Hi all,
I want to ask to confirm a few things since my experience with android almost came from samsung notes, and I always unlock bootloader and root it right after I get my phones. Thanks in advance.
I bought a moto x pure edition from bh photo recently, and was thinking about unlock bootloader, root and enjoy the some features that need root access and/or customized room.
But I see that the vanilla (manufacturer) rom is very good and the release of OTA updates are relative reliably fast. My questions is
if I unlock bootloader and root, do I still have the OTA capability (I have to ask since I have not explore a lot customized room side of the moto x pure edition)?
if yes, what will happen if the OTA is applied? phone relocked or bootloader unlock and root access as usual?
Thanks
If you unlock bootloader, you will still have OTAs, but, im not sure if you root will still have OTA, i think yes, i think you loose OTAs if you change something in the firmware, but im not sure with the root tbh...
leo_cheng said:
Hi all,
I want to ask to confirm a few things since my experience with android almost came from samsung notes, and I always unlock bootloader and root it right after I get my phones. Thanks in advance.
I bought a moto x pure edition from bh photo recently, and was thinking about unlock bootloader, root and enjoy the some features that need root access and/or customized room.
But I see that the vanilla (manufacturer) rom is very good and the release of OTA updates are relative reliably fast. My questions is
if I unlock bootloader and root, do I still have the OTA capability (I have to ask since I have not explore a lot customized room side of the moto x pure edition)?
if yes, what will happen if the OTA is applied? phone relocked or bootloader unlock and root access as usual?
Thanks
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If you are unlocked only, it has zero effect on updates... if you unlocked and modified in anyway (root, TWRP, Xposed, whatever) the update with fail and either get stuck in recovery or bootloop, usually just wiping cache will get it booting again. OTAs cannot be applied unless you are purely stock.
Moto's will not relock the bootloader unless you specifically do it, but really there is no need to ever... other than purely security, there is nothing that can be regained by relocked that was lost in unlocking, including your warranty. Once you have been issues an unlock token, whether it is used or not, your warranty is gone forever.
Also be aware that rooting Moto's on Marshmallow is a bit different than older ways of rooting and requires a few extra steps, do your research on systemless and you won't have any problems.
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Guys,
A couple of days ago I bought a new Sony xperia x compact (MM 6.0.1). To get rid of al those bloatware, I wanted to root the device first before using it.
Now I've tried a couple of root apps (by apk as well as by computer), like kingoroot and wondershare etc, but none of them rooted my device...
Before desperately trying all of them, is there anyone who rooted his Sony xperia x compact (F5321)?? And do you have a tutorial or small explanation how you fixed it?
Kind regards!
Henk from Holland
Hi!
Check thise out;
" http://forum.xda-developers.com/x-compact/development/advanced-stock-kernel-twrp-xperia-x-t3464685 "
Thanks for your quick answer!
It sounds complicated and I'm not experienced in flashing bootloaders... And I'm wondering if that's really necesarry. I just want to remove some preinstalled apps. I don't want to flash a custom ROM.
NL_henk said:
Thanks for your quick answer!
It sounds complicated and I'm not experienced in flashing bootloaders... And I'm wondering if that's really necesarry. I just want to remove some preinstalled apps. I don't want to flash a custom ROM.
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Yes, in order to root the device you must unlock the bootloader (via Sony's website) and flash a custom recovery/kernel and then your choice of superuser (SuperSU or phh's).
This will continue to be the case until the (increasingly unlikely) case that a root exploit is found that works on MM phones.
Z5 series had the virtue of being shipped with Lollipop, which was apparently slightly more vulnerable.
Also note that you will lose some functionality if you unlock the bootloader, including but not limited to camera enhancements and PS remote play
OK! I saw on Sony's website the tutorial to unlock the bootloader. Sounds doable to me.
Should it be enough, after unlocking the bootloader and installing SuperSU, to remove the bloatware? Or do I also have to flash the kernel?
Hi!
I think, easiest if you stay on stock rom, you should install a modificated / advanced stock kernel, like i posted above. But, i think its working rom version base must be " 34.1.A.1.198 ".
Or, after unlocked bootloader, flash with fastboot a good working!!! custom recovery ( i think the only one today is a twrp " https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0j3VJ1Xp5N8M1ZGbzBBMTdyRnM/view " ). after that, flash supersu. In this case, i dont known to much about drm fix, please search other forums.
Sry about the terrible shorthand. Finally broke down and factory reset my verizon gs5. Before setting up i decided to roll it back, root it, and get a debloated PB1 rom from here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/root-method-og5-ok3-t3290370
So, if like me, and you have the nov/dec VZW OTA update on your phone PJ2 if i recall, this link got me rolled back and rooted. This method added busybox which i didn't really understand, safestrap which i actually kinda liked, and initially kingroot then the flash went to superSU.
I kinda liked the marshmallow os a touch better with the google now launcher and everything verizon as removed as possible vs 5.x.x. Basically the verizon OTA update to marshmallow essentially bricked my phone (not enough space after like 3 years of never re-formatting). I love my tablet that essentially runs just a bare bones no BS google android marshmallow software similar to what a pixel has or nexus had.
Doin more reading looking for such a rom i found this link:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...t/rd-unlocking-galaxys-s5-bootloader-t3337909
This successfully unlocked the bootloader. They omit that you should make sure you have the rom on he phone or sd card before starting. So before using odin make sure the rom is on the phone and matched the bootloader unlocker you wish to use. This method of flashing used TWRP recovery which i found to be...different than safestrap but functional all the same.
QUESTION 1
Is there a rom for the SM-G900V that is similar or identical to a non branded google device like how the pixel comes stock?
I haven't messed around with the phone since unlocking the bootloader and flashing it to the VZW_BPB1_ODEX_DEODEX_V9 using the TWRP Recovery. Basically if my best bet is a debloated stock but rooted vzw rom that is 6.x.x and then manually removing/deactivating the garbage from vzw apps i'll do it. But figured this was the place to ask if there was already a rom out there that works on the SM-G900V. Because i can easily put a rom that does the job instead of tinkering more than i have too.
QUESTION 2
Now that i used the SafeStrap_PB1_Bootloader_Unlock_AIO.zip and flashed VZW_BPB1_ODEX_DEODEX_V9.zip using the method from the second link. It APPEARS i can just load a 6.x.x rom and use TWRP Recovery to flash that. Am i mistaken? Will i need to do the unlock bootloader process over for the PD1 PF4 or whatever boatloader unlocker corresponds with the rom. OR...now that the bootloader is no longer verizon'ed can i basically swap roms to my hearts content as long as they do not also try to install a new bootlaoder??
I have no idea how to "tag" either poster from the links i mentioned but i'm certain many here as well as they could answer both questions easily.
hi guys / gals i have a quick question
am I correct to think that everyone that has the moto g5 plus and has twrp and a rom installed has their boot loader unlocked
how do you feel about having an unlocked bootloader does it bother you or is it not really a big deal ?
I had twrp on my phone with lineage but that screen that was warning me about not being able to trust my phone got to me and I had to flash stock and re lock my bootloader but now I miss having 7.1.2 and now i'm stuck on android 7.0
sorry if I sound stupid i'm just looking for everyone view on the unlocked boot and if its worth it
thanks
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I'm only speaking for myself here but most of us have been on this phone flashing stuff for quite a few years as of now, so the bootloader unlocking and all that jazz is just standard procedure to get to the spicy custom ROMs. Regarding this phone i haven't tried out a custom rom yet but i suspect i will very soon due to being used to some of the stuff custom ROMs provide (like idk data tickers on the status bar or all that jazz).
Hope this helps mate
That's standard, just flash a new logo bin. It'll ease your mind.
Ok, I bought a new Verizon S5 in July of 2015. I rooted it a couple days later using Towelroot. The CID is 11, so it has a locked bootloader. I never had a single issue with the phone, and honestly, never thought about doing any updates, as it just kept chugging along dependable every day. I recently retired the S5, as I bought a mint, used Note 4 and fell in love with it. I am getting ready to sell the S5, but want to fully update it to 6.0.1 Marshmallow DQH2. I am not worried about losing root, as I am selling the phone, and will probably remove root anyway. I have a few questions though:
1) Can I update from Kit Kat all the way to Marshmallow and the latest update, or do I have to do it in increments?
2) Is it easier to update, then remove root?
3) What would be the easiest way to update to DQH2?
4) Since its rooted, can I just download the stock DQH2 firmware and flash it in Odin and go from KK to MM?
4A) If it can be flashed as stated above, will I lose root?
4A-1) Is there a rooted DQH2 firmware that can be flashed?
Thanks in Advance!!!
0) Check if Reactivation Lock is turned OFF.
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4) Flash this DQH2 and it will erase everything, including root.
4A) Yes.
4A-1) No.
Forget the rest of the questions.
P.S. The first boot after flashing will take 10-15 min. so be patient.
bbsc said:
0) Check if Reactivation Lock is turned OFF.
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4) Flash this DQH2 and it will erase everything, including root.
4A) Yes.
4A-1) No.
Forget the rest of the questions.
P.S. The first boot after flashing will take 10-15 min. so be patient.
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Thanks. Whats the highest I can update, and retain root? I am re-thinking things now, as the package disabler app I was using and very fond of.... has been updated, and evidently does not work like it used to. I used this app on my Note 4, and was so happy with being able to disable all the bloatware and OTA etc... that I didnt bother to root the Note 4. I thought that if I lost root upgrading the S5, I would just install the same package disabler app, so it wouldnt be a problem, as thats really the only reason I root.... to get rid of bloatware. I may want to keep root now though
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Whats the highest I can update, and retain root?
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BPB1, Android 5.0.
You may also like the idea to install a custom debloated 6.0.1 ROM without root. If you've decided not to sell the S5.
Just another viewpoint if you haven't updated the phone yet: there are buyers who look primarily for phones with earlier versions of android, and it could actually increase the value/selling chance of your phone if you keep it on an earlier version and advertise it as such.
This gives the purchaser the opportunity to install the version they might want, especially since it's relatively difficult to find a Verizon S5 (or any Verizon Samsung phone) with 1. an unlocked bootloader and 2. an earlier version of Android such as KitKat installed.
I know this doesn't necessarily answer your questions, but it might be of benefit.
I own a G950U and have been holding out updating dealing with the annoying system upgrade notifications since i'm still on bootloader rev.2. My question is, is it even worth the trouble of rooting and flasing the one or two roms that are avaiable for this model or should i just update and stay stock (as there doesn't seem to be much in the rom development area of samsung devices going forward)?
Im stuck at the same point. I kinda wished i never rooted my phone, and I somewhat messed up and got stuck in a bootloop. Long story short i fixed it and am running this root by PartyCyborg and I like it alot. https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/development/root-partcyborgrom-aqi6-deodexed-t3702988 theres the link and its the newest one not previous versions. If your going to run a Root this is what I would do.
yea I run stock rooted And i debate wether to upgrade so my sim unlocking software can unlock mine or stay root And so far I have stayed rooted
Yea...It seems to be a matter of opinion if your a legacy rom/root installer or up-to-date current tech type...I belong to the latter so I assume i'd be happier with this option, I've checked out this rom and attempted install one time, but quickly reverted due to time constrictions, but now that i have the time am trying to decide (because it doesn't always go right on the 1st try, lol) Thanks for the input guys!
btw, which carrier do you use? I have Verizon and was wondering about the hotspot issues i've read about.