Can't Find Backup - Verizon HTC 10 Questions & Answers

So I downloaded an update for Vemon Rom and went to flash it, I could remember the password I made for TWRP so I restarted my phone and ignored it, But the data on the phone got corrupted, I serarch online to see how to fix it and I saw Formating the userdata helps. So I did but now the phone is back to stock. I made a TWRP backup about a week before the update and now I can't find it no matter where I look, My SD card is merged with the phone memory, not sure if this info helped or am I boned and have to start completely fresh again?

Ragnell said:
So I downloaded an update for Vemon Rom and went to flash it, I could remember the password I made for TWRP so I restarted my phone and ignored it, But the data on the phone got corrupted, I serarch online to see how to fix it and I saw Formating the userdata helps. So I did but now the phone is back to stock. I made a TWRP backup about a week before the update and now I can't find it no matter where I look, My SD card is merged with the phone memory, not sure if this info helped or am I boned and have to start completely fresh again?
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I'm not up to date on SD-Card merged. But formatting userdata wipes internal storage, so it's possible your sd-card got wiped on the process as well.

andybones said:
I'm not up to date on SD-Card merged. But formatting userdata wipes internal storage, so it's possible your sd-card got wiped on the process as well.
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Well I tried looking for the backup before I did the Userdata wipe, also I'm sure it doesnt do internal storage, just system/data/cache its like a factory reset

Ragnell said:
Well I tried looking for the backup before I did the Userdata wipe, also I'm sure it doesnt do internal storage, just system/data/cache its like a factory reset
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Sorry, Yea was thinking of something else.
Anyway nandroid are held in internal or sd-card foldwr: TWRP/BACKKUPS/serial#/name_of_nandroid
I'm sure you know this, however.
Sorry I couldn't be of any help.

andybones said:
Sorry, Yea was thinking of something else.
Anyway nandroid are held in internal or sd-card foldwr: TWRP/BACKKUPS/serial#/name_of_nandroid
I'm sure you know this, however.
Sorry I couldn't be of any help.
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Rather gotten any helpful reply than none, thanks anyways bud

Formatting userdata is formatting the internal storage. If you had the Micro SD card added as adoptable storage, then your internal storage and Micro SD card can't be separated - what you do to one affects the other. So unless I'm misunderstanding something, all your storage got formatted.
Wiping doesn't erase your internal storage, but wiping alone wouldn't have solved your problem.

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[Q] Full Wipe Question

ok - Not a noob - But New to Tablets.
Does a Full wipe in CW Recovery : (wipe Data, Cache, Davlik) delete all files on my internal 32 GB sd card?
I have a bunch of movies there I don't want to loose when Rom Flashing....
Thanks in advance.
Nope.
Only a Full Erase in settings will erase it. I've flashed my Iconia tons and have never lost anything on it.... unless I wanted too.
edit: That's the built-in internal SD, or the SD Card
engine95 said:
Nope.
Only a Full Erase in settings will erase it. I've flashed my Iconia tons and have never lost anything on it.... unless I wanted too.
edit: That's the built-in internal SD, or the SD Card
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Thats the BUILT IN SD - Not the External Removable one.
Sorry bout that. Neither one will be wiped.
engine95 said:
Sorry bout that. Neither one will be wiped.
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THANKS!
That is GREAT to KNOW!

Interrnal memory problems

Hello,
I cannot wipe data trough CWM, and cannot install new ROM (it boots forever).
Looks like I have got internal memory problems...
I can boot CWM only.
Any idea how to format internal memory thru CWM?.. Or any other advice?..
tatuk said:
Hello,
I cannot wipe data trough CWM, and cannot install new ROM (it boots forever).
Looks like I have got internal memory problems...
I can boot CWM only.
Any idea how to format internal memory thru CWM?.. Or any other advice?..
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Have you gone into CWM "mounts and storage" and formatted system, data, and cache?
kjy2010 said:
Have you gone into CWM "mounts and storage" and formatted system, data, and cache?
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I just "wiped" it all. Is there any menu choice to format them?
tatuk said:
I just "wiped" it all. Is there any menu choice to format them?
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Well if you went into the "mounts and storage" menu as advised, you'd see only two options for system, data, and cache, which would be "mount" or "format".
Which would you choose?
Somehow all that CWM formats didn't work for me...
Even after I placed the empty file"eraseData" (according to Thor) to CWM folder....
Actually, hardware reset saved my tablet
It didn't format the whole thing too, but it cleaned /data/ at least.
Any way, thank you very much for your help.
Does there exist some tool like "checkdisk" for Android?
I believe I still have to check somehow my internal memory card...,
tatuk said:
Somehow all that CWM formats didn't work for me...
Even after I placed the empty file"eraseData" (according to Thor) to CWM folder....
Actually, hardware reset saved my tablet
It didn't format the whole thing too, but it cleaned /data/ at least.
Any way, thank you very much for your help.
Does there exist some tool like "checkdisk" for Android?
I believe I still have to check somehow my internal memory card...,
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I did an extensive search for an android disk utility, but couldn't find one, sorry
Oops, just found one, but it's only a defrag utility:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.disk.defrag.rubiks&hl=en
long shot.. but.. you haven't encrypted your tablet have you?
If you've encrypted your tablet in order to access corporate exchange servers then you will find that none of these will work until you've done a factory reset (through the annoying as hell switch flicking method )
-Dave

Does flashing a ROM normally wipe not only system but also data and sdcard?

I just tried a ROM for the first time on my Nexus 7 (though I've used a lot on my past phones) and holy ****, coming from a non-Nexus device, I wasn't expect this, it wiped out my internal storage partition (/sdcard) as well as my data partition.
Losing the international storage partition is really painful, as that's where all my clockworkmod backups were.
Does this happen every time a ROM is flashed on a Nexus 7? (In case it makes a difference, this is the ROM I flashed.) Does this happen every time an update to a ROM is flashed?
For future reference, is there any way to try ROMs and flash updates without wiping out my whole internal storage?
Do you have a 3G?
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
over the air system updates shouldn't delete any data but as far as I know flashing a different rom will wipe everything. With a phone the data is stored on a separate physical device such as a microsd card but with the nexus 7 its all held on the internal memory. You could use an otg cable and thumb drive as external storage for backup purposes.
dparrothead1 said:
Do you have a 3G?
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
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Yeah, I have a 3G.
corumuk said:
over the air system updates shouldn't delete any data but as far as I know flashing a different rom will wipe everything. With a phone the data is stored on a separate physical device such as a microsd card but with the nexus 7 its all held on the internal memory. You could use an otg cable and thumb drive as external storage for backup purposes.
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So what do people normally do when an update to a ROM comes out? Do they fully backup everything and then do an advanced restore in CWM to get back their data? Or are most people starting fresh on every ROM update?
corumuk said:
over the air system updates shouldn't delete any data but as far as I know flashing a different rom will wipe everything. With a phone the data is stored on a separate physical device such as a microsd card but with the nexus 7 its all held on the internal memory. You could use an otg cable and thumb drive as external storage for backup purposes.
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What?
A rom shouldn't wipe the Emmc (internal sdcard), coming from Samsung phones that all have 16gb of internal storage plus a slot for an external card, i have never had it wipe my storage. Either internal or external.
I have also flashed a few roms on the Nexus and the ONLY thing that wiped my storage was unlocking the bootloader.
Looks to me like you were answered in the ROM Thread that you referenced.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35322271
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Based on my experience with the original Droid, flashing a new rom usually calls for wiping system, cache, data, boot, and dalvik. Internal memory data is deleted, but external microsd storage is not cleared. The N7 only has internal memory, and that is cleared when doing the wipes prior to installing a new rom. You should copy pictures, video, documents, downloads, music, saved texts, etc. to a pc or OTG storage along with the backups before the new rom.
Wiping system and data in recovery does not touch /sdcard. sdcard should remain intact unless flashing a factory image.
regalpimpin said:
Wiping system and data in recovery does not touch /sdcard. sdcard should remain intact unless flashing a factory image.
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This.
If you want to be completely and absolutely sure it will not delete anything, open the zip go to:
META-INF/com/Google/android and open up the updater-script file in a text editor, look through and you will see every command that is given in the flash.
You will most likely only see it format the /system partition. Which is why you manually have to do a factory reset in recovery, which formats
/data (where your user apps and preferences are stored, as well as the dalvik cache is)
/cache
And the android secure file which is in fact located on the Emmc, but that is the only file on that partition it touches.
Thanks all, turns out the line that killed me was in the instructions for the ROM I flashed, the flash instruction was:
fastboot -w flash system system.img
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That -w flag is what wiped my internal storage.
manekineko said:
Thanks all, turns out the line that killed me was in the instructions for the ROM I flashed, the flash instruction was:
That -w flag is what wiped my internal storage.
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So what did you do with that ?
manekineko said:
Thanks all, turns out the line that killed me was in the instructions for the ROM I flashed, the flash instruction was:
That -w flag is what wiped my internal storage.
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@manekineko @studacris Can you please elaborate, what do you mean by that ? I am intending to flash a different ROM on a different device.I extracted the firmware zip and checked every file but couldn't find "wipe (-w) in fastboot with system.img".
Thank you

Every time !! Arghhhh

Okay,, i have a note 10.1 n8010 and EVERYTIME I FLASH a rom i cant install any apps and it says insufficient storage, I do everything step by step, I don't understand, I just don't understand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can someone please explain me why this is, i wipe everything before doing a update etc...
asustf700t said:
Okay,, i have a note 10.1 n8010 and EVERYTIME I FLASH a rom i cant install any apps and it says insufficient storage, I do everything step by step, I don't understand, I just don't understand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can someone please explain me why this is, i wipe everything before doing a update etc...
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Are you using an external SD Card or just your internal one ?
lsherif said:
Are you using an external SD Card or just your internal one ?
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A external one as well
asustf700t said:
A external one as well
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Try following the below steps as per smaw51 recommendations :
wipe data/factory reset
wipe cache partition
mounts and storage/ format /data
mounts and storage/ format /system
mounts and storage/ format /cache
advanced/ wipe dalvik cache
Repeat a couple times for good measure
I have already tried those steps as I found them online and it does nothing, I always have to delete everything and then return to stock ... I just don't get it >
asustf700t said:
I have already tried those steps as I found them online and it does nothing, I always have to delete everything and then return to stock ... I just don't get it >
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So what`s your internal free storage after installing a fresh rom ?
asustf700t said:
I have already tried those steps as I found them online and it does nothing, I always have to delete everything and then return to stock ... I just don't get it >
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Oops accidentally thanked you for this post.
Anyways, I have found that wiping data from recovery doesn't clear download files and such. Download Astro File manager and see what is taking up most of your internal memory. I found personally that .zip files and a few things like that were taking up oodles of storage space. Also, when yuo do a CWM backup, do the backup to the External SD card, that way it doesn't take up app space.
lsherif said:
So what`s your internal free storage after installing a fresh rom ?
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like 7gb? and external is 4gb because i have a partition, but the partition in my case is irrelevant because before when I didn't know about link2sd I still had this problem, but everyone else seems to flash roms daily with no issues lol?
Jonphinguyen7 said:
Oops accidentally thanked you for this post.
Anyways, I have found that wiping data from recovery doesn't clear download files and such. Download Astro File manager and see what is taking up most of your internal memory. I found personally that .zip files and a few things like that were taking up oodles of storage space. Also, when yuo do a CWM backup, do the backup to the External SD card, that way it doesn't take up app space.
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okay ill thank you back lol, okay I will back it up externally for future reference, but the issue seems to be on every rom i download with my device...but no one else seems to have this issue with the same rom
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i can't it says ive reached my 8 limit today...
anyone?
i also tried the steps in this post... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1745247&page=3
I believe reading this thread and taking a few tips has fixed everything!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1908711&page=2
I strongly suggest you flash a stock rom using Odin and clear everything. If you still have problems with the stock rom on your tablet return it for warranty repair. My feeling is though it is something you are doing. So once back to stock (out of the box) reinstall apps one at a time - avoid apps to sd and installing them on external memory. I don't believe that can be necessary!

Formatting internal SD

After trying out some roms I want to start fresh. I plan on odining back to MDB and was wondering if it's possible to format the internal SD as well. Is there an option in Odin to do that or is it bad to wipe the internal SD?
do u mean phone memory by interal sd ?
Not sure why you would need to format it--just back it up before you do anything
Why back to MD--just curious
As far as formatting internal, not sure
I rooted before looking into stock recovery to see if it had option. CWM did on the S3, but I have twrp and it does not have that option
there use to be codes to format internal also--don't remember them
some research needed--but still back up everything and pull ext sdcard before you do anything
I have a similar question, does formatting internal sd also wipe everything (except system) from root (/)?
seanpr123 said:
I have a similar question, does formatting internal sd also wipe everything (except system) from root (/)?
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It'll wipe /storage/sdcard0 and everything on it only. Not sure what you mean by root.
jd1639 said:
It'll wipe /storage/sdcard0 and everything on it only. Not sure what you mean by root.
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Kinda what I figured, so I'm curious is it possible to start completely fresh from / or maybe that happens on a ROM install anyway?
For instance under root I have the following directories:
acct,cache,config/d/data/data_1-3,dev,efs,etc,firmware,mnt,persdata,preload,proc,res,root,sbin,sdcard,sotage,sys,system,tombstones,vendor. Along with a bunch of files, many are init.something. I know how to wipe sdcard (as you mentioned above), and system but what about everything else.
Make sense?
seanpr123 said:
Kinda what I figured, so I'm curious is it possible to start completely fresh from / or maybe that happens on a ROM install anyway?
For instance under root I have the following directories:
acct,cache,config/d/data/data_1-3,dev,efs,etc,firmware,mnt,persdata,preload,proc,res,root,sbin,sdcard,sotage,sys,system,tombstones,vendor. Along with a bunch of files, many are init.something. I know how to wipe sdcard (as you mentioned above), and system but what about everything else.
Make sense?
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Flashing a Rom will write over those other folders.
lazard said:
After trying out some roms I want to start fresh. I plan on odining back to MDB and was wondering if it's possible to format the internal SD as well. Is there an option in Odin to do that or is it bad to wipe the internal SD?
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There's really no reason to do this before using ODIN. ODIN rewrites anything in it's way. If there's something it didn't rewrite it's probably because you need that.
agent929 said:
There's really no reason to do this before using ODIN. ODIN rewrites anything in it's way. If there's something it didn't rewrite it's probably because you need that.
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Not necessarily, I've odined many times and it hasn't touched my internal sd card.
jd1639 said:
Not necessarily, I've odined many times and it hasn't touched my internal sd card.
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....what do you mean internal SD card? I guess I'm just a little confused. I know there are many partitions (I think 7 total) but ODIN won't write to all of them. I'm assuming that if you format the internal storage completely it will mess your phone up.
agent929 said:
....what do you mean internal SD card? I guess I'm just a little confused. I know there are many partitions (I think 7 total) but ODIN won't write to all of them. I'm assuming that if you format the internal storage completely it will mess your phone up.
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The part where pics, etc are stored /storage/sdcard0. Yea, the other partitions get overwritten when you Odin. And you certainly don't want to try and format those.
Ps, there are closer to 30 different partitions that android creates.
Alright yeah I understand what you mean now. Your right ODIN won't do that part, to my knowledge the only safe way to do it through recovery on your phone.

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