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By the end of my battery's lifespan during the day, roughly 70% of battery is drained by Android System and the various processes included in that. So a few days ago, I rooted my S5 and downloaded Titanium Backup, and proceeded to freeze the processes that were draining the most battery (according to Settings and GSam battery monitor. These included SilentLogging, GestureService, AllShareCast Dongle Update, and various others that I deemed unnecessary. I figured this would fix the problem, but much to my surprise, I checked out my stats today and they're all still the biggest battery drainers! And they're supposedly frozen! I'd done a factory reset before to fix this and it didn't do anything, I'm sick of my $500 device lasting me 10 hours of moderate use, because I'm charging my damn phone two or three times during the course of the day. How the hell do I get my battery to at least be REASONABLE?
I'm trying to figure out what is going on with my wife's Turbo 2 and why Doze doesn't seem to be doing anything. I'm getting about 20% battery drain over eight hours when the phone is idle. The phone took the update a week ago so it should have had plenty of time to bake in or get a set of parameters established, but the battery drain is exactly the same as it was on Lollipop.
I cleared the cache last night after reading another thread where that was listed as the problem, but still no luck. I charged it up to 78% before we got ready for bed and when I looked at it when I woke up, it was at 54%. Most of the settings are still stock, wifi was set to always stay on, I switched that to Only When Charging today, so I'll see if that helps at all although my Nexus 6P is set to stay on Always and it only looses 3-5% overnight.
I'm guessing it's an errant app or process but I was hoping Doze would take care of something like that. I know I can reboot into Safe Mode and see if it works better, but that will just verify that it's a downloaded app causing the problem. Both Android battery stats and GSam don't show any apps with excessive drain. At that point, is there any way to pinpoint it without uninstalling everything and reinstalling a few at a time? That isn't a very efficient way of narrowing it down, especially since I'm only with the phone in the evenings.
No Bluetooth, No Location - Yes WiFi, LTE 100% signal coverage, no downtime, overall low brightness around 25-40% I can't seem to get past a day of regular use with 2 hours and half average screen time. Using latest OTA.
I've turned off the always-on screen, several bloatware that came preinstalled, including Facebook and Whatsapp.
The first on the battery usage is always Android System followed by Cell Standby then Android OS (again???) and then Screen. Also the voice call seems to use some great amount of battery. Naming might be different since my Android is in another language.
Have turned on energy saving for most apps that runs on background. Doesn't help much since I don't have many apps that runs on background. Imagine if I did! My day ends with about 20~27% battery left, I just turned off fast charging to see if it helps anything. My Xperia Z3 with Whatsapp and a great deal of apps installed would end the day with over 50~65% with Stamina Mode. I know the screen is smaller but so is the battery.
So I thought it would get better with time but it didn't, it's the S7 Edge Exynos Single SIM, unbranded with the official Samsung rom so I could get the latest updates or I would be stuck with no updates at all since Frebuary, since my carrier usually only releases major OTAs such Android N and skips all the minor updates.
Yes I did a factory reset already hoping for the better, maybe I got a defective Galaxy S7? I'd hate to have my phone fixed and the battery changed, it wont be the same again unless they give me a new one which is unlikely.
Why is Android System and Android OS draining so much battery? Are there any tools to debug this and trace which processes are using CPU time? Or could this be due a faulty battery?
Settings, Applications, Google. Disable all the services that will cause wakelocks such as all security options. This is something 99% of folks overlook or forget. Post a screenshot of your battery stats
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827676
Only settings marked above are "Allow remote lock and erase"
Here is an average day with:
**Few moments connected to my laptop transferring pictures from yesterday - so incidentally it took some charge on the way.
1 hour 29 minutes voice call, 3G/LTE signal is excelent, VoLTE not used, WiFi on occasionaly, Location off, Bluetooth off.
1 hour 12 minutes running Fallout Shelter with power saving on, 30 fps low resolution mode, that's the CPU time at least.
2hour 28 minutes screen time with very dim brightness
Power saving ON all apps where available, I have absolutely nothing installed but a couple of games, Teamviewer and Microsoft Remote Desktop.
That left me with 49% battery. Not sure how great the results are considering the brightness was very low.
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Dont quote me on this but I believe the Android System drain issue is a byproduct of the latest Samsung firmware update...
Someone more in the know could correct me or elaborate more
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There is a thread on battery life here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/post-battery-life-t3321547
you might find some help/answers in there
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Sawdoctor
Just some heads up, in offline mode my phone went a full day with a 6% drop, half hour screen time and some minor gaming, when I turned the phone radio back on around 20:00 when it was 10:00AM it was down to 15% battery, solely on standby. No bluetooth No location - Yes Wireless Yes LTE
It seems package disablers are pretty popular now for helping you disable some apps that you wouldnt otherwise be able to disable. It seems alot of peoples reasoning for disabling apps is to save battery but iam wondering how much battery is the package disabler app itself using? After all. Its constantly running in the back working to keep those apps from waking right??
First of all, once you disable the app, it is disabled forever, no need for PD. As far as how much saving you get? 3 nights ago charged phone 100% before sleep, wake up 98%, 2 nights ago charged 100% before sleep, wake up 80% left. That would be x10 higher power usage . I went to app manager and force stop about 5 apps and everything went back to normal. Some apps can be brutal on battery (not sure if by design or it crashed) and all those people complaining about poor battery, it's not the phone, it's some programs running in background. For example If I don't even have facebook account, why is facebook running on my phone? If you know what you're doing you could easily double battery life.
Iam not fully understanding your reply! Are you saying package disabler is the reason your battery life improved?
pete4k said:
First of all, once you disable the app, it is disabled forever, no need for PD. As far as how much saving you get? 3 nights ago charged phone 100% before sleep, wake up 98%, 2 nights ago charged 100% before sleep, wake up 80% left. That would be x10 higher power usage . I went to app manager and force stop about 5 apps and everything went back to normal. Some apps can be brutal on battery (not sure if by design or it crashed) and all those people complaining about poor battery, it's not the phone, it's some programs running in background. For example If I don't even have facebook account, why is facebook running on my phone? If you know what you're doing you could easily double battery life.
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So what's your secret then?!
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I bought but haven't really touched Package Disabler Pro.
I think its better to have 1 app controlling/blocking multiple things than having multiple apps running multiple things and wasting battery.
Blaalad12 said:
It seems package disablers are pretty popular now for helping you disable some apps that you wouldnt otherwise be able to disable. It seems alot of peoples reasoning for disabling apps is to save battery but iam wondering how much battery is the package disabler app itself using? After all. Its constantly running in the back working to keep those apps from waking right??
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I run package disabler pro and it shows as 0% battery usage with 37% battery left. I don't think the app runs in the background, it just force closes the apps that you select and disables them from running, so I think it helps your battery seeing it stops other apps from using your battery.
Is there any apps in particular recommended to disable besides the obvious? When i view the list of files within package disabler. It shows some items using ram but most of them seem to have no affect on battery life and aren't intrusive in anyway so i imagine it's just not necessary to disable them. I mainly wanted to disable Knox and bixby but bixby doesn't seem to be using any battery so again, iam not sure i need to disable it.
To make quick points in simplest way:
1. For best performance, only programs that you actually use should be running on your phone.
2. Package disabler is the program to use for system files, especially now, since we have no root yet.
As far as looking at the battery statistics, they are not very reliable IMO: I had my phone discharging 2% overnight and at other time 20%, when I looked at settings/battery/battery usage they looked almost the same in both cases: Android OS, Android System, Device Idle etc. no smoking gun and yet the phone was using battery x10 more. I do not know what caused this excessive usage, but I went to APP manager and manually force stop every non system application and all went back to normal. This is not the first time this happened to me and IMO simplest solution is not to have unnecessary software running on my phone, less chance for the programs to go haywire.
Hello all,
So I know there's various discussions all over the web about the Galaxy s10 and battery issues on both Snapdragon and Exynos variants. It seems people are experiencing a wide margin of difference in avg battery life..
So here's my situation. My wife and I both have S10+'s through AT&T. We got them the first week they came out. I looked though the forums and performed several battery optimization tweaks on both phones and since then the battery life has been really impressive... No complaints really. Until this last week.
We both recieved the March security patch and fingerprint scanner fix about a week ago. My wife's phone seems unchanged by this. Everything working as expected. My phone however has been draining battery MUCH faster both in SOT and standby time. I'm losing 2-3x more battery % overnight. In the last 20 mins of just reading through threads on the XDA forum app, I've lost about 10% battery. I'm sitting in the dark with my screen brightness very low too. (down another 5% since I started typing this!)
My wife and I have very similar phone habits. Since both our phones are optimized identically, and we used most of the same apps a play the same games, I started looking through everything different I've done in my phone since this problem started. I installed Adhell3, which seems to be setup properly and working. Mike B. from Adhell's Discord assured me that Adhell shouldn't be draining my battery. I'm mostly using it just to remove a bunch of basic bloatware and block some ads.
The update seems to have worked fine otherwise. My FP scanner is much better now, but something is definitely wrong. I've tried wiping the partition cache afterwards. I've tracked down others experiencing issues after this particular update, but cant seem to find a way to fix this problem yet. I saw something about Deep Sleep problems after the update when someone uses a VOIP service like Skype or WhatsApp, but I dont use anything like that. I can't even find a good tool to use to see more information about my battery usage, as the built-in battery monitor lacks a good deal of information. CPUspy doesn't work on my version.
If anyone has any ideas of what could be the culprit, what else I could try, or what tools I could use to try and track down what exactly is causing this sudden increase in drain, I'd really appreciate it.
Which update do you have ASBA or ASCA? This is rather weird, Battery drain can also come from restoring from backups. I lose 2% every night and my phone is on airplane mode, not connected to anything except location. I do not have adhell, and last time I tested before the fingerprint update I had 10h SoT on wifi purely. When I got the new fingerprint update I checked if the phone went to deep sleep and it does, so I really do not know what might be your issue. I have an exynos variant btw. Also I charge my phone constantly from 80 I let it drop to 40 and charge it back, I do not use fast charging options. Since unplugging my phone now on LTE fully I have lost 1% in 30 min, I have my fitbit always connected, location on, max resolution, I have a semi black wallpaper and brightness around 40-50%.
I will see today how much SoT I can get from 80% part wifi, part LTE, I will update.
clear cache helped a lot of people
Update 1
Reset all phone settings to factory. Don't do full factory reset, just all the settings, fixed my post update battery drain issues
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Hrrm. It seems I don't have ASBA or ASCA, I have ASD3. The March update.
I'm really hoping I don't end up having to factory reset and manually install everything... Because I did do a restore from backup with AT&T Transfer, because it seemed really convenient and time saving. I had no idea that so many people have had issues with restoring from various back up services (AT&T, Samsung, Google etc.)
I did the same restore from backup on my wife's S10+ too and she's had no problems. Her battery life is phenomenal. My battery issues only started after this last update.
SinisterDev said:
I'm really hoping I don't end up having to factory reset and manually install everything... Because I did do a restore from backup with AT&T Transfer, because it seemed really convenient and time saving. I had no idea that so many people have had issues with restoring from various back up services (AT&T, Samsung, Google etc.)
I did the same restore from backup on my wife's S10+ too and she's had no problems. Her battery life is phenomenal. My battery issues only started after this last update.
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Well that seems rather strange to be honest, you can eliminate possibilities by just testing and see what works. Last possibility can be that factory resetting and installing all new, but then again, it could be that it solves your issues or not. You should be having rather horizontal lines to prove your phone is truly going into deep sleep in my opinion, but also you can check with CPU Spy
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Try to log too safe mode and check the battery drain
If stopped then it was from an application that have a problem
If not I think it might be a system app or something
So. I'm starting to think that some of my problem has to do with wakelocks. Unfortunately I have limited access to wakelocks statistics since my phone is unrooted. However. Last night I fully charged my phone right before bed and then took it off the charger to see how much it would lose overnight. It dropped a whopping 10% vs the 1-2% it used to.
I looked through some of the battery info and noticed several apps running in the background for very long periods of time since last night. Chrome(2hrs) , Discord(2hrs), Google Play Services(a whopping 13hrs 30mins running in background) and Google Play store (5hrs)
Somehow Discord was responsible for draining 7.6% battery in that time!
So, could this be a wakelock issue causing my phone to lose so much battery overnight? I know that's only half the problem, because I'm also experiencing higher drain than usual while using certain apps too. But I'm trying to figure out one thing at time.
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So. I'm starting to think that some of my problem has to do with wakelocks. Unfortunately I have limited access to wakelocks statistics since my phone is unrooted. However. Last night I fully charged my phone right before bed and then took it off the charger to see how much it would lose overnight. It dropped a whopping 10% vs the 1-2% it used to.
I looked through some of the battery info and noticed several apps running in the background for very long periods of time since last night. Chrome(2hrs) , Discord(2hrs), Google Play Services(a whopping 13hrs 30mins running in background) and Google Play store (5hrs)
Somehow Discord was responsible for draining 7.6% battery in that time!
So, could this be a wakelock issue causing my phone to lose so much battery overnight? I know that's only half the problem, because I'm also experiencing higher drain than usual while using certain apps too. But I'm trying to figure out one thing at time.
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You can look at this thread and see if you can install the app without being root or not
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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Which update do you have ASBA or ASCA? This is rather weird, Battery drain can also come from restoring from backups. I lose 2% every night and my phone is on airplane mode, not connected to anything except location. I do not have adhell, and last time I tested before the fingerprint update I had 10h SoT on wifi purely. When I got the new fingerprint update I checked if the phone went to deep sleep and it does, so I really do not know what might be your issue. I have an exynos variant btw. Also I charge my phone constantly from 80 I let it drop to 40 and charge it back, I do not use fast charging options. Since unplugging my phone now on LTE fully I have lost 1% in 30 min, I have my fitbit always connected, location on, max resolution, I have a semi black wallpaper and brightness around 40-50%.
I will see today how much SoT I can get from 80% part wifi, part LTE, I will update.
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10 sot？！？！？you sure about it?!?whatever I try I always only have 7 something sot,how can you make it 10?!?
paullu said:
10 sot？！？！？you sure about it?!?whatever I try I always only have 7 something sot,how can you make it 10?!?
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I have done it before, I can look for the image, if you would like. That was a full day of wifi actually.
paullu said:
10 sot？！？！？you sure about it?!?whatever I try I always only have 7 something sot,how can you make it 10?!?
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Here is the pic
Also you can look at this thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/how-to/official-exynos-battery-life-thread-t3917814/page7
You have it good compared with me I get background drain on all apps and I have all apps set not to run in the background
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You have it good compared with me I get background drain on all apps and I have all apps set not to run in the background
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You just need to tweak your settings more, put which apps do not run on the background or go to sleep, how many days you need to wait to put unused apps to sleep. Is all tweaking the settings.
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You just need to tweak your settings more, put which apps do not run on the background or go to sleep, how many days you need to wait to put unused apps to sleep. Is all tweaking the settings.
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I've put all apps to sleep and they still register as been used
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I've put all apps to sleep and they still register as been used
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Then I don't what you can do, either do a factory reset and so not restore anything from backups and see if that works. I usually set my phone that way, clean no restoration from any backup all apps are installed manually, and I do not even use adhell to disable most of Samsung crap apps and services.