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I desperate need help on recovering the deleted text messages. (Big Big rewardddd)

All of my text messages are very very important and personal to me. I carefully saved every single of them into my email and computer so I won't lost a "single" of them. That is the reason why I went for android platform because there is an application (My Backup Pro) that helps me to back up all the important texts I have with my family and my wife. The disaster struck when i upgraded my android phone to the Nexus One from the G1. The new message app in the nexus one has a "Delete old messages" option on the default which I completely acknowledged nothing about it thus I did not disable that option, so it started to delete all my messages when they reached to the certain amount number of text messages. When i noticed i was in a big shocked stage, I am extremely unhappy. I called Tmobile to see if they can send me a copy of all the contents of the texts that were deleted, they offered no help for that sort of request neither Nexus One Customer Support Department can do anything about it. To my knowledge, when a data is being "deleted", it's not really gone forever instead it is being compressed to a smaller value for saving space purpose or it's lying somewhere inside the flash memory and waiting for the new data to overwrite it. I did spend weeks of research and calling for help but I could not find any help. If any developer or anyone could help me to recover the deleted text messages in my Nexus One, I would be really happy and greatly appreciate your help. I will pay you a big reward, the reward is your choice. Anything you want. Thank you very very much for your help. My phone is not rooted yet and I haven't done the hard reset. So I guess the data is still in the flash memory, we just need to get them out.

So you went for android platform because of My Backup Pro but you didn't make any backup with it before upgrading to the N1?
Anyway.. I don't think deleted SMS messages will be recoverable... sorry

I've never seen anyone even want to accomplish this goal.. or cared about their texts in such way..
I dont know for sure, but I would assume this is something you wont be able to do.. hope you find a way I guess.

unfortunately the messages do not get saved on the sd card but rather on the phone. There does exist software that recovers lost data from Hard drives, sd cards, etc. But the messages were deleted from the phone itself and its hard to say this but you wont be able to recover it! just remember to always backup for next time and make sure you get rid of the "delete all messages" and dont forget that after a large number of text, they seem to all get deleted at once even if you dont have that option selected. it has happened to me after about 4000 texts! and not once but three times already. thats why i always backup and if i ever lose any text it will be under 100's. and also remeber to backup the backups of Backup Pro, LOL! Sd cards die as well, so you never know! so try saving a copy to your pc and by the way if your text are that imprtant then remeber that hard drives from PC'S die as well and you never know either, so backup as well and Remeber lol that you can burn it onto a cd every once in a while!
Good Luck

Yeah I hate to say you are s.o.l. with the old messages. all you can do is look how to prevent this in the future. 1. use Google voice or 2. download the sms2email app

I delete my text messages on a daily basis. I just have no use for them after I read them once. This seems important to you, so I do hope you find a way of recovering them. Good luck!

wow what kind of messages have you received that you want them back so bad?

melterx12 said:
wow what kind of messages have you received that you want them back so bad?
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Naughty ones.

If you have the data backed up with mybackup pro, u can inspect the files in: /sdcard/rerware/MyBackup/
Followed by whatever name u gave em. you can restore it from there too. i think they're stored in sqlite3 but, i tried restoring some data i had backed up to sqlite3 and it couldn't re-create the db cuz it was kinda encrypted.
hope that helps. maybe u could try emailing the dev of MyBackup Pro?
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If you backup your msgs into email, why did you not use "SMS Backup" (by Christopher Studer) instead or a similar tool which does real-time backup? It adds your message proactively into gmail under a certain label. That is time saved for you.
Also, as others have pointed out, you can not recover your messages, unless you had an auto-backup of that saved to your SD card. In that case, even if your SD card was wiped or formatted, you could essentially perform a recovery using a disk recovery application.

Thank you very much for all the comments. I guess there is no help. I will try to call Tmobile again to see if they can send me contents of the the text messages.

phuthanvinh said:
Thank you very much for all the comments. I guess there is no help. I will try to call Tmobile again to see if they can send me contents of the the text messages.
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T-Mobile cannot send you the contents of the text messages, they do not open up and read your texts, nor do they save that burst of data, that would be an insane amount of data to save, as well probably an illegal invasion of privacy.

phuthanvinh said:
Thank you very much for all the comments. I guess there is no help. I will try to call Tmobile again to see if they can send me contents of the the text messages.
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Yeah, Tmobile is of no help! They cannot look at your text messages as they will be violating your rights! neither would they backup something that they have no use for!

You should really look into Google Voice or something similar in the future. That way all of your text messages are available online at all times - like email. Very, very useful.
I have been saved so many times by that service.

texts are saved i think for a certain amount of time on servers. Look at the Kwame Kilpatrick case in Detroit for example. In order to get them though you would need a search warrant to gain access to those files.

Tmobile say they would but only if the police or law enforcement involve in order for them to pull out the contents, in this case i dont know what to do. The only way get the contents back is to access to my wife iphone but the problem is her iphone also has the auto delete old sms. I did lots of researches on recovering the deleted sms on iphone and there are a few methods but im not certain because im not a tech savvy. So i have her iphone in hand and it has not been synced for months. Is there a possiblility to recover the conversations i had with her that are also had been deleted in her iphone? The reason i want get those conversations back because they involve in our large business deals. Please help.

Hey, I have PM'd you some info to help you retrieve txt msgs of an
iphone...
hope it works...

I also archive every text message. To make sure that I won't lose them, I backup them on WaveSecure (free for Android until March 31!!) and SMS Backup & Restore app. Both of them can be found on the Market. WaveSecure is an anti-theft app that also backups SMS, call logs, and files on their servers. SMS Backup & Restore (and Call Logs Backups & Restore by the same developer) saves an XML file to your SD card. You can easily email the XML to yourself.

If you were using GOOGLE VOICE on your GOOGLE Android phone there would be no issue.

aad4321 said:
its ok, i lost my sextmessages one time too
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WHOA!!!
hahahhaa, i lost a few also while trying different ROMs, but we don't go admitting to them! hahahaa.
I sincerely hope that the original poster, phuthanvinh, can find a solution for this with T-Mobile.
It seems pretty lame that they would offer to fix this IF law enforcement was involved.

[Q] Galaxy S (Continuum) Text Issue

Hi All,
I would like to apologize if this has been dealt with before, but I have been searching for days now without the right terms. I have a Samsung Continuum that I rooted and used Titanium to remove the bloatware. I thought I backed everything up first, but only ended up with data. I tried reinstalling everything from the market, but no changes. My problem is that my outgoing texting is hit or miss. It seems not to matter what the phone is or the carrier. I can reply to about 75% of messages. It also does not depend on proximity. I removed all Verizon ware and the other things that are trials. I did notice that I have an Android SMS in my Titanium backup folder that I didn't purposely place there. Titanium will not restore this. I am in the process of getting a terminal to try it manually. Has anyone experienced issues similar to this? It is very odd that only some texts pass through. Thanks in advance if there is an answer. I may be stuck to waiting on getting a stock ROM so I can start over. If you have a Continuum, please help.
Thanks,
Logan

texting issue
Update: Texting issue was due to a +1 at the beginning of the phone number or general phone number format. Google puts the +1 on there when using Google Talk. After removing all those and set the format to ########## it worked. Now let's get to some real customizing.

Backup/restore mms

I'm running Golden Eye on my AT&T S4 (mdl bootloader so no safestrap). I used to update regularly but been busy lately so I'm several versions behind and want to upgrade to the latest and greatest (v24 to v35). Everything goes fine with the install except for the fact that I can't seem to restore my text messages. In the past I have always been able to restore from an xml file with TiBu without any issues. Now when I open the messaging app after attempting to restore, it shows all the contacts that I've been texting with but when I select someone there's no actual texts or photos displayed. I know some people recommend against restoring call logs and texts via TiBu but I've never had an issue when upgrading v1 through v24.
Has something changed in recent updates that might affect how these files are handled or where they're stored? Anyone know of a work around or a good app that handles mms?

Fastest possible way to restore thousands of texts?

Is there any quick way of restoring a large number of text messages, either from flashing somehow, titanium backup, or any other method? Maybe manually index all the messages so my message app(s) don't lock up, my phone doesn't lag, and my phone doesn't get forced to reboot? Or maybe restoring it by parts? (not sure how to split my conversations, one of them is 18k messages).
I just went from 4.4 to 5.0 recently (still rooted), and used SMS Backup & Restore to back up my texts. After a few hours of restoring, I managed to restore nearly 35k of texts. However, it's taking forever for the messages to be indexed. I would get unresponsive "do you want to wait or close the messages app" on both the stock Samsung and the Messages+ app. If I knew for sure that it just takes time and I should just keep the messages app open, I'd do it, but I've had it open for a few hours with nothing to show for it. The reason I did this was because the Messages+ app from Verizon only restores the past 90 days, when I wanted all of my existing texts ported over. Any suggestions?

Spartan117H3 said:
Is there any quick way of restoring a large number of text messages, either from flashing somehow, titanium backup, or any other method? Maybe manually index all the messages so my message app(s) don't lock up, my phone doesn't lag, and my phone doesn't get forced to reboot? Or maybe restoring it by parts? (not sure how to split my conversations, one of them is 18k messages).
I just went from 4.4 to 5.0 recently (still rooted), and used SMS Backup & Restore to back up my texts. After a few hours of restoring, I managed to restore nearly 35k of texts. However, it's taking forever for the messages to be indexed. I would get unresponsive "do you want to wait or close the messages app" on both the stock Samsung and the Messages+ app. If I knew for sure that it just takes time and I should just keep the messages app open, I'd do it, but I've had it open for a few hours with nothing to show for it. The reason I did this was because the Messages+ app from Verizon only restores the past 90 days, when I wanted all of my existing texts ported over. Any suggestions?
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35k text messages? For real? Lol
Titanium can definitely do it but I have a feeling once you climb to that sort of a number any app use is going to take a while and the ROM is probably going to think its choked. Does it eventually finish if you wait an hour?
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grnsl2 said:
35k text messages? For real? Lol
Titanium can definitely do it but I have a feeling once you climb to that sort of a number any app use is going to take a while and the ROM is probably going to think its choked. Does it eventually finish if you wait an hour?
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Yeah, according to SMS Backup & Restore.
The restore finished after a few hours. Actually indexing the texts which I thought should have been done with the restore process? For a few hours, it's been stuck saying I have the same 19 unread messages, has been locking up both my ability to navigate anywhere (locks up sometimes), and sometimes even reboots my phone.
I'm trying to figure out a way to either flash all my texts back (flashing my backup with those texts intact works just fine), or somehow restoring them by splitting them up in chunks maybe a few thousand at a time (no idea how to do this).

Spartan117H3 said:
Yeah, according to SMS Backup & Restore.
The restore finished after a few hours. Actually indexing the texts which I thought should have been done with the restore process? For a few hours, it's been stuck saying I have the same 19 unread messages, has been locking up both my ability to navigate anywhere (locks up sometimes), and sometimes even reboots my phone.
I'm trying to figure out a way to either flash all my texts back (flashing my backup with those texts intact works just fine), or somehow restoring them by splitting them up in chunks maybe a few thousand at a time (no idea how to do this).
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If you have a backup of all of your texts then why are you trying to use SMS that seems to be locking up and causing you pain. Titanium may do the same thing, just got to give it a shot. I don't have 35 thousand texts to F around with and tell you what my results are. Good luck!
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grnsl2 said:
If you have a backup of all of your texts then why are you trying to use SMS that seems to be locking up and causing you pain. Titanium may do the same thing, just got to give it a shot. I don't have 35 thousand texts to F around with and tell you what my results are. Good luck!
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The backup is from 4.4. I went to 5.0 with a factory reset.

Spartan117H3 said:
The backup is from 4.4. I went to 5.0 with a factory reset.
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So I've used SMS quite a few times in my rom charades. My suggestion would be that when you do a restore do the restore for the last 6 months and then a second restore earlier but skip duplicates. At least then you're splitting it in half? I don't know how many months 35000 texts go back but that's worth a shot.
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grnsl2 said:
So I've used SMS quite a few times in my rom charades. My suggestion would be that when you do a restore do the restore for the last 6 months and then a second restore earlier but skip duplicates. At least then you're splitting it in half? I don't know how many months 35000 texts go back but that's worth a shot.
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I did something like that, Messages+ synced the last 90 days worth of texts, but 35k is from a little over a year's worth?
I tested restoring data only from FlashFire, which does properly restore texts but I'm getting screwed because I restored from 4.4 onto a 5.0 rom, so a ton of apps aren't happy with me, and I'm not sure if I've screwed anything up. I do know I'll need to re-install my xposed for 5.0 at the very least.
Edit: am currently trying it in smaller chunks. No idea how I'm going to do the one 18k conversation from the past 5 months though.

Spartan117H3 said:
I did something like that, Messages+ synced the last 90 days worth of texts, but 35k is from a little over a year's worth?
I tested restoring data only from FlashFire, which does properly restore texts but I'm getting screwed because I restored from 4.4 onto a 5.0 rom, so a ton of apps aren't happy with me, and I'm not sure if I've screwed anything up. I do know I'll need to re-install my xposed for 5.0 at the very least.
Edit: am currently trying it in smaller chunks. No idea how I'm going to do the one 18k conversation from the past 5 months though.
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If you use Google's Messaging+ for your default txt app they are stored on Google servers, accessible on any device, tablet and your desktop and restore to any phone you activate automatically.

Chopstix9 said:
If you use Google's Messaging+ for your default txt app they are stored on Google servers, accessible on any device, tablet and your desktop and restore to any phone you activate automatically.
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When you say google, you mean Verizon's? That's what I'm using. But it only restores up to 90 days maximum from the current date you start the restoration. Even if you have texts existing within 90 days, if the time stamp of those texts are not within 90, they don't get restored.
Anyways, as an update, I've been restoring messages ~6k at a time. There's little to no indexing after sms backup and restore is finished. So it seems it will work for the rest of them. Too bad I had to flash to a backup before my initial 35k just to be able to access my messages app once again.
Edit: Ended up fixing it by loading my texts 6-8k at a time.

Sms backup / database corrupted?

Hey i was having issues with texting today and couldn't pinpoint if it was tmobile or the fact I have over 20k in messages. On the phone with them all day and messages wouldn't send/ receive. Couple ppl said they sent me messages and never received.. Some test ones eventually came through.
Anyways, I had restored messages from a previous phone to this and now I went to do a backup like I normally would with Sms backup & restore and never had a issue. I look into the file saved and noticed that many of the messages aren't saved. I used the built in backup with Samsung cloud and restored on another galaxy phone..
Seems like since I got the phone not many messages saved. Would I have to format the messaging app to remove all messages and call it a loss at this point and start from scratch?
Sorry for the long message. Thank you in advance
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