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I was considering this HU for my 2016 VW Polo since I don't care much about having a DVD slot. The title for this HU says DVD but it doesn't sport a drive. Though the spec seems good (RK3188) and the price isn't much either I didn't find any reviews or information about this HU on XDA (or outside).
There are couple of places this is being sold from Ali express to GearBest and also on their own website.
Does anyone have any thoughts on this one? Specifically I was looking for community support (root, custom firmware). Since this sports a RK3188 chip can other ROMs be used on this? Also the HU has a very thin form factor (compared to other HUs) - so would heat be an issue?
Who knows?
It doesn't have a volume control knob, if you can live with that. Personally, on screen adjustments for volume, track selection, "back," and on/off is very unhandy and annoying. You can't just reach up and adjust it with out looking. Also the volume steps of the touch controls are not always small enough to set a precise level. These units, with no US contacts or service, are a pain if you need something. Carjoying is in the US and quite responsive. Updates are also made.....who knows about those other relatively unknown products. They may never update and may no work with other software. I have never seen a 9" screen wonder if the thin bezel is just a half inch smaller and uncovering the edges of an 8" panel. This is just conjecture but perhaps worth considering.
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It doesn't have a volume control knob, if you can live with that. Personally, on screen adjustments for volume, track selection, "back," and on/off is very unhandy and annoying. You can't just reach up and adjust it with out looking. Also the volume steps of the touch controls are not always small enough to set a precise level. These units, with no US contacts or service, are a pain if you need something. Carjoying is in the US and quite responsive. Updates are also made.....who knows about those other relatively unknown products. They may never update and may no work with other software. I have never seen a 9" screen wonder if the thin bezel is just a half inch smaller and uncovering the edges of an 8" panel. This is just conjecture but perhaps worth considering.
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Thanks for the response. I ended up placing an order for this unit instead. I dropped the other one mainly due to there being hardly any orders and reviews. I also did not get any proper responses from the sellers regarding that unit - probably since its new and they are themselves unaware of its features/fit. I agree about the support issues but I also had a tight budget and as long as it works fine :fingers-crossed: I should be OK. Importing these into India attracts a sizable customs duty The unit I bought costed me about $190 shipped via FedEx so I expect the customs would be proportionately lower.
Regarding the volume I have steering wheel controls which should serve the purpose of physical buttons. Though I agree that having a knob is more convenient I also kind of like the flush surface of these full touch units - lesser issues of dust settling.
I will post an update here once I get the unit and install it. BTW the reviews for this on AliExpress are excellent - would love to hear from anyone already owning this. I asked the seller about rooting and custom firmware (kind of essential for android units) but didn't hear anything positive This lack of support and the fact that this is an AllWinner solution (R16 QuadCore Cortex A7) were the only two drawbacks I saw in it (given its price).
How to root Junsun Android 4.4.4
I purchased this unit also from gearbest and like some things about it, but question other things.
The good:
1. The unit is ridiculously thin for a car stereo. There is no CD/DVD player
2. Sound is actually decent. Little difference from the stock unit
3. The home page with rotating icons is cool and different. I can also put a live wallpaper behind it
4. Mirroring app works ok, but I'd rather tether.
5. I can play videos and music on a USB flash drive
The bad:
1. I can't launch other apps and listen to music at the same time. (i.e. when I load Google Maps, radio stops)
2. No native capability to bluetooth tether. USB tethering with EasyTether also didn't work.
3. There are no microsd inputs like other Chinese Android units I've see thus far. I can connect a USB drive to 2 available connectors routed from the back of the unit. This isn't necessarily bad. Just requires different process for rooting that's TBD.
4. Instructions are only in chinese. Don't know who really makes this device, or how to get their technical support. So far, gearbest has provided some answers, but they're far from accurate!
So that said, I'd like to root and install some different apps and drivers that might make USB or bluetooth tethering possible. And that might allow me to listen to radio or USB music or Pandora while I have something else like Torque or Waze running.
Here are settings from the unit:
OS Version/Build Version: JAX1602191130G-WQ-16EN
MCU Version: 201512161416-SLX7786-GEN
CPU Model: RKPX3
Android: 4.4.4
There is also a 'system' page, where I can go to advanced, press 1234 as the password (found it through trial and error) . A screen is then available to upgrade MCU or firmware. However, I don't know where the files should be placed for this screen to register them.
Any pointers on process to root this and/or install something like Malaysk Firmware? Thanks!
poseidonsf said:
I purchased this unit also from gearbest and like some things about it, but question other things.
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Congratulations! Like I said I dropped the idea of buying this due to reasons mentioned above.
poseidonsf said:
1. I can't launch other apps and listen to music at the same time. (i.e. when I load Google Maps, radio stops)
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This is really bad since it defeats the whole purpose of an Android-based HU. Are you using the stock music app or trying something you installed?
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2. No native capability to bluetooth tether. USB tethering with EasyTether also didn't work.
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I think all these units restrict the bluetooth to the MCU and is generally not available to other apps. Though I am not sure how Torque works.
poseidonsf said:
3. There are no microsd inputs like other Chinese Android units I've see thus far. I can connect a USB drive to 2 available connectors routed from the back of the unit. This isn't necessarily bad. Just requires different process for rooting that's TBD.
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I think you mean micro-USB and not micro-SD? I too have the same issue with my unit. I don't know how to connect it to the PC.
poseidonsf said:
4. Instructions are only in chinese. Don't know who really makes this device, or how to get their technical support. So far, gearbest has provided some answers, but they're far from accurate!
So that said, I'd like to root and install some different apps and drivers that might make USB or bluetooth tethering possible.
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This is a problem with most Chinese purchases - informed support is almost non-existent. However since you have an RK3188 based unit I think some of the support threads here may match your unit (at least partially). First try to get into the extra setting menu using the passwords given in the RK3188 threads and rooting as well. You need to find the thread that matches best to your unit/firmware based on trying out the various settings/tweaks. Don't flash anything till you are certain you are in the correct support thread. All the best!
poseidonsf said:
I purchased this unit also from gearbest and like some things about it, but question other things.
1. I can't launch other apps and listen to music at the same time. (i.e. when I load Google Maps, radio stops)
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I am sure that this is some soft/firmware restriction. Android 4.4 has a native support of multitasking, so it should be by default in any of core versions of this OS. Main problem that I didn't find any resources where this issue was resolved.
Mine will !
VladVell said:
I am sure that this is some soft/firmware restriction. Android 4.4 has a native support of multitasking, so it should be by default in any of core versions of this OS. Main problem that I didn't find any resources where this issue was resolved.
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From home screen touch Radio icon, then from Radio app touch home icon on top left, back to home, start app you want. Radio continues on my radio from CarJoying. Works fine;
cardio77 said:
From home screen touch Radio icon, then from Radio app touch home icon on top left, back to home, start app you want. Radio continues on my radio from CarJoying. Works fine;
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If it was so easy... )) On this HU someone just ****ed up with firmware configuration... I'll try to fix it .... well on my free time. Luck for us it's an opensource os
VladVell said:
If it was so easy... )) On this HU someone just ****ed up with firmware configuration... I'll try to fix it .... well on my free time. Luck for us it's an opensource os
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This is really awful - how can they sell a "Android" HU with such limitation? You should give the seller an earful and a bad review for the unit so they are forced to fix it!
I have the same unit also , the camera doesn't show when I am in reverse mode , the steering wheel don't work with the radio, rkpx3 model
I need to know what MCU is installed on this unit . Someone has any clues ?
You can have a glance at this Pumpkin HU for VW, http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pumpkin-Android-Navigation-Subwoofer-Multimedia/dp/B01D30XDXY/
Lol. Even on the official video where this HU was demonstrated , MCU version is 'unknown' ))) http://screencast.com/t/RnQxbkAZBaWX
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I need to know what MCU is installed on this unit . Someone has any clues ?
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I bought this device.
The menu is exactly the same, firmware is the same: JAX1603281325G-WQ-16EN.
There's a microSD slot on the front panel.
MCU version: 201601251011-SLX7786-GEN .
Built-in player and radio can not work in the background, and this is the biggest trouble. There is not a full solution is to install third - party players who know how to work in the background, for example: BlackPlayer. But unfortunately, in third-party players do not switch tracks from the steering buttons. Adjust the volume and MUTE works as it should, because these buttons are programmed for the entire system. I liked that as a quick call navigation, you can assign any button on the steering wheel and choose any app.
The unit is decent, especially for the price. But such silly mistake with a built-in player and radio can wipe out all the pluses. Wrote to the seller, promised to talk to the engineer, perhaps
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dahkob said:
There's a microSD slot on the front panel.
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Is that a typo? There is NO microSD slot on this unit. You can connect a USB Flash Drive to the USB connections on the back of the unit though.
poseidonsf said:
Is that a typo? There is NO microSD slot on this unit. You can connect a USB Flash Drive to the USB connections on the back of the unit though.
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No. I have already found it when disassembled this HU. Its located on left edge of device. You can use it to flash ROM , or like normal SD... Now I working with stock firmware, trying to solve all issue mentioned in this thread. Its not so easy... bcz this MCU and firmware are not usual for this type of HU, and I didn't worked with this OS before ).
VladVell said:
No. I have already found it when disassembled this HU. Its located on left edge of device.
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Ah yeah, you're right! Don't know how I overlooked that before. Good find VladVell!
VladVell said:
No. I have already found it when disassembled this HU. Its located on left edge of device. You can use it to flash ROM , or like normal SD... Now I working with stock firmware, trying to solve all issue mentioned in this thread. Its not so easy... bcz this MCU and firmware are not usual for this type of HU, and I didn't worked with this OS before ).
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I noticed that the built-in player and radio do not have the manifest permissions to change the audio system settings ("modify audio settings"). Using APKEditor added this line to manifest, but to save, unfortunately, did not work, because I get the error message: the program is already installed and is missing a digital signature. If necessary I can put the modified and the original source code of the apk "music" and "radio"... Now are struggling with receiving the digital signature, the idea is APK Editor must sign the modified apk with the native signature. Apparently, there is some protection.
n the process of using the device revealed the following shortcomings (about the first two already written):
1. Not running in the background built-in music player . That is, when playing music you can't use Navigator. You have to use one or the other.
2. Not running in the background built-in radio programme. That is, while playing the radio you can't use Navigator. You have to use one or the other.
3. Not running in the background audioclub built-in bluetooth . That is, when playing music from phone via bluetooth you can't use Navigator. So you have to use one or the other.
4. After the completion of the incoming call via the bluetooth Protocol SOMETIMES falls off the sound of the entire device. Most likely, the audio service bluetooth does not give audio device. You have to reboot the head unit by switching off the ignition.
5. I really want the joystick on the steering wheel could switch tracks on ALL the audio players and not just on the built.
6. Lost sound player and radio when you lock the screen (press on the power button), which is very inconvenient at night, since I want to eyes did not detract.
7. It is unclear how sync contacts via bluetooth. Some appear, some don't.
I received from the seller working firmware, music is now able to work together with NAV. If anyone needs - let me know.
Hi all. I have a 2011 Hyundai Accent that used to run a HuiFei KGL4 Hyundai-specific 7" unit. It's been one rollercoaster ride with that unit, having to deal with the following:
1) Underpowered USB ports (had to solder a voltage step-down converter to amp it up for it to work properly)
2) The latest ROM forces me to wait 30 seconds for the unit to shut down after turning off ignition, otherwise my PKE car alarm won't trigger as all doors are generally closed within that time frame because I've already stepped out of the car. Funny piece is there's no way out of this even if I go back to an older software, or use an MCU that doesn't support sleep
3) Weak FM radio
After messing real bad with #3 above, killing one channel off of my FM radio (only right channel is working now) after breaking the electronic links for one of the caps needed, I decided it's time to let go. Not to mention that the reseller that I've brought it from is no longer responding when it comes to asking for replacement parts and Kai Ge Le doesn't sell parts from products that weren't directly bought from them. Malaysk' great ROM helped me get through the day for a while, but hey, when you want a fully working product, you gotta move some time right?
The next dilemma was: should I go with Joying or any other HuiFei-based Android radio and potentially deal with the same thing? Then I thought... man, it's time to accept I'm not too good with soldering and I can't risk messing another brand new radio just for dealing with the same thing.
Long-story short, I went with a not so known MCU / manufacturer / reseller combo this time around for hopes I'd get different results. It may be a bit of a challenge to get support from the community granted none of my searches yielded any results for the MCU the device is using, but man... with how the ROM of this new unit working fluidly as it is, I'm finally content.
Some distinct differences with HuiFei:
1) Boot-up time. Before upgrading my KGL4 to RK3188, boot-up time was 30 seconds. When I upgraded to RK3188 roughly ~15 seconds. In this unit? I don't even notice waiting for boot. It properly turns off USB connected devices so my battery does not get drained- tried for 5 days now and has been consistently fine.
2) Next / Previous controls. I did not need to install Car Service for Next / Previous to be consistent on non-stock apps (Radio, Music, Video apps). If I press next or previous in my steering wheel on, say, Spotify or PCRadio, the behavior is the same. It goes to the next / previous track as expected, with no additional apps or configuration needed.
3) RADIO - I can't emphasize this enough. In days where I just want to use the radio instead of songs from streaming apps, man, this unit delivers! It subdues the static / hisses well, and clearly picks up the same radio stations that I used to have in my car's factory radio that the KGL4 one struggled to pick-up.
4) Bluetooth function - I was never able to get my KGL4 unit to pair with my OBD2 device, no matter how many times I've back-read in the different threads. In this new unit, it was able to detect and pair with it the first time I tried! The plus part is that the Bluetooth config of this new unit allows you to enter the pair code for devices that requires it - at least on this one I'm sure the HuiFei units cannot prompt for the pairing code of the other device.
5) Support for external hard drives. I was unable to connect a 500GB external drive in my KGL4 before until I did the USB mod. For this new unit, it supports it right off the bat. No mods necessary.
6) There's an actual WIFI antenna!
Another plus for me is the screen size upgrade. The new device has 9" of real-estate. I did lose DVD functionality and potentially not have the option to update the software to 5.1 (runs on 4.4), but I can live with those. If anyone's familiar or has the same MCU as mine, or shares the same software build, let me know. Maybe that will be a good reference for anyone who'd potentially buy units from them. In the meantime, TC Car Audio has a store in AE if you want to inquire (Store ID 1360064). Looks like they also have a couple of 5.1 devices, just not sure if it shares the same MCU / ROM combo.
DISCLAIMER: I do not work for TC car audio. Just passing along the positive experience I have with their product, and hoping to help others see that there are better options out there beyond the more known brands.
MCU: 2016-04-25 10:38:12 KEQ_60_C6R_7706_5006_CAN(DaZhongWC)_Newlap
jrgalang said:
2) Next / Previous controls. I did not need to install Car Service for Next / Previous to be consistent on non-stock apps (Radio, Music, Video apps). If I press next or previous in my steering wheel on, say, Spotify or PCRadio, the behavior is the same. It goes to the next / previous track as expected, with no additional apps or configuration needed.
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I'm more interested in this part. I wonder why this works on your unit, but not the majority of Anrdoid head units?
Can you try Pandora or Google Play Music? Does the app have to be open and in the main view for it to work? or will it work while playing in the background. Like say you are watching the Navigation with Pandora playing in the background from a Pandora app on the Android head unit, if you hit a track change with the Navigation app on the screen will it still change tracks?
CadillacMike said:
I'm more interested in this part. I wonder why this works on your unit, but not the majority of Anrdoid head units?
Can you try Pandora or Google Play Music? Does the app have to be open and in the main view for it to work? or will it work while playing in the background. Like say you are watching the Navigation with Pandora playing in the background from a Pandora app on the Android head unit, if you hit a track change with the Navigation app on the screen will it still change tracks?
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Microntek head units are using its own "layer" of virtual keys mapping (irkeyDown/up). It is useful from their point of view, because you have possibility to use long press behavior on hard keys. Android has its own definitions of key events and actually it is good habit to use them (in case of developing "steering widgets" and players developing as well). Probably microntek finally started to broadcast Android's defined key events among the system which caused support of many media players .
But that is only my theory .
CadillacMike said:
I'm more interested in this part. I wonder why this works on your unit, but not the majority of Anrdoid head units?
Can you try Pandora or Google Play Music? Does the app have to be open and in the main view for it to work? or will it work while playing in the background. Like say you are watching the Navigation with Pandora playing in the background from a Pandora app on the Android head unit, if you hit a track change with the Navigation app on the screen will it still change tracks?
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I couldn't try Pandora given where I'm at. But yeah, Google Play Music works just as same as Spotify. No need to have the app open, I mostly have Car Launcher Pro on screen OR my GPS app and I can hit next / previous even if the music apps are on the background.
jrgalang said:
I couldn't try Pandora given where I'm at. But yeah, Google Play Music works just as same as Spotify. No need to have the app open, I mostly have Car Launcher Pro on screen OR my GPS app and I can hit next / previous even if the music apps are on the background.
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wtf, I gotta figure out how to get that on my Joying.
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jrgalang said:
Hi all. I have a 2011 Hyundai Accent that used to run a HuiFei KGL4 Hyundai-specific 7" unit. It's been one rollercoaster ride with that unit, having to deal with the following:
1) Underpowered USB ports (had to solder a voltage step-down converter to amp it up for it to work properly)
2) The latest ROM forces me to wait 30 seconds for the unit to shut down after turning off ignition, otherwise my PKE car alarm won't trigger as all doors are generally closed within that time frame because I've already stepped out of the car. Funny piece is there's no way out of this even if I go back to an older software, or use an MCU that doesn't support sleep
3) Weak FM radio
After messing real bad with #3 above, killing one channel off of my FM radio (only right channel is working now) after breaking the electronic links for one of the caps needed, I decided it's time to let go. Not to mention that the reseller that I've brought it from is no longer responding when it comes to asking for replacement parts and Kai Ge Le doesn't sell parts from products that weren't directly bought from them. Malaysk' great ROM helped me get through the day for a while, but hey, when you want a fully working product, you gotta move some time right?
The next dilemma was: should I go with Joying or any other HuiFei-based Android radio and potentially deal with the same thing? Then I thought... man, it's time to accept I'm not too good with soldering and I can't risk messing another brand new radio just for dealing with the same thing.
Long-story short, I went with a not so known MCU / manufacturer / reseller combo this time around for hopes I'd get different results. It may be a bit of a challenge to get support from the community granted none of my searches yielded any results for the MCU the device is using, but man... with how the ROM of this new unit working fluidly as it is, I'm finally content.
Some distinct differences with HuiFei:
1) Boot-up time. Before upgrading my KGL4 to RK3188, boot-up time was 30 seconds. When I upgraded to RK3188 roughly ~15 seconds. In this unit? I don't even notice waiting for boot. It properly turns off USB connected devices so my battery does not get drained- tried for 5 days now and has been consistently fine.
2) Next / Previous controls. I did not need to install Car Service for Next / Previous to be consistent on non-stock apps (Radio, Music, Video apps). If I press next or previous in my steering wheel on, say, Spotify or PCRadio, the behavior is the same. It goes to the next / previous track as expected, with no additional apps or configuration needed.
3) RADIO - I can't emphasize this enough. In days where I just want to use the radio instead of songs from streaming apps, man, this unit delivers! It subdues the static / hisses well, and clearly picks up the same radio stations that I used to have in my car's factory radio that the KGL4 one struggled to pick-up.
4) Bluetooth function - I was never able to get my KGL4 unit to pair with my OBD2 device, no matter how many times I've back-read in the different threads. In this new unit, it was able to detect and pair with it the first time I tried! The plus part is that the Bluetooth config of this new unit allows you to enter the pair code for devices that requires it - at least on this one I'm sure the HuiFei units cannot prompt for the pairing code of the other device.
5) Support for external hard drives. I was unable to connect a 500GB external drive in my KGL4 before until I did the USB mod. For this new unit, it supports it right off the bat. No mods necessary.
6) There's an actual WIFI antenna!
Another plus for me is the screen size upgrade. The new device has 9" of real-estate. I did lose DVD functionality and potentially not have the option to update the software to 5.1 (runs on 4.4), but I can live with those. If anyone's familiar or has the same MCU as mine, or shares the same software build, let me know. Maybe that will be a good reference for anyone who'd potentially buy units from them. In the meantime, TC Car Audio has a store in AE if you want to inquire (Store ID 1360064). Looks like they also have a couple of 5.1 devices, just not sure if it shares the same MCU / ROM combo.
DISCLAIMER: I do not work for TC car audio. Just passing along the positive experience I have with their product, and hoping to help others see that there are better options out there beyond the more known brands.
MCU: 2016-04-25 10:38:12 KEQ_60_C6R_7706_5006_CAN(DaZhongWC)_Newlap
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Hello friend,
This is Nicole from Kaigele.
Sorry to tell you that,from your posted info and images,this unit is not from our factory.Maybe you need to contact your direct seller to get more help.
thanks
best regards
Nicole
Hi
Happy new year
I was given the following unit:
Joying JY-UM135N2PX5
MODEL PX5
PROCESSOR 8 Core 64bit CPU Cortex-A53Q1.5G
MEMORY 2.0GB
RESOLUTION 1024x600
MACHINE CODE 0600114C0000AA55
ANDROID VERSION 6.0.1
ANDROID SECURITY PATCH LEVEL October 1, 2016
BASEBAND VERSION Unknown
KERNEL VERSION 3.10.0,
BUILD NUMBER MXC89L-release-keys-20171207-V7.3
APP VERSION TP6735 0.0.57
MCU VERSION TP6735 4.33
From CPU X
CPU Model Octa Core 1.2 Ghz rockchip px5
System
Manufacturer rockchip
Model PX5
Board rk30sdk
Hardware rk30board
OS 6.0.1
I have been unable to find any info on "MCU Version TP6735".
Would any one know if there is a custom ROM for this unit?
Thanks
Ian
i dont have an answer, but how do you like the joying PX5? have you had any other android head units? if so, how does it compare?
IanHarwood said:
I have been unable to find any info on "MCU Version TP6735".
Would any one know if there is a custom ROM for this unit?
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Check this thread and ask for help there. They might know.
Joying PX5
CadillacMike said:
i dont have an answer, but how do you like the joying PX5? have you had any other android head units? if so, how does it compare?
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Hi
This is my second HU I had a Xtrons PF75Q5FA, the Joying is better than the Xtrons.
All the basic functions work well. No problems with the bluetooth or radio that sum people have had.
The WiFi seems very slow, connection signal strength OK just slow.
The display suffers from reflection making it hard to read at times, I fitted an anti-glare protector which helps.
The stock launcher is OK.
Tried using "Carwebguru" which I prefer, unfortunately when you press the physical 'Home' button the unit goes back to the default launcher,
using the soft 'Home' button works fine.
Generally I am happy with what is a basic unit.
If you would like some pictures I have had the unit apart (soldering of BT/WiFi cables is bad)
Ian
Tried there
surfer63 said:
Check this thread and ask for help there. They might know.
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Thanks for the reply.
I tried there first, no luck.
The default ROM has no major problems looking around just for fun.
Ian
IanHarwood said:
Hi
This is my second HU I had a Xtrons PF75Q5FA, the Joying is better than the Xtrons.
All the basic functions work well. No problems with the bluetooth or radio that sum people have had.
The WiFi seems very slow, connection signal strength OK just slow.
The display suffers from reflection making it hard to read at times, I fitted an anti-glare protector which helps.
The stock launcher is OK.
Tried using "Carwebguru" which I prefer, unfortunately when you press the physical 'Home' button the unit goes back to the default launcher,
using the soft 'Home' button works fine.
Generally I am happy with what is a basic unit.
If you would like some pictures I have had the unit apart (soldering of BT/WiFi cables is bad)
Ian
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Yes, please pics of the internals would be great!
Joying pics
marchnz said:
Yes, please pics of the internals would be great!
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Hope this works
https://1drv.ms/f/s!Ai7Pz5r5MSacoT1L1C7fgxx4Uyj9
All the best
Ian
UM135N4PX5 owners - how are you liking your head units? I'm inching closer to buying one...
IanHarwood said:
Hi
This is my second HU I had a Xtrons PF75Q5FA, the Joying is better than the Xtrons.
All the basic functions work well. No problems with the bluetooth or radio that sum people have had.
The WiFi seems very slow, connection signal strength OK just slow.
The display suffers from reflection making it hard to read at times, I fitted an anti-glare protector which helps.
The stock launcher is OK.
Tried using "Carwebguru" which I prefer, unfortunately when you press the physical 'Home' button the unit goes back to the default launcher,
using the soft 'Home' button works fine.
Generally I am happy with what is a basic unit.
If you would like some pictures I have had the unit apart (soldering of BT/WiFi cables is bad)
Ian
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Have you set Carwebguru as the defalt launcher in settings? The new one wont be able to do it on its own.
Soldering a legit SMA and antenna does wonders, did on my MTCB. My Joying PX5 wifi was ok, nothing to bother with changing.
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UM135N4PX5 owners - how are you liking your head units? I'm inching closer to buying one...
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My I ask what all you would like to do with this unit? What apps, music, nav, other? Listen to mp3s or streaming music? Your desired functions of the wheel controls?
carter.w.jason said:
My I ask what all you would like to do with this unit? What apps, music, nav, other? Listen to mp3s or streaming music? Your desired functions of the wheel controls?
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Here's what I'm hoping for:
Run a custom launcher
Run a few useful travel apps (GasBuddy, TPMS monitoring, trailer leveling app)
Be able to control what the source button on the front rotates through (AM, FM, SD card files, perhaps IHeartRadio, perhaps Spotify, etc.)
Backup camera
Video output (for GM's rear headrest displays)
I plan to use my phone as a wifi hotspot for any apps (i.e., GasBuddy) that require data.
chrispitude said:
Here's what I'm hoping for:
Run a custom launcher
Run a few useful travel apps (GasBuddy, TPMS monitoring, trailer leveling app)
Be able to control what the source button on the front rotates through (AM, FM, SD card files, perhaps IHeartRadio, perhaps Spotify, etc.)
Backup camera
Video output (for GM's rear headrest displays)
I plan to use my phone as a wifi hotspot for any apps (i.e., GasBuddy) that require data.
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Custom launcher: good to go
Travel apps: sleep may break functions, don't know.
Custom Source: This will require root, xposed, tasker, I only have ideas in theory in how this would work.
Backup camera:gtg
Video output: I believe video output will only happen from stock video app, it may be picky on formats, aspect ratio, etc..
About root, and xposed; Its not really fully tested yet. I've been able to do it over USB, other(s) has not. Even then my root is only temporary, it is lost on reboot. If your HU ever looses power (change car battery) you will have to re-root. I'm lucky that I can do it from my tablet, but it relies on the cloud (kingoroot), that does not make me comfortable in trying to future proof my head unit. Granted, you only need root once for xposed but there could be a feature or a work around that would suck to loose on reboot.
Issues with non stock music players. Spoitfy, for example will continue to play for 5mins after you turn off the car. There are workarounds, it's easier with xposed, tasker. Without root you have to trigger tasker off of wifi, or a ACC powered USB device to pause the music.
If you really like to tinker, I recommend the android headunits. Anticipate bench testing for some time before you install into auto.
I've posted about it before, but I'll again share my favorite piece of hardware.
RcJoyCon - Steering wheel interface
http://www.exinterface.com/cpjexc/
Works with CANBUS, IBUS, Restive controls, converts them to USB keyboard. When used with Xposed Additions, gives you crazy amount of SWC power. Single, double, triple clicks, double taps, triple taps, tap and hold, can all be task assignments in Android. It also allows to change button layout depending on app being used. I could't live without it, I "could" do "everything" from just my steering wheel controls.
carter.w.jason said:
About root, and xposed; Its not really fully tested yet. I've been able to do it over USB, other(s) has not. Even then my root is only temporary, it is lost on reboot. If your HU ever looses power (change car battery) you will have to re-root. I'm lucky that I can do it from my tablet, but it relies on the cloud (kingoroot), that does not make me comfortable in trying to future proof my head unit. Granted, you only need root once for xposed but there could be a feature or a work around that would suck to loose on reboot.
Issues with non stock music players. Spoitfy, for example will continue to play for 5mins after you turn off the car. There are workarounds, it's easier with xposed, tasker. Without root you have to trigger tasker off of wifi, or a ACC powered USB device to pause the music.
If you really like to tinker, I recommend the android headunits. Anticipate bench testing for some time before you install into auto.
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Wow, thank you for taking the time to type this all up! Lots of extremely useful detail aimed exactly at my planned usage.
I definitely plan on a solid amount of bench time configuring whatever I choose before installation - this is part of the reason I'd like to order sooner than later!
If I get lucky and my unit can root over USB, then I'm okay with the power-loss behavior because I can reroot without having to remove the unit from the vehicle (I think?).
The Spotify behavior sounds pretty annoying. Is this a Spotify issue that I'll face no matter which unit I choose, or is it something specific to the UM135N4PX5?
chrispitude said:
The Spotify behavior sounds pretty annoying. Is this a Spotify issue that I'll face no matter which unit I choose, or is it something specific to the UM135N4PX5?
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Common bug of these android head units. Can't really recommend PX5 right now.
Look into Joying sofia 3gr, Intel, still learning alot, but its the best option right now.
Does Sygic Navigation& Spotify work with this Unit?
I just need Auto dashdroid Launcher, Sygic & Spotify
carter.w.jason said:
Soldering a legit SMA and antenna does wonders, did on my MTCB. My Joying PX5 wifi was ok, nothing to bother with changing.
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I ordered their new 4GB PX5 unit, but currently have an older rk3188 unit they sold 2 years ago. I've loved it, minus the horrible radio reception despite the powered antenna in the car wired correctly and turning on.
Anything that can be done on these units to improve radio reception?
TheCleaner said:
I ordered their new 4GB PX5 unit, but currently have an older rk3188 unit they sold 2 years ago. I've loved it, minus the horrible radio reception despite the powered antenna in the car wired correctly and turning on.
Anything that can be done on these units to improve radio reception?
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Don't know if its even a issue, have not read anything about it. My units are still on my desk. Hope for the best so I can give my data use a bit of rest.
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peregrines said:
Does Sygic Navigation& Spotify work with this Unit?
I just need Auto dashdroid Launcher, Sygic & Spotify
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I know nothing on Sygic
Spotify will work. You will have to come up with your own method to pause and resume playback, on car start
@carter.w.jason
You have a PX5 and a Sofia. The Sofia units have a bug in their GPS HAL since the October ROM or so. It uses integers to calculate the m/s instead of floats. It means that the speed steps are going in 4 km/hr step up and down, instead of 1 km/hr steps. The GPSSpeedFix xposed module corrects this.
Does the PX5 have this same GPS HAL integer/float bug or is it functioning correctly?
surfer63 said:
@carter.w.jason
You have a PX5 and a Sofia. The Sofia units have a bug in their GPS HAL since the October ROM or so. It uses integers to calculate the m/s instead of floats. It means that the speed steps are going in 4 km/hr step up and down, instead of 1 km/hr steps. The GPSSpeedFix xposed module corrects this.
Does the PX5 have this same GPS HAL integer/float bug or is it functioning correctly?
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Wait...you mean the GPS problem is not present before October??
gtxaspec said:
Wait...you mean the GPS problem is not present before October??
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AFAIR I had this both in July (shipped from Joying) and Sept FWs.
gtxaspec said:
Wait...you mean the GPS problem is not present before October??
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I had the original July ROM on my Joying when I bought it and the bug was there from the start.
XTRONS Android 8.0 Octa Core 4GB RAM + 32GB ROM Multimedia DVD Player with 8" Display Custom Fit for Volkswagen | Seat | Skoda
I think you forgot to write your question or complaint about your cheap chinese car radio.
Pretty much what I am looking at just a universal double din.
Ask for this unit
I want to ask for this unit have a equalaizer and how band if have and have a sub woofer control level.?anyone know something because the official company don't know hi hi:Π
Yes have a equalaized band FM ,AM
Thank u for ur reply but me I ask is not for this band am fm but the equaliser band areas and the other questions is have a sub control level me old unit eonon ga6153f have this u know to tell me? Thanks.
I have this unit installed and yes, it has a software equalizer. It's 9 band with subwoofer control.
Does anyone have any issues connecting the head unit to their phone's WiFi hotspot?
crl0901 said:
I have this unit installed and yes, it has a software equalizer. It's 9 band with subwoofer control.
Does anyone have any issues connecting the head unit to their phone's WiFi hotspot?
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Did a firmware update which was provided by Xtrons support, and also there's an issue with Tasker if you have Tasker automatically start your hotspot when it detects your phone connecting to the unit's bluetooth. You need to install an additional Tasker plugin to fix this, it's called "Nougat+ Tasker Tethering Control".
I have the same unit. Is there a way to prevent all apps from closing when the unit goes into sleep mode?
XavierRavenberg said:
I have the same unit. Is there a way to prevent all apps from closing when the unit goes into sleep mode?
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Mine doesn't do that, so I'm not sure.
crl0901 said:
Mine doesn't do that, so I'm not sure.
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I think I will put all apps I want to run on startup on the first tab then. Even tasker doesn't boot at startup/wake up.
Which firmware do you run now?
How good is this unit?
Pros and cons?
I'm thinking on putting this one on a LEON MK2 2007
VoRtAn_MaDgE said:
How good is this unit?
Pros and cons?
I'm thinking on putting this one on a LEON MK2 2007
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I am pretty glad about this unit. Android has so much more options and capabilities than my older RNS510 unit.
Some cons that I have experienced is that the unit sometimes restarts itself. I am not sure yet what causes that.
And sometimes when I open multiple apps in a short period of time the unit freezes. The only way I got it to restart is to push the power button for +- 10 seconds.
In the 1 or 2 months that I have this unit, this only occcured 2 or 3 times.
One small little thing is that I wanted to use TomTom Navigation but the 3D view shows a blanco map with only the street names. So I just use Google Maps now.
And I found it very hard to get a decent reception with the DAB+ Antenna from Xtrons.
Overall I am glad with the unit. It is definitely an upgrade compared to my older version of the RNS510.
This unit responds very quickly and has a lot of options.
Let us know what your choice will be!
I'm thinking of getting one of these. What is the boot time?
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Rvnbrg said:
I am pretty glad about this unit. Android has so much more options and capabilities than my older RNS510 unit.
Some cons that I have experienced is that the unit sometimes restarts itself. I am not sure yet what causes that.
And sometimes when I open multiple apps in a short period of time the unit freezes. The only way I got it to restart is to push the power button for +- 10 seconds.
In the 1 or 2 months that I have this unit, this only occcured 2 or 3 times.
One small little thing is that I wanted to use TomTom Navigation but the 3D view shows a blanco map with only the street names. So I just use Google Maps now.
And I found it very hard to get a decent reception with the DAB+ Antenna from Xtrons.
Overall I am glad with the unit. It is definitely an upgrade compared to my older version of the RNS510.
This unit responds very quickly and has a lot of options.
Let us know what your choice will be!
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If you really want to improve your DAB+ you got to find your antenna amplifier in your car and it should look like this... https://www.kufatec.de/shop/media/images/popup/DAB-Antennensplitter-fuer-VW-Golf-7.jpg it fits almost in every Volkswagen/Audi/Seat or Skoda
If so, you have to swap your FM amplifier with a DAB+/FM amplifier, i know Calearo ain't cheap but is european made and it works really well in my car, and i had to install a sharkfin antenna to receive DAB+ and GPS because i had no other option. (sorry for the many adjusted posts, technical problems)
Want to upgrade my android 4.4 MTCB - I use Tomtom as navigation. The PB88UNVP is interesting as is had 4GB RAM. I've read android 8 units have problems with the 3D navigation of Tomtom. Is there a known fix for Tomtom, or is it possible to install Android 7 on this device (don't know if there's a (custom) ROM that works with this device).
ok, got a PB88UNVP. Tomtom - no 3D navigation. Will use an other navigation app.
Unit works fine, but the WIFI connection is not reliable. When waking up, the unit tries to connect to a access point. Sometimes that functions without any problems, but other times it doesn't find any access points (while I know there are). Turning wifi on or off does not help. From time to time, the wifi can't be turned on or off (seems to be frozen on the on/off toggle switch).
I like the unit, bit the wifi problem is a big problem for me. Is this a known bug / problem with this or other devices?
Highwaymaniac said:
ok, got a PB88UNVP. Tomtom - no 3D navigation. Will use an other navigation app.
Unit works fine, but the WIFI connection is not reliable. When waking up, the unit tries to connect to a access point. Sometimes that functions without any problems, but other times it doesn't find any access points (while I know there are). Turning wifi on or off does not help. From time to time, the wifi can't be turned on or off (seems to be frozen on the on/off toggle switch).
I like the unit, bit the wifi problem is a big problem for me. Is this a known bug / problem with this or other devices?
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yes getting the same problem on Xtrons PE88jccpl (Android 8, Octa Core) sometimes the wifi connects perfectly but other times getting authenticating, authentication errors. Also, having problems with the speed when its connected it starts out fast and perfect but slows down to .2 to .3 mbps after a couple of minutes. Xtrons support sent me a link to update and I updated both MCU and android but still getting issues. (I put the img and update.zip on a usb stick and once I inserted it asked if I wanted to update) Not sure if I am supposed to wipe the device after updating android
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yes getting the same problem on Xtrons PE88jccpl (Android 8, Octa Core) sometimes the wifi connects perfectly but other times getting authenticating, authentication errors. Also, having problems with the speed when its connected it starts out fast and perfect but slows down to .2 to .3 mbps after a couple of minutes. Xtrons support sent me a link to update and I updated both MCU and android but still getting issues. (I put the img and update.zip on a usb stick and once I inserted it asked if I wanted to update) Not sure if I am supposed to wipe the device after updating android
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Thanks for your reaction. I also received the download link for this update. MCU 2.88_3 and Android image with build date 20180703.
I installed this update this morning. Checked the wipe everything' option to be sure to have a clean install.
Had the wifi not connecting 2 times today with the new update
I've not noticed the speed collapsing. I did download navigation maps (couple of GB) without problems. When the Wifi does function it functions well, the next time the system wakes up from sleep it's an about 50% chance it functions.
Have you tried downloading the speed test app to test?
Hello Developers
First, I hope you are all safe!
I bought this HU from amazon, three month ago. It seemed to me to be a nice radio, but I shortly realized all the problems that these systems are bringing us.
Pros: for a basic user, works pretty fine, you listen music, watch videos, backup cam, rear monitors, 4g, wifi, bluetooth, touch screen. Just like a regular android system.
Cons: Bluetooth only connects to phones. Rear monitors don´t mirror HU, just external videos (usb, dvd, sd), extra settings codes NOT PROVIDED by tech support. I found 10x more helpful this forum rather than waiting 48 hours for a poorly written answer. JBL harness is just a mess. Sound quality is HORRIBLE. Im very picky (musician). the steering wheel works partially, just Volume Up/Down.
SO.... Now I would like to update the OS, my goal here is to be able to connect my cobra iradar by bluetooth, try to mirror the HU to my rear monitors and hopefully make this right!
SPECS
processor: ULTRAOCTA T8
android: 7.1.2
MCU: 5.3.19-123-10-E06101-171205
System version: V9.2.2_20180523.142211_ZYC2-FD
2GB RAM
32 ROM
questions:
Do you think an update might work? would improve anything?
Im already planning getting something else in case this doesnt work, but all this generic radios´android system are so messy and the specs the sellers provide are just not trustworthy...So if you could give me any advice that would be amazing!!!
UPDATE
How to mirror? Ok guys, so I figure it out how to mirror, now if not 100% mirroring but it is showing a path...
While watching a video, press home, now is minimized, like a small window and that´s the trick. Now rear monitor are mirroring, but this includes the video...
I guess it is obvious that this is not a hardware issue, but just a OS issue.
Again, It would be wonderful is you guys could give me some input on what specific files should I use in order to upgrade my OS and maybe getting the job done.
Thanks and stay safe!
Pablo
Hey guys!
I hope you all safe, maybe someone can help!
thanks
seems bluetooth is farked ON all chinese headunits. how many pennies are they saving crippling the bt?
ChiefWilNel said:
seems bluetooth is farked ON all chinese headunits. how many pennies are they saving crippling the bt?
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thanks for reply... I was thinking buying a 300 dollars new gear from aliexpress but it´ll be the same. It is not a bad radio overall, just all these annoying details...but the lack of support out of hizpo, it is awful...1 star max!!!
update on video output:
It does output headunit´s screen to the resthead monitors. you got to load the video first and then it will mirror everything on the back.
I tried 2 4g dongles. BOTH WORKED but not even great.
ZTE MF833V worked after closing the download mode. I used DC unlocker, extremely easy.
It connected at ATT network , 3g (with logo) and 9-12 megs per seconds download. I could not reach 4g although I was able with my laptop. So i think it is a android issue.
Huawei E3372H-153, it did not actually connect, but I think it was my fault because I did not set the APN. But I was able to check my host settings via web interface. Also, it is a little messy with USA networks but NO CHANGE needed. Which is cool!
Thanks for all the info around this place!
+UPDATED+
Unfortunately, My radio is jammed. It seems to be a very common problem on my Hizpo Radio:
SPECS
processor: ULTRAOCTA T8
android: 7.1.2
MCU: 5.3.19-123-10-E06101-171205
System version: V9.2.2_20180523.142211_ZYC2-FD
2GB RAM
32 ROM
2 days ago, volume and knobs stop working, steering wheel controls not operating, although I have touchscreen. I have not been able to restore it. It loaded once correctly, but 30 mins later it broke down again. Same problem, some settings works and some not.
I´ve tried to factory reset (code 7890) but it does nothing. So, I am trying to Hard reset. I haven´t found a solution yet, Im gonna be pressing RST buttom for a weekend figuring out the sequence.
If you can help me getting RECOVERY MODE, it would be really appreaciated
I will update
Stay safe y'all