Hi Friends,
Hope you're all having a great new year. So last time I was lurking the S7E forums, we had a leaked Engineering Bootloader that was used to acquire root on all US Snapdragon models, albeit, with a lot performance issues and etc.
I came here to glance as well as all other variant forums for the SD model and now we have Root for every model, with even ROMs being baked like the Echo ROM for Verizon, Sprint, AT&T models, usually the toughest to achieve these things on. I'm trying to read through the forums, but I fear I'm missing the details, that will help me pull the trigger for getting the device or not.
Can one of you very experienced, knowledgeable, and kind members educate me on the latest?
1. Do we have unlocked Bootloader and Root for all US carrier S7Es? How is it done? I use people using Flashfire. So no TWRP?
2. Does this process still trip Knox and render Samsung Pay to never be used again on the device?
3. If I bought the Verizon variant, for example, can I root, unlock Bootloader, and etc, and then return to stock, to return to the store in case I don't like the phone?
4. Xposed Framework working for all models?
Much appreciate your responses, any and all of them in advance! Thanks!
1. No public unlocked Bootloader on any US variant. Flashfire works but no custom recovery
2. Right now with eng Kernel and custom(ish) roms like Echo don't trip Knox since it is still the U firmware of the s7
3. You can root and jump to roms like echo or other stockish roms and return to normal and return to store but no unlocked bootloader
4. Far as I know Xposed works on most if not all (I have mine on and Att variant running Echo) It is installed/Flashed via Flashfire and is a custom version.
Since we still need the leaked Eng Kernel we still have massive performance and battery lose. There are guides to alleviate these issues but its still not as good as stock. Even roms like echo require it for root. So remember that before you jump in
1. Do we have unlocked Bootloader and Root for all US carrier S7Es? How is it done? I use people using Flashfire. So no TWRP?
There is no bootloader unlock for the US carrier variants of the device as of yet, senior forums members are guessing there probably won't be, either. What is being done successfully is rooting via an engineering kernel. Visit the carrier-specific sub-forum for your S7E model to ensure you're using the appropriate method and files when flashing. Flashfire is being used after the fact, for things like xposed. There is no custom recovery option for any of the US models that I'm aware of.2. Does this process still trip Knox and render Samsung Pay to never be used again on the device?
None of the outlined processes will trip Knox, as they don't modify or replace the bootloader. Samsung Pay should still work fine when rooted, as far as I've read.3. If I bought the Verizon variant, for example, can I root, unlock Bootloader, and etc, and then return to stock, to return to the store in case I don't like the phone?
The Verizon variant has some of the better documentation and support for root, but AT&T and T-Mo carrier models can also be rooted. I'm currently running the firmware for the T-Mo variant on my AT&T model and loving it. I'm not rooted, as the engineering kernel is absolute crap in terms of performance/battery life balance, but it is a fluid stock experience w/out bloatware.4. Xposed Framework working for all models?
As far as I know, yes.
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(my browser spazzed and I lost my last post if it shows up as a double ignore the other one!)
I'm new to Android and finding it confusing so thanks for the help so far!
I have a 910F Note 4 on Lollipop and want to root it to get rid of bloatware and possibly stop ads (if I can convince myself it's ethical) btu I *may* want to custom ROM it later.
So far your help and my reading have taught me this:
-- I can root using chainfire in order to get rid of bloat and block ads
-- If after rooting I later want a custom ROM or Xposed I'll need to get custom recovery in which case I'll be able to add CWM or TWRP later to my rooted phone
Assuming the above are true (if not please tell me!!) my question is this:
What on earth is oem unlock/bootloader unlock? In my reading I've come across people talking about this and it wiping the phone. I can't find an easy answer online. If I root +/- do CWM/TWRP will that automatically do OEM unlock or are they different things? Is bootloader unlock a different thing too? I'm confused! Will I need to root AND custom recovery AND oem unlock AND unlock bootloader?
Thanks in advance!!!
Some devices come with a locked bootloader, where you may be able to root the device via an exploit, but you can't change lower level software (ie kernel and/or recovery)... unless there is an unlock method for the bootloader.
The devices that do have a locked bootloader can be locked by the manufacturer, or by the carrier. That's the difference between the two. Either way the bootloader is still locked, only difference is who called for the locking.
For example, note 4 on tmobile does not have a locked bootloader, however, note 4 on at&t does. That decision was made by at&t, not Samsung. As far as I know, the at&t variant does not have a method for unlocking the bootloader yet so there's not much development for the device.
Compare to nexus devices, where Google automatically has the manufacturer lock the bootloader, but it being a development device, it's the easiest bootloader to unlock. It's literally a one line command in adb. HTC devices are locked but you can get an HTC dev code to unlock it from HTC.
I hope that makes sense. The best way to determine if your device has a locked bootloader is to visit the development forum or the general/Q&A forums for your device. If you have a locked bootloader and there is an unlock method, you only have to do it once (until you update or relock your bootloader). Some locked devices never get an unlock method. It designed to maintain the security and integrity of the device, but it also prevents user tampering.
Thank you for your thorough reply absinthesummer, very helpful.
However I'm still a little confused. My reading suggests to me that T-Mobile (910T) is *rootable* and the AT&T version (910S?) is not *rootable* but I'm in the UK and don't use these providers I use EE. And so I have the international variant of the Note 4 which is the 910F. I don't see a subforum or help for the UK EE version of the note 4 but as it's the 910F I assume that's the one I need to search for and not worry that EE will have put their own lock onto the 910F??
Now, because this happens to coincide with what you are saying has a locked bootloader or not, am I to assume that whether or not something is rootable is the same as whether or not it has an unlockable bootloader? i.e. is something only rootable or not because its bootloader is unlockable or not? If so therefore am I correct to assume that as the 910F which I have is rootable that it is also bootloadunlockable? And furthermore am I correct to assume that the very process of rooting itself unlocks the bootloader? Or perhaps in the case of the 910F it doesn't need to be so is even easier than Nexus devices? i.e. I just simply root and that in itself mean bootloader is already unlocked (and I am assuming that oem unlock is the same thing?)
I'm getting myself in a muddle I think!
Hehe it's totally cool, and yes your carrier could put a lock on it but that's incredibly rare in Europe due to frequent traveling between countries and the need to change Sims and carriers often... or at least that's what I've been told. The US carriers who lock their bootloaders are typically GSM carriers who do not expect you to need to root/carrier unlock/whatever. It's a control thing imo.
Anyway, your note 4 does not have a locked bootloader. If you check the development forum for your device you will see plenty of roms and guides and directions for rooting. That's usually a good indication that a device is unlocked (and those anticipating the release of new devices tend to get lock information prior to release, so they know which device they intend to buy).
Anyway, since you don't have a locked bootloader I wouldn't worry about it... that reminds me of a device I had for about a week, the LG L9. It had an oem bootloader lock but the international variant did not. We could root it & use a specially designed recovery with the bootloader locked but we couldn't flash a custom kernel (with a custom rom). They figured out that we could flash the international firmware and unlock that way, but it would make our display backwards (mirrored) and while that could be fixed, we would never be able to revert the boot screen. Now that's way too much trouble to go through just to unlock a bootloader and I did end up returning it and getting an s3 instead.
Bootloader locks are no fun, but they are not often placed on international devices for various reasons, so really I wouldn't worry about it too much.
If you get a device like a Google nexus, or an HTC that has a known locked bootloader, the bootloader and unlock method will be specifically mentioned in the routing guide. I hope that helps.
One more thing: rootability and locked bootloaders are not mutually exclusive, sometimes you can root devices with locked bootloaders and sometimes people will come up with ways around them (ie note 3 has safe strap recovery that runs parallel to stock recovery) to be able to use custom roms. However, if no exploit is found and there is no workaround, development will stall until one or both of those things is found. You may be able to root a device with a locked BL, but you may not be able to flash custom roms/kernels without a workaround. What I meant though is if you see a popular device with very little development, that's probably due to a locked bootloader and not having found a way around it yet. Most guides will explicitly mention the BL though if it's something you need to do
Yet another thoroughly helpful and detailed reply. Thank you very much indeed. You're a star!
I have a verizon samsung galaxy note 3 as many already know after 4.4.4 was released verizon locked the note 3 boot loader so users cannot down grade back to 4.4.2 and the only successful root process that works is on 4.4.2 at this time as far as I've researched so my question is if I were to pay verizon the sim unlocking fee and switch to a carrier that has a known properly working root process, in theory would this work. ? Any feed back would be great. Hoping this will work??!! If any thing I've said is confusing please reply and I'll try my best to reword it.
You're assuming that when you pay the fee that verizon will flash you with an unlocked boot chain. Don't think it's possible. If I'm not mistaken, some of the trust zones are flashed then locked with a physical fuse.
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So paying the unlocking fee then say you buy a BYOD (bring your own device) kit from t-mobile, straight talk etc, activate the phone with the new carrier (preferably a carrier that currently has a root method that works) then proceed with rooting said device?
Again I'm new to the forum as well as new to the concert of rooting, flashing custom roms etc so please respond in laymens terms
Idk if it could work, I'm just trying to explore any possible solutions to the problem of when android 4.4.4 was released (verizon released theirs with a locked bootloader and if my reseach is correct, there are root processes working for android versions after 4.4.2 on other cell carriers.
So what I'm trying to figure out is if I found a root process that is known to be working on for example (a root process that works on t-mobile, sprint, at&t etc)if I paid to unlock the damn sim and activate the SM-N900V on a cell carrier that so happens to have a working root process, what is the likely hood of it working?
Or
Will it be a complete waste of time, effort, and money to atempt?
Riwd98 said:
So paying the unlocking fee then say you buy a BYOD (bring your own device) kit from t-mobile, straight talk etc, activate the phone with the new carrier (preferably a carrier that currently has a root method that works) then proceed with rooting said device?
Again I'm new to the forum as well as new to the concert of rooting, flashing custom roms etc so please respond in laymens terms
Idk if it could work, I'm just trying to explore any possible solutions to the problem of when android 4.4.4 was released (verizon released theirs with a locked bootloader and if my reseach is correct, there are root processes working for android versions after 4.4.2 on other cell carriers.
So what I'm trying to figure out is if I found a root process that is known to be working on for example (a root process that works on t-mobile, sprint, at&t etc)if I paid to unlock the damn sim and activate the SM-N900V on a cell carrier that so happens to have a working root process, what is the likely hood of it working?
Or
Will it be a complete waste of time, effort, and money to atempt?
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You are confusing 2 different types of "unlocking".
Sim unlocking is not the same as unlocking a bootloader.
The locked bootloader will not be unlocked by Verizon.
The locked bootloader will not allow you to flash a custom kernel or system and prevents the easy rooting methods. Unless someone finds a root method, you will not get root on that device.
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I'm new here but have been following xda for years. I'm not new to rooting or flashing custom roms but after a few days of searching I can't find an answer to the following question.
I have and unlocked Verizon Note 4 n910v running Android 4.4.4 on the Cricket (AT&T) network. If I'm going to install a custom rom, do I need to find a rom for Verizon or for AT&T? Also can anyone clear up the rumor about a locked bootloader on this device? Any help would be awesome!
If you have already unlocked the bootloader on the 910V, I'm not too sure what rumor you are referencing regarding a locked bootloader ::
As far as roms go, it's a Verizon device so you need Verizon roms and firmware.
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I'm new here but have been following xda for years. I'm not new to rooting or flashing custom roms but after a few days of searching I can't find an answer to the following question.
I have and unlocked Verizon Note 4 n910v running Android 4.4.4 on the Cricket (AT&T) network. If I'm going to install a custom rom, do I need to find a rom for Verizon or for AT&T? Also can anyone clear up the rumor about a locked bootloader on this device? Any help would be awesome!
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For ROMs, you must install verizon ROMs because the phone uses verizon-customized hardware.
It is no rumor that this device comes with a locked bootloader. However, thanks to the talented devs here at XDA, there is now an official way to unlock the bootloader; but you have to update to Lollipop 5.1.1 and BPA1 baseband.
I'm using a T-mobile sim in my verizon note 4 without unlocking the bootloader on lollipop and BPA1, so you shouldn't worry about your sim not working after updating. Have fun!
you have a misunderstanding of unlocked. what you are referencing is that you are using the factory unlocked gsm portion of the modem in the verizon model phone. you are NOT bootloader unlocked as you are still on 4.4! if you want to truly unlock it (as in the bootloader) then you will need to upgrade to 5.1.1 (BPA1) via odin. There are several tutorials on how to achieve this, and unlocking (including one that i wrote on the main thread).
to answer your question about using a verizon rom or a t-mobile rom, you can try any snapdragon rom that you would like, but there is NO GUARANTEE that they will work as each developer compiles with or without certain components. what ever you do, do NOT try to flash other carrier (at&t, t-mobile, sprint, etc.) firmware. BIG NO NO! although you claim to have experience with rooting and flashing roms, i would advise you to ALWAYS stick with the carrier variation of whatever device you are working with until you get a better understanding of the different components to a phone i.e. bootloader, modem, rom, etc. xda-university has a nice explanation of these things. so go read up on these things. if you need help, feel free to ask.
Thank you for everyone's advice. Upgrade to lollipop via Odin and bpa1. Got it. As far as custom rom goes, use a Verizon carrier custom rom.
The S4 is still a decent phone in 2016 with it's amoled display, pretty good battery life, and decent performance. But it's a shame that AT&T/Samsung offer nothing for unlocking the bootloader. The last time that I searched, the only option for an SGH-I337 OK2 build was to install Safestrap and a Touchwiz rom. Has anything changed? I tend to use apps from FDroid, and I would really like to run a debloated rom such as Cyanogenmod on this thing (no Samsung/Touchwiz, AT&T, Google). What are the best options today?
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The S4 is still a decent phone in 2016 with it's amoled display, pretty good battery life, and decent performance. But it's a shame that AT&T/Samsung offer nothing for unlocking the bootloader. The last time that I searched, the only option for an SGH-I337 OK2 build was to install Safestrap and a Touchwiz rom. Has anything changed? I tend to use apps from FDroid, and I would really like to run a debloated rom such as Cyanogenmod on this thing (no Samsung/Touchwiz, AT&T, Google). What are the best options today?
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None so far for the locked bootloader, unless you have 2013 bootloader like ADB, MDL.
AT&T intentionally lock the bootloader as such they will not offer any tools or ways to unlock the bootloader. Not just S4 all the AT&T phones has locked bootloader.
With the locked bootloader your option to flash custom rom is via either safestrap ro flashfire.
Regardless of what custom rom you use, you have to flash the AT&T kernel in the end, in order your phone to work.
There might be some AOSP roms flashable with safestrap in Android development section.
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None so far for the locked bootloader, unless you have 2013 bootloader like ADB, MDL.
AT&T intentionally lock the bootloader as such they will not offer any tools or ways to unlock the bootloader. Not just S4 all the AT&T phones has locked bootloader.
With the locked bootloader your option to flash custom rom is via either safestrap ro flashfire.
Regardless of what custom rom you use, you have to flash the AT&T kernel in the end, in order your phone to work.
There might be some AOSP roms flashable with safestrap in Android development section.
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It sounds like it is time to either abandon ship on AT&T, Samsung, or both.
Any recommendations on carriers and devices in the U.S.?
I really like Samsung's amoled displays, and 5.5" is getting too big for portability / everyday use. My HTC One LCD display gives me eyestrain after much use. And it seems to be a problem finding a ~5" amoled device that is both AT&T compatible and allows for unlocking the bootloader.
Ideally, I would like a device that has ~5" amoled display, sd slot, good battery life, removable battery, and can run custom roms on a carrier who doesn't try to be a dictator on what I can run on my own devices.
fitzly said:
It sounds like it is time to either abandon ship on AT&T, Samsung, or both.
Any recommendations on carriers and devices in the U.S.?
I really like Samsung's amoled displays, and 5.5" is getting too big for portability / everyday use. My HTC One LCD display gives me eyestrain after much use. And it seems to be a problem finding a ~5" amoled device that is both AT&T compatible and allows for unlocking the bootloader.
Ideally, I would like a device that has ~5" amoled display, sd slot, good battery life, removable battery, and can run custom roms on a carrier who doesn't try to be a dictator on what I can run on my own devices.
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I think all the samsung phones made for america has locked bootloader. You can check on this forum for which phone can be rooted and which are not.
The other way around should be using the international phones. However, on AT&T network, only the phone make for AT&T can get the LTE signal. I tried with the Asus Zenfone 2. The only way I can get LTE signal in Asus Zenfone 2 is on T-mobile network.
I like the idea of removable battery but in order to make the phone thinner, they all have to go with the I-phone route, non-removable battery.
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None so far for the locked bootloader, unless you have 2013 bootloader like ADB, MDL.
AT&T intentionally lock the bootloader as such they will not offer any tools or ways to unlock the bootloader. Not just S4 all the AT&T phones has locked bootloader.
With the locked bootloader your option to flash custom rom is via either safestrap ro flashfire.
Regardless of what custom rom you use, you have to flash the AT&T kernel in the end, in order your phone to work.
There might be some AOSP roms flashable with safestrap in Android development section.
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There is a new Android AOSP 7.0 Nougat ROM for Galaxy S4 AT&T, but I don't think I would be able to install it because my bootloader is UCUGOK2?
Link: http://www.cyanogenmods.org/forums/topic/update-galaxy-s4-att-nougat-7-0-aosp-rom/
cookiecorn said:
There is a new Android AOSP 7.0 Nougat ROM for Galaxy S4 AT&T, but I don't think I would be able to install it because my bootloader is UCUGOK2?
Link: http://www.cyanogenmods.org/forums/topic/update-galaxy-s4-att-nougat-7-0-aosp-rom/
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Yes they clearly stated that your bootloader has to be exploitable (MDB/MDL). If not that bootloader you can not install custom recovery. Those rom need custom recovery to install on the phone.
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Yes they clearly stated that your bootloader has to be exploitable (MDB/MDL). If not that bootloader you can not install custom recovery. Those rom need custom recovery to install on the phone.
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Thanks Sway.
Is it possible to unlock bootloader UCUGOK2 and change it to UCUAMDB or UCUAMDL?
If so, do you have a link guide?
Thanks again.
There is no way to flash an unlocked bootloader over a locked bootloader or to unlock a locked bootloader at this time.
cookiecorn said:
Thanks Sway.
Is it possible to unlock bootloader UCUGOK2 and change it to UCUAMDB or UCUAMDL?
If so, do you have a link guide?
Thanks again.
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For the ATT-S4 , the answer is no. There is a JTAG service to unbrick the bricked bootloader but there is no posting saying that re-write the bootloader to MDB/MDL.
So far, only the verizon S4 has a way to unlock the bootloader.
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The S4 is still a decent phone in 2016 with it's amoled display, pretty good battery life, and decent performance. But it's a shame that AT&T/Samsung offer nothing for unlocking the bootloader. The last time that I searched, the only option for an SGH-I337 OK2 build was to install Safestrap and a Touchwiz rom. Has anything changed? I tend to use apps from FDroid, and I would really like to run a debloated rom such as Cyanogenmod on this thing (no Samsung/Touchwiz, AT&T, Google). What are the best options today?
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Not possible to run anything other than tw. There are great tw Roms that are debloated making them very light and fast especially when paired up with a custom kernel and the correct settings. Just a got an old s4 from a friend and I decided to revive it from its misery. Now it's snappy and decent battery life.
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I think all the samsung phones made for america has locked bootloader. You can check on this forum for which phone can be rooted and which are not.
The other way around should be using the international phones. However, on AT&T network, only the phone make for AT&T can get the LTE signal. I tried with the Asus Zenfone 2. The only way I can get LTE signal in Asus Zenfone 2 is on T-mobile network.
I like the idea of removable battery but in order to make the phone thinner, they all have to go with the I-phone route, non-removable battery.
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Not all Samsung phones have locked bootloaders in the U.S. Just Verizon and AT&T, unless t-mobile and sprint jumped on the locked bootloader band wagon.
how do you verify if the BL is Locked? Because I managed to root and change modem to mdb and rom to mk2 from much higher version, sim unlocked my att i337, so i just want to check before I load a new rooted rom, from safstrap
Boot into download and confirm that the model # is sgh-i337. Do you see anything about Knox?
You could also boot into the ROM, install the Samsung Info App, and look at the bootloader version.
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Boot into download and confirm that the model # is sgh-i337. Do you see anything about Knox?
You could also boot into the ROM, install the Samsung Info App, and look at the bootloader version.
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I'm in the same unfortunate boat as OP. I downgraded from 5.0.1 / OK2 to 4.4.2 / NB1 and rooted in hopes of installing custom ROMs but now I run into what looks like locked bootloader. When in download mode my details are:
KNOX KERNEL LOCK: 0x0
KNOX WARRANTY VOID: 0x1
what can i get out of this info?
The bootloader is definitely locked and cannot be onlocked. You can use safestrap to flash custom ROMs that are based off a stock TW ROM. You can also root the phone and debloat.
I was really salty about the bootloader being locked when I upgraded from my S3 which I had CM13 rom. Last few months I've been using Thor rom, absolutely solid and I got the Grace UX look on it. I'd recommend it or Lollirom.
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I'm in the same unfortunate boat as OP. I downgraded from 5.0.1 / OK2 to 4.4.2 / NB1 and rooted in hopes of installing custom ROMs but now I run into what looks like locked bootloader. When in download mode my details are:
KNOX KERNEL LOCK: 0x0
KNOX WARRANTY VOID: 0x1
what can i get out of this info?
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Maybe this other thread can point you in the right direction. I tried the Xposed framework portion however, but that part wouldn't work with my AT&T Galaxy S4.
Thread: [GUIDE] AT&T Samsung Galaxy S4 SGH-I337 Lollipop 5.0.1 OK2 Root Xposed Etc.
Keeping my eyes open for other options. Good luck.:good:
Here's the round up as far as AT&T Samsung flagship locked bootloader phones go:
Galaxy S - factory unlocked bootloader
Galaxy S2 - factory unlocked bootloader
Galaxy S3 - factory unlocked bootloader
Galaxy S4 - factory locked bootloader - exploit bypass (loki doki) available if on MDB or MDL firmware.
Galaxy S5 - factory locked bootloader
Galaxy S6 and variants (S6 edge) - factory locked bootloader
Galaxy S7, S7+, and S7 edge - factory locked bootloader
Galaxy S8 and S8+ - factory locked bootloader
The only AT&T phones I know of that can be unlocked bootloader wise are HTC devices as HTC offers a developer program which will unlock it for you. I am not sure about LG, Google, or Motorola devices branded by AT&T.
Hi,
I want to buy a Note 4 and absolutely need root on it. I just found some ugly stuff about rooting it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/help/root-samsung-sm-n910a-5-1-1-build-t3355869
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forgot to tell you the two U.S. carriers that put locks on their bootloaders is AT&T and VERIZON so i wouldnt recommend root unless you unlock bootloader or else your phone will continueously stay in boot mode without letting you exit. that i believe is a bootloop good luck
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Since I can chose which one I buy, I obviously want to get the one that can be rooted. It does not have to be easy, I have used odin in the past, no problem. There are quite a few versions out there though, and I'm a little confused which ones will work. Looks to me like that N910A is out and root pretty much impossible.
I have my eyes on the canada version: N910W8
What about the T-mobile version?
Thanks,
Markus
browny_amiga said:
Hi,
I want to buy a Note 4 and absolutely need root on it. I just found some ugly stuff about rooting it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/help/root-samsung-sm-n910a-5-1-1-build-t3355869
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forgot to tell you the two U.S. carriers that put locks on their bootloaders is AT&T and VERIZON so i wouldnt recommend root unless you unlock bootloader or else your phone will continueously stay in boot mode without letting you exit. that i believe is a bootloop good luck
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Since I can chose which one I buy, I obviously want to get the one that can be rooted. It does not have to be easy, I have used odin in the past, no problem. There are quite a few versions out there though, and I'm a little confused which ones will work. Looks to me like that N910A is out and root pretty much impossible.
I have my eyes on the canada version: N910W8
What about the T-mobile version?
Thanks,
Markus
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AT&T and Verizon should be avoided, otherwise you can just flash super-su via odin.
browny_amiga said:
Hi,
I want to buy a Note 4 and absolutely need root on it. I just found some ugly stuff about rooting it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-att/help/root-samsung-sm-n910a-5-1-1-build-t3355869
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forgot to tell you the two U.S. carriers that put locks on their bootloaders is AT&T and VERIZON so i wouldnt recommend root unless you unlock bootloader or else your phone will continueously stay in boot mode without letting you exit. that i believe is a bootloop good luck
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Since I can chose which one I buy, I obviously want to get the one that can be rooted. It does not have to be easy, I have used odin in the past, no problem. There are quite a few versions out there though, and I'm a little confused which ones will work. Looks to me like that N910A is out and root pretty much impossible.
I have my eyes on the canada version: N910W8
What about the T-mobile version?
Thanks,
Markus
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910t is mod friendly. To root a 910t, you flash Odin and load SuperSU (systemless) as indicated above or flash a permissive kernal and system level root. It is also compatible with att network if that is your carrier. Just need to unlock it.
Thanks guys, that helps, I will go for a 910t then.
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AT&T and Verizon should be avoided, otherwise you can just flash super-su via odin.
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Bit of a noob, but I'm a bit confused. If I buy an "Unlocked" Verizon phone like the SM-N910V, would I be able to use any custom roms?
I was about to buy either the N910V (Verizon) or N910W8 (Verizon/North America)
Can't the Verizon & AT&T be rooted with Chainfire AutoRoot?
joebelachi said:
Bit of a noob, but I'm a bit confused. If I buy an "Unlocked" Verizon phone like the SM-N910V, would I be able to use any custom roms?
I was about to buy either the N910V (Verizon) or N910W8 (Verizon/North America)
Can't the Verizon & AT&T be rooted with Chainfire AutoRoot?
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Only if you buy a developer edition verizon model and last time I checked they were upwards of around $800. Your best bet is W8 or T. I did all the research like you and ended up buying a T and have never been happier
joebelachi said:
Bit of a noob, but I'm a bit confused. If I buy an "Unlocked" Verizon phone like the SM-N910V, would I be able to use any custom roms?
I was about to buy either the N910V (Verizon) or N910W8 (Verizon/North America)
Can't the Verizon & AT&T be rooted with Chainfire AutoRoot?
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(Unlocked means sim unlocked)
Bootloader Unlocked verizon phones can be flashed with a custom rom, and if you get a verizon phone, I suggest a Bootloader unlocked one. Verizon and AT&T phones with locked bootloaders can't be rooted with Chainfire. Chainfire should NOT be used on a phone with a locked bootloader because it flashes partitions and will most likely hard brick your phone. I would still sugest against a Bootloader non-unlocked Verizon or AT&T phone. Also using a custom recovery or odin to flash super-su has worked much better for me with a lot less less risk than Chainfire.
Whatever you decide upon dont get the EDGE. it needs special roms, and it wont work with gear VRs. i have the euro verison, and didnt have any problems rooting. cf-autoroot and done.
Really appreciate the responses guys. Especially for the clarification around Unlocking ("Unlocked means the bootloader").
I'll check out what custom ROMS work on the Verizon (910V).
Are there more ROMS for the 910W8's or the 910V's. Also if I go stock on the W8s, I would have to choose a Canadian carrier.
I'll definitely stay away from the EDGE, didn't really like it anyway
joebelachi said:
Really appreciate the responses guys. Especially for the clarification around Unlocking ("Unlocked means the bootloader").
I'll check out what custom ROMS work on the Verizon (910V).
Are there more ROMS for the 910W8's or the 910V's. Also if I go stock on the W8s, I would have to choose a Canadian carrier.
I'll definitely stay away from the EDGE, didn't really like it anyway
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Careful there, usually 'unlocked' like on Swappa or similar means carrier unlocked, not boot loader unlocked.