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I know not all smart TVs have this option. Do I need to get a Samsung Smart TV? Right now I have a 55" 1080p samsung smart Tv but if I mirrorlink it the sides don't show because something from the QHD to 1080p conversion doesn't work right.
I have an old non smart TV (1920x1200) with an Amazon Firestick and Mirrorlink sees the firestick and I can mirrorlink through the firestick but it also doesn't show everything from my Tmobile Note 4 running Rapture ROM to the TV.
I'm looking for a TV or computer screen that will do a perfect mirrorlink from my note 4. I'd prefer a 4k that is known working with the note 4 as my next laptop will be 4k and I will use the tv/monitor as a 2nd monitor also.
Thanks
Does the rom have the build.prop edit to make mirrorlink work? Its to disable hdcp im pretty sure you can add it yourself
Hi there. I have the Nvidia Shield TV Pro and have been having trouble finding the right receiver.
First I purchased a Sony STRDH550 5.2 Channel 4K AV Receiver, and found out that it cannot handle 4K upscaling (which the Nvidia Shield TV does according to Sony) Technically it worked, but what would happen is the screen goes black then will show the input on tv. Almost like someone unplugs the HDMI and then reconnects. Best way I have thought of naming this is an HDMI Blink. It happens numerous (10 to 15 times) per day. So according to Sony this receiver was only 4K passthrough capable, which actually didn't even work, I had to connect shield directly to TV and use ARC for sound.
Second, I purchased an Onkyo Thank you-NR636 7.2 Ch -- which is advertised as 4K passthrough and 4K upscale capable. I still have the HDMI blink, but now it is not as often (2-3 times) per day.
The TV I'm using is a Vizio M50-C1 and is 4K HDMI 2.0 HDCP 2.2.
It has 4 30Hz HDMI ports and 1 60Hz HDMI port.
The only way I can get ULTRA 4K to play from Netflix is to connect it to the 60Hz port.
The other 30Hz ports are labeled 4K, and when connected will play with audio/video but will not broadcast in 4K. I do not understand this, so if anyone could shed some light that would be great. (I've tried every troubleshooting step I could think of) ie. unplugging all cables and plugging them back in sequence. After connection unplugging the power on the Shield TV and re plug. (Same with receiver and TV) I've tried other sources on the receiver and tried every HDMI port/input.
So I'm thinking of returning this Onkyo Receiver and purchasing a better/more expensive one. I would appreciate anyones feedback on their experience with the Nvidia Shield TV and 4K Receiver/TV.
Has anyone been able to get full 60Hz 4K and 720/1080 Upscaling from Receiver to TV to operate without any problems?
Are there any Receivers you could recommend to me that can handle this properly? Thanks for your help.
I cant answer your question directly as I haven't used 4k receivers, but have you considered that the HDMI cable could be faulty?
Unfortunately I already replaced both the HDMI cables with brand new gold plated HDMI 2.0 4K cables.
I might be able to shed some light.
Firstly it doesn't sound like your HDMI cable. There's actually no such thing as a HDMI 2.0 cable. It's the devices that are HDMI 2.0, and will work with any high speed HDMI cable.
Always plug a 4K device into a 60hz HDMI if possible. That way if any of the apps, or even the home screen want to run at 50hz or 60hz you won't experience a problem. Obviously if it's plugged into the 30hz port, the picture will disappear when the device outputs anything above 30hz.
You don't actually want your AVR to upscale your picture. Your 4K TV will do it automatically, and TV's generally do a better job than AVR's.
As for the HDMI blink, I'm not entirely sure (I've not actually plugged my shield into my 4K TV yet) it could be when the system switches resolutions, eg 4K to 1080p. The screen needs a little time to process the new source. My TV does that when my PC is hooked up, and I switch between a 4K desktop environment and a 1080p game.
If it's any help my AVR has no problem with any 4K material I've thrown at it. I use a Pioneer VSX 930.
The Shield TV, like all modern Nvidia devices, has a built in upscaler. No need for an external one and in fact, extra processing is likely to degrade gaming experience.
Using ARC is actually a good solution although that has the disadvantage of requiring the TV to be on just to listen to music.
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I might be able to shed some light.
Firstly it doesn't sound like your HDMI cable. There's actually no such thing as a HDMI 2.0 cable. It's the devices that are HDMI 2.0, and will work with any high speed HDMI cable.
Always plug a 4K device into a 60hz HDMI if possible. That way if any of the apps, or even the home screen want to run at 50hz or 60hz you won't experience a problem. Obviously if it's plugged into the 30hz port, the picture will disappear when the device outputs anything above 30hz.
You don't actually want your AVR to upscale your picture. Your 4K TV will do it automatically, and TV's generally do a better job than AVR's.
As for the HDMI blink, I'm not entirely sure (I've not actually plugged my shield into my 4K TV yet) it could be when the system switches resolutions, eg 4K to 1080p. The screen needs a little time to process the new source. My TV does that when my PC is hooked up, and I switch between a 4K desktop environment and a 1080p game.
If it's any help my AVR has no problem with any 4K material I've thrown at it. I use a Pioneer VSX 930.
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Thank you for the information. It's actually really helpful. Those were all things I was wondering but not sure. Another question for you; I primarily use the shield remote and not the controller. If I have the shield connected to the receiver with pass through, and I try to adjust the volume with the shield remote it does not work. It says this app is set for surround sound please use the tv remote to adjust the volume. Is this normal? On my previous receiver that didn't happen. I could adjust the volume with the shield remote. Any thoughts?
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The Shield TV, like all modern Nvidia devices, has a built in upscaler. No need for an external one and in fact, extra processing is likely to degrade gaming experience.
Using ARC is actually a good solution although that has the disadvantage of requiring the TV to be on just to listen to music.
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The arc solution does work. I get 4K video etc. but it still has the HDMI blink when playing non 4K content. The only solution so far I have found us to use the 30hz input on the TV, which eliminates the HDMI blink. Then when I way to watch 4K content, switch it back to the 60hz port.
I haven't tried changing the Nvidia HDMI settings to use the (less than 60hz) option. I think it's 27hz or something like that.
Does the TV work fine with another 4K source like a PC? You might also want to try a shorter and/or different brand of HDMI cable.
I have t tried another source. I'm not even sure my PC does 4K. Would I need a 4K graphics card? I will definitive try a different cable. I had previously used a gold plated cable that was a few years old, and that's when I noticed the HDMI blink. So I purchased two new ones from Amazon. I'm pretty sure they are the right ones, but would like to reassure if anyone knows.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NQ9OQU2/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
those should work, but if you are looking for a great AV receiver to use with this, I just bought a yamaha 2050, and everything works great!
http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-RX-A2050-9-2-Channel-MusicCast-Bluetooth/dp/B00YMN6E7O
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Thank you for the information. It's actually really helpful. Those were all things I was wondering but not sure. Another question for you; I primarily use the shield remote and not the controller. If I have the shield connected to the receiver with pass through, and I try to adjust the volume with the shield remote it does not work. It says this app is set for surround sound please use the tv remote to adjust the volume. Is this normal? On my previous receiver that didn't happen. I could adjust the volume with the shield remote. Any thoughts?
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HDMI control is a fickle beast. I find it works with some devices and not others. It could just be the combination of Shield and AVR you currently have.
I wouldn't be changing your AVR primarily on it's ability to function with your Shield though.
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I have t tried another source. I'm not even sure my PC does 4K. Would I need a 4K graphics card? I will definitive try a different cable. I had previously used a gold plated cable that was a few years old, and that's when I noticed the HDMI blink. So I purchased two new ones from Amazon. I'm pretty sure they are the right ones, but would like to reassure if anyone knows.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NQ9OQU2/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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If you have a 650 or above GPU (Kepler), it supports 4K output.
I have just overcome some 4k UHD issues with my Shield TV which are similar to the ones you described.
The main problem is HDCP 2.2....
This is what I found out.
Some time last year the HDCP standards were changed to require any 4K 60hz display to only accept a 4K 60hz UHD signal if it was wrapped in HDCP 2.2. Put simply - this means if any device in the connectivity chain is not HDCP 2.2 compatable you will not get a 4K 60hz UHD picture on your display.
For me this was a problem because my HDMI 4K UHD switch was not HDCP 2.2, and my LG 55EG960v refused the non-hdcp2.2 signal, so the shield TV would auto re-connect @ 1080p beacuse the connectivity chain was incompatible....
4K UHD Netflix requires HDCP 2.2, which is why it will only connect/work on the single HDMI input on your TV rated for 4k 60hz hdcp2.2...
The only way to guarantee a working 4K 60hz UHD signal is to ensure all your equipment is HDCP2.2 certified, or do some clever duplex routing.
Unitl this year HDCP2.2 equipment at reasonable prices was very scarce, but LIGAWO is a german manufactuer who seems to have just released a whole range of HDCP2.2 routers/switches/splitters etc (at reasonable consumer level prices).... I am sure there will be many more suppliers soon.
The rule of thumb I would use is - Unless the specification clearly states the device/equipment is HDCP2.2 compatable - don't go near it.....
I really, really hate DRM....
PS: It sounds like may not need to replace your expensive AV reciever, and what you want to achieve could be done through duplex routing. Happy to have a PM discussion if that would help. I currently run 5 consoles, 1 STB, 1Shield TV, 1 PC, and Chromecast audio, all with a Yamaha DSP Soundbar/Reciever (which is only HDMI 1.4 compatable), into 1 TV, and still can get 4k UHD 60hz + 7.1 HD audio.... So it can be done without replacing your AV reciever.
THIS IS AWESOME!! Thanks so much for this. Would you mind if I PM you later tonight when I get home from work? So would I also need a new router? Right now I have an Asus RTAC66U dual band. I also have a WD My Cloud EX4 that I stream videos from, would that need to be replaced also? I will PM you later if ok. Thanks again.
MintyTrebor said:
I have just overcome some 4k UHD issues with my Shield TV which are similar to the ones you described.
The main problem is HDCP 2.2....
This is what I found out.
Some time last year the HDCP standards were changed to require any 4K 60hz display to only accept a 4K 60hz UHD signal if it was wrapped in HDCP 2.2. Put simply - this means if any device in the connectivity chain is not HDCP 2.2 compatable you will not get a 4K 60hz UHD picture on your display.
For me this was a problem because my HDMI 4K UHD switch was not HDCP 2.2, and my LG 55EG960v refused the non-hdcp2.2 signal, so the shield TV would auto re-connect @ 1080p beacuse the connectivity chain was incompatible....
4K UHD Netflix requires HDCP 2.2, which is why it will only connect/work on the single HDMI input on your TV rated for 4k 60hz hdcp2.2...
The only way to guarantee a working 4K 60hz UHD signal is to ensure all your equipment is HDCP2.2 certified, or do some clever duplex routing.
Unitl this year HDCP2.2 equipment at reasonable prices was very scarce, but LIGAWO is a german manufactuer who seems to have just released a whole range of HDCP2.2 routers/switches/splitters etc (at reasonable consumer level prices).... I am sure there will be many more suppliers soon.
The rule of thumb I would use is - Unless the specification clearly states the device/equipment is HDCP2.2 compatable - don't go near it.....
I really, really hate DRM....
PS: It sounds like may not need to replace your expensive AV reciever, and what you want to achieve could be done through duplex routing. Happy to have a PM discussion if that would help. I currently run 5 consoles, 1 STB, 1Shield TV, 1 PC, and Chromecast audio, all with a Yamaha DSP Soundbar/Reciever (which is only HDMI 1.4 compatable), into 1 TV, and still can get 4k UHD 60hz + 7.1 HD audio.... So it can be done without replacing your AV reciever.
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So does this mean 650 or above GPU is for the receiver or media player? When you say 650 does that handle 4K passthrough, as well as full 4K upscaling from 480/720/1080p content?
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If you have a 650 or above GPU (Kepler), it supports 4K output.
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In the PC you're using as a source, to rule out the Shield as the problem. And yes, any Kepler or newer GPU (including the one built into the Shield) will upscale all the way to 4K, although the smaller ones won't be able to handle the most advanced algorithms. But unless you're a hardcore videophile, you'll be hard pressed to tell the difference between how well a high end GPU upscales as opposed to how well a smaller GPU upscales. Not surprising given that image scaling is just one of the most fundamental parts of 3D rendering.
mikie00mike said:
THIS IS AWESOME!! Thanks so much for this. Would you mind if I PM you later tonight when I get home from work? So would I also need a new router? Right now I have an Asus RTAC66U dual band. I also have a WD My Cloud EX4 that I stream videos from, would that need to be replaced also? I will PM you later if ok. Thanks again.
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I pm'd you some stuff.
Minty or Mike may I get a copy also please?
Minty I PMd you
Thanks!
mikie00mike said:
THIS IS AWESOME!! Thanks so much for this. Would you mind if I PM you later tonight when I get home from work? So would I also need a new router? Right now I have an Asus RTAC66U dual band. I also have a WD My Cloud EX4 that I stream videos from, would that need to be replaced also? I will PM you later if ok. Thanks again.
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thruster999 said:
Minty or Mike may I get a copy also please?
Minty I PMd you
Thanks!
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I have updated my config since I sent the details last, but I still duplex (or send multiple signals of the same HDMI source) to bypass the HDCP restrictions so I can continue to use my older soundbar. Picture with notes attached. Shout if you need anything more.
How can i connect my nexus 6p to tv?
As i read, my phone does not support the mhl, but if I use an adapter micro usb to type c , then can I use the mhl to hdmi to connect the phone to tv?
Thank you!
Omika said:
How can i connect my nexus 6p to tv?
As i read, my phone does not support the mhl, but if I use an adapter micro usb to type c , then can I use the mhl to hdmi to connect the phone to tv?
Thank you!
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Unfortunately I don't think itll work--mhl not supported. Your only option is probably to get a chromecast, or I have a nexus player that performs the same function--mirror display, cast.
Both can be had for pretty cheap, especially if you go with a used one on ebay. More money than an adapter, but not unreasonably more. Plus you can stay seated instead of walking to the TV.
So my only choice is the chromecast, isn't it? I have some questions about it. Can I watch on tv everything which i am watching on my phone? For example if one webpage have a video (non in youtube) and i open it via bsplayer or video gallery or something else, can i watch it on full screen on tv?
Thank you for helping.
Omika said:
So my only choice is the chromecast, isn't it? I have some questions about it. Can I watch on tv everything which i am watching on my phone? For example if one webpage have a video (non in youtube) and i open it via bsplayer or video gallery or something else, can i watch it on full screen on tv?
Thank you for helping.
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I dont own a chromecast, and I use fire tvs as my main streaming devices (lousy casting functionality except youtube & netflix). But I have played around with casting on nexus player. Id check to make sure it does what you want before buying but rule of thumb--if you see a cast icon in an android app/within the video box itll cast that video to the chromecast device. OR if you go into settings>display>cast --you can choose your chromecast device and itll mirror your phone screen to TV. Good luck
Omika said:
So my only choice is the chromecast, isn't it? I have some questions about it. Can I watch on tv everything which i am watching on my phone? For example if one webpage have a video (non in youtube) and i open it via bsplayer or video gallery or something else, can i watch it on full screen on tv?
Thank you for helping.
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Yes you can I can confirm this. I have Chromecast, I just mirror my phone to the screen and everything I do on my phone it shows on the Chromecast connected to the TV
I just got my 6p,i have my oneplus 2 and nexus 7 which has no problem with casting on my tv.Unfortunately google has disabled to "enable wireless display" option. I heard you can enable it if you root you're phone but for now i dont want to root my phone yet.
HI,
I've a samsung s9+ with original Dex station (not dex pad).
In resolution chooser i've only automatic, FHD and HD+ selectable. WQHD (2560x1440) is in gray and non selectable. I've tried both my monitor 2k and tv 4k. Max is 1080p.
It's normal?
In one s8 tread someone with the oreo update can switch 2k with this station.
reaper86111 said:
HI,
I've a samsung s9+ with original Dex station (not dex pad).
In resolution chooser i've only automatic, FHD and HD+ selectable. WQHD (2560x1440) is in gray and non selectable. I've tried both my monitor 2k and tv 4k. Max is 1080p.
It's normal?
In one s8 tread someone with the oreo update can switch 2k with this station.
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It may be power saving mode. Confirm it is not enabled.
xdatester11 said:
It may be power saving mode. Confirm it is not enabled.
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isn't enabled. in max power mode and WQHD+ enabled, same thing.
it's possible the DEX STATION (1st model) only support 1080p? Anyone use it with 1440p?
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isn't enabled. in max power mode and WQHD+ enabled, same thing.
it's possible the DEX STATION (1st model) only support 1080p? Anyone use it with 1440p?
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Original Dex supports only full hd, DESPITE Samsung claim for 4k. As far as I know neighter dex stations support 4k
reaper86111 said:
HI,
I've a samsung s9+ with original Dex station (not dex pad).
In resolution chooser i've only automatic, FHD and HD+ selectable. WQHD (2560x1440) is in gray and non selectable. I've tried both my monitor 2k and tv 4k. Max is 1080p.
It's normal?
In one s8 tread someone with the oreo update can switch 2k with this station.
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Same problem with me. I have the original Dex station and I plug it into my 4K TV and 1440p is grayed out. Really disappointed as that was one of the features I was mostly looking forward to
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There has been only one 1440p desktop screenshot on Google's image search with a Samsung Galaxy S9+ and Samsung DEX pad. It's also in German. I don't think the Galaxy S9 series with the DEX pad can do 4K or 2160p.
S9+ Dex pad all cables from samsung option greyed out on Sony 4k tv , WTF! SAMSUNG , XDA help lol !!!!!!
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bled82 said:
S9+ Dex pad all cables from samsung option greyed out on Sony 4k tv , WTF! SAMSUNG , XDA help lol !!!!!!
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Ok so I changed inputs on my sony XBR-43x800e from 3 to 2 and it enable the WQHD, which is strange since both are 4k ports per sony , Iswapped them back and forth again and now neither will go 4k for the Dex pad but both are for the xbox x . So just bad programming on samsungs part it would seem .
bled82 said:
S9+ Dex pad all cables from samsung option greyed out on Sony 4k tv , WTF! SAMSUNG , XDA help lol !!!!!!
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Ok so I changed inputs on my sony XBR-43x800e from 3 to 2 and it enable the WQHD, which is strange since both are 4k ports per sony , Iswapped them back and forth again and now neither will go 4k for the Dex pad but both are for the xbox x . So just bad programming on samsungs part it would seem .
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Is it still working for you to get wqhd on the dex? I bought the note 9 to use it with dex, but the option for wqhd is not available?? it is grayed out.
Sadly, I'm led to believe that the WQHD mode is limited to certain TV sets and limited supported refresh rates at WQHD resolution.
Most youtube video reviews of the dexpad show it greyed out. The only time I saw it work was on a youtube vid where it was connected to a samsung branded 4k TV. (And then the author of the video plugged it into a streaming capture device where the resolution went back down to 1080p)
I've got a Dell P2715Q 4K screen and in Dex mode its never done 4k, nor WQHD.
Except, if you get out of dex mode, and put it into screen mirroring mode - 4k does work. I can verify by opening the Menu on the Dell - the resolution and refresh rate is written in the corner is 4k 60hz. But in Dex mode I only get 1080p
Same problem here
I got a galaxy S9+ with latest update (oreo), 4k samsung tv (2018) and the 4k option is gray out. WTF Samsung
I had the issue with third party adapters, the wqhd is greyed out, but i got the dexpad and the wqhd showed up. I used same monitor and cables.
iyas87 said:
Is it still working for you to get wqhd on the dex? I bought the note 9 to use it with dex, but the option for wqhd is not available?? it is grayed out.
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I get mixed results, I feel it may be related to the tv and the phone and the reboot power up sequence and timing , until Linux on Galaxy is released I have no use for it , wifi direct with mirror cast/google cast/ whatever works ok for wireless display and then connect usb or bluetooth devices to phone . Netflix didnt work well over either so there goes one of my main things was 4k netflix without hotspot tethering .
Talking with Samsung support, they informed that it is not supported and possibly will work on S10 (but not sure (yes, the support said that))
As far as I understand, the output is limited to certain displays, mostly Samsung TVs. I'm using the Tewejia dongle which works, sort of. I've got WQHD working on a Vizio display but I'm not sure if that TV is just supported, or the dongle might have something to do with it.
I've got mixed results...
My 1080p LG TV didn't workout with the Dex Station.
My 1080p 9 years old AOC monitor did.
Any other monitor below 1080p didn't worked out too...
So I sold my Dex.
S9 + Samsung USB-C monitor directly attached to phone = FHD ??? How to overwrite max resolution settings?
Hello,
I hope first of all that I have caught the right thread here for my question and I've translated it properly.
I have, as the title says, a problem with my DeX-Pad and S9+. On 2 TV sets in the house nothing appears, if I have connected the Smartphone via DeX to the TV. The TV remains black, but the message "HDMI connected" (or something similar) appears briefly on the mobile phone display. The curious thing is that the whole thing works when I'm at the TV in the bedroom, but not at the TV in the living room and the study (where the whole thing is supposed to be used). But if I connect the LG V30 to all TVs via the pad, it works too! The first time I tried the S9+ recently, it worked in the living room, but not anymore.
I've already tried other power supplies for the pad and other HDMI cables. Also other HDMI inputs on the TV. Whereby it can't be due to the cables and HDMI ports, because it works on one device and on the other with the V30.
I also reset the TV and set the phone to factory settings. All without success. After several attempts I still haven't made any progress and wanted to ask here if someone can help me with the problem? Maybe someone has a solution or advice ready!
Is there any chance to get hdmi ouput vertically? I use my phone portrait mode and I want ky monitor show all full screen without huge borders. I mean I want outpt mirroring resolution like 1080 x 1920 ... Not landscape mode!
Got an Samsung tab today.. s5e and tried on my 55" LG OLED and no dice above HD+ and FHD as 1440p is greyed out.
I was on a 4k60 typeC cable and a Samsung Tablet device from 3Q 2019.
can be numerous of reasons... lack of potent hardware in the tablet, lack of native Samsung Dex cradle or cable, lack of high-res-support for an LG 4K OLED TV 2017.
whatever is the reason and if it is doable on Samsungs part, then Samsung needs to get it sorted otherwise Dex interface will be a dead dino, before it even got some legs to walk on.
The last thing Samsung should think about is limiting this DEX interface if they wanna give it a healthy chance..
thx for the thread, seems it is the norm and the majority have problems reaching above 1080p.
Hi. I bought a Galaxy Note10+ and tried multiple cables and adapters (except Dex Station or Pad) and it never allows me a resolution higher than 1080p when connected to my LG 4K monitor. Sucks.
However, I found the below in their official FAQ:
DeX accessories
Are there any differences between connecting my mobile device to a DeX Station or DeX Pad and connecting it to an HDMI adaptor?
FAQ
An HDMI adaptor doesn't have a fan that can cool your device down. Therefore the maximum number of windows you can open on your the screen of your TV/monitor is limited to five, and also the maximum resolution is limited to FHD only.
※ Note that if you're using an HDMI adapter with a tablet running on Android Pie or a later version, the highest supported resolution is UWQHD.
Hi Guys,
I try to clone Netflix be cause the mibox has a login stored (from people i don't see anymore) which i want to use on the philips tv.
Swift backup doesn't see netflix. I thought i'll backup Netflix whith Swift and restore it on the Philips TV.
If i'm correct i can't root the mibox without loosing 4k netflix quality.
Since you guys are the professionals i'm curious about your thoughts.
Thanks in advance.
Well this seems wrong. Why would you want to do something like that anyway.
Well, we have one dumb TV with the mibox for watching cable TV on that TV. The mibox needs to be hooked on that dumb TV to watch television. We bever watch netflix on that one.
The other TV is smart and in the main livingroom. Everytime we want to watch something on netflix (very rarely) we need to fysically move the mibox (just for that one time).
That 4 screen UHD netflix subscription is too expensive for the occasionally viewing