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[Q] Most Stable ROM for i9500

Hi, i had use some ROM in the past like Cyanogenmod(GearCM) and Paranoid Android, but Cyanogenmod have a really poor battery life, and Paranoid Android have some annoying bug, i'm looking suggestion for a stable rom with good battery life for daily use
Thanks

Every TW based rom.

zeulb said:
Hi, i had use some ROM in the past like Cyanogenmod(GearCM) and Paranoid Android, but Cyanogenmod have a really poor battery life, and Paranoid Android have some annoying bug, i'm looking suggestion for a stable rom with good battery life for daily use
Thanks
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hi ,
I like Omega Rom , fast , stable...good battery life ( depending in your settings)

You must be Kidding
So far by my BEST knowledge (Maybe I know a little or wrong),
there's NOTHING called as MOST STABLE ROM. It is your choice of flavors: PERFORMANCE VS FEATURES VS BATTERY LIFE etc.
WANAM, OMEGA, ECHOE, AOSB and a lot of stable ROMs are out there that you can use as a daily driver. Developers are working hard to give you a customized taste of your choice to the Android.

izephyr said:
So far by my BEST knowledge (Maybe I know a little or wrong),
there's NOTHING called as MOST STABLE ROM. It is your choice of flavors: PERFORMANCE VS FEATURES VS BATTERY LIFE etc.
WANAM, OMEGA, ECHOE, AOSB and a lot of stable ROMs are out there that you can use as a daily driver. Developers are working hard to give you a customized taste of your choice to the Android.
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Post of the day :highfive:

Which ROM do you like most?

I don't see any comparison in this subforum.
Perhaps we can compare and discuss different ROMs
Which do you like and why?
I only really test CyanogenMod 13 and Lineage OS.

Can I add something ---
Which ROM is best for GAMING?

Ah ah I just had the same question. I wondered why there were so many flavors of Lineage Os, and what were the difference. For the moment I have tested only stock (Alxndr's rom) and Lineage 14.1 Official.
- Lineage OS offical is great. The fingerprint recognition is lightning fast, and the rom is globally fast. There are lots of customization and options.
- Stock has however a better battery life, Ultra Power Saving Mode, camera and dialer.
I don't do gaming. However, I can tell the performance in antutu is equivalent (+/- 53.000). Stock had a better 3d score (11.000, vs 8.000 for LOS) and should do better for gaming.
My dream would be a Lineage OS with ported touchwiz framework for edge, camera, sms and dialer. Or a S7 nougat rom with ported LoS fingerprint.

I am running Vaniraosp these days.

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I am running Vaniraosp these days.
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And why

I am using LOS at the moment and it blazing quick the only thing is that my phone heats heat up!!

Resurection remix for customisation. Fast and very good battery life base on AOSP.
Envoyé de mon SM-G900F en utilisant Tapatalk

AOKP seems to have everything working that i have come across and gets nightly updates i like Cr Droid but was still getting rotation issue Kltedv hopefully that will be sorted in the next update

Official linage

Tried LOS, Resurrection Remix and crdroid. LOS is good but seems so vanilla in front of RR and crdroid.
I like features. Resurrection Remix has the most features. crdroid is similar but slightly less features, but excellent battery life of all.
I switched back to RR from crdroid in the hopes of getting battery life improvement with boeffla kernel, forcedoze, hebf optimizer, but not seeing it so far. May go back to crdroid.

@freefourlife
Battery life with crDroid so much better? Any disadvantages?

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@freefourlife
Battery life with crDroid so much better? Any disadvantages?
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No. Minor additional features in RR. Planning to switch back, as I couldnt get similar battery efficiencies even with custom boeffla kernel

I feel safer and more stable with official lineage OS, but this is only illusion in my head.

freefourlife said:
No. Minor additional features in RR. Planning to switch back, as I couldnt get similar battery efficiencies even with custom boeffla kernel
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You are in for a treat for v 2.1 when it will be released. They are improving it a lot in terms of performance and battery life.

based on stock mm, great bat life, nice mods on stock SUPERLite MiNi MM *361mb*

i tested AICP, LOS and CrDroid i want to test AOKP, the most developed was AICP, but the battery life and the ram usage was the worst, but it was the better choice, all the things worked, but i prefer LOS, Crdroid it has a lot of bugs in 2.0, i don't tested the 2.1 but a few users said that the sim card is not detected so i will wait, it has the best battery life compared with the other roms but a lot of things aren't working so it's not the best thing and LOS is vanilla but with little customizations, so it's really cool, the dev's can improve the battery life but, i think that if you use LOS is ok for daily use.

I really like LINEAGE OS official. But I use custom TW roms just because I prefer TW camera . So I hope to use LINEAGE OS with ported TW framework for stock or N7 camera .

tommygun198 said:
based on stock mm, great bat life, nice mods on stock SUPERLite MiNi MM *361mb*
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Do you like TouchWiz?

dokmanXYX said:
i tested AICP, LOS and CrDroid i want to test AOKP, the most developed was AICP, but the battery life and the ram usage was the worst, but it was the better choice, all the things worked, but i prefer LOS, Crdroid it has a lot of bugs in 2.0, i don't tested the 2.1 but a few users said that the sim card is not detected so i will wait, it has the best battery life compared with the other roms but a lot of things aren't working so it's not the best thing and LOS is vanilla but with little customizations, so it's really cool, the dev's can improve the battery life but, i think that if you use LOS is ok for daily use.
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Never tested AICP, but there are daily updates I see.
crDroid has different problems I recognized that, too. And few updates.
I only have a very small test with AOKP, everything seems working.
At the moment using LineAge OS with (nearly) no bugs. Battery life is OK, but not perfect. Performance seems good, no problem at the moment.
But I'm always interested in other ROMs or interesting features etc.

derAndroidler said:
Do you like TouchWiz?
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why, you can use any launcher you like

ROM with best battery life that is not based on TouchWiz

I bet that this has been asked a lot, but since I've haven't found anything that is concise, I'm here to ask it again.
I have a SM-G900M model which currently is running my customized TouchWiz firmware, but I want it to run with Android 7 to have the latest features and to give it a little more lifetime. I've tried LineageOS, but it drains battery too darn quickly to be a daily driver. Is there any really good alternative or I'm out of luck?
Thanks in advance.

CM13-based ROMs (inc. RR 5.7.4) generally have better battery life in my experience.

Saber said:
CM13-based ROMs (inc. RR 5.7.4) generally have better battery life in my experience.
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CM13 is based on Android Marshmallow, which I already use. I want something based on Android Nougat, so I can give my phone a little more lifetime

[Q/Debate] Stock vs LOS based, in terms of performance.

I have been using custom rom on this device since i bought it and took it out of the box (4-5 months ago).
To be honest and coming from other "superior" device, in terms of performance this device never disappointed me, for me it's like a "diesel car", you'll not have the power that maybe you are able to get whether you have a device powered by a Snapdragon 800-35 series. But this device ever performs very decently in every task, without major troubles.
Today i used my girlfriend's G4 Plus Dual-SIM XT1641 (totally stock, non-rooted, no anything, besides the lot of trash apps/games and Google bloatware that she has installed) and surprisingly i felt it much more "light/fast", for example when scrolling. So, i decided to make comparissions using the so much hated benchmark test (Geekbench 4 specifically, and AnTuTu 3D).
My results were:
Stock Nougat (7.0 June security patch):
Single-core: 742
Multi-Core: 3081
Stock LineageOS 14.1 (without modifications):
Single-Core: 662
Multi-core: 2314
The stock G4 plus did the test 5 minutes more quickly than the other one (mine XT1641 Single-SIM).
Then, i did the same test with AnTuTu, the result was similar, the stock one scored like a 20% better, and ended the test 3-4 minutes first. But the important thing for me was in the graphics test (GPU), honestly the stock one destroyed my device (running 14.1) in terms of graphic smoothness (FPS). The graphics in my device were really slow and i could see this slowdown in real time (running the test in both devices side to side, in the same time) [5/7FPS less than the stock one].
I use LineageOS 14.1 with his stock kernel, as it comes.
The obvious question:
[Question]: Why this happens?
I ask this because in every device that i owned the results were the opposite, i mean: CyanogenMod/LineageOS was pretty superior than the Stock rom (in terms of performance and even in benchmarking tests).
Don't get me wrong and think that i am complaining about the custom rom performance, in fact, i love (and i'm currently using) custom roms. I am just curious about the reasons of these results.
Your opinions are really welcome.

I never use or trust benchmarks. I always go off by what feels better to me.

reCoded said:
I never use or trust benchmarks. I always go off by what feels better to me.
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Definitely that's te way to go. :good:

I can also say that stock is alot smoother than the custom ROMs. Gaming performance is also better and I've even tried asking why custom ROMs gaming performance suffers compared to stock but no one seems to respond

I've tried LOS and ViperOS on my G4 Plus (XT1640 2gb RAM). The performance was much better with both custom ROM's, It was very snappy, held more apps in memory and was a more pleasant experience. Stock ROM perfoemance is not bad, but I see very clearly that the apps won't stay im memory for long and often I have scrolling lag when using facebook on chrome. For gaming I havent noticed any diference whatsoever.

danilomrx said:
I've tried LOS and ViperOS on my G4 Plus (XT1640 2gb RAM). The performance was much better with both custom ROM's, It was very snappy, held more apps in memory and was a more pleasant experience. Stock ROM perfoemance is not bad, but I see very clearly that the apps won't stay im memory for long and often I have scrolling lag when using facebook on chrome. For gaming I havent noticed any diference whatsoever.
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What games have you tried?.
I've tried bleach brave souls and I get seriously bad lag compared to stock.
Although you are right about stock having bad memory management

yes even i feel the same in custom roms while scrolling or even while pulling the quick settings bar there is a lag but stock rom is pretty smooth and even the battery backup on stock is better than many custom roms but for most of the people thats ok and they dont care about these things and they like the customizations and theme support and many other features that are not available in stock
i personally feel like i can literally see the battery percentage going down in custom roms too fast

krishna8691 said:
yes even i feel the same in custom roms while scrolling or even while pulling the quick settings bar there is a lag but stock rom is pretty smooth and even the battery backup on stock is better than many custom roms but for most of the people thats ok and they dont care about these things and they like the customizations and theme support and many other features that are not available in stock
i personally feel like i can literally see the battery percentage going down in custom roms too fast
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Try the aosp one's like omni, aosp extended, ultra-caf, du, cypher (btw official 4.1 is out), pure nexus, cosmic they are smoother than most of the lineage based one's.

In my opinion, I'm thinking that if you root the phone the performance decreases. The more you do, the more the performance decreases. Stock roms all always better for me.
Will you install an stock rom or stay in linage??

andres88_ said:
In my opinion, I'm thinking that if you root the phone the performance decreases. The more you do, the more the performance decreases. Stock roms all always better for me.
Will you install an stock rom or stay in linage??
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I am on stock right now, rooted with EX. I obtained the same results as the post (with Geekbench 4). I know that the score isn't really important, anyway, i will use this rom a couple of days, to take better conclusions.

I notice that on stock, I get 5-7 hours of SoT, but on any ROM, even stock aosp, I get 3-4 hours. Quite strange.

I am by no means an expert on this but maybe the Moto stock rom is just much better than most stock ROMs. Where a custom rom may show performance improvements over other custom ROMs, they aren't an improvement over other stick ROMs? I don't know . I think the developers of ROMs for our device have done a fantastic job and I enjoy the customizations the ROMs offer. After having hard bricked my last phone twice (unable to bring back to life the last time), I am sticking with a locked bootloader and stock for awhile. Don't want to have to replace my phone again.

Multi-core: 2330 with Cypheros 7.1.2

MisterSteve said:
I am by no means an expert on this but maybe the Moto stock rom is just much better than most stock ROMs. Where a custom rom may show performance improvements over other custom ROMs, they aren't an improvement over other stick ROMs? I don't know . I think the developers of ROMs for our device have done a fantastic job and I enjoy the customizations the ROMs offer. After having hard bricked my last phone twice (unable to bring back to life the last time), I am sticking with a locked bootloader and stock for awhile. Don't want to have to replace my phone again.
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Totally agreed, developers like Silesh.Nair, Jleeblanch, vache, and others did amazing jobs here. We are lucky to have devs of that level, because we have ROMs of quality and variety for this device. Thanks for your great opinion.

lCrD512 said:
Try the aosp one's like omni, aosp extended, ultra-caf, du, cypher (btw official 4.1 is out), pure nexus, cosmic they are smoother than most of the lineage based one's.
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I installed OmniROM yesterday, used it for a while, and yes, it runs much more smoother than the LOS based ROMs i've tried, also i did the Geekbench 4 test, the results were: Multi-Core: 3081, Single-Core: 738, hence, the test is not lying (same results as the stock rom).
Still i do not know why the performance of the LOS baseds rom is not like the AOSP ones. I am not saying this only based in the results of a test.
I am currently on RR because i love his customization and features, but i see the difference when i try AOSP in terms of overall performance.

moonlightdrive said:
I installed OmniROM yesterday, used it for a while, and yes, it runs much more smoother than the LOS based ROMs i've tried, also i did the Geekbench 4 test, the results were: Multi-Core: 3081, Single-Core: 738, hence, the test is not lying (same results as the stock rom).
Still i do not know why the performance of the LOS baseds rom is not like the AOSP ones. I am not saying this only based in the results of a test.
I am currently on RR because i love his customization and features, but i see the difference when i try AOSP in terms of overall performance.
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Which ROM did you recommend for more battery and performance? Based on your device and your experience.

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Which ROM did you recommend for more battery and performance? Based on your device and your experience.
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OmniROM, without a doubt. I tried plenty of roms, it's seems to be the only purely AOSP based. This rom performs like the stock one but whit the plus of a better battery life.
The only bad thing about Omni could be that is has not all the features that the LOS based ones offers, like Invicta or RR.

well, that's right. for me stock rom also feels a lot smoother faster and battery life is incredible. best stock software i've seen from motorola. i like custom roms and all the possibilities they bring, and we already have some very stable like invicta, or LOS. but i love this phone on stock (and debloated hehehe)

What rom is the smoothest and stable? Did anything come close to stock?

I've tried AICP and lineage, both Oreo. Both had just don't run well when compared to stock ROMs. I see an OG pixel with similar hardware operate as smooth as butter. Any smooth ROMs?

daevion0 said:
I've tried AICP and lineage, both Oreo. Both had just don't run well when compared to stock ROMs. I see an OG pixel with similar hardware operate as smooth as butter. Any smooth ROMs?
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Hi. I am currently with aosp extended 5.4 and it works very well between this and Validus 1.7 I think they are the best I've tried, in my opinion.

Oreo for our device as of now isn't in good state if you want the stability. Big battery drain and some minor different problems here and there are present in every oreo rom.
I'd suggest some stable nougat roms like omnirom, mokee or paranoidandroid. Battery life is good and phone feels perfect in everyday usage.

Aicp is one of the smoothest very good in nearly every way as is aosp extended,lineage,RR,aosip,validus and some I've missed (all oreo)are really good.I don't experience the lag and instability and battery is pretty good too.