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Rooting when updated to 5.0.1

Hi all. I am getting my new Moto G today (XT1068) and want to have lolipop but also need root. I was wondering how I would do this? Also if I do manage to get root while on 5.0.1 can I use OTA to 5.0.2 or would I need to un-root first? I am new to rooting so I'd like the easiest way possible, thanks for your time!

Hello,
I'd like to say hello to everyone and BIG thanks for the community as a whole. This place is pure awesomeness.
I've got similiar question to OP. Got the retaildsdsall xt1068, haven't unlocked or rooted before and I'm currently on 5.0.2, 22.21.28.titan_retaildsds.retaildsdsall.en.03 reteu
I've been on retaildsdsall and upgraded using to newly captured OTA zip from SOAK for the xt1068, by copying it to the root of sd and upgrading using normal ota updater.
Everything went fine!
My question is, what is the most reliable way to root my device?
Is there any possibility to root without having to unlock? Will Chainfire's autoroot[dot]chainfire[dot]eu work for me? I read that there is a version which is ok for Lollipop, updated by Chainfire, but I can't seem to find it or confirm that it'll work.
Please shed some light on to that. Any experiences?

Hi @Reizoko & @Silent_Infiltrator
1. You have to unlock Bootloader to Root.
2. Install TWRP Recovery
3. Download and Flash latest BETA of SuperSU v2.44
Thats all
Note: You can't use OTA to update while rooted. You have to do a full unroot.

KrishnaSagar said:
Hi @Reizoko & @Silent_Infiltrator
1. You have to unlock Bootloader to Root.
2. Install TWRP Recovery
3. Download and Flash latest BETA of SuperSU v2.44
Thats all
Note: You can't use OTA to update while rooted. You have to do a full unroot.
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Right, seems easy enough. I guess I'll wait with stock unrooted until a bug-free version of 5.0 is out, will be good to make sure phone is all right aswell...

Silent_Infiltrator said:
Right, seems easy enough. I guess I'll wait with stock unrooted until a bug-free version of 5.0 is out, will be good to make sure phone is all right aswell...
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Well, the Brazil Soak Test version of Lollipop is really smooth and Bug Free, the Indian version.. Not so much! If you want to try Lollipop, I would recommend the Brazil Soak Test.

Hey
Just wanted to give quick heads-up on to the matter of rooting 5.0.2. Thanks for the tips, I did it as follows:
1. Got my European Moto G xt1068 (dual-sim version) updated to 5.0.2 using captured OTA zip here.
2. Unlocked my bootloader by following official Motorola guide.
3. Downloaded newest TWRP 2.8.4.0 from Original Development.
4. Used Fastboot to only boot TWRP by executing: fastboot boot twrp.img
5. Flashed newest SuperSU 2.44.
6. Enjoying root.
Thanks!

KrishnaSagar said:
Well, the Brazil Soak Test version of Lollipop is really smooth and Bug Free, the Indian version.. Not so much! If you want to try Lollipop, I would recommend the Brazil Soak Test.
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Why the hell are you telling him to install a xt1069 over xt1068? Tell me onde thing, but are you on drugs or dont have a clue about you are talking about? Never, but never install a version that is not designed for your phone version. Before you post such thing, please do some research or dont say anything.
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ggunzio said:
Why the hell are you telling him to install a xt1069 over xt1068? Tell me onde thing, but are you on drugs or dont have a clue about you are talking about? Never, but never install a version that is not designed for your phone version. Before you post such thing, please do some research or dont say anything.
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You do your research. Did you even go through the Moto G 2014 forums??? Read through and then post.

ggunzio said:
Why the hell are you telling him to install a xt1069 over xt1068? Tell me onde thing, but are you on drugs or dont have a clue about you are talking about? Never, but never install a version that is not designed for your phone version. Before you post such thing, please do some research or dont say anything.
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KrishnaSagar said:
You do your research. Did you even go through the Moto G 2014 forums??? Read through and then post.
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Krishna is not wrong as the XT1068 and 69 are pretty much the same. Only difference is the modems and radios I believe.

Android The Greek said:
Krishna is not wrong as the XT1068 and 69 are pretty much the same. Only difference is the modems and radios I believe.
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So they are different... Custom ROMs can work on both, but not original ROMs.
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ggunzio said:
So they are different... Custom ROMs can work on both, but not original ROMs.
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Yes

Android The Greek said:
Yes
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Do your research then... Kakakakak
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ggunzio said:
Do your research then... Kakakakak
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I speak out of experience. I installed the XT1069 Lolipop 5.0,5.0.1 and no probs at all. I followed the methods posted in this forum.
I was not giving a vague advice.

Android The Greek said:
Krishna is not wrong as the XT1068 and 69 are pretty much the same. Only difference is the modems and radios I believe.
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The most notable difference is the digital tv support for the XT1069

moto e official lollipop 5.0.2

as motorola has started pushing official moto e 5.0.2 ota...anyone who got it , please upload the ota.

m also waiting for that!
currently using soak test version!

love4chat said:
m also waiting for that!
currently using soak test version!
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I dont Think The soak test version is different from the update motorolla has pushed...
"d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1425799/official-android-5-0-2-lollipop-ota-update-hits-motorola-moto-e-brazil-india.jpg"
The screenshot in the above link is supposed to be the update motorolla has recently pushed...
The version no of the soak test is same as in the screenshot...
22.21.32.en.03

Not yet in Europe (the Netherlands) on unbranded E.

I got the official update (5.0.2) 22.21.32.en.03 I have pulled it from /cache . Will upload it soon
EDIT: The official update and the soak test update both have the same MD5 hash. Looks like nothing was changed. Not gonna bother to upload it. If you guys want to update to the official update, flash the soak test. It is exactly the same.

chemicalrage said:
I got the official update (5.0.2) 22.21.32.en.03 I have pulled it from /cache . Will upload it soon
EDIT: The official update and the soak test update both have the same MD5 hash. Looks like nothing was changed. Not gonna bother to upload it. If you guys want to update to the official update, flash the soak test. It is exactly the same.
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so moto didnt listened to any reports by soak taste users...and its not even 5.1//.....bad..
but are you sure its the ota?or you got the notification because you have that zip in your internal?as moto have nto yet updated the update tracker page!!
https://motorola-mobility-en-in.cus...nJWQWdRNmdtIiwic2Vzc2lvbklEIjoiclZBZ1E2Z20ifQ..

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so moto didnt listened to any reports by soak taste users...and its not even 5.1//.....bad..
but are you sure its the ota?or you got the notification because you have that zip in your internal?as moto have nto yet updated the update tracker page!!
https://motorola-mobility-en-in.cus...nJWQWdRNmdtIiwic2Vzc2lvbklEIjoiclZBZ1E2Z20ifQ..
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I think you r right.. If update live.. . All members will rush to this forum to inform LoL

-Adarsh- said:
so moto didnt listened to any reports by soak taste users...and its not even 5.1//.....bad..
but are you sure its the ota?or you got the notification because you have that zip in your internal?as moto have nto yet updated the update tracker page!!
https://motorola-mobility-en-in.cus...nJWQWdRNmdtIiwic2Vzc2lvbklEIjoiclZBZ1E2Z20ifQ..
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Yes. I received the notification. Its an official update and it is the same file. I dint have the soak test zip in my sd card. I pulled it from /cache

chemicalrage said:
Yes. I received the notification. Its an official update and it is the same file. I dint have the soak test zip in my sd card. I pulled it from /cache
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then why didnt we all got it?and why isnt the update page updated...its saying that the update is under testing

Britain not updated yet
I have Moto E from UK and no update :/
Anyone guessing how it will take to come update in Europe?
Btw don't understand that soak test update or whatever it is... Can anyone explain it slowly to a total noob?

Mondop said:
I have Moto E from UK and no update :/
Anyone guessing how it will take to come update in Europe?
Btw don't understand that soak test update or whatever it is... Can anyone explain it slowly to a total noob?
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I don't think that Official update or Soak test both are diffrent thing Soak test hav no bug to solve yeah its little laggy but its fine smooth and stable and its the final

Indrajeet Singh said:
I don't think that Official update or Soak test both are diffrent thing Soak test hav no bug to solve yeah its little laggy but its fine smooth and stable and its the final
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so its like OTA but its just manually installed. Isnt it just installation taken from OTA in brazil/India?
btw, where and how can i istall it then ?

U wanna use Soak test if yes then i will guide you
and i am using XT1022 Indian version of Moto E

U wanna use Soak test if yes then i will guide you
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are there any disadvatiges over OTA?
if no, will klike to install it and im happy you will guide me
i have already rooted motorola, Stock Rom,
BUT i have Model XT1021
and UK version

No actually Soak test for the limited Users whom they Registerd themselves for the Sock test not for the All users
So we still Wait when we get Official update from motorola if u not want to wait u can flash Soak test manually its very easy
that's great u hav already rooted ur device u shoud hav PC official motorola drivers installed in ur PC minimal ADB if u hav these thing tell me
i'll tell u the further process

Let me tell u easy way..place zip in ext sd crd and chck fr updt
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soak test is an ota update sent to a limited number of voluntary users to test for the feasibility of the update (to make sure it will be received well by all the users)

Indrajeet Singh said:
No actually Soak test for the limited Users whom they Registerd themselves for the Sock test not for the All users
So we still Wait when we get Official update from motorola if u not want to wait u can flash Soak test manually its very easy
that's great u hav already rooted ur device u shoud hav PC official motorola drivers installed in ur PC minimal ADB if u hav these thing tell me
i'll tell u the further process
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all of them i have
but one more question... you said you still waitin fro official update.... So is Soak test final or there is some bugs etc that OTA hasnt... aand if i install soak test, will i be able to update OTA in anyway?

Indrajeet Singh said:
U wanna use Soak test if yes then i will guide you
and i am using XT1022 Indian version of Moto E
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we have the soak test ota captured here on xda.
i was just wondering if the official lollipop for moto e is any different from the soak test.

I don't think so that soak test or official update is diffrent thing
They both have same version same MD5
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Bro lemme clear something to you u really knw what's the exactly mean of soak test its a release from the moto for some of there users to get feedback about the release if soak test hav any bug or somthing they will make bug free and there after release the final update and for all users not for the limited one only its just a Test build but soak test haven't any bug so they don't need to do anything further so they release the official update for all and the official update version and MD5 same as soak test there is only name's confusion nothing else one is soak test release and other one is official update but both are same and its my own thinking

Will Motorola provide an update to Marshmallow?

Since some variants of Moto E still didn't get the 5.1 update, Do you think Motorola is planning to update directly to Marshmallow ?

I would hope so
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I think it's easier for them to prepare an update from a single version, so if guess they'd update everything to 5.1 or 5.11 then to m
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it won't be direct update for sure, It will get 6.0 but we will have to wait a long time

Its a recently released device. Its highly unlikely not to get a direct ota update on android 6.0

At this rate we might get a stable custom ROM of marshmallow before we get the official update :laugh:

Official M is likely to come, because device is rather new, And Surnia device already has the 5.1 update (at least in some countries) or only US?
or are Motorola Europe waiting for android M instead of continuing pushing 5.1 release

rushabshah32 said:
At this rate we might get a stable custom ROM of marshmallow before we get the official update :laugh:
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At what rate they haven't even released it yet????
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nobreak1970 said:
At what rate they haven't even released it yet????
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I mean the rate in which the developers are making progress to build stable roms for this phone here in xda (cm12.1,RR,PAC etc).
Reading http://www.xda-developers.com/hello-moto-what-are-you-doing-an-opinion-on-motorolas-transformations/ I'm sure we'll get a custom marshmallow rom before the official update (if there is any).
LastStandingDroid said:
Official M is likely to come, because device is rather new, And Surnia device already has the 5.1 update (at least in some countries) or only US?
or are Motorola Europe waiting for android M instead of continuing pushing 5.1 release
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AFAIK only XT1526 to 1529 have received the 5.1 update

rushabshah32 said:
I mean the rate in which the developers are making progress to build stable roms for this phone here in xda (cm12.1,RR,PAC etc).
Reading http://www.xda-developers.com/hello-moto-what-are-you-doing-an-opinion-on-motorolas-transformations/ I'm sure we'll get a custom marshmallow rom before the official update (if there is any).
AFAIK only XT1526 to 1529 have received the 5.1 update
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as i said motorola might not release the 5.1 for 3G variant or?

Okay. We're not getting it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3216162
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F Lenovo.
Edit: F Verizon for not wanting to do it. This is the real reason.
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The worst part is when they released the Moto E2 it ended up being a lie.
"And while other smartphones in this category don't always support upgrades, we won't forget about you, and we'll make sure your Moto E stays up to date after you buy it."
-Magno Herran, Marketing Manager for Moto E (2nd Gen.), February 25th, 2015.
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Edit #2 The Moto blog doesn't say that we definitely won't get it.
They basically say this is the 100% yes list.
http://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2015/10/marshmallow-and-smore.html?m=1
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Wow, so it only gets 1 incremental update & 1 stage fright patch? The phone literally released in 2015, yet it has achieved EOL only a few months after it's released, surely this is just a joke...even the Moto G features the same SD410 so there's no excuse.

Ace42 said:
so there's no excuse.
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There is excuse, it's called price

I've been thinking about this. I wonder if they're just getting done variants first because it become their priority and their new business model. It doesn't necessarily mean they're going to leave us all in the dark on the carriers. They also did have the disclaimer on the web page that its all subject to change. I'm going to hold off on my rage a little bit and see what happens.
To be honest the only thing I'm interested in in marshmallow is Google on tap.
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The Moto G 2013 saw official support from 4.3 to 5.1 ... I guess Lenovo is likely going to push a 3rd gen E that's keeping in line with the design of the current series.
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I'd imagine we will probably get M eventually. I just don't think Motorola wanted to commit to the update until it had the source code and could verify it would run fine on a device this low spec'd.

nobreak1970 said:
To be honest the only thing I'm interested in in marshmallow is Google on tap.
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Same here.. I wonder what's so special about marshmallow that makes -now on tap- to not work in lollipop
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rushabshah32 said:
Same here.. I wonder what's so special about marshmallow that makes -now on tap- to not work in lollipop
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Well we're not on Motos list...devices that weren't on the list for 5.X never received it. Source was pushed to AOSP on the 5th...I think its a entry level/disposable device in their eyes and they're looking to the next gen already. But to be fair they guaranteed "1" update and I guess that was 5.0.2 to 5.1...
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Already got burned with the Atrix 4G when they left it on 2.3. Gave Moto another chance with the E 2015, never again.

Will Moto G4+ with SOAK test Nougat, get the official OTA update to Nougat?

The title basically explains my question, I have a moto g4+ with the soak test Nougat installed but I see some discrepancies in it such as the lack of nougat icons. I wanna know if the final nougat build update will be available for those of us with the soak test Nougat. Of course I don't expect people to know the answer to my question so your opinion is what I want.
Cheers

opa1997 said:
The title basically explains my question, I have a moto g4+ with the soak test Nougat installed but I see some discrepancies in it such as the lack of nougat icons. I wanna know if the final nougat build update will be available for those of us with the soak test Nougat. Of course I don't expect people to know the answer to my question so your opinion is what I want.
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Why not, if it's available and can be sideloaded like soak test or as intended via ota

Probably side loaded only, not OTA.

SoNic67 said:
Probably side loaded only, not OTA.
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So flashing the same version of Android as is on the device is not a problem? Because the soak test and the final build will both be Android 7.0

opa1997 said:
So flashing the same version of Android as is on the device is not a problem? Because the soak test and the final build will both be Android 7.0
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It rewrites the partitions like any other update, so don't worry

So would I need to downgrade to stock MM first? That's my main question.

bobthesalesclerk said:
So would I need to downgrade to stock MM first? That's my main question.
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What was your other question??? You didn't ask before as I wrote in the post above, I don't think cause when you side load it there's no need to downgrade first and if it's 100% possible with ota... We will see

Help Soak To OTA N XT1643

Hello I flashed the NPJ-25.75-2 soak because everyone told me that I would get OTA but, now that the OTA is out I'm not getting OTA what to do ??

Downgrade to marshmallow then u can get the ota

gamer96 said:
Downgrade to marshmallow then u can get the ota
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Don't want downgrade is there any alternative

no options .
there are minor changes like moto animation and some others in OTA . i have tried both one
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Psy'Ed said:
Hello I flashed the NPJ-25.75-2 soak because everyone told me that I would get OTA but, now that the OTA is out I'm not getting OTA what to do ??
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They didn't tell that you here. Downgrade or live with it.
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parth00790 said:
no options .
there are minor changes like moto animation and some others in OTA . i have tried both one
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OK is there any way to root soak N . With locked bootloader

no way . unlock bootloader
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wait for next upgrate. you will get it on soak test
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I have tried to warn you people, but was "drown" by people that said it didn't matter:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/nougat-failed-os-t3526207
Take it with them now and ask them how come you will have to give up your warranty... by unlocking the bootloader.
Or wait for an update that you will not get OTA (since you are not officially on the list of phones that received soak ).

Psy'Ed said:
OK is there any way to root soak N . With locked bootloader
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You can not root with a locked bootloader,.

SoNic67 said:
I have tried to warn you people, but was "drown" by people that said it didn't matter:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/nougat-failed-os-t3526207
Take it with them now and ask them how come you will have to give up your warranty... by unlocking the bootloader.
Or wait for an update that you will not get OTA (since you are not officially on the list of phones that received soak ).
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Yup I should have listened to people like you & not A

Tel864 said:
You can not root with a locked bootloader,.
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My question is . Is it possible to unlock The bootloader on soak N because doesn't the soak change the bootloader also? That much you should have figured out by yourself.

Psy'Ed said:
Don't want downgrade is there any alternative
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wait until we get stock nougat firmware later u can flash it through adb :good:

gamer96 said:
wait until we get stock nougat firmware later u can flash it through adb :good:
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OK will wait . ?Thanks

why are you being so hype. ??
just relax bro nothing have changed in official ota ( just boot animation saying ' hello Moto ' )
wait for next update ????
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Soak test having bug in finger print
Finger print having problem while adding more than 2 finger, even unable to delete all finger print. hope moto release full nogat firmware asap and all youtube blogger went silent who have said that after flashing this firmware you will get official ota. RIP those bloggers.

you may have some other issues .
i have used for a week and i dont find any bugs in that file.
and it was official soak test unofficially leaked ???
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