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HTC HD2 T9193 850 - 1900 Mhz ?????

Hi .. I was searching the forum because I want to purchase an HTC HD2 T9193 which, I know, has the 850 - 2100 Mhz band. But I found on the net a vendor who offers the HTC HD2 850 - 1900 Mhz band, is this right ?
On the other hand, if there is not such HD2 with 850 - 1900 Mhz band, the one with the 850 - 2100 band will pick up 3G in Canada ?

That model (850 / 1900) was supposed to come out (for AT&T most probably), but it has since been cancelled.
I'd be careful if I were you. You can find more info about it here
The Telstra model (T9193) supports 850 / 2100 MHz like you said. You'll need to check with your service provider if they support 850.

leepriestenator said:
...You'll need to check with your service provider if they support 850.
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Yes. You'll need to check if ATT supports the 850mhz band IN YOUR AREA.
I'm in a North Shore Suburb of Chicago area and have excellent reception with my T9193 in the area. There are 3 dead zones I've found so far that repeatedly drops calls using the HD2's 850mhz band exclusively. Other unlocked phones I've previously owned that used the 1900mhz band exclusively did NOT drop calls in these areas however. Other than that, reception has been great. It's been reported that ATT is "supposedly" moving their entire network to the 850mhz band exclusively by end of 2010. I'm doubtful they are on target for this date given the number of cities still without any 850mhz support.

T9193
Hi guys ...thanks for your responses. Well, I know that the most important service providers in Canada (Rogers, Telus, Fido) transmit 3G in the 850 - 1900 mhz band. I suppose I will not have problems whether I use the T9193

HTC One updated frequency list

Hi guys! Thought I would put this here since I saw from the past few weeks about some people having signal issues with the HTC One.
Unfortunately HTC updated their HTC One page with the new frequency bands list.
2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - UMTS/ HSPA:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: : 900/1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 42 Mbps
Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 42 Mbps
Canada/ Latin America: 850/1900/2100 MHz up to HSDPA 42 Mbps
T-Mobile (US): 850/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 42 Mbps
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 21 Mbps
Sprint: 1900/2100 MHz with HSDPA up to 14.4 Mbps
3G - CDMA:
800/1900 MHz for Sprint
4G - LTE:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 800/1800/2600 MHz
Asia: 1800/2600 MHz
T-Mobile (US)/ AT&T/ Canada/ Latin America: 700 MHz and AWS band
Sprint: 1900 MHz
http://www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-one/#specs
To the australian people who preordered their phones from EU. It is indeed official now that 850mhz is not supported.

*Australian on the 850MHz carrier here*
On one hand, I'm glad HTC acknowledged this and I've have been put out of my misery. On the other, I want to do a facepalm at HTC.
I understand how 850MHz testing of the European model could have been deprioritised. And I still believe HTC should be supported for coming out with a great phone at a time of trouble (possibly as many articles on their profit report as phone reviews!), but boy are they making it hard for themselves. They are not a new company. What's different about this phone vs the other internationally available in different variants phones they've released?
I have a quiet chuckle every so often about the saga of getting this phone. Excitement, delay, delay, worry about 850MHz support, dispatch!, oh what it won't work?!?, return, wait for local launch, to be continued...

You wouldn't happen to know what type of NFC it has?
Looked at GSM arena, no where does it go in to any depth on the NFC...
Cheers,

deeevan said:
*Australian on the 850MHz carrier here*
On one hand, I'm glad HTC acknowledged this and I've have been put out of my misery. On the other, I want to do a facepalm at HTC.
I understand how 850MHz testing of the European model could have been deprioritised. And I still believe HTC should be supported for coming out with a great phone at a time of trouble (possibly as many articles on their profit report as phone reviews!), but boy are they making it hard for themselves. They are not a new company. What's different about this phone vs the other internationally available in different variants phones they've released?
I have a quiet chuckle every so often about the saga of getting this phone. Excitement, delay, delay, worry about 850MHz support, dispatch!, oh what it won't work?!?, return, wait for local launch, to be continued...
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I'm in the same position here, buggered cos i was so excited. Plus only being able to realise this in the last day or so, now i'm probably now at the end of a very long wait list on the Harvey Norman preorders.

The HTC Unlocked from the US site has the following information:
This HTC One® unlocked version comes with: 32GB of onboard memory and is SIM unlocked.
- HSPA/WCDMA: 850/1900/2100 MHz
- GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
- LTE: 700/850/AWS/1900 MHz (US)
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From my understanding this works in Europe too, except for the LTE?
Frequencies:
900 / 1800 MHz GSM, GPRS, EDGE
2100 MHz UMTS, HSDPA, HSPA+, DC-HSPA+
900 / 1800 MHz LTE
As I pretty don't much care about 4G/LTE the US unlocked will work otherwise without any problems, right?

Yes you are correct!
Other thank the UK variant not having 850mhz HSDPA frequency all bands from 2g to HSPA should be compatible worldwide.
Corduroy-21 said:
The HTC Unlocked from the US site has the following information:
From my understanding this works in Europe too, except for the LTE?
Frequencies:
900 / 1800 MHz GSM, GPRS, EDGE
2100 MHz UMTS, HSDPA, HSPA+, DC-HSPA+
900 / 1800 MHz LTE
As I pretty don't much care about 4G/LTE the US unlocked will work otherwise without any problems, right?
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snowblind2142 said:
You wouldn't happen to know what type of NFC it has?
Looked at GSM arena, no where does it go in to any depth on the NFC...
Cheers,
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It has the NXP PN544 chip with its usual level of support it seems. Unlike the S4, it should therefore support Mifare tags without issues.

Exynos version in the UK?

Hi
I'm after the Exynos version but am based in the UK.
Firstly, where could I get it from and secondly would it work due to the region lock issues?
Thanks.
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I've found the N900 variant from Negri Electronics.
It runs on 3G/4G bands - 1900, 2100, 850, 950
In the UK I have a Virgin Mobile SIM and an O2 SIM.
O2 has 900, 1800 for 2G, 900, 2100 for 3G and 850 for 4G so I guess I would be able to use this for 3G still?
Virgin has 1800 for 2G, 2100 for 3G and 800 and 1800 for 4G so again, OK for 3G?
I'd definitely like some clarification before pulling the trigger.

TheMathMan said:
I've found the N900 variant from Negri Electronics.
It runs on 3G/4G bands - 1900, 2100, 850, 950
In the UK I have a Virgin Mobile SIM and an O2 SIM.
O2 has 900, 1800 for 2G, 900, 2100 for 3G and 850 for 4G so I guess I would be able to use this for 3G still?
Virgin has 1800 for 2G, 2100 for 3G and 800 and 1800 for 4G so again, OK for 3G?
I'd definitely like some clarification before pulling the trigger.
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The 3G band for Europe and Asia is the same (and so are the 2G bands btw). The phone doesnt have an LTE radio, so obviously that wont work. I had no issues on EE.

If i may ask.. why on earth are you getting the n9000, and not the n9005? I am in the uk also. I am with giffgaff, soon they will have 4g.
Edit: i haven't actually used a n9000, but i would see no reason to basically downgrade from my n9005, very easy to build cm11 for. Everything just seems perfect. Had it since christmas
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After the one with the Wolfson DAC
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Mobile Network Bands and Oneplus One

I hope the following information is applicable for all countries....
India's mobile frequencies & bands are
2G : GSM 900 MHz, GSM 1800 MHz
3G : WCDMA/HSPA/UMTS 2100 MHz ---- which are equivalent to BAND 1
4G : TD-LTE 2300 MHz ---- which are equivalent to BAND 40
As you all know only Airtel is providing 4G in india in TD-LTE 2300 MHz.
Two types of LTE -- FDD LTE , TDD LTE (NEW China Standard mainly)
TD-LTE -- Time-division Long-Term Evolution
LTE TDD -- LTE Time-Division Duplex
TDD LTE -- Time-Division Duplex LTE
All above 3 are same I guess...
And the main stream LTE is called FDD-LTE - Frequency-Division Duplex LTE
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OPO International Bands are ----
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2G: GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900MHz
3G: WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/8
-- Which are equivalent to --- 2100 /1900 / 1700 / 850 / 900 MHz ( Frequencies)
4G: LTE: Bands: 1/3/4/7/17/38/40
-- Which are equivalent to --- FDD 2100/ FDD 1800/ FDD 1700/ FDD 2600 / FDD 700 b c / TDD 2600 / TDD 2300
OPO Chinese Bands are ----
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2G: GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz
3G: WCDMA: 2100 / 1900 / 850 / 900 MHz
TD-SCDMA：1880-1920/2010-2025MHz
-- Which are equivalent to --- 1/2/5/8/39/34
4G: FDD-LTE :2100/1800/2600 MHz
TD-LTE：1880-1920/2300-2400/2570-2620MHz
-- Which are equivalent to --- 1/3/7/39/40/38
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So for India Both versions should work with all available telecom providers.
Let me know your thoughts guys...
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No 4G on OPO in India
I thought of buying one, but seeing that it uses FDD LTE instead of TD, 4G will not work on this device in India.

WIND Mobile in Canada uses AWS Bands 1700/2100 in Canada. This phone is compatible with 4G 2100 as it shows, but not 1700. Do you think I will have 4G connectivity? Or 3G?

I bought one one from Lenteen and the 4G works perfectly in France with SFR

Does anyone know if flashing CM11S onto China OnePlus Ones will unlock the international bands? The CM11S factory image has a radio image. CM11 builds also include a radio.
Asking because I'm not receiving LTE signal on my China OPO that I've flashed to CM. Then again I have yet to try my SIM on another LTE enabled device...

djfoo000 said:
Does anyone know if flashing CM11S onto China OnePlus Ones will unlock the international bands? The CM11S factory image has a radio image. CM11 builds also include a radio.
Asking because I'm not receiving LTE signal on my China OPO that I've flashed to CM. Then again I have yet to try my SIM on another LTE enabled device...
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I would also love to know this thanks

djfoo000 said:
Does anyone know if flashing CM11S onto China OnePlus Ones will unlock the international bands? The CM11S factory image has a radio image. CM11 builds also include a radio.
Asking because I'm not receiving LTE signal on my China OPO that I've flashed to CM. Then again I have yet to try my SIM on another LTE enabled device...
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I've flashed Chinese OnePlus ONE with CM 11S and am still missing the AWS bands (Wind, Mobilicity, T-Mobile USA)

flaming homer said:
I've flashed Chinese OnePlus ONE with CM 11S and am still missing the AWS bands (Wind, Mobilicity, T-Mobile USA)
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I asume you flashed it with fastboot and not with recovery right?
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wacky.ddw said:
I asume you flashed it with fastboot and not with recovery right?
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Well, yes and no. I brought back 3 Chinese OPO from Beijing, and flashed the first via fastboot while transiting in Tokyo - that one would NOT work in any of the Japanese carriers (using two different SIM - Fido from Canada and TuneTalk from Malaysia) while Samsung Galaxy S3 worked fine. The second one I flashed once back in Canada via the standard recovery method as described by GizChina, and that one does not work on AWS band when tested with Wind Mobile SIM while Fido & Speakout SIMs worked awesome
Given my Japanese experience I'm not inclined to think the fastboot flash is any better than standard recovery flash

flaming homer said:
Well, yes and no. I brought back 3 Chinese OPO from Beijing, and flashed the first via fastboot while transiting in Tokyo - that one would NOT work in any of the Japanese carriers (using two different SIM - Fido from Canada and TuneTalk from Malaysia) while Samsung Galaxy S3 worked fine. The second one I flashed once back in Canada via the standard recovery method as described by GizChina, and that one does not work on AWS band when tested with Wind Mobile SIM while Fido & Speakout SIMs worked awesome
Given my Japanese experience I'm not inclined to think the fastboot flash is any better than standard recovery flash
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Hey, u said your fido sim work awesome. does it give u 3g or LTE network?

wataru said:
Hey, u said your fido sim work awesome. does it give u 3g or LTE network?
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Giving me 3G/H+, someone else said I may need a SIM upgrade - will try later

LTE on AT&T USA
djfoo000 said:
Does anyone know if flashing CM11S onto China OnePlus Ones will unlock the international bands? The CM11S factory image has a radio image. CM11 builds also include a radio.
Asking because I'm not receiving LTE signal on my China OPO that I've flashed to CM. Then again I have yet to try my SIM on another LTE enabled device...
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Has anyone using the OPO on ATT and have no problems with 4G LTE?
I heard some people got it to work but then when it looses LTE connection it doesnt drop to 3G so the connection is lost or the call is dropped.
Please let me know if anyone has this situation happening.
Thanks!

i have chinese oneplus one and i havent use 4g in Turkiye

Redmi 3S - Global version vs Chinise

I have a question about hardware difference between Xiaomi Redmi 3S China version and the Global one.
I thought that the only difference is the EU-plug, but I noticed this item on aliexpress with LTE B20 (800MHz) support.
I asked the seller about it and the seller insists that all of that is true.
Can someone confirm or deny this situation?

zBear said:
I have a question about hardware difference between Xiaomi Redmi 3S China version and the Global one.
I thought that the only difference is the EU-plug, but I noticed this item on aliexpress with LTE B20 (800MHz) support.
I asked the seller about it and the seller insists that all of that is true.
Can someone confirm or deny this situation?
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i don't think that there is any hardware difference
it's one device
the one with global rom , i guess it has the adapter , google services (and play) and some chinese apps removed
if you see here (with google translate)
http://www.mi.com/hk/redmi3s/specs/
you see this table
4G FDD B1/3/4/5/7/8/20
4G TDD B41
3G WCDMA B 1/2/5/8
2G GSM
B 2/3/5/8

kodorevi8ulis said:
if you see here (with google translate)
http://www.mi.com/hk/redmi3s/specs/
you see this table
4G FDD B1/3/4/5/7/8/20
4G TDD B41
3G WCDMA B 1/2/5/8
2G GSM
B 2/3/5/8
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but here you can find another information
4G FDD-LTE B3/B5 TDD-LTE B40
3G WCDMA 900MHz / 2100MHz
2G GSM 900MHz / 1800MHz
you think the software limits the LTE bands?

zBear said:
but here you can find another information
4G FDD-LTE B3/B5 TDD-LTE B40
3G WCDMA 900MHz / 2100MHz
2G GSM 900MHz / 1800MHz
you think the software limits the LTE bands?
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well the only think that i am sure is that as an european is difficult to find the "india" version
(because i know -and can buy from - only chinese stores)
also 2 band for lte is weird so i guess it's just a rom limitation or just incomplete list of specs (because it doesn't matter for India the other bands)
p.s. i don't see roms only for india , i only see china and global roms

Their hardwares should be same.

Charger different
China version don't have Google Play service+bandwidth those stuffs should be different?

so... any more infos about the 800MHz FDD-LTE support ?
anyone tried to unlock the bootloader on a chinese version and flashing a xiaomi.eu multilang rom to see if B20/800 is available ?

This is of great interest to me too. I want to buy two Redmi 3s's, but need B20 as well. If it's as easy as flashing the global/international ROM, it would save me lots of $$. Has anyone tried this and succeeded using B20 on a Chinese 3s?

I bought the international version of Redmi 3s, and the B20/800 is working! Also arrived with official global ROM

Aleks93ts said:
I bought the international version of Redmi 3s, and the B20/800 is working! Also arrived with official global ROM
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of course it works, that's the point of the international version

No it's impossible to enable. The only way is to buy the int. version

If anyone is still interested, I found 3 models of R3S
1. 2016030
Chinese version . Chinese factory ROM, manuals, box and plug.
Most common version on aliexpress.
2016030 frequencies
GSM 850, GSM 900, GSM 1800, GSM1900
UMTS 2100 (B1), UMTS 1900 (B2), UMTS 850 (B5), UMTS 900 (B8)
TD-SCDMA TD-SCDMA 2000 (B34), TD-SCDMA 1900 (B39)
FDD-LTE 2100 (B1), FDD-LTE 1800 (B3), FDD-LTE 2600 (B7)
TD-LTE 2600 (B38), TD-LTE 1900 (B39), TD-LTE 2300 (B40), TD-LTE 2500 (B41)
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2. 2016031
International version with factory global ROM, english manual, box and EU plug
2016031 frequencies
GSM 850, GSM 900, GSM 1800, GSM 1900
UMTS 2100 (B1), UMTS 1900 (B2), UMTS 850 (B5), UMTS 900 (B8)
FDD-LTE 2100 (B1), FDD-LTE 1800 (B3), FDD-LTE 1700/2100 (B4), FDD-LTE 850 (B5), FDD-LTE 2600 (B7), FDD-LTE 900 (B8), FDD-LTE 800 (B20)
TD-LTE 2500 (B41)
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3. 2016032
Indian version.
2016032 frequencies
GSM 900, GSM 1800
UMTS 2100 (B1), UMTS 900 (B8)
FDD-LTE 1800 (B3), FDD-LTE 850 (B5)
TD-LTE 2300 (B40)
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Hi
Thanks for the listing of the models.
How do I know which model I have?
Model 2016030: Critical bands missing: FDD-LTE 900 (B8), FDD-LTE 800 (B20)
Model 2016031: No missing bands
Model 2016032: Critical bands missing: UMTS 850 (B5), LTE 900 (B8), 800 (B20)
Redmi 3S Gold
Android 6.0.1 MMB29M
MIUI Global 8.1.1.0
RAM 3GB
MEM 32 GB
Baseband ENNS_PACK-1.69259.1.69863.2-V036
Kernel 3.18.20-ge45c102

Rrrr said:
How do I know which model I have?
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No. There's should not be and hardware differences until it comes to Mobile Broadband frequencies, but i think this is software dependent. As you flash Global or Chinese you choose frequencies probably. I use Global Stable with Root and some tools and it's just fine.

JakeCherry97 said:
As you flash Global or Chinese you choose frequencies probably
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no, it's not working this way
I've seen some development attempts regarding enabling missing channels, but with no success

zBear said:
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Thank you!
So I have 2016031. If the information I provided above is correct, that means I have all necessary bands for Europe.
The problem is I found different information here:
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Xiaomi: https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/redmi-3s-with-lte-b20-800mhz.33957/
2016030 is 32gb version
2016031 is 16gb version
Both without b20
https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...i-3s-4g-redmi-3s-dual-sim-td-lte-32gb-2016030
https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...i-3s-4g-redmi-3s-dual-sim-td-lte-16gb-2016031
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2016031 is 16gb version THIS IS STRANGE RIGHT, I HAVE 32GB VERSION and it is model 2016031
What is correct?
I have model 2016031 with 32Gb - do I have LTE B20 (800) and LTE B8 (900) or not?
I hope someone knows?

Rrrr said:
I have model 2016031 with 32Gb - do I have LTE B20 (800) and LTE B8 (900) or not?
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Yes, you do.
I have the same model and ROM capacity.
Look at my october post, you can find there links to official Xiaomi pages with the band availability information.
There is no information about model numbers there, but it was confirmed by many users.

Thank you for your help!
I see indeed all the bands under specifications.
I am very happy.