Hi Friends,
Hope you're all having a great new year. So last time I was lurking the S7E forums, we had a leaked Engineering Bootloader that was used to acquire root on all US Snapdragon models, albeit, with a lot performance issues and etc.
I came here to glance as well as all other variant forums for the SD model and now we have Root for every model, with even ROMs being baked like the Echo ROM for Verizon, Sprint, AT&T models, usually the toughest to achieve these things on. I'm trying to read through the forums, but I fear I'm missing the details, that will help me pull the trigger for getting the device or not.
Can one of you very experienced, knowledgeable, and kind members educate me on the latest?
1. Do we have unlocked Bootloader and Root for all US carrier S7Es? How is it done? I use people using Flashfire. So no TWRP?
2. Does this process still trip Knox and render Samsung Pay to never be used again on the device?
3. If I bought the Verizon variant, for example, can I root, unlock Bootloader, and etc, and then return to stock, to return to the store in case I don't like the phone?
4. Xposed Framework working for all models?
Much appreciate your responses, any and all of them in advance! Thanks!
ProFragger said:
Hi Friends,
Hope you're all having a great new year. So last time I was lurking the S7E forums, we had a leaked Engineering Bootloader that was used to acquire root on all US Snapdragon models, albeit, with a lot performance issues and etc.
I came here to glance as well as all other variant forums for the SD model and now we have Root for every model, with even ROMs being baked like the Echo ROM for Verizon, Sprint, AT&T models, usually the toughest to achieve these things on. I'm trying to read through the forums, but I fear I'm missing the details, that will help me pull the trigger for getting the device or not.
Can one of you very experienced, knowledgeable, and kind members educate me on the latest?
1. Do we have unlocked Bootloader and Root for all US carrier S7Es? How is it done? I use people using Flashfire. So no TWRP?
2. Does this process still trip Knox and render Samsung Pay to never be used again on the device?
3. If I bought the Verizon variant, for example, can I root, unlock Bootloader, and etc, and then return to stock, to return to the store in case I don't like the phone?
4. Xposed Framework working for all models?
Much appreciate your responses, any and all of them in advance! Thanks!
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1.) https://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-s7-edge/how-to/root-t3410424
2.) No, it doesn't. And flashing back to stock will allow Knox to work again, as long as you didn't flash files from other sources (there are some that will trip Knox, so be careful)
3.) Return To Stock
A: Head on over to @psouza4's post and follow his steps in the return to stock section. The steps are easy and he's posted mostly all the firmware.
4.) Yep. Here's how to do it: https://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-s7-edge/how-to/root-t3410424/post67601958
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1.) https://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-s7-edge/how-to/root-t3410424
2.) No, it doesn't. And flashing back to stock will allow Knox to work again, as long as you didn't flash files from other sources (there are some that will trip Knox, so be careful)
3.) Return To Stock
A: Head on over to @psouza4's post and follow his steps in the return to stock section. The steps are easy and he's posted mostly all the firmware.
4.) Yep. Here's how to do it: https://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-s7-edge/how-to/root-t3410424/post67601958
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Hey bud, thanks for the response! So reading through your helpful post and links, seems like not much has changed, we still are using the ENG Bootloader to do the Root?
If that is the case, three follow up questions:
1. What is the difference and how are the ROMs like Echo and TEK created with built in root? And are we only able to flash them through FlashFire due to the ENG Bootloader? If we have a engineering Bootloader, why not just install TWRP?
2. Because the ENG Bootloader works on all SD variants, does it mean there is no real benefits of buying one variant over another, example, T-Mobile over Verizon, from a Root and development perspective?
3. Last I checked, we had a ton of issues with the ENG Bootloader... Lagginess, battery issues, lack of optimizations and no updates... Have these been solved? If so, how?
Thank you again and thanks to everyone else who may help too!
ProFragger said:
Hey bud, thanks for the response! So reading through your helpful post and links, seems like not much has changed, we still are using the ENG Bootloader to do the Root?
If that is the case, three follow up questions:
1. What is the difference and how are the ROMs like Echo and TEK created with built in root? And are we only able to flash them through FlashFire due to the ENG Bootloader? If we have a engineering Bootloader, why not just install TWRP?
2. Because the ENG Bootloader works on all SD variants, does it mean there is no real benefits of buying one variant over another, example, T-Mobile over Verizon, from a Root and development perspective?
3. Last I checked, we had a ton of issues with the ENG Bootloader... Lagginess, battery issues, lack of optimizations and no updates... Have these been solved? If so, how?
Thank you again and thanks to everyone else who may help too!
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It's an eng kernel that is flashed so the bootloader remains untouched. The reason for the eng kernel is reg s7 kernels don't support root. As for the performance issues and battery drain most of the performance is taken care of with a few apps like lspeed. The battery drain is still rather heavy even using amplify and greenify the screen on time is still pretty poor the stand by drain is mostly taken care off tho.
vegoja said:
It's an eng kernel that is flashed so the bootloader remains untouched. The reason for the eng kernel is reg s7 kernels don't support root. As for the performance issues and battery drain most of the performance is taken care of with a few apps like lspeed. The battery drain is still rather heavy even using amplify and greenify the screen on time is still pretty poor the stand by drain is mostly taken care off tho.
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Sorry, you're right Sir, the Eng kernel. Hmm... seems like still a pretty clunky solution for us Root (junkies?)
I just got excited when I saw the Echo ROM and people flashing through FlashFire. Also, I thought the U Firmware also allowed for some more flexibility? Basically allowing for any variant available to be used on any carrier and helped the Rooting case too?
Thanks again!
ProFragger said:
Sorry, you're right Sir, the Eng kernel. Hmm... seems like still a pretty clunky solution for us Root (junkies?)
I just got excited when I saw the Echo ROM and people flashing through FlashFire. Also, I thought the U Firmware also allowed for some more flexibility? Basically allowing for any variant available to be used on any carrier and helped the Rooting case too?
Thanks again!
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The U firmware has no very little bloat and has be used for the echoe rom for sprint carrier. It's a fairly long process to get echoe on sprint. But yeah I use the U firmware and I'm rooted on the latest firmware. It's a bit more of a pain to root the pl3 but I can't downgrade my Bootloader to an easier firmware. And your welcome it's np at all
vegoja said:
The U firmware has no very little bloat and has be used for the echoe rom for sprint carrier. It's a fairly long process to get echoe on sprint. But yeah I use the U firmware and I'm rooted on the latest firmware. It's a bit more of a pain to root the pl3 but I can't downgrade my Bootloader to an easier firmware. And your welcome it's np at all
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How do you get root on PI3
badapple420 said:
How do you get root on PI3
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Disable all these packages before flashing the eng kernel. And make sure to set ur apns after root u won't be able to see them but u can edit it still.
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Hey guys!
Im a noob when it comes to installing ROMs and crap like that into phones (never done it), so even after looking at alot of threads about lollipop on s4 im wondering. Is it worth the time and effort i need to go through to get it because im running an unlocked version so i cant get updates from at&t. Chances of bricking? Oh and i was wondering do i need a sd card to do all of this? Can i do this from my phones internal storage?
Many thanks in advance.
TheJuli said:
Hey guys!
Im a noob when it comes to installing ROMs and crap like that into phones (never done it), so even after looking at alot of threads about lollipop on s4 im wondering. Is it worth the time and effort i need to go through to get it because im running an unlocked version so i cant get updates from at&t. Chances of bricking? Oh and i was wondering do i need a sd card to do all of this? Can i do this from my phones internal storage?
Many thanks in advance.
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What system version are you currently on? Check your baseband in the About section of your settings. Depending on which it is, the process is different, but you can do it from internal storage either way.
DeadlySin9 said:
What system version are you currently on? Check your baseband in the About section of your settings. Depending on which it is, the process is different, but you can do it from internal storage either way.
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Im on 4.4.2 1337UCUFNB1 atm and rooted using towelroot.
Still, is lollipop worth the effort to update from this?
If yes how do i go on about doing it so the chances of bricking are low? (I just got the phone and paranoid )
The tutorials ive seen gave some terminology im not up to par with it :/
Thank you for the help!
Is anyone there willing to help?
Pliz.
TheJuli said:
Im on 4.4.2 1337UCUFNB1 atm and rooted using towelroot.
Still, is lollipop worth the effort to update from this?
If yes how do i go on about doing it so the chances of bricking are low? (I just got the phone and paranoid )
The tutorials ive seen gave some terminology im not up to par with it :/
Thank you for the help!
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It's mostly personal preference, but if you're already rooted then it's not very difficult to do. If you want to just use stock Lollipop with root it's as simple as install Safestrap, flash the OC4 ROM, and flash the kernel. I can get you links for that if you want. If you want a custom ROM, you'll have to also flash the SuperSU Beta file and the correct modules for either the OC3 or OC4 kernel, which isn't difficult. I can get you links if you want to go ahead with either of those, if you want a custom ROM though you'll have to pick one out yourself.
DeadlySin9 said:
It's mostly personal preference, but if you're already rooted then it's not very difficult to do. If you want to just use stock Lollipop with root it's as simple as install Safestrap, flash the OC4 ROM, and flash the kernel. I can get you links for that if you want. If you want a custom ROM, you'll have to also flash the SuperSU Beta file and the correct modules for either the OC3 or OC4 kernel, which isn't difficult. I can get you links if you want to go ahead with either of those, if you want a custom ROM though you'll have to pick one out yourself.
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The stock lollipop please or just any lollipop that won't give me trouble like camera or bluetooth not working! So how do i do all what you mentioned there? Thanks a ton btw!
DeadlySin9 said:
It's mostly personal preference, but if you're already rooted then it's not very difficult to do. If you want to just use stock Lollipop with root it's as simple as install Safestrap, flash the OC4 ROM, and flash the kernel. I can get you links for that if you want. If you want a custom ROM, you'll have to also flash the SuperSU Beta file and the correct modules for either the OC3 or OC4 kernel, which isn't difficult. I can get you links if you want to go ahead with either of those, if you want a custom ROM though you'll have to pick one out yourself.
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I ran into this => http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-to-update-to-i337oc3-5-0-1-keeproot-t3075814
Will it do the job for me? Seems easier than what you described - But i still dont get step number 7. How do i do that Odin's PDA/AP thing?
If you dont wanna be bothered with what i just asked, continue with your own method, if its safer.
Sooo, umm anyone else there in the community, knows how to do this and walk me through?
Pliz.
TheJuli said:
I ran into this => http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...-to-update-to-i337oc3-5-0-1-keeproot-t3075814
Will it do the job for me? Seems easier than what you described - But i still dont get step number 7. How do i do that Odin's PDA/AP thing?
If you dont wanna be bothered with what i just asked, continue with your own method, if its safer.
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TheJuli said:
Sooo, umm anyone else there in the community, knows how to do this and walk me through?
Pliz.
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muniz_ri's thread that you linked is the preferred method for someone in your situation to accomplish what you want to do. The instructions are all there. Read through the instructions several times until it makes sense to you. If there is something you don't understand, ask specific questions. It is better (for you) if we don't hold your hand and walk you through everything, because you will learn more if you do it yourself.
Regarding: "Is it worth it?"
It's personal preference. I find the ui improvements in 5.0.1 not great...they are minor or in some cases they seem like down grades.
But I do find the phone noticeably snappier and faster in most tasks. I've had no glitches or fc in the week since I upgraded (I think most of the people complaining about problems about 5.0.1 took the ota without doing a reset) And you'll have the latest security updates also.
If you do upgrade, you have choice of odexed stock or deodexed stock. I'd recommend deodexed if you think you might want to use xposed in the future.
Installed it
In my experience 5.0.1, with its huge constant 1GB Ram usage (without apps or bloatware running and grenify too), was pretty meh. The design of things looks good and all but i personaly think that kitkat did it better RAM wise (Constantly on 500MB), and for that reason, I switched back. I did not experince any snappier or faster performance but i would say it was the same. All in all, if you want flashy and a good looking android phone without loss of performance, but only 800MB free RAM, go for it.
The only thing i learnt from all of this was, how android stuff actually works. So much searching of things lead me to learning more and more. Never had i ever used odin or flashed any firmware. This whole proccess went with some fright within me, but as long as you follow the steps correctly, there is nothing you should be afraid of.
I have a verizon edge model sm-g935v....build # g9325vvru4ap13.
I see everyone talking about the 935u firmware. Is an update for my "V" or is it firmware for another edge model (and i shouldn't be concerned about it)?
935v is the Verizon version and the 935u is the unlocked version.
935v comes with all the bloat ware from stock Verizon, while the 935u comes with no bloat but you might have to do some configurations (apn,mms,etc...) for it to work with Verizon.
Hope that helps ya.
Ps: installing 935u won't unlock your phone (sadly)
Zixx said:
935v is the Verizon version and the 935u is the unlocked version.
935v comes with all the bloat ware from stock Verizon, while the 935u comes with no bloat but you might have to do some configurations (apn,mms,etc...) for it to work with Verizon.
Hope that helps ya.
Ps: installing 935u won't unlock your phone (sadly)
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Many thanks! I see now....just one more question:
I now have:
model # - SM-G935V
Android verzion - 6.0.1
baseband version - G935VVRU4AP13
build # - MMB29M.G935VVRU4AP13
I've accepted the OTA update when I got my phone last week.
So i assume I need to use this root guide...Verizon Root Guide (Knox still good)Verizon Root Guide (Knox still good).....http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-s7-edge/how-to/verizon-root-knox-t3410624?
instead of using this one......
{GUIDE} Flashing the SM-935U firmware onto your Verizon S7 Edge and Rooting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/veri...1#post67674771
I can also flash the U firmware sometime in the future once i've rooted the V firmware?
you can flash either and root both. I have the same phone as you with same base band ect. I first tried the root method for the 935v and had bad battery issues so i switched and flashed the 935u and ran it stock for 3 weeks with no changes and had no issues loved the no Verizon crap, the phone ran nice. I just rooted the 935u today using stang5litre edition 5.0 ver2 and so far it is running smooth with no issues. testing out the battery life now. It is up to you what you want to flash. they both do the same thing as far as root. however I had lot of issues with the basic root 935v... I like the stang5litre v2 its all set up and don't have to tweak anything.... so far...
I would stay away from the "U" firmware until you familiarize with the terms and root.
And well in theory both of the guides are good to follow, since the only thing you are doing is flashing the eng-kernel.
Now before you go on, what's the purpose of you rooting?
Flashing another Rom?
Have stock, but modified Rom?
Zixx said:
I would stay away from the "U" firmware until you familiarize with the terms and root.
And well in theory both of the guides are good to follow, since the only thing you are doing is flashing the eng-kernel.
Now before you go on, what's the purpose of you rooting?
Flashing another Rom?
Have stock, but modified Rom?
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flashing another rom to get the additional benefits.
btw....i've rooted my last 4 galaxy phones, so i'm familiar with the terms, etc. it's just that this rooting is different than the past techniques. thanks for your help.
Justin.ice said:
you can flash either and root both. I have the same phone as you with same base band ect. I first tried the root method for the 935v and had bad battery issues so i switched and flashed the 935u and ran it stock for 3 weeks with no changes and had no issues loved the no Verizon crap, the phone ran nice. I just rooted the 935u today using stang5litre edition 5.0 ver2 and so far it is running smooth with no issues. testing out the battery life now. It is up to you what you want to flash. they both do the same thing as far as root. however I had lot of issues with the basic root 935v... I like the stang5litre v2 its all set up and don't have to tweak anything.... so far...
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Thanks a ton, Justin.ice!
I see that we no longer have TWRP. HOw do i make a nandroid backup?
Also, is there a way to backup the app installs i've done while my phone is stock? then, once i get root/install rom, I can just restore them?
chumboy said:
flashing another rom to get the additional benefits.
btw....i've rooted my last 4 galaxy phones, so i'm familiar with the terms, etc. it's just that this rooting is different than the past techniques. thanks for your help.
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Yeah, S7e is a bit different.
chumboy said:
Thanks a ton, Justin.ice!
I see that we no longer have TWRP. HOw do i make a nandroid backup?
Also, is there a way to backup the app installs i've done while my phone is stock? then, once i get root/install rom, I can just restore them?
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Sadly no Nandroid Backups but, once rooted you can use titanium backup for the backing then again for restoring once in the new rom.
Im using titanium for my backup and my google account has my apps as well if I have to go back to stock.
Are there any performance benefits to the u vs. V version??
conrad2123 said:
Are there any performance benefits to the u vs. V version??
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Removed verizon bloat ware. Other then that there the same.
Justin.ice said:
Removed verizon bloat ware. Other then that there the same.
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OK. That is what I thought. Thanks.
Is the diagnostic mode is available on the U firmware?
###366633# or ##3424#?
Could someone please try..
chumboy said:
Thanks a ton, Justin.ice!
I see that we no longer have TWRP. HOw do i make a nandroid backup?
Also, is there a way to backup the app installs i've done while my phone is stock? then, once i get root/install rom, I can just restore them?
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No real way to do a nandroid backup. You can backup all your partitions with FlashFire, but the problem is if you brick your phone you can't get to FlashFire to do a restore.
conrad2123 said:
Are there any performance benefits to the u vs. V version??
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In theory the U version should be slightly more snappy since it comes without the bloat and therefore unnecessary running processes, but Android's baked-in OOM handling is fine and the bloat has minimal impact if any. I've seen some people say they've had less root-related problems with the U, but otherwise there's not much of a difference.
Justin.ice said:
you can flash either and root both. I have the same phone as you with same base band ect. I first tried the root method for the 935v and had bad battery issues so i switched and flashed the 935u and ran it stock for 3 weeks with no changes and had no issues loved the no Verizon crap, the phone ran nice. I just rooted the 935u today using stang5litre edition 5.0 ver2 and so far it is running smooth with no issues. testing out the battery life now. It is up to you what you want to flash. they both do the same thing as far as root. however I had lot of issues with the basic root 935v... I like the stang5litre v2 its all set up and don't have to tweak anything.... so far...
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So you flashed the U firmware following the guide posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...de-flashing-sm-935u-firmware-verizon-t3415145
Then you flashes stang5litre and all was good for you?
I want to do the same to my phone once it comes in the mail I just want to be sure. I also plan on using it on Cricket so I hope that works too.
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So you flashed the U firmware following the guide posted here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...de-flashing-sm-935u-firmware-verizon-t3415145
Then you flashes stang5litre and all was good for you?
I want to do the same to my phone once it comes in the mail I just want to be sure. I also plan on using it on Cricket so I hope that works too.
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Yep, everything went good and installed on first try. I played around with colors and apps...the link issue I had I think was with the xda app. Other then that. The battery was almost stock. System ran nice with no lagging.
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Yep, everything went good and installed on first try. I played around with colors and apps...the link issue I had I think was with the xda app. Other then that. The battery was almost stock. System ran nice with no lagging.
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Awesome. You give me hope lol. I don't suppose you know if the U firmware unlocks all the LTE bands so I have flawless connectivity with Cricket would you? Also after you flash Stang5litre did you still have fully working root? Cheers mate
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Awesome. You give me hope lol. I don't suppose you know if the U firmware unlocks all the LTE bands so I have flawless connectivity with Cricket would you? Also after you flash Stang5litre did you still have fully working root? Cheers mate
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Not sure on the band's, I think I seen something about it that it had all the bands... as for root with stang5litre yes it has root and everything is baked in the rom.
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Not sure on the band's, I think I seen something about it that it had all the bands... as for root with stang5litre yes it has root and everything is baked in the rom.
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Beautiful. Thanks for your replies mate. You give me hope with this phone lol. I had a Sprint S7 Edge that I traded off of Craiglist and it was a NIGHTMARE to unlock it not to mention there is no dev support for it.
Sold it and got a sweet deal on a brand new Verizon S7 Edge. I sure hope all goes well with flashing.
935V/U Dev
blackra1n said:
Beautiful. Thanks for your replies mate. You give me hope with this phone lol. I had a Sprint S7 Edge that I traded off of Craiglist and it was a NIGHTMARE to unlock it not to mention there is no dev support for it.
Sold it and got a sweet deal on a brand new Verizon S7 Edge. I sure hope all goes well with flashing.
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You gonna be developing for the s7e?? I'm familiar with some of your roms been a few yours, maybe on a moto??? Anyways, hope you're doing something for this....
Hey guys, I have been out of the android world for a couple of years, I would appreciate some guidance.
I I'm currently living in US
T-mobil
Model number: SM-G935T
Android version: 6.0.1
Updated right now
So my question is, since I don't have any backup or anything, can someone provide me with the steps to get me started? Like what post to root it on this specific carrier and how everything? please
Thanks
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Hey guys, I have been out of the android world for a couple of years, I would appreciate some guidance.
I I'm currently living in US
T-mobil
Model number: SM-G935T
Android version: 6.0.1
Updated right now
So my question is, since I don't have any backup or anything, can someone provide me with the steps to get me started? Like what post to root it on this specific carrier and how everything? please
Thanks
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Of course we can get your started but see
But first you must answer us these question three.
Why do you want root?
Do you have a computer? (This is a must for root.)
Are you ready to be disappointed?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/how-to/how-to-root-s7-edge-t3410470
follow this (use odin to flash rooted kernel) ......you should search before posting things like this.....google is your friend bro.
GOOD LUCK - BTW use flash fire app in play store to make backups and flash roms
Okay okay.
A quick glance at T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge Guides, News, & Discussion would have led you to the "How to root the S7 EDGE" thread.
I'd take a look in there if I were you.
Binary100100 said:
Of course we can get your started but see
But first you must answer us these question three.
Why do you want root?
Do you have a computer? (This is a must for root.)
Are you ready to be disappointed?
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Well while I was waiting I just rooted it. So what do you think that would be the next step towards installing a rom? To answer your survey questions :laugh: :
1- Because a phone without being rooted is like a bird without wins.
2- I do
3- Oh well... tell me more
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Well while I was waiting I just rooted it. So what do you think that would be the next step towards installing a rom? To answer your survey questions :laugh: :
1- Because a phone without being rooted is like a bird without wins.
2- I do
3- Oh well... tell me more
EDIT: I just checked and the root didn't go through... even though ODIN said it was successful
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Well then.
Rooting the phone (as I'm sure you had already found out) was fairly easy.
BUT... since we do not have an unlocked bootloader then we cannot have any custom recovery. Which means we can only (for now) use adb and Fireflash to flash any custom firmwares. And while we're on the subject of that... there is only one custom rom. Well... technically there are two but only one for you since you updated to the latest firmware.
Echoe ROM which was updated (ummm...) September 9th (not including the Verizon version which might work but with no promises)
Tekxv2 which was updated back in July. Unfortunately, that is flashed by adb (computer required) and only supports G935TUVS3APD8 which is... pretty old.
Things that you may notice with root.
Battery life may be shorter.
Strange icons on your status bar.
Might start to have random reboots for absolutely no reason.
Can't use Samsung Pay and some other apps.
Phone might be laggy.
Phone might feel hot.
Some of those can be resolved by flashing the only custom rom that we have (Echoe ROM... which is a rather nice rom) but it's not "there" yet.
Or you can use the guide in my signature to resolve issues like the lag and the strange icons. Yet even after the "fix" you might still experience both again from time to time.
You might even have the IMS force close issue which I used to get about once a month. It would piss me off because no sooner that you click the button, it'll pop up again and you don't have time to do anything. You're pretty much forced to reflash stock, wipe, re-root, restore a latest backup... which can take hours and is rather inconvenient if it happens to you while you're at work like it always seemed to happen for me.
SO...
All in all... root is okay. It's better than nothing I suppose. But until we get more developer support for this phone then in my opinion it's kinda pointless in my opinion.
Too many drawbacks. I eventually unrooted two weeks ago and I love my phone now. I'm using the heck out of Samsung Pay especially since their promotions are pretty nice right now! Plus a few members are testing the Nouget update which probably won't be getting root at all since rooting requires an engineering kernel which we don't have and might not get. Or an unlocked bootloader which we've pretty much given up on.
A lot of members that are testing the Nouget beta firmware are extremely satisfied with it so if we can't root Nouget then having a rooted S7 will probably fade away as more people update to Android 7+. That's where I see this going anyway.
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What you wrote above
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So for what I understood the dev support for this phone is very limited... I know the issues I may encounter, I had them with the galaxy note. but any way... If something I'll unroot it but I want to try it out Thank for you time. I've rooted it.
EDIT: Damn... I really don't like the visual style of Echoe... is that one the only one I can flash??
Binary100100 said:
Well then.
Rooting the phone (as I'm sure you had already found out) was fairly easy.
BUT... since we do not have an unlocked bootloader then we cannot have any custom recovery. Which means we can only (for now) use adb and Fireflash to flash any custom firmwares. And while we're on the subject of that... there is only one custom rom. Well... technically there are two but only one for you since you updated to the latest firmware.
Echoe ROM which was updated (ummm...) September 9th (not including the Verizon version which might work but with no promises)
Tekxv2 which was updated back in July. Unfortunately, that is flashed by adb (computer required) and only supports G935TUVS3APD8 which is... pretty old.
Things that you may notice with root.
Battery life may be shorter.
Strange icons on your status bar.
Might start to have random reboots for absolutely no reason.
Can't use Samsung Pay and some other apps.
Phone might be laggy.
Phone might feel hot.
Some of those can be resolved by flashing the only custom rom that we have (Echoe ROM... which is a rather nice rom) but it's not "there" yet.
Or you can use the guide in my signature to resolve issues like the lag and the strange icons. Yet even after the "fix" you might still experience both again from time to time.
You might even have the IMS force close issue which I used to get about once a month. It would piss me off because no sooner that you click the button, it'll pop up again and you don't have time to do anything. You're pretty much forced to reflash stock, wipe, re-root, restore a latest backup... which can take hours and is rather inconvenient if it happens to you while you're at work like it always seemed to happen for me.
SO...
All in all... root is okay. It's better than nothing I suppose. But until we get more developer support for this phone then in my opinion it's kinda pointless in my opinion.
Too many drawbacks. I eventually unrooted two weeks ago and I love my phone now. I'm using the heck out of Samsung Pay especially since their promotions are pretty nice right now! Plus a few members are testing the Nouget update which probably won't be getting root at all since rooting requires an engineering kernel which we don't have and might not get. Or an unlocked bootloader which we've pretty much given up on.
A lot of members that are testing the Nouget beta firmware are extremely satisfied with it so if we can't root Nouget then having a rooted S7 will probably fade away as more people update to Android 7+. That's where I see this going anyway.
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How are you doing with the ads? Like youtube, pandora, spotify? I just installed xposed and the phone feels very hot, and If I unroot it (which I'm thinking to do) I won't be able to get things without ads (I know about vpns and browsers). Also how can I install teaks for apps? Installing apks from pages that promise you this and you have to log in is very untruthful. Any suggestions to all this?
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How are you doing with the ads? Like youtube, pandora, spotify? I just installed xposed and the phone feels very hot, and If I unroot it (which I'm thinking to do) I won't be able to get things without ads (I know about vpns and browsers). Also how can I install teaks for apps? Installing apks from pages that promise you this and you have to log in is very untruthful. Any suggestions to all this?
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I just put up with them.
In all reality, I don't use my phone for the purposes that require my viewing of ads to begin with.
Sure when I was rooted I had adblocker. But honestly, I had completely forgotten all about that benefit of being rooted until now.
I suppose if you absolutely need to be rid of ads then by all means, retain root. However ads don't effect my daily use one bit.
Binary100100 said:
I just put up with them.
In all reality, I don't use my phone for the purposes that require my viewing of ads to begin with.
Sure when I was rooted I had adblocker. But honestly, I had completely forgotten all about that benefit of being rooted until now.
I suppose if you absolutely need to be rid of ads then by all means, retain root. However ads don't effect my daily use one bit.
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Could you help me unroot it? I was following a guide here to unroot it and downloaded the firmware but when I click flash, it didn't work, I'm having travel reverting it, can you help me? The model is: SM-G935T
Arturofm2 said:
Could you help me unroot it? I was following a guide here to unroot it and downloaded the firmware but when I click flash, it didn't work, I'm having travel reverting it, can you help me? The model is: SM-G935T
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I just flash the appropriate firmware that you had prior to rooting with ODIN.
Never had any issues. Which "guide" are you referring to?
Binary100100 said:
I just flash the appropriate firmware that you had prior to rooting with ODIN.
Never had any issues. Which "guide" are you referring to?
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bro now I'm friking out, I followed this guide and when I click in flash it says Fail. I followed it step by step, I don't don't what's going on and when I reset the phone it says custom and doesn't even load, so tmobil would know that I rooted it...
fff.... can you give me the link, guide, whatever you used to revert it?
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bro now I'm friking out, I followed this guide and when I click in flash it says Fail. I followed it step by step, I don't don't what's going on and when I reset the phone it says custom and doesn't even load, so tmobil would know that I rooted it...
fff.... can you give me the link, guide, whatever you used to revert it?
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You're probably trying to flash a firmware with a V3 bootloader over G935TTMB4APK1.
If you were seriously following that (outdated) guide step by step then you tried flashing TMB_G935TUVU3APG1.zip over a PK1 firmware. Yeah... that doesn't work.
Download the latest firmware from sammmobile.
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-G935T/
Try it again.
IF that doesn't work... try using Smart Switch.
I haven't done it before but I think it's the Emergency Software Recovery and Initialization.
forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/how-to/odin-apk1-tmobile-tmbg935ttmb4apk1-t3494724
Odin this to return to stock firmware.
Binary100100 said:
You're probably trying to flash a firmware with a V3 bootloader over G935TTMB4APK1.
If you were seriously following that (outdated) guide step by step then you tried flashing TMB_G935TUVU3APG1.zip over a PK1 firmware. Yeah... that doesn't work.
Download the latest firmware from sammobile.
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-G935T/
Try it again.
IF that doesn't work... try using Smart Switch.
I haven't done it before but I think it's the Emergency Software Recovery and Initialization.
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You have no idea the help you gave me. I went to sammobil before but since it said that the download speed was too slow, I didn't do it through that page. Now I did it and it's working fine thanks bro.
But when I start it, it says: custom in the log in, how can I totally put it original?
tduquefjc said:
forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-s7-edge/how-to/odin-apk1-tmobile-tmbg935ttmb4apk1-t3494724
Odin this to return to stock firmware.
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If I want to remove everything and just leave it plain how it comes from factory when you buy it, do I just flash the AP file?
Arturofm2 said:
You have no idea the help you gave me. I went to sammobil before but since it said that the download speed was too slow, I kept it. Now I did it and it's working fine thanks bro.
But when I start it, it says: custom in the log in, how can I totally put it original?
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If I want to remove everything and just leave it plain how it comes from factory when you buy it, do I just flash the AP file?
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You should flash everything.
BL= Bootloader (which should be V4 since you updated to the latest firmware already. Anything less than V4 will fail.)
AP= Is for System, Cache, kernel, etc.
CP= Is for modems
CSC is for your HOME_CSC_TMB_G935TTMB4APK1_CL9507190_QB11413830_REV02_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 file.
Important! If you use the CSC_TMB_G935TTMB4APK1_CL9507190_QB11413830_REV02_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 (doesn't have the word "HOME" in the name) then it'll wipe your phone!
If your phone still says "CUSTOM" on it then make sure that reboot and check again. If it still says custom then make sure that you don't still have the engineering kernel. Re-flash the AP files again if so. It shouldn't though if it's 100% stock. Also note if you saw the unlocked padlock on the S7 Edge splash screen (before the bootanimation).
Good luck and happy New Year.
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You should flash everything.
BL= Bootloader (which should be V4 since you updated to the latest firmware already. Anything less than V4 will fail.)
AP= Is for System, Cache, kernel, etc.
CP= Is for modems
CSC is for your HOME_CSC_TMB_G935TTMB4APK1_CL9507190_QB11413830_REV02_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 file.
Important! If you use the CSC_TMB_G935TTMB4APK1_CL9507190_QB11413830_REV02_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 (doesn't have the word "HOME" in the name) then it'll wipe your phone!
If your phone still says "CUSTOM" on it then make sure that reboot and check again. If it still says custom then make sure that you don't still have the engineering kernel. Re-flash the AP files again if so. It shouldn't though if it's 100% stock. Also note if you saw the unlocked padlock on the S7 Edge splash screen (before the bootanimation).
Good luck and happy New Year.
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Perfect! All I did was reboot it, and the unlocked padlock went away, thank you very much for all your help! Happy new year!
Hey guys,
Long time Apple using coming back from the dark side. I picked an S7 Edge on 7.0, G935V, G935VVRU4BQG1 baseband. It's been awhile since I have rooted anything, but was wondering if I will be able to root this. Any help or input would be appreciated. Thank you for your time.
0ZARK3 said:
Hey guys,
Long time Apple using coming back from the dark side. I picked an S7 Edge on 7.0, G935V, G935VVRU4BQG1 baseband. It's been awhile since I have rooted anything, but was wondering if I will be able to root this. Any help or input would be appreciated. Thank you for your time.
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The short answer is yes.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tm...w-rooted-nougat-s7-edge-g935t-t3567502/page69
It's a long, somewhat confusing thread. Basically you want to get the eng boot image for Nougat and flash it on top of a clean install. You need the modified version of Odin and there's several different root.bat folders to pick from with different tweaks and supersu versions. Any of them can be run through adb.
But it needs the eng boot img. It's not meant for daily use. Many others will swear it runs "lag free". Yet most of us eventually surrender and go back to stock. If you'd rather remain on stock this thread might be useful...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum....-edge/how-to/root-modifications-t3339094/amp/
KLit75 said:
The short answer is yes.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/tm...w-rooted-nougat-s7-edge-g935t-t3567502/page69
It's a long, somewhat confusing thread. Basically you want to get the eng boot image for Nougat and flash it on top of a clean install. You need the modified version of Odin and there's several different root.bat folders to pick from with different tweaks and supersu versions. Any of them can be run through adb.
But it needs the eng boot img. It's not meant for daily use. Many others will swear it runs "lag free". Yet most of us eventually surrender and go back to stock. If you'd rather remain on stock this thread might be useful...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/forum....-edge/how-to/root-modifications-t3339094/amp/
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THANK YOU! I was tempted to root but it seems like it's just not worth the headache, I probably won't be holding onto the phone for too long anyways. I will use the no root mods in that thread.
Hello Everyone. I'm new to this forum, so please be kind. I have searched extensively for the answer to my question.
So, I spent a whole day upgrading and rooting my SM-G900V Galaxy S5. Lots of dead ends on this, but I got it! I did this because I needed more room on my internal memory. I was almost out, so I used Titanium Backup and uninstalled all the bloat apps.
My question is this. I am now at Lollipop V5.0 rooted. I would like to upgrade to Marshmallow 6.0.1. If I do this with a custom ROM:
1) Will all the bloat I just deleted all come back? Are these apps part of the custom ROM?
2) Will I lose the root? If the bloat stays off, I really don't care as that was my only reason for rooting in the first place.
I used XDA forums pretty extensively for information for getting as far as I have. Many, many thanks.
Dave
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Hello Everyone. I'm new to this forum, so please be kind. I have searched extensively for the answer to my question.
So, I spent a whole day upgrading and rooting my SM-G900V Galaxy S5. Lots of dead ends on this, but I got it! I did this because I needed more room on my internal memory. I was almost out, so I used Titanium Backup and uninstalled all the bloat apps.
My question is this. I am now at Lollipop V5.0 rooted. I would like to upgrade to Marshmallow 6.0.1. If I do this with a custom ROM:
1) Will all the bloat I just deleted all come back? Are these apps part of the custom ROM?
2) Will I lose the root? If the bloat stays off, I really don't care as that was my only reason for rooting in the first place.
I used XDA forums pretty extensively for information for getting as far as I have. Many, many thanks.
Dave
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If your looking to upgrade to MM 6.0. You need to download the latest MM stock image and Odin back to full unrooted stock. Then re-root, install your custom recovery and flash what ever rom you want.. Yes if you flash back to stock MM in order to upgrade, then naturally all the bloat will come back.. But will not be there once you re-root and flash another rom.
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My question is this. I am now at Lollipop V5.0 rooted. I would like to upgrade to Marshmallow 6.0.1. If I do this with a custom ROM:
1) Will all the bloat I just deleted all come back? Are these apps part of the custom ROM?
2) Will I lose the root? If the bloat stays off, I really don't care as that was my only reason for rooting in the first place.
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1. Depends on the ROM. BTW, "free user space" does not depend on the ROM. Almost does not.
2. Yes. You will have to reroot it, if possible.
There is a good G900V section on the forum and you may like to read about CID, locked bootloader and MM rooting there.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...al/guide-painiacs-essential-guide-to-t3319848
bbsc said:
1. Depends on the ROM. BTW, "free user space" does not depend on the ROM. Almost does not.
2. Yes. You will have to reroot it, if possible.
There is a good G900V section on the forum and you may like to read about CID, locked bootloader and MM rooting there.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...al/guide-painiacs-essential-guide-to-t3319848
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Thank you for the reply, information, and link. I will go through it. I hadn't been able to find a MM rooting system that worked which is why I reverted to Lollipop. I actually had a lot of trouble even rooting 5.0 as nothing worked until I came upon the Blackcat scripts. That worked great.
Dave
DaveInTrinity said:
I hadn't been able to find a MM rooting system that worked which is why I reverted to Lollipop. I actually had a lot of trouble even rooting 5.0 as nothing worked until I came upon the Blackcat scripts. That worked great.
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You're welcome.
Look, LP and below does not require unlocked bootloader to be rooted. MM and abode does. That's why the possibility of rooting MM on your phone depends on it's hardware (CID).
Blackcat's scripts are great, but the modern method is to flash a "COMBINATION" ROM which can be rooted easily, to root it, to install SafeStrap Recovery and then to flash your favorite ROM (system partition) and firmware (bootloader, kernel, modem, recovery). The last action may contain bootloader unlocking process if the hardware is compatible.