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Hi there,
Just been thinking about picking one of these up.Played with it abit in my local network providers shop and Im impressed.
But my question is regarding the dual sim mode.
My network provider here in Ireland says that the phone is single sim only ,that they don't supply dual sim versions in Europe.
Now what Im wondering is if the actual hardware is the same and that a rom could be flashed similar to the P8 lite to enable dual sim mode?
Also the second sim tray doesn't seem to be physically able to take a second sim.
Is it possible that providers in Europe are
1. Only selling single sim versions if such a thing exists.
2.Selling dual sim versions with the software for dual sim disabled and a different sim tray?
Thanks for any help.
Richie
In my understanding P8 lite single sim is the same thing as P8 lite dual sim but with dual sim support disabled within software. IE same hardware.
As per regular P8, dual sim and single sim phones actually have different hardware, like GRAL09 (single sim) has single radio module while GRA UL00 (dual sim) has 2. In short: you can't make regular single sim P8 a dual sim phone via software or hardware tweak.
Here in belgium you can order a dual sim.
Vandenborre is selling onlie and it is the dual sim.
Coolblue is selling single sim.
geert000 said:
Here in belgium you can order a dual sim.
Vandenborre is selling onlie and it is the dual sim.
Coolblue is selling single sim.
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It seems not. I moved to Brussels since end of May and I wanted to buy the dual sim P8 from here. FNAC and Vanden Borre sell only single sims. I bought the single sim after all via Amazon.fr in June as at that time they had the best price. Now they all sell it around 500 EUR free of contract.
The dual sim model you will find only on ebay from China or HK. I needed to change my phone so I had no option to wait 2 to 4 weeks for being delivered from there.
Sorry, my mistake, i was talking about P8 lite
I ordered now P8 Dual Sim version with 64GB memory in Switzerland in Digitec online shop (599 CHF).
Hi! jaocagomez here.
i've sent about 5 mexican moto x force to different places, but nobody makes clear this.
is the mexican x force dual sim by default?
i know it says something in settings.
can ANYONE confirm or deny this?
could the DS on baseband and system version mean DUAL SIM?
pic related.
i'll answer myself (sorry for the doble post)
i was suspicious because the name in the baseband said DS which mean dual sim, after this i only needed confirmation that it works right out of the box without having to flash anything.
strange thing is, this is not listed on the x force motorola page, but it works if you put your 2nd sim.
All moto x Force from mexico are dual sim
so far i only confirmed the 32gb version working.
im waiting for the 64Gb version confirmation.
Jaocagomez said:
i'll answer myself (sorry for the doble post)
i was suspicious because the name in the baseband said DS which mean dual sim, after this i only needed confirmation that it works right out of the box without having to flash anything.
strange thing is, this is not listed on the x force motorola page, but it works if you put your 2nd sim.
All moto x Force from mexico are dual sim
so far i only confirmed the 32gb version working.
im waiting for the 64Gb version confirmation.
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My MXF (64 GB) comes from a retail store in México D.F., and is a dual sim model too. Dual sim working out of the box and after 6.0 update
Mine is from UK and sim slot shows sim1 and sd card/sim2. I have to replace another sim for nano to be able to test.
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Slot from my Force.
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Slot from my Force.
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well thats enough confirmation for me
why motorola doesnt say its a dual sim model?
Jaocagomez said:
well thats enough confirmation for me
why motorola doesnt say its a dual sim model?
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Because most probably is just generic slot. Doesn't mean that phone itself has dual sim support. Honestly I don't think it has, will test when I get another nano sim.
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Zeljko1234 said:
Because most probably is just generic slot. Doesn't mean that phone itself has dual sim support. Honestly I don't think it has, will test when I get another nano sim.
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we got confirmation it works, if you have one, try it, put another sim make a call. it should work.
Jaocagomez said:
we got confirmation it works, if you have one, try it, put another sim make a call. it should work.
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Mine is from UK, not confirmed that supports ds. Will try, of course.
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So far, all the sources I have seen report that the UK version is a single SIM model.
Even if the tray says "SIM 2", it doesn't mean anything...
Even the single SIM version of X Play has a tray that includes space for the second SIM card (and also says "SIM 2"), it's just covered with a piece of plastic.
In X Force the same space is shared between second SIM and SD card, so they can't cover it. That's all...
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So, to sum things up, so far we know that 32GB version from Mexican Moto Maker is a dual SIM model.
And that 64GB version from a retail location in Mexico is also a dual SIM model - but this may not be the exact same model as available through Moto Maker.
Whether the 64GB version from Moto Maker is, in fact, dual SIM hasn't been confirmed yet...
It would be nice if Motorola actually confirmed that...
I'm going crazy already installed more than 6 versions, LAT, MX, BR, EU and any works DualSim.
My team is BL Unlock SIM Unlock and does not work, apparently has to do the system, the version that you have your 23.11.5.kinzie_retmx_ds.retla.en.01 retmx * * is the only one that is DualSim, as you installed this version ?
You can have the link or location came down?
You can make a backup of your modem?
BastianSnow said:
I'm going crazy already installed more than 6 versions, LAT, MX, BR, EU and any works DualSim.
My team is BL Unlock SIM Unlock and does not work, apparently has to do the system, the version that you have your 23.11.5.kinzie_retmx_ds.retla.en.01 retmx * * is the only one that is DualSim, as you installed this version ?
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This post doesn't make any sense. What team? What doesn't work?
What does unlocking SIM have to do with dual SIM capabilities?
What device do you have? Which country did it come from?
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This post doesn't make any sense. What team? What doesn't work?
What does unlocking SIM have to do with dual SIM capabilities?
What device do you have? Which country did it come from?
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He is probably posting a Google translation. [emoji1]
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Usually if you see "ds" in baseband / sw version on stock sw, then it's a dual-sim.
On the side note, which LTE bands does mexican Moto X Force have? I kinda like it's dual-sim, since now I have two Moto MAXX in my pocket.
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Usually if you see "ds" in baseband / sw version on stock sw, then it's a dual-sim.
On the side note, which LTE bands does mexican Moto X Force have? I kinda like it's dual-sim, since now I have two Moto MAXX in my pocket.
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GSM / GPRS / EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
UMTS / HSPA+ (850, 900, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz)
4G LTE (B1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 25, 28, 40)
Out of curiosity, I removed the SIM tray from my Turbo 2 and took a peek inside with a bright light. Apparently, my XT1585 has dual SIM... hardware-wise at least. Of course, my SIM tray won't fit a 2nd SIM, only the SD card.
Would it be safe to say all Turbo 2 and X Force variations are dual SIM from a hardware perspective?
Malkovich? said:
Out of curiosity, I removed the SIM tray from my Turbo 2 and took a peek inside with a bright light. Apparently, my XT1585 has dual SIM... hardware-wise at least. Of course, my SIM tray won't fit a 2nd SIM, only the SD card.
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Is the SIM tray different than the one in XT1580 (X Force)?
Because SIM tray in X Force has only two slots -one for the first SIM card, and the second one for either SD card or the second SIM card - but not both.
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Would it be safe to say all Turbo 2 and X Force variations are dual SIM from a hardware perspective?
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I'm not sure what you saw inside your phone, but X Play (XT1563) also looks like,
from hardware perspective, it has connectors for the second SIM - and the single SIM version cannot be converted to a dual one regardless.
So it probably doesn't really matter whether those connectors are there or not...
I'm really intrested in this topic. I'm in Italy, and I'd love to put my hands on a Moto X Force dual sim. The ultimate smarphone.
So far I understood the only version ds is the mexican one, and no single sim version can become dual sim by flashing firmware. Is that correct?
alekos panagulis said:
I'm really intrested in this topic. I'm in Italy, and I'd love to put my hands on a Moto X Force dual sim. The ultimate smarphone.
So far I understood the only version ds is the mexican one, and no single sim version can become dual sim by flashing firmware. Is that correct?
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I haven't seen a single X Force from Mexico being reported as a single SIM version, and there are several reports saying it is a dual SIM device.
However, Motorola Mexico still claims it is a single SIM device, and their webpage doesn't specify whether it is a dual or single version,
just that it uses nano SIMs.
There is also X Force from Brazil which, according to Motorola Brazil webpage, is officially a dual SIM device.
The UK version of X Force is officially (on the webpage) a single SIM device and it doesn't have options for the second SIM.
However, I don't know if anybody even tried flashing the UK version with a different firmware or what the result of that flashing would be.
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The UK version of X Force is officially (on the webpage) a single SIM device and it doesn't have options for the second SIM.
However, I don't know if anybody even tried flashing the UK version with a different firmware or what the result of that flashing would be.
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It's the same for UK X Play, but X Play can be converted to Dual SIM by flashing a Dual SIM firmware. I guess it will be the same for X Force, but someone has to take the risk to confirm that.
Hey everyone.
Since Samsung's decision to unify all the devices sold to vendors into one unique device spread to all providers in the USA (the Snapdragon version) isn't it possible they did the same with the Exynos version and just changed the tray for the dual sim models, the hardware being in fact the same for both? (dual modem, dual sim reader, etc)
It would be nice if someone tried to fit a dual sim tray into a single sim S7/S7E. I've heard there are some S7e phones in the wild that do not have the DUOS name written on the back but are in fact the FD model.
Thoughts?
I'm in middleeast and yesterday i went to samsung store to buy one and store guy offered me the s7 edge 935f but as he said i can use either with two sims or one sim with memory I'm confused so i didn't buy it
Im not sure its the snapdragon or exynos
I think they only sell the Exynos outside of the USA
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I think they only sell the Exynos outside of the USA
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China received the snapdragon variant, SM-G9350
Anyone able to try a dual sim tray in a single sim S7edge?
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Anyone able to try a dual sim tray in a single sim S7edge?
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It would be very interesting.
dual sim tray into a single sim S7/S7E
I have the s7 edge single sim G935F but want the dual sim capability and wondered about whether it was just the tray, so i purchased a dual sim tray using just the one sim, i thought if i put it in the second slim slot it would still register but it didnt, so now i am considering trying to install the G935FD dual sim firmware. i have found threads where folks have done it the other way around, dont understand why but cant seem to find anyone that has tried changing from single to dual.
It will not work...
The G935FD has two IMEIs, one for each SIM slot. Even if you got a G935F to recognize both SIMs, the second SIM slot wouldn't have an IMEI, and you wouldn't be able to register it. There's no difference in G935F firmware and G935FD firmware at all. Its a matter of low level software and processes that recognize the SIM and assign the IMEI.
Hi guys,
Can I activate a dual sim functionality in Galaxy S7 edge sold by any UK's providers?
Three, O2 etc say I can't use S7 edge as a dual sim phone.
Is there any workout for this? I need a dual sim phone, but dont want to get S7 edge dual sim off ebay because my upgrade is in a few days......
Thanks
On everything i have already searched and seen on this subject, no you can't
Have you actually tried to put 2 sim cards in s7 edge at any shop selling mobiles in the UK, or you just read, please?
I asked the same thing. 2 reasons why you can't
1) the sim / sd card holder doesn't have this shape to add the 2nd sim. So you'd need to change / mod that
2) whilst the 2nd sim circuits and connectors are in the phone there is no 2nd IMEI assigned to it
Adding an IMEI would be illegal under UK law..
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Hi guys,
Can I activate a dual sim functionality in Galaxy S7 edge sold by any UK's providers?
Three, O2 etc say I can't use S7 edge as a dual sim phone.
Is there any workout for this? I need a dual sim phone, but dont want to get S7 edge dual sim off ebay because my upgrade is in a few days......
Thanks
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see this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/help/to-convert-935f-dual-sim-t3341121
Here you go.
http://www.noreplied.com/how-to-ins...d-and-microsd-card-in-samsung-galaxy-s7-edge/
I've read that the phone will come in two versions, one without the second SIM card slot (but still the uSD). Is there a way to know which version will ship in Europe? You can see the versions number on the official website: http://consumer.huawei.com/en/support/mobile-phones/huaweip10plus-en-sup.htm
VKY-L09 is single SIM
VKY-L29 is dual SIM
I don't get why they would remove this functionality for some parts of the world.
A lot of companies are backwards having this hybrid slot, giving you the choice of one (dual SIM) or the other (single SIM + expandable storage), although they are stuck in the 2013 bubble...some companies have actually moved on from there, but I'm surprised why this has not developed with major phone manufacturers.
RoOSTA
There is also the VKY-al00
VKY-AL00
Main SIM card:; LTE FDD: Bands 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/9/12/17/18/19/20; TD-LTE: Bands 38/39/40/41 (100M); UMTS (WCDMA) / HSPA+ / DC-HSDPA: Bands 1/2/4/5/6/8/19; TD-SCDMA: Bands 34/39; CDMA: BC0 (800 MHz), Only for China Telecom (China Mainland + Macao, China); GSM / EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz; ;
Secondary SIM card:; UMTS (WCDMA): Bands 1/2/4/5/6/8/19; CDMA: BC0 (800 MHz), Only for China Telecom (China Mainland + Macao, China); GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz; ;
Notes: The two SIM card slots can be Main card or secondary card.; ;
http://consumer.huawei.com/en/mobile-phones/compare/index.htm?pro1=P10-PLUS-ENVKY-AL00;
Aarseth said:
I've read that the phone will come in two versions, one without the second SIM card slot (but still the uSD). Is there a way to know which version will ship in Europe?
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I received my pre-order yesterday, it's the VKY-L09 single SIM variant in the Netherlands, so I suppose the same is true for the rest of Europe.
I was speaking with a Huawei 'expert' at Carphone Warehouse yesterday, and asked about the dual/single situation in the UK. He said he has been told by an insider that a ROM flash wil be made available to enable the dual sim mode in single sim phones. He said the actual board and connector inside the phone are already in place, it's just the ROM that disables it and the sim tray that are different. He said his source said the ROM will be available in a month or two and the SIM trays will start popping up on eBay.....
Sounds like either the biggest marketing play ever to sell phones and hope no one really cares it doesn't happen, or Huawei realise the issue, and despite the UK networks not wanting it when they provde the phone to us, Huawei realise the potential of offereing a dual SIM option. I have to say he did not give me the hard sell at all, he said they only have a black phone in stock (and only one) and if I wanted white/gold (which I do) to wait a few days and try again. He had a P10 of his own, and was gushing about the P10 Plus like a schoolboy geek!
So there is hope yet!
Just been speaking to a senior manager at Huawei UK who picked up on this when I asked their Twitter account when the update would be available...
IT IS NOT TRUE the actual hardware is different with the single SIM version only having a single aerial so there's no way it can be flashed to make it duel SIM
WHy h why do sales people feel the need to say things that are not true!
Anyway my (probably single SIM) P10 Plus should be arriving today .....
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I was speaking with a Huawei 'expert' at Carphone Warehouse yesterday, and asked about the dual/single situation in the UK. He said he has been told by an insider that a ROM flash wil be made available to enable the dual sim mode in single sim phones. He said the actual board and connector inside the phone are already in place, it's just the ROM that disables it and the sim tray that are different. He said his source said the ROM will be available in a month or two and the SIM trays will start popping up on eBay.....
Sounds like either the biggest marketing play ever to sell phones and hope no one really cares it doesn't happen, or Huawei realise the issue, and despite the UK networks not wanting it when they provde the phone to us, Huawei realise the potential of offereing a dual SIM option. I have to say he did not give me the hard sell at all, he said they only have a black phone in stock (and only one) and if I wanted white/gold (which I do) to wait a few days and try again. He had a P10 of his own, and was gushing about the P10 Plus like a schoolboy geek!
So there is hope yet!
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Hi this is the reason I came here, the SIM tray for my VKY-L09 capable to put two SIM card, just the software not support. So maybe if Flash the dual SIM ROM can use as VKY-L29.
Phecabooth said:
Hi this is the reason I came here, the SIM tray for my VKY-L09 capable to put two SIM card, just the software not support. So maybe if Flash the dual SIM ROM can use as VKY-L29.
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Read my second post - it is NOT possible aparently!
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Read my second post - it is NOT possible aparently!
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sry
im so sad reading that.
Phecabooth said:
sry
im so sad reading that.
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Me too! I don't know why some countries get Dual and some Single - so silly!
Phecabooth said:
Hi this is the reason I came here, the SIM tray for my VKY-L09 capable to put two SIM card, just the software not support. So maybe if Flash the dual SIM ROM can use as VKY-L29.
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I have dual SIM software on a single SIM phone, let me know how I'd put 2 SIM cards in and I'll try it.
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I have dual SIM software on a single SIM phone, let me know how I'd put 2 SIM cards in and I'll try it.
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My SIM tray is capable to accept two SIM card with no user modification, that is why I though is only the software is different, but I already got answer here as the two model has two different hardware capabilites.
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My SIM tray is capable to accept two SIM card with no user modification, that is why I though is only the software is different, but I already got answer here as the two model has two different hardware capabilites.
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What I'm saying is people at any company will tell you anything to stop tampering with it both software and hardware. I have a dual SIM firmware on my l09 edition. If i can get a dual SIM tray or nodded tray I'll give it a go. Until both phones have been disassembled and had a look then all we can do is hope and try
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Just been speaking to a senior manager at Huawei UK who picked up on this when I asked their Twitter account when the update would be available...
IT IS NOT TRUE the actual hardware is different with the single SIM version only having a single aerial so there's no way it can be flashed to make it duel SIM
WHy h why do sales people feel the need to say things that are not true!
Anyway my (probably single SIM) P10 Plus should be arriving today .....
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its possible, Chimeratool .com does that, once you have the hardware hint in form of the second sim slot on most Huawei. Its the first hint possible conversion.
thanks
essojay said:
its possible, Chimeratool .com does that, once you have the hardware hint in form of the second sim slot on most Huawei. Its the first hint possible conversion.
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So that means Huawei lied to me? I guess possible..... not wanting single SIM to be easily changed to dual SIM.
So ALL we need is the SIM tray? The hardware definitely inside?
Wonder which country have the L29. UK only L09, I am thinking dual sim L29 as it will come in handy to have 2 sim if needed.
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Wonder which country have the L29. UK only L09, I am thinking dual sim L29 as it will come in handy to have 2 sim if needed.
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Hi all,
I've get my P10 Plus in UK couple of days ago. I was really disappointed that model doesn't support dual sim. Huawei Support also told me that my phone is single SIM only plus SD Card. But when I took a torch and flash inside SIM card slot I can easily see second set of sim card pins right upon empty space in tray. So I think it's highly possible to change ROM only and get Dual Sim Version. We need to wait couple weeks to release files for both devices and than check that
If you rebrand to a dual sim model, you can use both sims. Many people reported success already. Google for rebrand huawei p10 plus -- most success has been reported if you rebrand to VKY-L29C636 version.
Confirmed, i rebranded and flashed the VKY-L29C636 on my single sim and it worked, the only thing that i lost is the theme function. Somebody say how can i fix it?