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Confused, where to start?

So I want to replace the factory double din head unit on my 09 Silverado. It has the bose premium stereo. Problem is I have no idea where to start with these head units. So many options. Joying seems to be the most popular from what I can tell but I don't see anything on the website that says it will work with my truck.
I want Google Music to work
I want factory controls to work
I'd like waze/maps
I want a back up camera.
So where to start??

I got mine on aliexpress. Granted it's for VW, it was plug and play with all controls and even fitted to my dash opening. Make sure you check on their mobile app. Mine was 56% off if ordered that way.
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Thanks. So far the GA5180F is the only model i can fine that i believe will work for me

Looks like this one will work:
http://www.roadnavi.com/product/m021-gmc-chevrolet-media-satnav-08-13/
email RoadNavi, their support is pretty great, they have been super helpful for me.
maybe this one from In-Dash.net:
http://www.in-dash.net/buy_en/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=12&product_id=45
but In-Dash is pretty new, needs a lot of tweaking based on their thread here, but it has much better hardware specs

Your first step is to google a standard double din stereo install for your specific Silverado and get the parts list for the dash kit and the wiring harness. Depending on the type of factory stereo you have, you may need a special harness to take care of all the Onstar stuff. See if there are adapters out there that you can reuse your existing backup camera or if you need to go completely aftermarket for the backup camera. I'm sure there is a Silverado specific forum out there that has a step by step write up on how to install a stereo into your Silverado.
Once you're comfortable knowing how to take apart your dash for a basic double din stereo install will take for your car, pick out the dash kit and wiring harness you need.
Then from there, choose any of the universal double din android head units you want. They're mostly the same and right now you can choose between the 4.4.4 and 5.1.1 models. The newer 5.1.1 has a few more built in features like dimming and whatnot that the older 4.4.4 units don't have. Outside of that, the only main difference between a lot of these android head units is which physical buttons you want on the front.
Once installed, tether your phone to the head unit and then configure it like you would any other android device.

Erisin es6405 or xtrons pb86mtvap ?

I decided to buy an android HU and these two are my choices
ERISIN ES6405
OR
XTRONS PB86MTVAP
Their specs, as well as their price, seem to be similar. The only differances are that the Erisin has 26.4 GB of internal storage, whlie the Xtrons has 32 GB and that the erisin has the typical VW layout with physical buttons, while the xtrons has touch only ones.
Which one you believe is the best, in terms of quality, output, support etc.?

s-tasos said:
I decided to buy an android HU and these two are my choices
ERISIN ES6405
OR
XTRONS PB86MTVAP
Their specs, as well as their price, seem to be similar. The only differances are that the Erisin has 26.4 GB of internal storage, whlie the Xtrons has 32 GB and that the erisin has the typical VW layout with physical buttons, while the xtrons has touch only ones.
Which one you believe is the best, in terms of quality, output, support etc.?
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i think erisin is more common and likely to have morge / better support

I have the same problem, not sure which one to choose. Also, those models are Volkswagen-specific, and I own a Skoda Octavia II 2006. I think it will work, but not sure 100%.
Erisin ES6405V
Erisin ES6698V
Xtrons PB86MTVAP
Apparently the three models have the same chipset: Rockchip PX5 – RK3368 (octacore) though the Xtrons does not specifically states it.
Spanish erisin reseller told me that Xtrons models have better quality than Erisin ones. Anyway, I dont like the Xtrons model since it does not have physical buttons. Between the other two, I'd go for the 6405v since it has 8" instead of 7".
Regarding the dimensions of the head unit to fit my car, I have a fascia front plate that replaces the original one to fit a Columbus RNS510 original nav, which according to google, has:
Front face plate at the widest point is 218 x 128. Rear is 178 x 110 with a depth behind the facia 189.
Which is very close to the dimensions of the erisin head unit, so looks pretty standard for all navs for the VW group.

Hi, I’ve just purchased and installed the Xtrons PB86MTVAP Head unit into my 2010 Skoda Octavia. Installation went fine although it was tricky to loom all the wires and find a suitable route for the USB cables.
Overall I’m very impressed with the HU, the screen is nice and the stock launcher and Apps are very intuitive. A few niggles I have is;
When I’m in the FM radio app and I find a station, I long press on the pre-set to store it but when I turn off the HU and take the key out they all reset?
When using the DAB radio which I have the extra unit for, when I’m in the app and playing a DAB radio channel its perfect, but when I come out of the App and leave it playing in the background it stutters and is unlistenable.
I also need to keep an eye on battery drain, as when I turn it off and leave the car then come back the next day it doesn’t boot up from cold, it literally takes 2 seconds which I wasn’t expecting.

levy9 said:
Hi, I’ve just purchased and installed the Xtrons PB86MTVAP Head unit into my 2010 Skoda Octavia.
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Octavia 2010 is still a Octavia II? (maybe the facelift they made in 2010 for the O2).
Do you have a fascia front plate to adapt the unit to the Columbus RNS510?
What's the chipset of the head unit? Is the PX5?
Any photos?
The USB ports I think the best way is to route them to the ash tray.

corpcd said:
Octavia 2010 is still a Octavia II? (maybe the facelift they made in 2010 for the O2).
Do you have a fascia front plate to adapt the unit to the Columbus RNS510?
What's the chipset of the head unit? Is the PX5?
Any photos?
The USB ports I think the best way is to route them to the ash tray.
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Yes it’s the facelift model on a 10 plate, Columbus shape faceplate is on order but I’ve only gone for an aftermarket ebay one for now, until I can source an original Skoda one for a reasonable price.
Both USBs I’ve routed inside the dash to the end where the end cap comes off, 1 of them has the DAB aerial going to the window the other will have a stick which I’ll fill up with media and it’ll permanently live inside there, it can be changed if needed by taking the end cap off.
I have no idea on the chipsets sorry and I can sort pictures over the weekend, I need to sort this pre-set radio stations issue, I believe I need to swap round the live wires in the ISO connector. (red and yellow wires)

levy9 said:
I have no idea on the chipsets sorry and I can sort pictures over the weekend, I need to sort this pre-set radio stations issue, I believe I need to swap round the live wires in the ISO connector. (red and yellow wires)
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I think you can see the chipset on the settings menu or using cpu-z.

levy9 said:
I believe I need to swap round the live wires in the ISO connector. (red and yellow wires)
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If you dont mind, take a picture of the power connector, Erisin reseller does not guarranty the 6405 model will be compatible with my car, so i am wondering on buying a PB86MTVAP.
Where did you buy it? How long did it take to arrive where?

I have it all installed now, was a bit of a ***** losing all the loom of wires behind the dash so won't be able to take a picture of the connector sorry.
Played with the wiring the other night to try and sort the radio losing my preset stations, but I managed to drain the battery over night so put it back!
Other than the radio I'm really happy with the unit, got mine from xtrons UK, arrived the next day. When I get a minute I'll take some pictures, just missing a new facia trim on back order from skoda.

Looks like Xtrons has reseased another unit for the VAG group: PB96MTVAPL, its like a PB86MTVAP without DVD, with a higher screen 9" vs 8" and a little bit cheaper. Also, I see no SD slots, though the webpage states it has.

Hi, I'm considering the x trons PB86MTVAP, does anyone know which chipset this comes with? I'm a little concerned that it isn't listed on the website.

s-tasos said:
I decided to buy an android HU and these two are my choices
ERISIN ES6405
OR
XTRONS PB86MTVAP
Their specs, as well as their price, seem to be similar. The only differances are that the Erisin has 26.4 GB of internal storage, whlie the Xtrons has 32 GB and that the erisin has the typical VW layout with physical buttons, while the xtrons has touch only ones.
Which one you believe is the best, in terms of quality, output, support etc.?
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Hi there,
If you are a girl will choose the design ... I'm kidding ...
The most important things are the specifications of the 1. Main board (integrates all the components, can limit some characteristics of components and the speed) 2. Processor (this set the power speed with less power consumption so I recommend octa-core) 3. Memory (much with higher speed better I recommend 4GB RAM and 32GB ROM with right speed) 4. Display (HD 1024x600 minimum) 5. Access for external devices like Rear CCD IR View Camera night-vision waterproof, DVR Full-HD night-vision camera for traffic recording, SD card for mp3 audio and mp4 video files, SD card for GPS maps and installation files, USB connectors, antennas for GPS and radio, the right power connector for your car (carefull), bluetooth for your mobile phone (check depending of your android or IOS if work) and the most important check the REAL DIMENSIONS to can fit in your car and fix it well to can not easy be take out from somebody (you need have also the right KEYS put in the 4 holes for the right installation). Maybe are also other extra but they are not so important believe me ...
Best regards,
Maybe you don't need to have all the best specifications (depending for what you want to use) because the payment will be higher

Guidance for Android Head Unit

I currently have a Kenwood KVT614 head unit that I hate with a passion. I can't stand the useless screen (without apps it really serves no purpose), the navigation software and about everything.
As a result I am considering switching the head unit out and I love the idea of something running android.
My car is an electric car and it only has a single DIN slot, so I am somewhat constrained in my choices.
Ideally I am looking for an android head unit that covers the following:
- Can run android apps, e.g. navigation (both offline and online via the phone)
- Tethering - I read that some headunits have issues with Bluetooth tethering which is obviously much better for phone battery
- Having an electric car, I actually want the headunit to turn OFF (not sleep) when the car is off
- Screen size: not too big - probably 6-7 inches or I saw some "very wide" widescreens at 8.8 inches that would fit well
- I also like the idea of screen mirroring or android auto (and carplay) working but I would very much prefer for this to work via wireless (not some stupid cable)
- power consumption would ideally be as little as possible with this being in an electric car ...
Does anyone have any recommendations?
I have been looking at some of Joying units, since they seem to be the most modern android head units with 4GB RAM, 32 or 64GB storage and running Android 8.0 or 8.1 …
Would love to get some feedback.

And how do I determine whether a head unit is a MTCB or MTCD, or whatever?
Is there a database or list somewhere? Does this no longer apply to new headunits?

It's too bad there is no sticky or wiki with recommendations and some guides.
Once you know your board (MTCx) there is some decent info, but for someone looking for a single DIN headunit there current forum setup is pretty useless.

No one helps here much.

The new joying intel based units have a new dsp chip that will blow everything out of the water in android platforms. I ordered on last week. Will be doing a review on it by next weekend hopefully

Can Anyone ID this E46 Unit?

*picture removed - its a Chinese "OEM" looking unit with a purple IR dot bottom right*
Bought an M3 last week and it had this unit in it.
I've not really got a clue how to use it to It's strength though.
I've currently got my phone hotspot turned on 24/7 as I can't see a way of having it come on when it connects to the car.
The launcher in that picture is a pain as the radio app is junk. I can't tune any FM stations other than Radio 2 and 4. Is there an app that can tune actual FM radio rather than Internet radio that's fit for a car?
I've been playing around with a launcher called Agama tonight which allows me to control what apps open from the touch screen, if I can get a proper FM tuner, can it be mapped to the hard button?
I'm sure I'll have more questions so get used to the sight of me and sorry in advance.
Edit: can't post the picture until I've got 10 posts. Hoping some of you more familiar with these types of head units can help.

Without a picture, it's really hard to say what unit it is, but it is possibly one of the Eonon or Xtrons units, take a look at their websites and see if you can ID the unit. Also, take a look in Settings->About Machine and tell us what info is in there, including the firmware version and MCU type/version, which will help in id-ing the unit and giving advice on how to progress.
If it's not too old, then you may be able to install a custom ROM to get it up to date (easy to do). There are other Radio apps that you can use, but setting them as the default can be a pain, I'm not 100% sure but I think you will need a custom ROM to be able to achieve this.

I reckon you might have it with Xtrons based on the button pattern.
Top left down is Navi, Band, Menu, Mode
Some in Google images have different buttons such as home (which the menu seems to do in mine)
I couldn't tell anything of use from the settings but I recall it has android 9 so it can't be that old. It's in better condition that the rest of the interior that's for sure.
I have two female USB's sticking out from under the steering column. What might they be for?
Can anyone recommend a proper tuner app for the radio that uses actual FM radio rather than the Internet?
Thanks for looking.

Another question, do these Chinese units have a sub output?
I don't have HK in the car so looking for a little extra bass.

So I went the medieval route to identifying the unit - I pulled it out and had a look.
The only markings to give it away was a huge "hizpo" sticker on the side. Google/ebay search found this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/7-DAB-An...071044?hash=item5b72aea104:g:R4sAAOSwxMFemRw5
Although that is Android 10 and mine is 9
Looks like a piece of junk tbh. Is it worse junk than it's simular Eonon and Xtron counterparts?
I've been left with the bare minimum wiring at the back. None of the audio/visual in/outputs are there. The GPS antenna is just a stubby on the back of the unit, there's nothing for DAB.
What do we think, junk it and replace it or try and get the right ancillaries?
I was thinking of a small sub and amp and a reverse camera and would like DAB which are all out at the moment..

Hi Matt,
most do not come with DAB+ but you get a usb dongle and install an app, DAB-Z is very good,
https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/3031914365...SWq6_GyD1IyftEY8s3tRj4-ntcgqxfuxoCnX4QAvD_BwE
some of these units are poor, so can be very good. Little hard to tell without the full details of your unit, and if you dont have all the wiring for your sub etc, then its down to you if you replace it or not

RossMacgill said:
Hi Matt,
most do not come with DAB+ but you get a usb dongle and install an app, DAB-Z is very good,
https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/3031914365...SWq6_GyD1IyftEY8s3tRj4-ntcgqxfuxoCnX4QAvD_BwE
some of these units are poor, so can be very good. Little hard to tell without the full details of your unit, and if you dont have all the wiring for your sub etc, then its down to you if you replace it or not
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Are the wiring harnesses the same across the units that all look the same?
I ask that with a small hope I could buy just the harness but I can't find Eonon or Xtrons sell them on their own.
If you were to recommend the better units, what ones would you say? Has to be from the OEM look selection. Don't like naff looking screens sticking out of the dash.
I keep looking back to the Avin Avant 4 which is much closer to the OEM look with the button layout and has a lot of extra's, one of which is the ibus interface. You seem to be able to access the cars computers like NCS and do basic coding, show the PDC radar and potentially show navigations cues on the binnacle,.
That appears to be a 3rd party gadget I could add to this unit if I wanted to but not sure this one is worth it.
I will say I found an option in the equaliser "loud" that has made a vast improvement to the audio. but it still feels like it needs a sub.

Matt_Android said:
Are the wiring harnesses the same across the units that all look the same?
I ask that with a small hope I could buy just the harness but I can't find Eonon or Xtrons sell them on their own.
If you were to recommend the better units, what ones would you say? Has to be from the OEM look selection. Don't like naff looking screens sticking out of the dash.
I keep looking back to the Avin Avant 4 which is much closer to the OEM look with the button layout and has a lot of extra's, one of which is the ibus interface. You seem to be able to access the cars computers like NCS and do basic coding, show the PDC radar and potentially show navigations cues on the binnacle,.
That appears to be a 3rd party gadget I could add to this unit if I wanted to but not sure this one is worth it.
I will say I found an option in the equaliser "loud" that has made a vast improvement to the audio. but it still feels like it needs a sub.
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No, the wiring is different on them, so your better off replacing the unit. Eonon and Xtrons have a good following and also dev's playing around with bits, so it would be a good route to go down, but dont hold me to that if it goes wrong haha, also PX6 should be good units, so another safer bet

Sorry, I am a complete noob here and have noticed this in the various different sites selling them - PX6? What is that, is it just the chip in the same vein as a snapdragon for instance?
Th Avant one comes in either PX30 or PX6 - other than the RAM and the storage, what's the benefit of the PX6? Process/bootup speed?

Matt_Android said:
Sorry, I am a complete noob here and have noticed this in the various different sites selling them - PX6? What is that, is it just the chip in the same vein as a snapdragon for instance?
Th Avant one comes in either PX30 or PX6 - other than the RAM and the storage, what's the benefit of the PX6? Process/bootup speed?
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Rockchip is a manufacturer of SoCs (Systems on a chip), they make a range of general-purpose SoCs (eg RK3399). The PX6 is a SoC based on their RK3399 specifically tailored towards android head units. PX6 is the latest, it is a 6 core processor. The PX5 (based on RK3368) is the previous version, it is an 8 core processor. I don't know much about PX30, I believe it is older than PX5. PX6 is faster in most benchmarks despite having fewer processor cores. For the small-screen in-dash units, you probably want to look at Xtrons or Avin, they both have relatively good reputations
I have one of the 9" screen units in my E39 (very similar dash to the E46) and to my eyes, it just looks like it is meant to be there. It's not a perfect fit, but it is very close. But the extra screen real estate makes it more than worth the trade-off imho.

I only noticed today (because I was watching a YouTube video of one being installed) the Avant 4 has no disc drive at all. I rarely use discs, granted, but not sure I'm ready to sacrifice the option altogether.

Unbranded head unit microphone upgrade

Hi everyone,
I recently bought a used 2010 Prius with an android HU. It's unbranded (noname) and pretty weak (1gb ram). I could live with the android performance issues but the microphone is driving me crazy. Nobody can hear what i'm saying. The unit has an external mic and i wanted to upgrade it to a different one but for some reason, the mic that's connected to the HU has 5 wires (last picture) and the one i ordered only 2 (mono jack). There's also no mic jack. Here are my questions:
1. Is there a way to connect a different mono mic?
2. Does anyone have any idea what unit this is and where i can find a wiring diagram?
3. Can you recommend a better unit? I like the ones that look more like stock, with physical buttons.
4. Any known fix for the error in the picture? "Software has not been authorized legally" when trying to use Easyconnect to mirror my phone.
I need any info i can get, you don't have to have all the answers
Thanks!

I googled "Sp9853i_1h10_vmm" (taken from one of your photos). Turned up quite a few results. I have not had experience with that particular unit but maybe might turn up some useful information for you perhaps.

Not an MTCD, requesting mod moves to [Android Head units] forum.

jlbooth said:
I googled "Sp9853i_1h10_vmm" (taken from one of your photos). Turned up quite a few results. I have not had experience with that particular unit but maybe might turn up some useful information for you perhaps.
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Thanks for the reply. I've done that first the problem is there are multiple manufacturers with multiple configurations. I contacted Seicane and am still in the process of identifying the unit/software with them but the back and forth is pretty slow..

This is not your "standard" moddable unit, I'm afraid. Most information here and on forums like 4PDA is on units based on 2 main technologies:
1. 8227L Mediatek, system: YT921xx
2. Rockchip PX3, PX5, PX6, PX30 based on MTCx chip.
By having a quick look at what you got, the mic is the least of your problems. These units are packed with so called features but need considerable hardware and software modding to make them work and even excel.
Here is an example of one such modded units, started off as cheap £70 Android, and ended up performing on par with luxury Android units. The video shows the mods, just to give you an understanding.
To save you time, invest in a Dasaita MTCE unit as that one requires least mods to perform well. You can find them for around £200 on AliExpress. Good luck!

Thanks for the info. I'll look into one of the PX chips and go for dasaita.

so i've found a single Dasaita unit for Prius G3 https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001625066855.html?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.20fa2e0eCiCqeA
The problem is i can't find this model on Dasaita website or store and i'm not sure it's real. I've emailed Dasaita but no reply..
There are multiple units from diferent brands (Ownice, Wondefoo..). Can i go for one of those? What should i look for?
Some sellers list the "K6 plus" version as the top of the line. Should i still go for PX6 or is that better?