root aren't getting it. Cleanmaster, Autostart Manager, AppFreezer, Helium (None can use root). I was able to install BusyBox. Supersu shows that all these apps have root permissions granted after I was prompted. I tried setting Supersu to always allow root without prompting but it didn't work. Supersu always says that it has granted access for an interactive shell. I have no idea what to do. My phone sucks without root
Here is what I did to upgrade and keep root. I followed the instructions perfectly and everything seemed to work (But obviously not so well): http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/how-to-update-to-g900voe1-5-0-keeproot-t3149784
Any help is GREATLY appreciated.

EngineerMode unroot?

back when engineermode exploit backdoor 'thing' whatever you want to call it, was still a thing i seized to opportunity to gain root access, however since then magisk hide has begun failing me and i would like to either find a way to update magisk from v14.0 safely, or to unroot completely (preferably without wiping) as this has started being problematic. I am on the latest oxygenOS update and i used this guide to root (i originaly linked it here but apparently i cant do that, it was on github, called OneplusRoot by a fella named aldur.)
If anyone can help id really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance
Since One Plus removed engineering mode I'm surprised you were able to update OOS and maintain the exploit. Why don't you just unlock your bootloader and root the proper way? Your phone won't melt if you do.
I would like to avoid wiping if possible. I too am surprised at the persistence of root after at least 3 OTAs. At this point I no longer really need root and would rather my phone run smoothly without some applications crashing or not running due to root.
bump?
gbesh said:
bump?
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As long as your system boots, and you have root, install the latest magisk manager from the magisk thread, and it will prompt you to update. As long as you give magisk manager root access you should be able to do a "direct install" and reboot and should be up to date. Back up your data first though, I'm not responsible for your data loss (but this worked for me)
Same to unroot. Magisk has an uninstall option that should fully unroot you
manor7777 said:
As long as your system boots, and you have root, install the latest magisk manager from the magisk thread, and it will prompt you to update. As long as you give magisk manager root access you should be able to do a "direct install" and reboot and should be up to date. Back up your data first though, I'm not responsible for your data loss (but this worked for me)
Same to unroot. Magisk has an uninstall option that should fully unroot you
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Well my system doesn't boot with root. I have to manually mount something and start the magisk service.
Which is why I'm not sure how to update as I've been told the updated version has a different file structure that the one I'm on.
were you able to unroot? i think i am in the same boot right now, on 4.5.13 with magisk root by engineermode, if you were successful please tell me how
yohouse2 said:
were you able to unroot? i think i am in the same boot right now, on 4.5.13 with magisk root by engineermode, if you were successful please tell me how
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no unfortunately i am still waiting for a solution.
gbesh said:
no unfortunately i am still waiting for a solution.
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When I ran out of options,I unlocked the bootloader (wiped the device), and the new system was unrooted, i then installed Nolimits rom based on OOS 5.1.2
I asked on another thread and another user told me that if you accepted the complete zip update of the OTA prompt the updated system would lose the root, but you wouldn't lose your data or apps, which is nice, but keep in mind you are more probable to have worse performance or battery than clean install
yohouse2 said:
When I ran out of options,I unlocked the bootloader (wiped the device), and the new system was unrooted, i then installed Nolimits rom based on OOS 5.1.2
I asked on another thread and another user told me that if you accepted the complete zip update of the OTA prompt the updated system would lose the root, but you wouldn't lose your data or apps, which is nice, but keep in mind you are more probable to have worse performance or battery than clean install
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I can confirm this is not the case, i have been updating as the updates roll out and i am now on 5.1.2 and still able to get root access through adb with a locked bootloader.
gbesh said:
I can confirm this is not the case, i have been updating as the updates roll out and i am now on 5.1.2 and still able to get root access through adb with a locked bootloader.
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Well the alternative is another thing i read but can't find, and honestly can't recommend unless you find in too, is that you can delete the apk and the magisk image(don't know which one, this is how bad i remember this), then rebooting would remove the root.
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Well the alternative is another thing i read but can't find, and honestly can't recommend unless you find in too, is that you can delete the apk and the magisk image(don't know which one, this is how bad i remember this), then rebooting would remove the root.
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After one of the recent updates, magisk hide started working again and my apps are no longer crashing. It is strange but i guess this situation has turned out favourably after all.

Is the latest update ok for the non root stuff? (tank)

Just now my tank let me defer an update. I do not care about or need root.
I just want to know if this update kills anything like playingwithfire.
This just appeared today (3/21) at 7pm ct. Its defintely new.
Don´t know. But with root (TWRP Recovery) you can test every ota update and downgrade in minutes.
I have two gen2 sticks rooted now, it´s easy. TWRP is really usefull. And with the Magisk App I can restrict root by App (currently only ADB is allowed).
Love the rooted ADB Shell for blocking updates, hide or delete system apps, explore and edit /data/data, run scripts, dmesg, top, cat Log.d and so on.
I have zero need to root.

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