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Hey,
I just wanted to ask does the custom roms really worth rooting? in comparison to the google stock rom how much faster and more battery efficient are the custom rom that specialize in those fields? (i.e. LiquidSmooth from what I could gather) and how much more/less stable are they from the stock rom?
Thank you.
Experience differs from user to user. The most conclusive way to get an answer is to try it out yourself. For me, PA has been just as fast as the stock ROM and had equally good battery life, but I have had the occasional random reboot. To me that's a miniscule trade-off for the features you get. You won't really get a ROM that's significantly faster than a stock ROM though because the hardware on the phone is good enough that everything feels fast.
tomer90 said:
Hey,
I just wanted to ask does the custom roms really worth rooting? in comparison to the google stock rom how much faster and more battery efficient are the custom rom that specialize in those fields? (i.e. LiquidSmooth from what I could gather) and how much more/less stable are they from the stock rom?
Thank you.
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I would recommend you try both and stick with the one that works best for you. Only you can determine which one you like more. The N4 is easy to install a custom rom on (even from stock). Plus with the backup apps out there you don't have to risk losing your data and starting over. No two users are identical and what works for one may not work for another.
For what it's worth, I've flashed back to stock/locked/unrooted because I never came to depend on the features the different roms gave me. I'm getting older and don't have the time to stay current on the different roms and features. All I need for my phone are apps/features that are found in the stock rom and the google store. Battery life is better on a custom rom but it's not worth it to me to continue my "flashaholic" ways. I still get through a day sometimes a day and a half on the stock rom - which is all I need. My use case could be drastically different than yours so don't do what I did unless you know it will work for you.
The developers here do great work and it's a great community so I would recommend you try them all to see which one you like the most.
Good luck.
You need to find the answer yourself.
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its not about me testing for myself because i'm not looking for features or special stuff i can get along with everything i'm really just looking for the fastest most battery saving ROM, thats it, I play little to almost no games basicly mail and scanning and stuff like that(i'm a student right now) and soon i'll be writing some apps for myself for security purposes so I need something to really milk that Quad Core for all its worth so I also need some CPU tweaking apps(not sure if thats ROM related)
You'll be very happy with Sabermod or Rasbean both close to stock. Sabermod is the only Rom built using the 4.8 chaintool and is very fast. The battery life is also excellent. I recommend those 2 for a close to stock experience with some useful tweaks both fast smooth and solid.
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Thank you for your input.
Any other opinions?
and by the way, excuse my ignorance but what does it mean 4.8 chaintool? what makes it faster then the 4.7 or the older ones? and since its really new im guessing, does it mean its less stable then the other ROMS? and when you say excellent battery life, its in comparison to all those other ROMS that aim for max battery life?
Thank you!
If you really want more battery life or smoothness then IMO you should just install a new kernel; Franco's kernel has great battery life but it still has better performance than stock, Trinity kernel is super fast and smooth, and there's loads more options available.
I'm running CM10.1 and Franco kernel and its very stable, barely ever have any sort of bugs or random reboots
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I run CM10.1. Close to stock, but has a few options that are nice to have especially if you like to customize your phone. There are other Roms that have more options, but to me, what's in CM is enough. It's really up to you.
With that being said, I recently flashed a stock rooted rom and got MUCH better battery life than on CM. I don't know if it was an app I had or what, but stock definitely gave me better battery life. I have tried kernels and Rom combinations, but always come back to CM with every single phone I've had. But, in my experience on the Nexus 4, stock Rom gives me the best battery life.
For me liquidsmooth is brilliant! Extremely fast while having tons of customization options. Pair it with matr1x and it really is a great combo for speed and battery life. This is only my opinion but it works for me. I got over 22000 on antutu with this combination (no overclock) while I think its around 17000 on stock. I also get significantly better battery life compared to stock.
if you really want a bump in battery and performance, i suggest rooting and just install francos kernel.i've tried every rom on this forum and for me i ALWAYS find my way back to stock for me it just feels the most fluid and everything works like it should. like me you dont play games or anything and im no app hoarder.that said stock rom with francos kernel gives me the best of everything including color/gamma tweaks to make your screen look better with his app.
with that said i suggest to check out different kernels
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if you really want a bump in battery and performance, i suggest rooting and just install francos kernel.i've tried every rom on this forum and for me i ALWAYS find my way back to stock for me it just feels the most fluid and everything works like it should. like me you dont play games or anything and im no app hoarder.that said stock rom with francos kernel gives me the best of everything including color/gamma tweaks to make your screen look better with his app.
with that said i suggest to check out different kernels
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Now, if we install franco's kernel onto the Stock ROM, will this prevent any future Google updates from being installed?
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Now, if we install franco's kernel onto the Stock ROM, will this prevent any future Google updates from being installed?
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Updates in any form will show up in the forum and no need to simply rely on Google for them. They have recently released an updated kernel which I see being implemented by some rom developers and kernel developers already. Let's understand what we have here guys, a community of constant building additions/updates to our phones. So updates should be the last thing for you to worry about IMO
Also to me OP some of the questions you asked can all be answered with a simple Google Search, not that the answers given here are wrong but you would probably find more in depth and uniformed answers by looking it up.. Quite sure its on a wiki somewhere...
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Updates in any form will show up in the forum and no need to simply rely on Google for them. They have recently released an updated kernel which I see being implemented by some rom developers and kernel developers already. Let's understand what we have here guys, a community of constant building additions/updates to our phones. So updates should be the last thing for you to worry about IMO
Also to me OP some of the questions you asked can all be answered with a simple Google Search, not that the answers given here are wrong but you would probably find more in depth and uniformed answers by looking it up.. Quite sure its on a wiki somewhere...
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I believe he means Google ota's and yes it can stop you from getting ota's. Any modification to system. Whether you added or removed something will fail. You would have to be on complete stock for it to work. Just download yourself a nexus 4 toolkit. The latest factory image, latest drivers, and make sure you backup your internal storage on your computer. Use the tool to return your phone back to stock. Of course whenever you feel is tge right time to do so.
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I believe he means Google ota's and yes it can stop you from getting ota's. Any modification to system. Whether you added or removed something will fail. You would have to be on complete stock for it to work. Just download yourself a nexus 4 toolkit. The latest factory image, latest drivers, and make sure you backup your internal storage on your computer. Use the tool to return your phone back to stock. Of course whenever you feel is tge right time to do so.
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Oh no I fully understood what he meant and my point was simply people unroot or stay stock to wait for an update. Whether you are rooted or not the update will find you in some form. Either with a rooted stock rom or a custom rom but rest assure that xda will not let an update happen and its not on everyone's phone :good:
Hey guys! I'm not new to the board, but this is my first official post. So I would like to give a quick Shout to XDA for creating this android portal to connect us all together. XDA has helped my friends an I for years now and I am very grateful, Thanks XDA and members!!
Now with the "welcome world" out of the way.......
I have had my OPO for a couple years now. I must admit I freaking love this phone. It's been fast and reliable since the first boot. It fits my life-style perfectly. I have been fortunate to have not been plagued with any of the common OPO issues. No yellow screen, battery issues, software glitches, etc.
With that being said, I have the bar set pretty high right now. However, It is not in my nature to leave cool tech equipment in it's original condition. I am ready to make a move on my OPO.
I rolled though the TOP ROMS thread and nothing really stuck out or grabbed my attention. I'm seeking a path to success here and was looking for some recommendations from experienced users that have had and experimented with multiple roms and use the OPO for more than pictures and facebook. I run 2 businesses and this phone is a staple in my life.
If I could only change one thing from stock, it would definitely be the DPI. I find 400 to be the best for my use, with font still readable but lots more screen space.
In terms of roms, I would recommend Resurrection Remix. Very reliable with pretty much every feature you could want but without the performance hit that others have.
For a business user though, you would need a solid backup and recovery method for when your modding eventually ends up with a bootloop. I have heard that flashfire is pretty good but, as my phone is too full to make a backup, I have not used it myself.
Sultans rom is unique because instead of adding features (its same as stock rom) he's actually gone deeper and improved the camera, battery gauge and other things. Read everything on his post that he's made better. His rom is at 2ghz instead of 2.5ghz YET it performs better than stock ever did.
skipdman said:
Hey guys! I'm not new to the board, but this is my first official post. So I would like to give a quick Shout to XDA for creating this android portal to connect us all together. XDA has helped my friends an I for years now and I am very grateful, Thanks XDA and members!!
Now with the "welcome world" out of the way.......
I have had my OPO for a couple years now. I must admit I freaking love this phone. It's been fast and reliable since the first boot. It fits my life-style perfectly. I have been fortunate to have not been plagued with any of the common OPO issues. No yellow screen, battery issues, software glitches, etc.
With that being said, I have the bar set pretty high right now. However, It is not in my nature to leave cool tech equipment in it's original condition. I am ready to make a move on my OPO.
I rolled though the TOP ROMS thread and nothing really stuck out or grabbed my attention. I'm seeking a path to success here and was looking for some recommendations from experienced users that have had and experimented with multiple roms and use the OPO for more than pictures and facebook. I run 2 businesses and this phone is a staple in my life.
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I would suggest you try out CandySix ROM (AOSP + Sultan's kernel), it's the best ROM I've tried so far. Full set of features, stable and great battery life. No idea what happens with CM ROMs including Sultan's but I am plagued with core apps and Android OS wakelocks that destroy battery.
If you want a simple AOSP ROM without a ton of features but rock stable I'd suggest Omni.
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geronphillips said:
If I could only change one thing from stock, it would definitely be the DPI. I find 400 to be the best for my use, with font still readable but lots more screen space.
In terms of roms, I would recommend Resurrection Remix. Very reliable with pretty much every feature you could want but without the performance hit that others have.
For a business user though, you would need a solid backup and recovery method for when your modding eventually ends up with a bootloop. I have heard that flashfire is pretty good but, as my phone is too full to make a backup, I have not used it myself.
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I run my resolution at 440 with small text. I've played around with that quite a bit, I've been pleased with the current for a while now. You're 100% correct about the backup and recovery. That is going to be my first step. I'll check out flashfire and see what that's about.
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Sultans rom is unique because instead of adding features (its same as stock rom) he's actually gone deeper and improved the camera, battery gauge and other things. Read everything on his post that he's made better. His rom is at 2ghz instead of 2.5ghz YET it performs better than stock ever did.
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This is something that definitely interest me. It follows my natural logic. I'll be checking this out for sure.
Renosh said:
I would suggest you try out CandySix ROM (AOSP + Sultan's kernel), it's the best ROM I've tried so far. Full set of features, stable and great battery life. No idea what happens with CM ROMs including Sultan's but I am plagued with core apps and Android OS wakelocks that destroy battery.
If you want a simple AOSP ROM without a ton of features but rock stable I'd suggest Omni.
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My plan here is to give each selected ROM 10 days of run time and track important features. At the end I'll probably write a review with my feedback. I'll add these two, to the list.
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Guys Please Check Out Below Threads. Thanks for your support
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LyVgRQuyyA0
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/general/unleash-true-potential-oneplus-t3394310
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WTF very interested!
I'm going to tryyyyyy it
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Sultans rom is unique because instead of adding features (its same as stock rom) he's actually gone deeper and improved the camera, battery gauge and other things. Read everything on his post that he's made better. His rom is at 2ghz instead of 2.5ghz YET it performs better than stock ever did.
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do you have a link to it? I can just find the cyanogenmod based one!
Thanks
I use 350 dpi, very small but I like it
What's everyone's thoughts on Android O?
What roms do you want to try for Android O on your nexus 6p?
What kind of changes do You expect for custom roms for Android O?
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What's everyone's thoughts on Android O?
What roms do you want to try for Android O on your nexus 6p?
What kind of changes do You expect for custom roms for Android O?
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There are definitely some improvements like sound quality although arise team are porting that to nougat. It also will have better battery but not right now and it is buggy at the moment. Luckily it has already been rooted. I will be using Chads uber and faster angler assuming he ports it to O.
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There are definitely some improvements like sound quality although arise team are porting that to nougat. It also will have better battery but not right now and it is buggy at the moment. Luckily it has already been rooted. I will be using Chads uber and faster angler assuming he ports it to O.
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I definitely want to.Pure nexus on Android O
I just ordered. Some. Parts for. My computer I. Might put a rom together I used to do roms back in the day for. Droid Forums more specifically the Droid 2 Global
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I definitely want to.Pure nexus on Android O
I just ordered. Some. Parts for. My computer I. Might put a rom together I used to do roms back in the day for. Droid Forums more specifically the Droid 2 Global
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No one else has so is it even possible? Have Google released the source code and everything you need to make a build?
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There are definitely some improvements like sound quality although arise team are porting that to nougat. It also will have better battery but not right now and it is buggy at the moment. Luckily it has already been rooted. I will be using Chads uber and faster angler assuming he ports it to O.
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Yeah O looks all good. The notifications system keeps getting better.
V4A works fine on Nougat.
tweeny80 said:
Yeah O looks all good. The notifications system keeps getting better.
V4A works fine on Nougat.
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Awesome, I'd like someone to make that a mod for nougat! Quick question about making a build though. When I make a build and type mka bacon it will go on for at least a day and fails to make some targets and says try increasing the heap size because of the Jack server. Is 8gb ram not enough to build some or any roms? Thanks
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Awesome, I'd like someone to make that a mod for nougat! Quick question about making a build though. When I make a build and type mka bacon it will go on for at least a day and fails to make some targets and says try increasing the heap size because of the Jack server. Is 8gb ram not enough to build some or any roms? Thanks
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I've built with 4GB which is the minimum required. I'd suggest you have a look at the thread "Building PureNexus" in 6P Android Development subforum. You probably need to tweak some jack parameters and use cccache to speed up the build. Incremental build might get down to an hour or two.
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I've built with 4GB which is the minimum required. I'd suggest you have a look at the thread "Building PureNexus" in 6P Android Development subforum. You probably need to tweak some jack parameters and use cccache to speed up the build. Incremental build might get down to an hour or two.
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Okay thanks, I already did the ccache stuff and some Jack stuff but I'll look into it a bit. Thanks
I think it's too early for me to give an opinion. It isn't even in alpha yet. Seems stable for a dev preview is all I can really say at this point. I like where they're going with the sand boxing apps, no more shady apps draining battery like crazy *cough Facebook cough*
For me the battery life is brutal, cpu seems to get stuck at 1555 quite often. Tried going to a different governer but other than powersave they all seem to do that. Trying powersave with an input/touch boost to get rid of the lags at least.
Otherwise it is pretty good, I like where they are going.
It's a very early build to have a good judgement on Android O. The 3rd build would probably be a good indicator on what's going to be the future of android. Anything else is just a placebo effect.
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So I've been meaning to try out some new ROMs lately and I'm wondering if any of yallz have any favorites or recommendations to throw my way. Currently I'm running the latest Resurrection Remix build for this beloved device and have been stuck on it for a while. It seems many of our ROMs have stopped in terms of development so I'm looking for direction in what to try. Thanks!
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So I've been meaning to try out some new ROMs lately and I'm wondering if any of yallz have any favorites or recommendations to throw my way. Currently I'm running the latest Resurrection Remix build for this beloved device and have been stuck on it for a while. It seems many of our ROMs have stopped in terms of development so I'm looking for direction in what to try. Thanks!
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I'm partial to AospExtended. Pure Android (AOSP) with benefits.
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I'm partial to AospExtended. Pure Android (AOSP) with benefits.
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Many thanks that's next on the list! Haven't even glanced in that direction yet.
Edit: How is it in terms of battery life? As of now I can go about 9 hrs with heavy use and no charge.
Official lineageos because of weekly builds
dave31g said:
Many thanks that's next on the list! Haven't even glanced in that direction yet.
Edit: How is it in terms of battery life? As of now I can go about 9 hrs with heavy use and no charge.
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It's an efficient ROM on most platforms (typical for AOAP). I do not run it on my G4P as stock MM w/Xposed and a few kernel tweaks is a better match for my needs in this device.
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Official lineageos because of weekly builds
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I gave lineage a shot as one of my first ever custom OS's but it seemed to be lacking in customization. Last I remember there's no stable substratum support or anything of that sort and I love my colors haha. Maybe I'll give it another go though. Feel free to add anything to persuade me!
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It's an efficient ROM on most platforms (typical for AOAP). I do not run it on my G4P as stock MM w/Xposed and a few kernel tweaks is a better match for my needs in this device.
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Yes I ran a deodexed MM stock rom for a while with xposed but I feel as if xposed gets messy (could just be me going crazy with the availabilities.) Definitely lots of fun tho. A couple hours ago I installed xposed over RR just to see what would happen and it didn't do me over like I thought. It worked well but xposed isn't the route I wanna take at this time.
Thanks for your answers!
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I gave lineage a shot as one of my first ever custom OS's but it seemed to be lacking in customization. Last I remember there's no stable substratum support or anything of that sort and I love my colors haha. Maybe I'll give it another go though. Feel free to add anything to persuade me!
Yes I ran a deodexed MM stock rom for a while with xposed but I feel as if xposed gets messy (could just be me going crazy with the availabilities.) Definitely lots of fun tho. A couple hours ago I installed xposed over RR just to see what would happen and it didn't do me over like I thought. It worked well but xposed isn't the route I wanna take at this time.
Thanks for your answers!
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Of the ROMs mentioned RR is probably the most customizable (w/o add ons) followed by AEX and Lineage. Each suits a different audience. Enjoy the hunt.
i have been on the rom that no one talks about much and i have been on it for months.i try to switch but keep falling back..its the VIPER ROM...its been very stable..good battery life...everything works..GPS is best among all roms..i dont know what they have done but i get a fix pretty fast...i am looking for an alternative but havent found anything that comes close in stablity and function.it may not be as customizable as RR or aospextended...but its very smooth ..even on stock kernel.give it a try if you may....https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=889964283620760488
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Im a tad confused... are there just enough differences between stock and LOS/AOSP roms that it really warrants separate kernels?
Stock seems pretty darn close to LOS to me...
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Im a tad confused... are there just enough differences between stock and LOS/AOSP roms that it really warrants separate kernels?
Stock seems pretty darn close to LOS to me...
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Far more to it than the differences on the surface that you see. With regards to your concern about kernels. Most of the Pie rom's here use EAS kernels which at this point have made the default HMP kernel on stock fairly meaningless. Performance and battery life has become so much better now that the most used kernel Artemis has matured alot. Alongside Neutrino as well. Either of these kernels offer better performance and battery life over stock. So this won't be a different in features or amount of apps installed but rather almost a very different feel to the phone. Case in point scrolling on large mounds of text or say the Play Store is leaps and bounds smoother on an EAS kernel vs an HMP kernel. Hope this helps
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Far more to it than the differences on the surface that you see. With regards to your concern about kernels. Most of the Pie rom's here use EAS kernels which at this point have made the default HMP kernel on stock fairly meaningless. Performance and battery life has become so much better now that the most used kernel Artemis has matured alot. Alongside Neutrino as well. Either of these kernels offer better performance and battery life over stock. So this won't be a different in features or amount of apps installed but rather almost a very different feel to the phone. Case in point scrolling on large mounds of text or say the Play Store is leaps and bounds smoother on an EAS kernel vs an HMP kernel. Hope this helps
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oh i definately get the benefits
on exkernel atm, and live the differences it made... i just dont understand why we "cant" use the same kernel on a LOS rom.
there only differences i really "see" are some extra framework files
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oh i definately get the benefits
on exkernel atm, and live the differences it made... i just dont understand why we "cant" use the same kernel on a LOS rom.
there only differences i really "see" are some extra framework files
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Wifi is built as a module on stock... And is kernel integrated on custom...
So if you don't use wifi... Do your thing booboo
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Wifi is built as a module on stock... And is kernel integrated on custom...
So if you don't use wifi... Do your thing booboo
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there we go
exactly the sort of stuff im lookin for
personally... i could live without wifi.... but anything else? ive seen other devices with similar modules for bluetooth, external storage (sdcard), etc....
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there we go
exactly the sort of stuff im lookin for
personally... i could live without wifi.... but anything else? ive seen other devices with similar modules for bluetooth, external storage (sdcard), etc....
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Afaik... Just WiFi