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Can somebody please upload the backup of the aboot partition before & after unlocking the bootloader?? You can use any available method to backup e.g this one.
The procedure needs root permission, so you need to be rooted without bootloader unlocking first.
I just got my friend's phone, so I have the required backup. Thread can be closed now.
I have started tinkering with it & will publish my findings ASAP.
BTW, it looks like YUREKA doesn't support hot-booting non-signed recovery images as shown in this article.
Shameless advert: Why did I require the backup?
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Hello Everyone
I understand that many of the users have tough time rooting their device and thus I have decided to look into Rooting using Exploit method over USB commands rather than flashing ROM. I would just look into what could be done as there are few differences between Z3 Compact device series but all use the same Snapdragon 801. This guide is intended for UNLOCKED & LOCKED BOOTLOADER. Make sure you check each method if it supports locked/unlocked bootloader or not. In case it is not mentioned, it is to be understood that it supports locked bootloader as well. However, if the method fails, please provide feedback and also update SuperSU in the script files.
All Credits to the developers for their tools!
HTML:
I take no responsibility for world wars, broken phones, flying machines,
UFO invasions, bricked phones, dead sd card . If you agree to go ahead with this,
it is your choice and no blame should come to any developer/contributor whatsoever
PREREQUISITE
-USB DEBUGGING
For this guide to work, make sure usb debugging is enabled.
Go to Settings> About>Build Number> tap it 7 times and "Developer Options" should appear in settings.
In Developer Options> Enable USB Debugging.
-USB DRIVERS
For these I suggest use Flashtool. However if you still have problem. I would update a guide for that as well
http://www.flashtool.net/index.php
METHOD 1 (Kitkat/Lollipop. Unlocked/Locked Bootloaders)
1.Download latest SuperSU from HERE
2.Place supersu in your sd card
3.Install recovery from the link HERE and use the method as stated in the thread.
4.Once booted into recovery, flash supersu.zip. Make sure it is 2.37 or above for LP.
5.Done
Check FAQ 1
How to make a TA backup.
1. Download the latest version of Backup TA from here DOWNLOAD HERE
2. Extract the ZIP file to a folder location of your choosing.
3. Navigate to the folder location of Backup TA.
4. Make sure no other script or application which is using ADB is running.
5. Make sure the device is booted in normal mode (the way you normally use it).
6. Run Backup-TA.bat
7. Read the last paragraph of the license before continuing.
8. Read the information and follow the instructions given by the tool.
Someone pointed out that the script needs root to work.
UNLOCK bootloader from Official Website
http://developer.sonymobile.com/unlockbootloader/unlock-yourboot-loader/
Please note! It will only be possible to unlock the boot loader for certain releases of this model. You can check if it is possible to unlock the boot loader of your device by checking the service menu.
Open the Contacts app.
Click the menu button in the top right.
Click Settings.
Long press (for about 5 seconds) somewhere in the empty space just above soft key bar, and then release your finger. A button named Enter service code will then appear in the same area (this may take a few tries).
Click Enter service code. A dialler will appear.
Enter *#*#7378423#*#* in the dialler.
Tap Service info > Configuration > Rooting Status. If Bootloader unlock allowed says Yes, then you can continue with the next step. If it says No, or if the status is missing, your device cannot be unlocked(bootloader).
If your bootloader can be unlocked, proceed to the above website and follow the on screen instructions. You do not need to download full adb , just download the platform tools attached with this guide.
Once you have working drivers, unlock bootloader, made backups and have usb enabled, you can proceed to the actual rooting process.
Backs are highly recommended but not a must .
There are a few methods due to differences in devices and one might work on all, one or none. The methods are arranged in preferred order but not necessarily to work in the same order.
METHOD 2: Kitkat Unlocked Bootloader
Download boot.img from attachment
unlock bootloader via Sony
Flash boot.img via flashtool or fastboot commands
METHOD#3
Use Kingo Root app
Enable USB debugging and run the application.
Download from here
http://www.kingoapp.com/
You can use apk file as well but PC method is more effective.
METHOD 4
CHINESE METHOD
http://www.mgyun.com/en/GetVRoot
KingUser be installed.
Install SuperSU from market and replace Kinguser with SuperSU in SuperSU options
METHOD 5
Run kingo and Vroot at the same time using a PC!
At times this works with few devices
ROOT CHECKER BASIC FROM PLAYSTORE to check if you have root.
Credits
zxz0O0 for rootkit
If you think I have missed your name and you deserve to be in the list, please do not hesitate to inbox and I would gladly update it.
Reserved FAQ
FAQ 1
If you do not wish to flash recovery and only want to gain root. Use boot command instead of flash. Or delete files as stated in the recovery guide
I have an error/question!
stuck at cleaning up
Close the tool and run again.
.
error: more than one device or emulator
Check if you have installed any windows android emulater like bluestacks etc
.
stuck at Waiting for device
Make sure device is connected
Make sure USB-debugging is enabled
Make sure no Sony PC Companion or other Sony software is running
Make sure you have adb drivers installed
Make sure the computer is permanently authorized for connection on the phone (you get a dialog the first time you connect)
.[*]How to unroot?
Flash factory firmware in flashtool. Exclude everything except system. No need to wipe anything.
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[*]Will I keep root after factory reset?
Yes
"PREREQUISITE : USB DEBUGGING + USB DRIVERS"
"Firstly I suggest you make a full backup of your applications/data especially TA backup."
As you make a backup of TA without root?
Backup TA -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598
Q: Do I need root for this?
A: Yes, you do need root for both backup and restore to work. I would advice to use @DooMLoRD's excellent Easy Rooting Toolkit for this, when not already rooted.
kvi said:
"PREREQUISITE : USB DEBUGGING + USB DRIVERS"
"Firstly I suggest you make a full backup of your applications/data especially TA backup."
As you make a backup of TA without root?
Backup TA -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292598
Q: Do I need root for this?
A: Yes, you do need root for both backup and restore to work. I would advice to use @DooMLoRD's excellent Easy Rooting Toolkit for this, when not already rooted.
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Thank you so much for your feedback. The guide is still in process and I would make necessary changes as well once it is completed.
Making TA is a suggestion and NOT by any means a step to the process. I am going to work a bit as it needs editing at places
UPDATE :
Guide updated
waichai said:
Hi Hnk1,
Sorry bothering you.
I have read so many threads on xda, and they all have too many steps and risk. I found your thread is simple and easiest to follow.
I have read your thread from http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-tablet-compact/general/root-flashing-construction-t3091763
My device: SGP621 (LTE version) Build number 23.1.A.0.167 Kitkat 4.4.4. Bootloader is Locked.
I would like to root and TA backup. Can I just follow these step from your tutorial below? Thanks.
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Firstly always quote me in the right forum and NEVER ASK me questions in PM. If you next time do it, I will simply ignore.
Well, The recovery clearly states it works for your device so go ahead and flash it.
Hnk1 said:
Firstly always quote me in the right forum and NEVER ASK me questions in PM. If you next time do it, I will simply ignore.
Well, The recovery clearly states it works for your device so go ahead and flash it.
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I apologize for the PM. I should have read your signature. Thank you for your reply.
I am on 4.4.4 and 23.0.1.A.0.167. I tried method 1,3,5 and none of them works, i thinks it's because of the 23.0.1.A.0.167 is not rootable using the exploit method ?
-Zeta- said:
I am on 4.4.4 and 23.0.1.A.0.167. I tried method 1,3,5 and none of them works, i thinks it's because of the 23.0.1.A.0.167 is not rootable using the exploit method ?
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I suggest you try the Chinese method. I rooted with that but download the Chinese version because it's 1.83 while English version stands at 1.78
Noob question... unlocking bootloader will make me lose DRM right?
Lrclaros said:
Noob question... unlocking bootloader will make me lose DRM right?
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It is wise to make @ backup. However, I have always unlocked my boot loader via official Sony website and never had any problems even without a TA backup.
Good luck
Guide updated and changes made!
I have unlocked bootloader, by oficiall way (Sony site). Phone is full reseted now. Can I back all data, whole system? I've made backup of all on the internal mem with TRWP. Will everything works normaly after that?
So if I access the service menu in the root section it says I cannot unlock the bootloader.
Is there a way to do so through unofficial means?
I did backup my TA so I just need to be able to do that :/
So far I'm unable to unlock the bootloader and never upload a custom recovery.
My model is D6603 with version 6.x of Android OS.
Is the capacity to to unlock the Bootloader bound to the android version?
I heard that I could root the phone if I downgrade to an older OS version and then do it... anybody can confirm?
For those with any trouble and that can't flash twrp, a full procedure for injecting TWRP into the kernel is here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74528751&postcount=22
Hi all,
I'm happy to share with you an updated guide on how to root the Xperia XA and Ultra, big thanks to @luis1981 for the update.
This guide is Only for Marshmallow (Android 6.0), for Nougat (Android 7.0) it's here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xa/how-to/f31xx-how-to-root-xperia-xa-noob-t3638727
## How to root the Sony Xperia XA
The Sony Xperia XA is a midrange smartphone with a bezeless design. It has adequate specs and run Android aptly. These aspects make this phone a great daily driver, however the Sony stock Android is plagued with trashware and all the hurdles Android itself has several privacy problems.
By rooting the phone one can circumvent these limitations. You will be able to install the Xposed framework, improve sound with Viper4Android, block hosts, install dns-crypt and improve overall customability. In the follwing sections I will present the steps to root your phone.
But before proceeding a word of caution (or why you wouldn't like to root your phone):
1. Unlocking your BootLoader will void your warranty, break your device DRM and lose X-Reality and image optimisation on low light when taking pictures, I found a workaround here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/xperia-z1-z2-z3-series-devices-drm-t2930672, use zip for Z3+ devices.
2. You can save your DRM keys (TA backup) by following this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/universal-dirtycow-based-ta-backup-t3514236. You have to do it BEFORE unlocking the bootloader, for now you can't restore your backup.
3. You can re-lock your phone but it will not restore DRM
4. Unlocking your bootloader will wipe the device (factory reset)
5. If you have confidential files in your phone don't unlock your bootloader, as long as your phone is locked your data are officially secured.
## Method
1. Find out whether if you bootloader is unlocked, which is needed to proceed. Type: *#*#7378423#*#* then choose Service info ---> Configuration ---> Check for "Bootloader unlock allowed: Yes". At this point if the phone has No or any other answer at the screen you shouldn't porceed as rooting will be impossible.
2. Download XA ADB and Fastboot drivers: https://developer.sonymobile.com/downloads/drivers/
3. Download FLASHTOOL with integrated Xperifirm 0.9.22.3 for Windows, note that you can also use it to unlock your bootloader(http://www.flashtool.net/downloads_windows.php)
4. Follow the official Sony instructions for getting the unlock code from [here](https://developer.sonymobile.com/unlockbootloader/). Further paste the code in BLU menu of Flashtool. You can also find video instructions [here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lKWd5LlUoA).
5. Root Your Stock Rom with TWRP and in order to do that you will need the proper files for your phone version:
SuperSu zip package for all XA: http://www.supersu.com/download
For XA single sim = F3111, F3113, F3115
TWRP recovery: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xa/development/f3111-f3113-f3115-twrp-recovery-xa-t3606488
Boot: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xp...3111-f3113-f3115-stock-kernels-built-t3573119
For XA dual sim = F3112,F3116
TWRP recovery: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xp...3112-f3116-twrp-recovery-xa-dual-sim-t3606232
Boot: https://forum.xda-developers.com/xp...12-f3116-stock-kernels-built-sources-t3526496
6. Copy SuperSu zip package on your MicroSD.
7. Enter the phone in Fastboot mode (when power off, hold Vol+ and plug the phone). The led should be blue.
8. Flash recovery and boot with "fastboot flash boot boot.img" and "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img" commands (rename downloaded boot/recovery image if needed). The simplest way is to use fastboot from Flashtool in x10flasher folder, copy recovery and boot in it, open command prompt, flash them and then delete them.
9. Unplug the phone, hold "Vol-" and "Power" buttons. Release all buttons after phone vibrate.
10. You are in TWRP recovery, on password prompt press "Cancel"
11. On next screen press "Swipe to allow".
12. Go to "Install", "Select Storage", click "Micro SDCard". Optionally, you can format "userdata" partition now and remove internal encrytion for restoring TWRP backups/acces of /data partition, go to "wipe" and tap "format data".
13. Go to your SuperSu zip directory and click on it to install. Optionally, If you want to flash Xposed, DRM fix or any flashable zip, repeat the previous step for each zip. You can mount your SD to PC in TWRP for easy access.
14. Reboot the phone, during init the phone will reboot one more time.
15. Your phone is rooted
You can optionally switch from SuperSu to Magisk by following this guide:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xa/how-to/guide-how-to-install-magisk-xperia-xa-t3555911
## Conclusion
After these steps your phone should be rooted and you will be able to have root access to the system. This tutorial comes with no garanties that it will work and the author does not take any responsibility for you bricking your device. Also, installing third party files are a security liability, you should be aware of that. Despite these issues, rooting the Xperia XA has been confirmed to work in all models.
Note that this the guide is the same for XA Ultra, the only differences are the boot/recovery files. You can find files for XA Ultra in their respective forums.
## Old guide with video
Hi all
As requested I make a "how to" video to be more noob friendly, the video is probably not perfect and my English too but I do my best to be understandable to all
PLEASE READ
I'm not a dev and I have no responsability if you flash my files.
As said in the video you must wipe "userdata" partition when flashing IF your phone memory IS crypted or if you don't know the uncrypt password, someone on the web speak of "default password" but what is it ?? If cryped (with no password) you can't backup /data and can't mount internal memory in TWRP. You can manually enable encryption and be able to set YOUR OWN password, but you can't revert back. And in theory you can make full nandroid backup and mount /data partition when in TWRP but can't mount inernal memory.
Regarding mounting /system rw in TWRP, seen on other tuto, you must never "swipe to allow modification" when prompted, after installing root package /system is mounted rw with no problem (look at "mount" menu). EDIT: tested on my device without issues but be careful.
IF YOU UPDATE OR FLASH STOCK BOOT and power on the device to Android, it will encrypt again the internal memory and if you shutdown the device before the end (xperia screen for hours) it will corrupt your data, not the SD card).
For futur, if you want to update, ask me and will release modified boot. I don't know what it does if you update stock after setting password encryption :/
Why I changed that by replacing "FORCENCRYPT" by "ENCRYPTABLE" in fstab Boot:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015...-mandatory-device-encryption-for-new-devices/
and
http://www.androidcentral.com/inside-marshmallow-adoptable-storage
Before continue, you must understand that unlocking your BootLoader will void your warranty, break your device DRM and lose X-Reality and image optimisation on low light when taking pictures (seen some workaround but not for XA).
You can't re-lock your phone and it will not restore DRM.
If you have confidentials files in your phone don't unlock your bootloader, as long as your phone is locked your data are officially secured.
This will be repeated when following Sony step by step guide. YOU ARE AWARE !
To verify bootloader lock state after unlock, on phone dialer:
*#*#7378423#*#* ---> Service info ---> Configuration ---> Check for "Bootloader unlocked: Yes" IT MUST BE YES !!!
By rooting your phone you will be able to install/uninstall system apps, install Xposed framework (Gravity Box, Dark Pokemon Go,...) or Viper4Android for an awesome sound! You can tweak and mod your phone deeper (battery,CPU,...), build and flash custom ROMs and many other things
If you have problems or want to unroot you can flash stock firmware like in the video with Flashtool, no need to wipe userdata.
Please watch my video one time before begin, to understand what you have to do.
Free to you to distribute or modify my files but please link this thread as source.
BY FOLLOWING THIS GUIDE YOUR PHONE WILL PERFORM A FACTORY RESET WHEN UNLOCKING BL ( it will not format SD card) , MAKE BACKUPS !
Edit 3/08/2016: Found a workaround for Sony DRM function restoration for UB devices based on Z line and working on XA Please read the thread, download package zip for Xperia Z3+ and install it with TWRP, that's all! I recommend you to install it just after SuperSU zip package (working too if not doing this). Thanks to @jimRnor
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/xperia-z1-z2-z3-series-devices-drm-t2930672
EDIT 13/08/2016: TWRP is 99% working (can't wipe /cache), you can do all as you want, as long as no encrypted partition is present or locked.
Let's begin!
YOU NEED:
My first video guide : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnOoLo31ka0
MP4 offline video download: https://mega.nz/#!RlwVSAKC!6lTBZxVnLQ-Mxz8er0_dg1r36dCNnUWIq8lEUfSp4Zw
Download XA ADB drivers, all models for Windows
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/drivers/Xperia_XA_driver.zip
Download XA Fastboot drivers, all models for Windows (if needed, installation is same as ADB drivers in video)
http://developer.sonymobile.com/downloads/drivers/fastboot-driver/
Download FLASHTOOL with integrated Xperifirm 0.9.22.3 for Windows
http://www.flashtool.net/downloads_windows.php
(if needed you can unlock bootloader with it, I unlocked my device with it)
Just follow official way and when you get the unlock code, paste it in BLU menu of Flashtool. (faster way)
The step by step guide to unlock BootLoader by official way:
http://developer.sonymobile.com/unlockbootloader/unlock-yourboot-loader/
Video (not mine): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lKWd5LlUoA
(Just select Xperia XA when asked)
Now depending the firmware you want to root ( the one you downloaded with Xperifirm) choose your rootpack:
For XA single sim (33.2.A.x.xx) = F3111, F3113, F3115
33.2.A.x.x: https://mega.nz/#!ZsQhwbTC!rvw437H0ZujR5Ic02Rhlap6fQ4sLLyPmSRjyfZlMFiU
For XA dual sim (33.2.B.x.xx) = F3112,F3116
33.2.B.x.x: https://mega.nz/#!xgoXxBTa!DKAwKELVs0UvkZN0X53ZVM7I4U_XnCgG73RswzMPUi0
EDIT 29/11:
I see some users who ask without searching (a very little) before, PM messages inclued, some others who spam threads not related to their problem or create new thread for nothing and who do not know what politeness is at all . Until now I was nice and answered them but now I will change that, NO MORE HELP FOR THAT KIND OF USER !!!
Now if you have no answer from me you will know why.
Good luck
Many thanks for the effort mate. Will try it.
Btw, what is the bug with google store and user data, right after root.
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01/039/2016 11:39:08 - ERROR - Processing of boot.sin finished with errors. As u said data wipe is needed when unlocking the bl, but i have my BL unlocked earlier without data wiped...so i started the flash method ,on my old version of flashtool.Now i have the newest version, so got to try it...or i should skip the flash and go to root step...
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01/006/2016 13:06:39 - INFO - Ending flash session
01/006/2016 13:06:39 - INFO - Flashing finished.
For this phone use the newest version of flashtool.
Edit3: I need to enter some kind of password on boot menu.Now what ?
rrvuhpg said:
Hi all
As requested I make a "how to" video to be more noob friendly, the video is probably not perfect and my English too but I do my best to be understandable to all
PLEASE READ
I'm not a dev and I have no responsability if you flash my files.
As said in the video you must wipe "userdata" partition when flashing IF your phone memory IS crypted or if you don't know the uncrypt password, someone on the web speak of "default password" but what is it ?? If cryped (with no password) you can't backup /data and can't mount internal memory in TWRP. You can manually enable encryption and be able to set YOUR OWN password, but you can't revert back. And in theory you can make full nandroid backup and mount /data partition when in TWRP but can't mount inernal memory.
Regarding mounting /system rw in TWRP, seen on other tuto, you must never "swipe to allow modification" when prompted, after installing root package /system is mounted rw with no problem (look at "mount" menu).
IF YOU UPDATE OR FLASH STOCK BOOT and power on the device to Android, it will encrypt again the internal memory and if you shutdown the device before the end (xperia screen for hours) it will corrupt your data, not the SD card).
For futur, if you want to update, ask me and will release modified boot. I don't know what it does if you update stock after setting password encryption :/
Why I changed that by replacing "FORCENCRYPT" by "ENCRYPTABLE" in fstab Boot:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015...-mandatory-device-encryption-for-new-devices/
and
http://www.androidcentral.com/inside-marshmallow-adoptable-storage
Before continue, you must understand that unlocking your BootLoader will void your warranty, break your device DRM and lose X-Reality and image optimisation on low light when taking pictures (seen some workaround but not for XA).
You can't re-lock your phone and it will not restore DRM.
If you have confidentials files in your phone don't unlock your bootloader, as long as your phone is locked your data are officially secured.
This will be repeated when following Sony step by step guide. YOU ARE AWARE !
To verify bootloader lock state after unlock, on phone dialer:
*#*#7378423#*#* ---> Service info ---> Configuration ---> Check for "Bootloader unlocked: Yes" IT MUST BE YES !!!
By rooting your phone you will be able to install/uninstall system apps, install Xposed framework (Gravity Box, Dark Pokemon Go,...) or Viper4Android for an awesome sound! You can tweak and mod your phone deeper (battery,CPU,...), build and flash custom ROMs and many other things
If you have problems or want to unroot you can flash stock firmware like in the video with Flashtool, no need to wipe userdata.
Please watch my video one time before begin, to understand what you have to do.
Free to you to distribute or modify my files but please link this thread as source.
BY FOLLOWING THIS GUIDE YOUR PHONE WILL PERFORM A FACTORY RESET WHEN UNLOCKING BL ( it will not format SD card) , MAKE BACKUPS !
Tested on my device F3112 and reported as working on F3116, other models may work as well if you do ALL steps. Will confirm after positive feedbacks.
Let's begin!
YOU NEED:
My first video guide (will be on youtube after validation) : https://mega.nz/#!RlwVSAKC!6lTBZxVnLQ-Mxz8er0_dg1r36dCNnUWIq8lEUfSp4Zw
Download XA ADB drivers, all models for Windows
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/drivers/Xperia_XA_driver.zip
Download XA Fastboot drivers, all models for Windows (if needed, installation is same as ADB drivers in video)
http://developer.sonymobile.com/downloads/drivers/fastboot-driver/
Download FLASHTOOL with integrated Xperifirm 0.9.22.3 for Windows
http://www.flashtool.net/downloads_windows.php
(if needed you can unlock bootloader with it, I unlocked my device with it)
Just follow official way and when you get the unlock code, paste it in UB menu of Flashtool. (faster way)
The step by step guide to unlock BootLoader by official way:
http://developer.sonymobile.com/unlockbootloader/unlock-yourboot-loader/
Video (not mine): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lKWd5LlUoA
(Just select Xperia XA when asked)
Now depending the firmware you want to root ( the one you downloaded with Xperifirm) choose your rootpack:
For XA single sim (33.2.A.2.xx) = F3111, F3113, F3115
33.2.A.2.73: https://mega.nz/#!ZsQhwbTC!rvw437H0ZujR5Ic02Rhlap6fQ4sLLyPmSRjyfZlMFiU (NOT TESTED)
For XA dual sim (33.2.B.2.xx) = F3112,F3116
33.2.B.2.35: https://mega.nz/#!5lZFhapC!SrYt1HmOICEyMh2Afl2EUn4nY0bRwL-Pd1f0Bpkireg
33.2.B.2.73: https://mega.nz/#!xgoXxBTa!DKAwKELVs0UvkZN0X53ZVM7I4U_XnCgG73RswzMPUi0
Good luck
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Will this work with F3116 running 33.2.B.2.66 firmware?
@hp6830s you talk about bugs seen in video? If I remember, error in TWRP is about wiping /cache but no a real problem and in video got 2 force close of Play service because I'm updated from .35 without wiping userdata (not crypted /data) and I think update wasn't fully finished. Never FC again after that and no problems. But if YOU have errors about /data in TWRP it's because of encrypted phone memory. During tests I got 1 bootloop in TWRP but can't repeat the problem again after wiped userdata on first root. That's why I recommend wipe. And that's strange if your phone not wiped when unlocked, for me no choice...
@tthmatt It works but really not recommended (for boot.img), as ramdisk and kernel are from an other firmware. For recovery it's less problematic. You can try and feedback us
Ok ,how to remove phone encyption on boot menu ,so i can install custom user ?
hp6830s said:
Many thanks for the effort mate. Will try it.
Btw, what is the bug with google store and user data, right after root.
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01/039/2016 11:39:08 - ERROR - Processing of boot.sin finished with errors. As u said data wipe is needed when unlocking the bl, but i have my BL unlocked earlier without data wiped...so i started the flash method ,on my old version of flashtool.Now i have the newest version, so got to try it...or i should skip the flash and go to root step...
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01/006/2016 13:06:39 - INFO - Ending flash session
01/006/2016 13:06:39 - INFO - Flashing finished.
For this phone use the newest version of flashtool.
Edit3: I need to enter some kind of password on boot menu.Now what ?
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I don't know the password to enter, seem to be randomly generated on first init by phone or a unknown default password is set. That's why you have to wipe userdata and after if you want you can recrypt phone in security menu and set your own password to use in TWRP. Have you seen a password in my video?? As said before I'm not a dev and my help is limited, my step by step guide is working, confirmed on F3116 and tested many times on my device. But if you want to not follow all steps you can but you will probably have problems. I said to use 0.9.22.3 Flashtool since first days, you use an older one and have problem. I said to flash and root and you want to root directly. I said to wipe and you don't do it... and finally problem again. Please follow ALL steps as described and at end if you have problems I will help you. If you want to continue with experimental way, just click Cancel on password prompt, on next screen don't swipe to allow modification, press "keep read only". At end if you have a recovery bootloop or corrupted userdata, don't ask why I don't want to say that my way is the only one but for now it's the working one (if you follow it carefully)
I didnt said - not following your guide. I did every step, as soon i discovered error on flashing (from the older version). But i did wipe everything, now my phone is empty. Yet it asks for password in order to install superUser, do i need to perform factory reset from recovery menu ?
edit: Wipe/ Factory - OK. FORMAT - YES...and password should be gone.
edit2: phone is rooted, and installing apps.
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I didnt said - not following your guide. I did every step, as soon i discovered error on flashing (from the older version). But i did wipe everything, now my phone is empty. Yet it asks for password in order to install superUser, do i need to perform factory reset from recovery menu ?
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Flash full stock firmware with Flashtool and check "userdata" in "wipe" column as in the video (don't wipe/factory reset from Android) , JUST AFTER flash boot.img and recovery.img with Fastboot (don't boot android before that) . Boot to Android to verify and set up your phone, when finished reboot to TWRP to install UpdateSuperSU.zip No passwords needed if followed that, if you defined pin/password for lockscreen or to start phone, try it. Or don't set any password before the end of root process. I don't understand why it ask for a password
Its all set.Battery seem more stable now...but cant find some of diagnostics tools in About Phone, like battery optimization (but i use greenify now) and move apps to SD card wizzard.
Do i need to create backup from flashtool / boot ?
hp6830s said:
Its all set.Battery seem more stable now...but cant find some of diagnostics tools in About Phone, like battery optimization (but i use greenify now) and move apps to SD card wizzard.
Do i need to create backup from flashtool / boot ?
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You finally successfully rooted your phone :good:
You can find battery optimization in "settings " --> "battery". You can't move apps on external SD since a looong time (or with workaround) , just pictures, videos, music ????
For that go "settings" --> "storage and memory".
Android 6 have a new feature "Adoptable Storage" to integrate external SD as phone memory like "ARCHOS Storage Fusion" (but it encrypt SD and is no more readable on PC with USB readers, disable acces to internal memory, not good if you break your phone) but seem to not be present in our firmwares. Next challenge is to enable feature and make encryption as a choice for user.
And for your last question I recommend you make full backup with TWRP, by this way you can backup all partitions. Not sure if it works for XA with Flashtool.
rrvuhpg said:
You finally successfully rooted your phone :good:
And for your last question I recommend you make full backup with TWRP, by this way you can backup all partitions. Not sure if it works for XA with Flashtool.
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thx ,but i cant backup, my m card is less than 8 gb (8.2 gb backup img) so i have to wait till my 16 gb card arrives.i
btw what is Xposed framework , Viper4Android. And how to tweek my battery settings more deeper...or greenify hibernate its fine.
hp6830s said:
btw what is Xposed framework , Viper4Android. And how to tweek my battery settings more deeper...or greenify hibernate its fine.
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Google is your friend ????
http://www.howtogeek.com/195476/7-t...ramework-on-a-rooted-android-phone-or-tablet/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2191223
I will make a guide for installing Xposed and Viper4Android with all working packages for XA.
Yippee-ki-yay! DRM keys are back! Noice reduction and screen optimizations are working again. Used DRM fix found on XDA. Look screens of DRM keys state and the time stamps. Verified with comparative pictures/screenshots :fingers-crossed:
Link to the fix: http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/xperia-z1-z2-z3-series-devices-drm-t2930672
Use zip for Z3+
rrvuhpg said:
Yippee-ki-yay! DRM keys are back! Noice reduction and screen optimizations are working again. Used DRM fix found on XDA. Look screens of DRM keys state and the time stamps. Verified with comparative pictures/screenshots :fingers-crossed:
Link to the fix: http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/xperia-z1-z2-z3-series-devices-drm-t2930672
Use zip for Z3+
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There not really back there still gone for good, know idea how he does it, but it fools/emulates the keys tricking the Sony software into reactivating the Bravia engine+x-reality+camera imaging/low light algorithms. Good to know that there are two ways to do it now though. If I can be bothered I need to try this ivyroot tool for backing up your drm keys before unlocking the Bootloader. Until I know I can back up the keys I won't be unlocking the Bootloader.
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aidy.lucas said:
There not really back there still gone for good, know idea how he does it, but it fools/emulates the keys tricking the Sony software into reactivating the Bravia engine+x-reality+camera imaging/low light algorithms. Good to know that there are two ways to do it now though. If I can be bothered I need to try this ivyroot tool for backing up your drm keys before unlocking the Bootloader. Until I know I can back up the keys I won't be unlocking the Bootloader.
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iovyroot seem to use a security exploit in LP (kernels before Dec 2015) but patched in MM (or missed the news) and no LP firmware for XA to flash, next exploit for MM can take months or more to come... But I can understand your opinion, the choice is difficult, root or warranty. For me rooting my phones is not optional, when you used custom ROMs, Xposed, Viper4Android, Lucky Patcher and GameKiller one time you can't stay without them after and say f**k to the warranty . If we talk about Xperia X I'm fully OK with you as it cost $$$ and will try to preserve the warranty.
EDIT: The fix is really good, ALL is working again (backup with Xperia PC Compagnon too) and very interesting thing it can show my REAL warranty date in Xperia Care as before. That's strange ...
Looking forsome help
Umm I got the boot loader unlock code. From sony on there web sit, I am new to this. But do I have to flash the phone if my bootloader is unlocked?? I don't want to mess it up I just got it and payed full price i rooted my other phones easy I just am new to android 6
just check XFirmware and xxx.73 version is only available in Brazil
should I tried it?
my version is customizedVN :crying:
Willismetal said:
Umm I got the boot loader unlock code. From sony on there web sit, I am new to this. But do I have to flash the phone if my bootloader is unlocked?? I don't want to mess it up I just got it and payed full price i rooted my other phones easy I just am new to android 6
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You can test, don't worry about phone brick as long as you don't play with preloader, in Flashtool stay in "normal" mode. I hard bricked XA many times during my private tests (no screen, no sound, only charging led) and always unbricked Mtk are strong for that.
@caosugai you can flash without problem but don't know if it's good for daily use. Tested .66 TW on .35 FR before . 73 out for France, but for test only.
Look here for more:
http://techbeasts.com/how-to-download-sony-xperia-official-firmware-and-create-ftf-file/
Think i lost access to my personal prediction settings, the one that pinpoints my email when entering on login screens over the apps /web ( for example on typing Us3r ,the texting app predicts my mail : [email protected] ,so i dont need typing the whole email over and over )
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You can test, don't worry about phone brick as long as you don't play with preloader, in Flashtool stay in "normal" mode. I hard bricked XA many times during my private tests (no screen, no sound, only charging led) and always unbricked Mtk are strong for that.
@caosugai you can flash without problem but don't know if it's good for daily use. Tested .66 TW on .35 FR before . 73 out for France, but for test only.
Look here for more:
http://techbeasts.com/how-to-download-sony-xperia-official-firmware-and-create-ftf-file/
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then it's a soft brick not a hard brick. A hard bricked Xperia is irreversible. Bootloop is always recoverable as is a device with only led response when connected to USB and if it does nothing on connection to USB and pc doesn't recognize the device it's a paperweight, that's what I learnt when I first got into rooting and modding my old m2 device.
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hp6830s said:
Think i lost access to my personal prediction settings, the one that pinpoints my email when entering on login screens over the apps /web ( for example on typing Us3r ,the texting app predicts my mail : [email protected] ,so i dont need typing the whole email over and over )
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Mines the same or at least it was earlier on not bringing up email address when logging on to pretty much anything, maybe it's something to do with this SwiftKey thing going off where it predicts someone else's email address and stored words. Maybe it's turned off at there end while sorting the issue out.
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=========================How To Backup/Restore TA Partition And Root The Device?=======================
=========Basic Questions/Answers Related To Sony Mobiles=========
1) What Is TA Partition?
A) Sony Xperia devices store all the precious information regarding warranty status, DRM keys, etc. into a partition called â??TAâ?Â, and fortunately you can backup this TA partition before unlocking the Bootloader on your Xperia device and restore it when needed.
2) What are DRM keys?
A) DRM keys are the unique keys that enables advanced technologies like the BIONZ image processor ,X-Reality Engine etc..
3) What Happens If You Unlock Bootloader?
A) When you unlock Bootloader,the TA Partition is formatted as a result the DRM keys are lost thus we will lose technologies like the BIONZ image processor ,X-Reality Engine etc..
4) What Is DRM Fix?
A) DRM Fix is a tool that to restore the lost functions.
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===================================How To Backup TA Partiton==================================
"iovyroot" A developer has developed a tool for backing up the TA Partiton. Unfortunatly it works only on Lollipop Kernel so you will have to downgrade to Lollipop.
Downgrading To Lollipop
* Download Flashtool and install it
* Download firmware from below link :
https://goo.gl/MJSEJd
* Start Flashtool
* Click on the lightning bolt icon
* Select "Flashmode"
* Locate the Lollipop firmware you have downloaded and select it.
* In the Wipe Option Select all the partitons. (Otherwise things will crash a lot and you won't get into the phone properly.)
* Turn off the phone.
* Wait for Flashtool to finish preparing the files.
* When prompted, hold "volume DOWN" button while plugging in the USB.
* Wait for it to finish.
* Once finished reboot the device.
Backing Up TA Partiton
Now that you're on Lollipop, you can use iovyroot. With this we can gain temporary root access and dump the TA partition to a file. This file is what we use to restore the DRM keys to your device after it's been wiped by unlocking the bootloader.
*Extract iovyroot_v0.4.zip and run "tabackup.bat"
Once it's done, you should have a TA-####.img file which sorta looks like "TA-16042016.img" and is approximately 2mb in size. That's your TA backup done and dusted!
Keep it safe somewhere.
===================================Unlocking The Booloader======================================
* Go to Settings > Developer options
* Tick "Enable OEM unlock"
* Open up a browser on your computer and follow the instructions at Sony's developer website.
* After receiving your email, entering your IMEI number and accepting some user conditions will provide you with an unlock code.
* Turn off your phone.
* In Flashtool, click on "BLU"
* Hold "volume DOWN" on your phone and plug it into the computer.
* When prompted, release volume down and unplug.
* Hold volume UP and plug it back in.
* You should now get a dialog which lets you enter an unlock code.
* Paste in the unlock code and click "Unlock".
* Wait for the phone to finish doing it's thing and restart.
===================================Rooting The Device==================================
* Download Latest AndroPlus Kernel From The Below Link:
https://goo.gl/mHJOFN
* Extract the zip file and find boot.img
* Flash the boot.img using cmd and fastboot.
Then,
* Download TWRP Recovery from Below Link :
https://goo.gl/AQ9Edi
* Flash the TWRP Recovery using cmd and fastboot.
* Now Download Latest SuperSu From Below Link :
http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu
* Transfer the file in to the device.
* Now Reboot the device.
* When booting press the volume rockers to access TWRP Recovery.
* Click Install and Flash the SuperSU zip file.
That's It ! You have rooted your device !
===================================How To Restore TA Partiton?==================================
Note : Restoring TA Partiton Will Re-Lock The Boot-Loader And You Will Loose Root Access.
* Copy your TA partition backup to the TA tool's extracted folder.
* Connect your device with USB Debugging Enabled
* Open up a command prompt to the extracted folder and type in the following:
tarestore.bat {Your TA Backup File}
Example :
tarestore.bat TA-14102016.img
This new restored TA partition should persist across device wipes and Android upgrades.
===================================How To Upgrade Your Device?==================================
* Download and install Flashtool.
* You will find a XperiFirm icon on the tool. Click it and download the latest firmware of your device.
As your download completes the tool automatically creates ftf file.
* Now click on the lightning bolt icon on the Flashtool.
* Select the Flashmode.
* Now,Select The Firmware.
* Tick all the boxes under Wipe.
Note: If you don't want to wipe user data then exclude userdata from ticking.
* Click on Flash
* Connect your device in flashmode when prompted.
* Wait for the firmware to flash and reboot once done!
That's it.
Please Hit Thanks If Helped
Thank You!
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Thanks iovyroot for the tool.
Thanks XperiaBlog for the firmware.
Thanks a lot for this Tuto,
I think I will ry after work....
TA restoring can be done even if I want to use custom roms?
Can I use stock .305 and your kernel : Customized Stock Kernel {32.2.A.0.305 - 6.0.1} {Update} by heptyle to have directly root and TWRP after unlocking BL ?
mickael91210 said:
Thanks a lot for this Tuto,
I think I will ry after work....
TA restoring can be done even if I want to use custom roms?
Can I use stock .305 and your kernel : Customized Stock Kernel {32.2.A.0.305 - 6.0.1} {Update} by heptyle to have directly root and TWRP after unlocking BL ?
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Yes, you can restore TA at any time. Install and try as many roms as you want. Also you can use the kernel directly for root and twrp.
Thank You!
I use E5803. Is it ok if i use ur tft file to roll nack to lollipop? If ok will i loose my finger print scanner? How do i get it back? Thanks
paq1170 said:
I use E5803. Is it ok if i use ur tft file to roll nack to lollipop? If ok will i loose my finger print scanner? How do i get it back? Thanks
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I think it will work with E5803 too. Even if you loose fingerprint scanner you can upgrade to marshmallow after backuping the TA partition.
Hello and sorry for noob questions...
I backed up my ta partition and I updated phone to .305...
Now :
Is it possible to unlock bootloader with Sony's site? I think yes but after:
Will it be possible to restore ta partition with adb commands in the thread?
And Will it be possible to root the device with your kernel?
Thanks a lot
Mickael
Envoyé de mon D5803 en utilisant Tapatalk
mickael91210 said:
Hello and sorry for noob questions...
I backed up my ta partition and I updated phone to .305...
Now :
Is it possible to unlock bootloader with Sony's site? I think yes but after:
Will it be possible to restore ta partition with adb commands in the thread?
And Will it be possible to root the device with your kernel?
Thanks a lot
Mickael
Envoyé de mon D5803 en utilisant Tapatalk
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Yes, now you are very safe as you have backed up the TA Partition .
Now,you can unlock bootloader from Sony's official site.
You can restore TA partition at any time.
You may install the kernel for root access,twrp recovery and all other features.
Thank You!
mickael91210 said:
Hello and sorry for noob questions...
I backed up my ta partition and I updated phone to .305...
Now :
Is it possible to unlock bootloader with Sony's site? I think yes but after:
Will it be possible to restore ta partition with adb commands in the thread?
And Will it be possible to root the device with your kernel?
Thanks a lot
Mickael
Envoyé de mon D5803 en utilisant Tapatalk
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Yes, go ahead and unlock your bootloader if you want. Just make sure that you have your TA backup.
Will it be possible to restore ta partition with adb commands in the thread?
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Yes, but bootloader will be locked again if you restore your TA partition. And the TA partition is a dangerous part, make sure your backup of TA partition is not corrupted or damaged before doing it.
And Will it be possible to root the device with your kernel?
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Take a look here, if you repack the stock kernel with this script, you'll be able to root by flashing the supersu zip via the TWRP recovery. You can also reactivate your original device key (from your TA partition) too.
ipromeh said:
Yes, but bootloader will be locked again if you restore your TA partition. And the TA partition is a dangerous part, make sure your backup of TA partition is not corrupted or damaged before doing it.
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Is it really right? because if I have bootloader locked again I couldn't root ?
How can I check if TA backup is not corrupted? I had a succesfullness message after the backup?
ipromeh said:
Take a look here, if you repack the stock kernel with this script, you'll be able to root by flashing the supersu zip via the TWRP recovery. You can also reactivate your original device key (from your TA partition) too.
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I thought that the heptyle's kernel will do all alone. Am I wrong?
mickael91210 said:
Is it really right? because if I have bootloader locked again I couldn't root ?
How can I check if TA backup is not corrupted? I had a succesfullness message after the backup?
I thought that the heptyle's kernel will do all alone. Am I wrong?
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Yes,the kernel would do all. Don't worry!
There is no chance for getting the backup corrupted as you have followed steps clearly and got successful message.
I am on e5803 I rolled back to discuss lollipop firmware, now I am confused in restoring my TA. My phone now gets so hot just by texting, I tried ur above kernel(don't If I used the right one) my phone will not turn on. I give up trying to root Sony! I have rooted every other phone with out this hassle. Pls I need a detailed instruction on how to EASILY restore my TA and an ftf for e5803. Pleeeeeeese. I am a Sony nooob
paq1170 said:
I am on e5803 I rolled back to discuss lollipop firmware, now I am confused in restoring my TA. My phone now gets so hot just by texting, I tried ur above kernel(don't If I used the right one) my phone will not turn on. I give up trying to root Sony! I have rooted every other phone with out this hassle. Pls I need a detailed instruction on how to EASILY restore my TA and an ftf for e5803. Pleeeeeeese. I am a Sony nooob
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You flashed .305 kernel on Lolliop that's the reason. Just reinstall the stock firmware again and have a TA Backup or if you have fed up rooting then Use flashtool and xperifirm and upgrade to latest .305 firmware.
I'm a bit confused. When I first bought my Xperia Z5C, I immediately backed up the DRM Keys/TA Partition. I unlocked the bootloader and later installed AndroPlusKernel which included the DRM fix. Upon checking the bootloader unlocked status, it says "Bootloader unlock allowed: Yes" Is that due to the DRM fix? Do I still need to restore my TA partition?
iArvee said:
I'm a bit confused. When I first bought my Xperia Z5C, I immediately backed up the DRM Keys/TA Partition. I unlocked the bootloader and later installed AndroPlusKernel which included the DRM fix. Upon checking the bootloader unlocked status, it says "Bootloader unlock allowed: Yes" Is that due to the DRM fix? Do I still need to restore my TA partition?
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As you have applied kernel with drm fix you don't have to restore the TA Partiton.
heptyle said:
You flashed .305 kernel on Lolliop that's the reason. Just reinstall the stock firmware again and have a TA Backup or if you have fed up rooting then Use flashtool and xperifirm and upgrade to latest .305 firmware.
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Pls can u give me a link to the right kernel, I didn't know I was flashing a marshmallow kernel.
paq1170 said:
Pls can u give me a link to the right kernel, I didn't know I was flashing a marshmallow kernel.
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Download the stock firmware from below thread and flash it using Flashtool.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/general/stock-firmware-32-0-6-200-t3479713
Hi guys, I can't get iovyroot to see my device...
error: device not found
What am I doing wrong chaps?
Flashing went smoothly but...
l33boy said:
Hi guys, I can't get iovyroot to see my device...
error: device not found
What am I doing wrong chaps?
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Did you enable USB Debugging from developer option?
Check whether the drivers are installed correctly.
If not
Download and install it from here :
http://developer.sonymobile.com/downloads/drivers/xperia-z5-compact-driver/
heptyle said:
Did you enable USB Debugging from developer option?
Check whether the drivers are installed correctly.
If not
Download and install it from here :
http://developer.sonymobile.com/downloads/drivers/xperia-z5-compact-driver/
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Yep, USB debug is set.
and it flashed OK and I can see the phone in windows explorer
l33boy said:
Yep, USB debug is set.
and it flashed OK and I can see the phone in windows explorer
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Can you send me the screen shot of windows device manager.
MOD EDIT: THREAD CLOSED
We already have threads on rooting this device with this method. Per the forum rules, please search before posting.
This how I had successfully rooted my oneplus x, Marshmallow stock rom, (OxygenOs 3.1.4)
Note: download and install latest twrp from https://dl.twrp.me/onyx/
1. Download superuser.zip https://superuser.phh.me/superuser.zip
2. Reboot into twrp and flash the zip file
3, Reboot into system and download superuser app from Playstore https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=me.phh.superuser
4. Congratulations, now you have root on your device!!
thanks to @phhusson for his awesome work https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/wip-selinux-capable-superuser-t3216394
Wrong section, mate.
EDIT: reported, will be moved soon
tried exactly as specified above and still no root access
vinodhrk said:
tried exactly as specified above and still no root access
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same here
To root OOS 3.1.4, you just have to flash a systemless version of SuperSu
This one for ex : http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/supersu/2014-09-02-supersu-v2-05-t2868133
Then reboot and install superSU app.
Of course, the last official TWRP 3.0.3 is advised.
Since my official oneplus x recovery doesn't have an option to create backup to external sd card: is it mandatory to backup all my personal data when rooting the phone?
I understand the risks if something goes wrong through the procedure (and then it's really pays to have a backup), but... will all the data and my settings of the original OxygenOS all be gone even if I succeed in rooting? Thanks a lot!
nixnix33 said:
Since my official oneplus x recovery doesn't have an option to create backup to external sd card: is it mandatory to backup all my personal data when rooting the phone?
I understand the risks if something goes wrong through the procedure (and then it's really pays to have a backup), but... will all the data and my settings of the original OxygenOS all be gone even if I succeed in rooting? Thanks a lot!
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Unlocking the bootloader will cause a factory reset. So you must backup everything you think is necessary beforehand.
Read it carefully:
[GUIDE] How to * Unlock * Flash TWRP * Root * OnePlus X [Including Oxygen 3.1.3]
Thanks, mate!
However, since my original oneplus recovery doesn't support a "backup system to sd" option: can I first flash TWRP without creating a backup and then make one with TWRP - am I right?
EDIT: I see now that installing TWRP is not possible before unlocking the bootloader, correct? How to make a backup then, because the installed recovery does not have an option to make it...
[GUIDE] Full Phone Backup without Unlock or Root
nixnix33 said:
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How to make a backup then, because the installed recovery does not have an option to make it...
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[GUIDE] Full Phone Backup without Unlock or Root
ze7zez said:
[GUIDE] Full Phone Backup without Unlock or Root
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Thanks, was just doing a backup with Helium, but it's worth to make a duplicate backup just in case...