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SGS 3 days on......

Now that I have had a few days playing with my new phone I thought I would leave some feedback.
Firstly the screen is amazing! I have had several iphone4 owners grovelling at it.
Swype is a touch of genius! I am using it now to type this and its fast as hell!
The battery usage is pretty severe compared to what I expected! Does apps like juice defender work?
Gps is flakey! My tracks was bouncing all over the place, so I guess I am joining the rest of you praying for a firmware fix. I will try co pilot tomorrow to see if its usable.
Lag was a problem, however have been using advanced task manager and it seems to help. I know rooting is supposed to be better with autokiller, but I believe rooting invalidates your warranty? Also, when I reboot my phone I have about 150mb free, but after a days use using adv task man I only have 55ish.
Anyhow in all I am happy with the phone, just need to work on the gps and lag.
Btw, how do I figure out my firmware number?
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in settings, about, and somewhere down the line.
You should be really restrictive when killing processes. Use the ignorelist for just about everything that might be used somehow by something.
Example, start the camera and it can take 2 - 4 sec to be ready to shoot. Have it idling in the background and its up in a split second. This goes for everything.
The onlu thing I kill is games, market and some other useless stuff i tend to run sometimes. Remember: you dont need a lot of free memory, for a quick phone you need your often-used-apps idling and loaded in mem.

djglenn1337 said:
Now that I have had a few days playing with my new phone I thought I would leave some feedback.
Firstly the screen is amazing! I have had several iphone4 owners grovelling at it.
Swype is a touch of genius! I am using it now to type this and its fast as hell!
The battery usage is pretty severe compared to what I expected! Does apps like juice defender work?
Gps is flakey! My tracks was bouncing all over the place, so I guess I am joining the rest of you praying for a firmware fix. I will try co pilot tomorrow to see if its usable.
Lag was a problem
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Similar to my imrpessions in the first days. Screen is outstanding, the only reason I keep wanting to keep the phone. Swype is nice but didn't get used to it.. still type faster on my Nokia E72...but that is a matter of practicing.
GPS.. *sigh*. No comments. It is useless.
Also the lag was annoying but I won't complain much on that since I never tried any of the unofficial fixes.... still, out of the box it is a problem, definitely something Samsung didn't polish well enough.

Plenty of lag and memory fixes available.
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is lag really a major issue out of the box?

yeah theres a decent amount of lag out of the box, but TONS of fixes available

About the battery, OP, wait untill you pass 5-7 initial charge cycles. Battery time increases twofold or more.
On my first battery cycle, it wasted out in around 11 hours.
Now i get more than 2 days of heavy use, and up to 6 of light use.

rocketpaul said:
is lag really a major issue out of the box?
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what lag?
i've not yet applied any so called "fixed" and i download all kind of free apps i can find in the market, and i don't have any noticeable lag
stock rom UK and Bell version

AllGamer said:
what lag?
i've not yet applied any so called "fixed" and i download all kind of free apps i can find in the market, and i don't have any noticeable lag
stock rom UK and Bell version
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yeah come on !! what lag ?? I didn't see any thread talking about lag, any video .. nothing
There are lag fix but it is not to fix the lag ... as it doens't exist

djglenn1337 said:
The battery usage is pretty severe compared to what I expected! Does apps like juice defender work?
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Yes. Buy it (ultimate Juice). You won't be let down.

AllGamer said:
what lag?
i've not yet applied any so called "fixed" and i download all kind of free apps i can find in the market, and i don't have any noticeable lag
stock rom UK and Bell version
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Your SGS must be really different from mine, perhaps even one of the 6 units that were released in proper shape worldwide. Hang on to it.
Not only you have no GPS issues but you also have no lag.
Mine has no GPS and it lags on the stock ROM (JM2)
Sure. There are lag fixes. And you can always buy an external GPS unit for only 150€ or so.
I just have the nasty habit of presuming I won't need to fix anything right after unpackaging and booting or pay more after spitting out 599€ for a "cutting edge" smartphone.
Customers... always so ungrateful and never pleased. /spit.

Pika007 said:
About the battery, OP, wait untill you pass 5-7 initial charge cycles. Battery time increases twofold or more.
On my first battery cycle, it wasted out in around 11 hours.
Now i get more than 2 days of heavy use, and up to 6 of light use.
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how many days passed since you bought the phone, and how many charging cycles?

Highl1 said:
how many days passed since you bought the phone, and how many charging cycles?
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It also varies based on your applications though. With some applications running, phone can't sleep properly.

Pika007 said:
About the battery, OP, wait untill you pass 5-7 initial charge cycles. Battery time increases twofold or more.
On my first battery cycle, it wasted out in around 11 hours.
Now i get more than 2 days of heavy use, and up to 6 of light use.
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I really hope your right, as mine is still not great tbh.
I will try ultimate juice to see if that helps..
Should I be doing anything in specific in the charge cycles? i.e letting it fully discharge, or anything else?
Ref Lag;
I did experience it out of the box, but only after using lots of multiple apps. I found that task killer fixed the problem, and I have not tried any other fixes.
However I still cant understand my RAM usage.
150MB free on boot, which then decreases to 130MB after say an hour.
2+ Hours later I am down into the 90's...and after 8+ hours into the 60's.
This is using task killer regular enough...so not sure why it happens.
Thanks for the replies guys, much appreciated.

Mine could sometimes take up to 10 seconds to open the phone app on the stock rom. Very annoying. Especially when there's an incoming call and you can't answer because the answer key just won't show up. Now I'm running the jg5 rom and samset 1.6 rom. And everything is lightning fast now. Faster than my iphone 4.

Using the Galaxy S as well for a while now. The phone is AWESOME. After the lagfix this is the best android device I ever messed with. I thought I would want to change the launcher but after getting used to the iPhone like design, touchwiz is actually one of the best skins I have seen. Rotates both ways, you can change the order of the homescreens easily and you can have as many as you want up to 7. It offers some cool widgets just like Sense does and the menu can be all reorganized and not be mixed up by alphabetical order. Even the built in keyboard is awesome for me. Fits with the rest of the design and its multitouch enabled. And you have Swype preinstalled if you want that as well. The camera is awesome and despite the lack of flash you can still take some really decent pics with this if there is some light around.
The screen is just on the sweet spot. 4" with Super AMOLED. Im in heaven really lol.
Even my mum that is a complete iPhone addict is now surrendered to this phone capabilities. Nice job by samsung and obviously by the genius who developed the lagfix and 1 click root.
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So i just got my galaxy s and there doesnt seem to be any lag at the mo.
Why is my baseband 19000nejg1?

Beowulf_pt said:
Your SGS must be really different from mine, perhaps even one of the 6 units that were released in proper shape worldwide. Hang on to it.
Not only you have no GPS issues but you also have no lag.
Mine has no GPS and it lags on the stock ROM (JM2)
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It's worth noting though that Beowulf_pt complained that reports of poor GPS and lag were the things holding him back from purchasing this phone (so I'm honestly wondering why he purchased the phone in the first place). Especially since purchasing it every post he has made seems to have been complaints about the GPS..
The Lag exists, but it doesn't make the phone unusable. Agreed it could be better, but whether it really affects anyone is questionable. It may be mostly fixable by switching scheduler and caching better. Remember, phones such as the Nexus one might be better currently, but they also shipped with a deluge of problems which are now fixed too.. Even the iPhone 4 did..
The GPS does have obvious issues (the accuracy indicator is still wrong, which to me suggests software), but other than the GPS, I am still happy with the phone. Also remember the battery issues depend on what you are running (some apps don't let the phone sleep properly).
I'm still happy to give them until Froyo to fix it. If Samsung doesn't fix it properly by then (and instead does something silly like tell us the "signal strength indicators are wrong"), then I'll try to get a refund. But at the moment, I'm willing to give them a chance.

It is surprising to read people who have no gps problems or lag issues straight out of the box, either they are very lucky and have bought fully functionaly sgs or are quite used to devices which take awhile to respond (I think it is the latter)!
Certainly there are fixes out there to improve the gps and lag issues but none have completely resolved the problem. I'm using JM5 which is working brilliantly and gps seems to work quite accurately especiallywith co-pilot no-other fix has been applied (to scared to!), the lag has also improved significantly but it does occassionaly freeze.
I'm also willing to give the boys at sammy a chance till 2.2 version is out or till Desire HD is launched, which ever comes first. Till then this is the best device out there inmho.

I too didn't notice any lag, until I installed the fixes, then the lag was noticeable as the phone was MUCH smoother.

I have to say, the stock epic 4g is a great phone

With all due respect to the great developers we have here, the Epic 4g, just as stock, not even rooted, with either launcherpro or my current favorite: go launcher ex, plus whatever apps you want is a very good phone.
If I hadn't rooted my phone, the main difference is that I wouldn't be able to use titaniumbackup to make sure if my phone crashes, I can get my app, calls and messages back. I also restart faster because of my root restart button, but that's both minor and almost the full extent of what my phone can do that the next person on stock cannot do.
Oh, I have a bunch of battery and performance tweaks that I don't even understand in my rom. So my phone probably runs smoother and longer for a given intensity of usage than it did out of the box.
But while I am very thankful to the developers for making this phone much better, I'm also thankful to Samsung and Sprint for giving the developers a lot to work with.
If a person around me pulls out an iphone 4s, it has a smaller, duller, more fragile screen, no keyboard, not as good sound since I have voodoo (that too). For me, my phone that came out a year earlier is just better. In fact, I pretty much have the best phone available with a keyboard. Other than its newer clone on Verizon.
I also think 4" may be the optimal screen size for a phone for me. I'm not excited about my next phone two or so years from now having a 4.5" or bigger screen.
On top of that, not everyone does, but I have my phone on Boost mobile (thanks developers here) and pay $45 a month for unlimited 3g, talk and messages. I'm in cell-phone nirvana by 2011 standards.
Sprint and Samsung got me 75% there and the developers at xda brought me the rest of the way home.

Not incorrect on many counts. I was stock until after Froyo except my 1 month test of DK28. Mainly, I'm in agreement that rooting allows you to tidy up the place and put in fresher decorations.

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Not incorrect on many counts. I was stock until after Froyo except my 1 month test of DK28. Mainly, I'm in agreement that rooting allows you to tidy up the place and put in fresher decorations.
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Being I came from WinMo to the Epic, it was nice to see that you didn't have to run a custom rom just to have the phone work.

shane6374 said:
Being I came from WinMo to the Epic, it was nice to see that you didn't have to run a custom rom just to have the phone work.
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Exactly !!! I came from TP2 Windows straight to epic and i loved stock, but with the great developers on here i love all the hacks and mods and roms they do!!!

I still don't have a compelling enough reason to switch from rooted stock EC05, although I've tweaked it plenty. I'm sure many roms are great but there's no killer look or feature that's lured me. The phone will be even better once stock GB hits.

I switched back to stock a few weeks back. A few observations:
Battery life is better than it was with any of the ROMs I was running, particularly the ROMs that weren't SRF 1.2. Signal strength is also better than it was with most of the ROMs.
On the other hand, I've noticed an odd issue where my Epic randomly vibrates (like, two quick pulses) and then either crashes or restarts the launcher. Dunno what this is about or why it happens but it's pretty annoying.

I just recently made the switch back to stock as well.. Sometimes you just miss it.

dead78 said:
I switched back to stock a few weeks back. A few observations:
Battery life is better than it was with any of the ROMs I was running, particularly the ROMs that weren't SRF 1.2. Signal strength is also better than it was with most of the ROMs.
On the other hand, I've noticed an odd issue where my Epic randomly vibrates (like, two quick pulses) and then either crashes or restarts the launcher. Dunno what this is about or why it happens but it's pretty annoying.
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Mine would do that without crashing sometimes on stock.

dead78 said:
On the other hand, I've noticed an odd issue where my Epic randomly vibrates (like, two quick pulses) and then either crashes or restarts the launcher. Dunno what this is about or why it happens but it's pretty annoying.
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i get this on stock and custom. i think it may be related to the sd card?

The Root said:
Mine would do that without crashing sometimes on stock.
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enter260 said:
i get this on stock and custom. i think it may be related to the sd card?
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I don't really recall this happening while rooted. Also, this is a problem that's started happening relatively recently. I was initially running stock for at least six months before ever rooting and I don't recall the Epic ever crashing. I got a bit tired of some of the other issues with ROMs and went back to stock again last month. Maybe I'll get the thing checked out at a Sprint store.

Yes, the Epic is a great phone stock, but a large percentage of your reasoning still great came from modified content.
What I took from your post was was: the stock Epic is a great phone, and the devs at XDA provide the few needed tweaks to fix anything that isn't already perfect with it. That's my opinion as well.

dead78 said:
I don't really recall this happening while rooted. Also, this is a problem that's started happening relatively recently. I was initially running stock for at least six months before ever rooting and I don't recall the Epic ever crashing. I got a bit tired of some of the other issues with ROMs and went back to stock again last month. Maybe I'll get the thing checked out at a Sprint store.
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make sure you take it to the one that "accidently" loads Gingerbread on it

[Q] LG G2 Battery/CPU Overheating During Miracast with Streaming Video

Edited 2/11/2014. I am running Sprint ZVA, stock. Removed "sprint variant" from title due to a tmobile report as well of same issue.
Have found a problem with my G2 that only seems to occur when running miracast. I recently purchased the tronsmart t1000 to miracast from my G2 5o my Sony bravia tv. Now the tronsmart runs the Ezcast app available from the Google play store.
When activating miracast you use the ezcast app. However once connected you can exit from the app. It does not run in the background. The miracast service is on, wifi remains on but the phone data connection is what is being used. Everything is fine but when I run a video app be it Netflix, crackle, or any other my phone (via battery monitor) reaches 48°C within about 10-15 minutes of streaming. Video performance begins to suffer at that point and lags, stutters, etc.
I have disabled every background service I can think of. No syncs, no gps or location services on. I am running stock zv9, bebloated (frozen via titanium), rooted. I had the same issue on zv8. I have also used the screen off app to eliminate extra heat from the screen being on during casting.
I will note that I had this same problem before I even rooted my phone and debloated it on the stock zv8 rom.
I have contacted the ezcast folks in china but they say their tests with G2 do not overheat although they cant test netflix and the like because of being in a different country. I contacted netflix to see if I could report the problem and they acted like useless tools. One rep even told me that LG writes the netflix app so I need to report it to LG... lmao.
So, Im turning to xda to see if maybe others have this problem or know of a fix. Im glad to provide what info I can if it hasnt already been covered. In my research Ive found the thermal throttling doesnt kick in and sut down the phone till about 55°c or so. Im certain the phone is getting close enuff to 50°c that I need to be concerned about long term damage to my G2 if this continues.
Ill add that even during dlna streaming the phone is getting hot but not as bad as miracasting. The phone also gets up around 45°c when using a slimport. I really would like to figure this out. I do have best buy return coverage for my phone but would like to avoid swapping it and having to pay $150 to do so.
Does anyone have this problem or know how to correct it?

Well if it's the CPU then don't worry that much. 55 degrees is a safe operating temperature. If it's the battery temperature then you're ****ed, so I'm quite sure it's the CPU temperature .
You don't really have many options other than cooling down your phone while miracasting using a fan or whatever you have avaliable. As for the lagging/stuttering it's because the phone starts throttling down in order to avoid very high temperatures. If you cool down your phone, the lag would go away but you can also disable thermal throttling from the hidden menu (which will cause your CPU temperature to skyrocket).
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Im using batt monitor widget. It said 50°c last night on a second go around with absolutely every background service stopped. If I was to disable that throttle via hidden menu, then my phone would surely fry. So I appreciate the idea, and read that whole thread before I posted here, but its probably not adviseable for my situation to let the phone get hotter than it is now.
Edit on my first post. I did mean Im on ZVA now, not zv9. It was a late night last night. lol.

Well I wrote to LG tech support outlining my issue. Havent heard back. I did try to run my wife's htc one with my miracast setup. While streaming her netflix via miracast the phone reached 40°C and was stuttering a bit, but it didnt get any hotter. I let her htc one cool down and launced crackle, and hulu plus and her phone never went over 37.9°C.
Leads me to believe that this is caused by a couple of factors. Maybe something in the netflix app in combination with the G2's miracast functionality. All I know is that netflix streams hotter, but other video apps run almost as hot on my G2.
I could really use some advice from a battery or cpu guru cause Im at a loss here.

bigpappa said:
Well I wrote to LG tech support outlining my issue. Havent heard back. I did try to run my wife's htc one with my miracast setup. While streaming her netflix via miracast the phone reached 40°C and was stuttering a bit, but it didnt get any hotter. I let her htc one cool down and launced crackle, and hulu plus and her phone never went over 37.9°C.
Leads me to believe that this is caused by a couple of factors. Maybe something in the netflix app in combination with the G2's miracast functionality. All I know is that netflix streams hotter, but other video apps run almost as hot on my G2.
I could really use some advice from a battery or cpu guru cause Im at a loss here.
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Since you're rooted why don't you throw a kernel with kernel tuner and knock the processor clock speed down while you're streaming. I know you shouldn't have to, but you may need to. Running it at say 1.2 - 1.5 ghz should still run fine and keep it cooler.

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Since you're rooted why don't you throw a kernel with kernel tuner and knock the processor clock speed down while you're streaming. I know you shouldn't have to, but you may need to. Running it at say 1.2 - 1.5 ghz should still run fine and keep it cooler.
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I could certainly try but Ive never implemented anything like that before. Not quite sure I have enough knowledge. Is there a resource in plain english that a beginner on that road would understand?
Id rather not have to go that route. I usually stick mostly to stock except for a few tweaks here and there. Im not opposed to learning tho.
Im suprised Im the only one this is happening to. There must be others miracasting netflix and such. I was hoping for a simple fix. I dont think Ill have such luck.

I miracast to my vizio stock(only rooted) to stock (tv), no third party hardware or software, no high heat...

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I miracast to my vizio stock(only rooted) to stock (tv), no third party hardware or software, no high heat...
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Thanks steamer. Im really starting to think Im alone here. Guess Ill have to figure out if it software related. My project in a few days will likely be running a .tot. Heard back from LG. They suggest sending phone in for warranty repair. However I do have geeksquad coverage thru best buy so I may go that route. If it still overheats after reverting back to factory stock then I know its hardware related and will be able to hand my phone over for warranty.
I did get my phone the day it came out. Maybe I got a lemon.

Can I get some opinions/thoughts on wether the furnace kernel by savoca or dorimanx kernel would possibly help my situation or make it worse?

This happened to me on my t mobile g2 the first hour I powered it on it was roasting my hand but when I went to settings and viewed what's draining the battery it was Bloatwear. So I rooted and used titanium backup to defeat them. A neat app to view what's running is memory booster then I Google search safe Bloatwear to delete and if it's OK I get rid of it. My T-Mobile g2 got glitch tho but when I got the d802 international version with no T-Mobile Bloatwear it didn't heat up at all

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This happened to me on my t mobile g2 the first hour I powered it on it was roasting my hand but when I went to settings and viewed what's draining the battery it was Bloatwear. So I rooted and used titanium backup to defeat them. A neat app to view what's running is memory booster then I Google search safe Bloatwear to delete and if it's OK I get rid of it. My T-Mobile g2 got glitch tho but when I got the d802 international version with no T-Mobile Bloatwear it didn't heat up at all
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Thanks, but Ive been there already. I use titanium and have froze all the bloatware. It makes no difference. I think im gonna try a .tot. I cant seem to get much help on this.

Well another update, kinda feel like Im talking to myself here... lol.
Restored to factory zv7 by doing a .tot and stayed unrooted without making any modifications. Pure Sprint G2. Downloaded the ezcast app and netflix only. Tried to miracast and phone still overheated. So now I know its gotta be either the ezcast software for the tronsmart dongle, netflix app, some kind of wifi bug, or a hardware issue.
Gonna leave the phone as is and head to bestbuy tomorrow and see about a warranty replacement. Only thing I can think of is I got one of those G2 that had thermal issues on release day. I know I heard more than a few reports back then but didnt think I had a problem. Not till now anyways.
If anyone has any other ideas tho please chime in. Ill update again if I get a new G2. We shall see.

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Well another update, kinda feel like Im talking to myself here... lol.
Restored to factory zv7 by doing a .tot and stayed unrooted without making any modifications. Pure Sprint G2. Downloaded the ezcast app and netflix only. Tried to miracast and phone still overheated. So now I know its gotta be either the ezcast software for the tronsmart dongle, netflix app, some kind of wifi bug, or a hardware issue.
Gonna leave the phone as is and head to bestbuy tomorrow and see about a warranty replacement. Only thing I can think of is I got one of those G2 that had thermal issues on release day. I know I heard more than a few reports back then but didnt think I had a problem. Not till now anyways.
If anyone has any other ideas tho please chime in. Ill update again if I get a new G2. We shall see.
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You aren't alone!! I just purchased a G2 from T Mobile last week & had exactly the same problem. I am using a Netgear P2TV3000 receiver. I've found that the phone heats up while connected via Miracast if I'm using other apps, just not as bad as it does w/ Netflix. I emailed LG about the problem & they said it was not a known issue & suggested taking it back to T Mobile. I did that yesterday & they gave me a new one. I took it home & tested it out...same problem. So I've given up & will be taking it back to return it for a completely different phone, probably a Galaxy S4. I'm really disappointed bec I really liked this phone. But Miracast not working properly is a deal-breaker for me.

Glad to see Im not alone and its not just a sprint variant issue. Thanks for your post. Actually at best buy now and they are still deciding what 5o so. Their cell expert hasnt got a clue either. Everything he thought of I was like... been there done that.
Edit: That was a useless exercise in futility. Bestbuy said their service center would likely send the phone back to me.saying that this overheating is within normal operation.... HOW? Cause their people will not take the the time to actually test the miracasting. So Im stuck dealing with LG and a warranty replacement, if they will even do anything.
Please, anyone with miracast dongles... would you check and see if you can recreate my problem? Simply stream netflix via miracast via your mobile connection. Not wifi. Thanks if you are willing to test. Within about 15-20 mins you should see your temp spike. 30 mins in you will be near 48-50°c.
Id like to see if this is a more common issue.

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Glad to see Im not alone and its not just a sprint variant issue. Thanks for your post. Actually at best buy now and they are still deciding what 5o so. Their cell expert hasnt got a clue either. Everything he thought of I was like... been there done that.
Edit: That was a useless exercise in futility. Bestbuy said their service center would likely send the phone back to me.saying that this overheating is within normal operation.... HOW? Cause their people will not take the the time to actually test the miracasting. So Im stuck dealing with LG and a warranty replacement, if they will even do anything.
Please, anyone with miracast dongles... would you check and see if you can recreate my problem? Simply stream netflix via miracast via your mobile connection. Not wifi. Thanks if you are willing to test. Within about 15-20 mins you should see your temp spike. 30 mins in you will be near 48-50°c.
Id like to see if this is a more common issue.
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What version of Android are you running? Both phones I've had this problem with were running 4.2.2. I've talked to several people who have no problems like this but they're running 4.3. It makes me think 4.2.2 is the culprit. Tell me you're running 4.2.2!

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What version of Android are you running? Both phones I've had this problem with were running 4.2.2. I've talked to several people who have no problems like this but they're running 4.3. It makes me think 4.2.2 is the culprit. Tell me you're running 4.2.2!
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Well stock lg g2 is 4.2.2 so yes.

Mine got hot enough charging + miracast netflix that it began to heavily stutter and slow to a complete stop. I didn't realize how hot it was until I picked it up to close netflix. It was throttling enough that I had to restart the phone just to do anything.

Thats pretty much the exact behavior I have seen. Did you happen to check the battery temp? Which carrier are you on?

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Thats pretty much the exact behavior I have seen. Did you happen to check the battery temp? Which carrier are you on?
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Unfortunately I didn't get to check them. By then, my phone was lagging so bad, all I could do was restart. By the time it restarted and I got a battery temp monitor downloaded, it was at 44. I'm on AT&T. Stock rooted rom.

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Unfortunately I didn't get to check them. By then, my phone was lagging so bad, all I could do was restart. By the time it restarted and I got a battery temp monitor downloaded, it was at 44. I'm on AT&T. Stock rooted rom.
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Were you using a dongle as well? Seems casting from phone to a device like a tv with miracast built in may not cause issues but Im not certain of that yet.
Im wondering if the impending kit kat update will eliminate this problem. I have a repair auth from LG right now, but Ive been holding off sending my phone in. LG says this is not a known issue. Id advise anyone that does have this overheating issue though to report it to LG.

IS it worth Rooting ?

I just bought a Sprint V20 and so far I have been looking through the roms and non are without bugs or problems. Which rom would you guys use and is it really that much better to root the phone over stock ?

Mine was lagging horribly and the battery was draining really fast.
I rooted and it has been so much better.
DevDigital's Sprint roms have been flawless for me. Not a single hiccup.
Just don't factory reset within twrp or you'll end up in a bootloop. Not bricked but aggravating.

I've had mine since Black Friday and still haven't rooted. I'm enjoying the phone despite the lack of data tethering. Is there a way to set the wide angle camera as the default camera so that 3rd party apps use the wide angle rear camera instead of the current primary? I'd enjoy the phone that much more if that were possible.

For me it's worth it just for adaway.
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Is there a way to set the wide angle camera as the default camera so that 3rd party apps use the wide angle rear camera instead of the current primary?
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There is no way. At least for Tmobile's variant. However, it only take a second to either zoom out or just click the icon and it will both take you to widescreen. I find zooming out easier for me. I dont know why

I personally only root to control programs that we should be able to control anyway (aka facebook), I get annoyed at how programs continually relaunch themselves without my knowledge.
That being said at this time I haven't rooted mainly because I've only had the phone for a month and I want to make sure that the phone works properly for at least 6 months.
Right now I am running greenify to attempt to control apps that think my personal phone is their playground to do whatever they want.
If I was younger and not dependent on my phone for a lot of things (business and organization) I would try other builds people have made but since I need reliability above all I personally tend to stick to stock builds.
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midmadn said:
Mine was lagging horribly and the battery was draining really fast.
I rooted and it has been so much better.
DevDigital's Sprint roms have been flawless for me. Not a single hiccup.
Just don't factory reset within twrp or you'll end up in a bootloop. Not bricked but aggravating.
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I may try this soon. I just hope DevDigitals Sprint roms are stable. I use Black Player as my music player for the gym and the camera is awesome for my Cruise I'm taking in April.

It still looks like people are having issues with DevDigitals rom. The data and texting issues. Are all these issues solved in V6.5 ? I use my phone for work and cant take the chance of it not answering a call or a text. Is the new V6.5 working as a daily driver for Sprint users ?

no issues at all on 6.5 for most.....
people sometimes don't read/search anymore

I did post once that I was having data issues but it was no fault of DevDigitl's great rom.
It was my wifi wasn't shutting off and I had previously signed into xfinity wifi. Every time I got anywhere near an xfinity wireless connection, (which is every other house in Boston) it would try to connect.
I'm still learning LG. Been on Samsung for a long time.
I firmly believe the rare connection issues are user error. Once the rom is installed you just need to click update profile and then update prl once.

It's worth rooting
Settings/Developer Options/Tick on "Force GPU Rendering" this should make this beast smoother/snappier" If root available try L Speed/Entropy/fstrim apps found on Play Store! LG V20 & LG G5 are snappy beasts, well optimised with Snapdragon 820 and is better than Samsung.

my LG-V20 was also laggy and draining battery quickly. i finally rooted my phone and it is 100% better i am currently using Maximum OvrDriVE Rom. its extremely nice. so if anyone else has the lag/battery drain quicker i suggest rooting your phone should fix. its been about 2 weeks and still doing great also so.

If you want a stable amazing ROM the NotSoStock ROM is the only option....
Don't hesitate just do it. You won't regret it.

Terrible performance after Galaxy S8 SM-G950U One UI/Pie update

Hi all,
My phone performance is terrible, everything runs slow and lagging since I took the update. Phone performance was very good before. Anyone else experience this and have any ideas to bring performance back to par?
Thanks for any help.

Factory reset or full wipe after updating to a new firmware. Also, do not restore Google apps, just start from a scratch.

I also have serious lag, it feels like a budget phone. I've had this phone since it launched, and installed every update without precaution. This is the first time experiencing these issues.
Frame rate is terrible, especially while scrolling. Delays in pressing buttons or launching apps have grown from milliseconds to sometimes two or three seconds. No other problems(aside from poor design choices). It feels like aggressive power throttling, not memory issues.
As soon as I saw that so much manual power management has been replaced by a "learning" system, I'm skeptical that the usual fixes will do anything for my problems, especially considering there is no other malfunction. Anyone else?
G950U

bigalbklyn said:
Hi all,
My phone performance is terrible, everything runs slow and lagging since I took the update. Phone performance was very good before. Anyone else experience this and have any ideas to bring performance back to par?
Thanks for any help.
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Samsung Galaxy s8 SM-G950W. Yes. Ever since the update, my Samsung is losing files., running slow and unable to use previously used apps. Substranum, fonts etc.

It's Samsung way of saying - "Buy galaxy S10"
I didn't fell any difference at all in performance.

Hansoliv said:
It's Samsung way of saying - "Buy galaxy S10"
I didn't fell any difference at all in performance.
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Well, that's what I was waiting to hear. If ppl aren't universally having the issue, then a factory reset may cure the problem. I'll give it a try soon.

Yes i just got bad performance after installing pie (custom rom, so i always factory reset or it wont work) but yeah after 14 days my phone start to slowing down like old smartphone and the apps is not starting correctly (e.g i must start magisk manually or the root wont work (the app cant detect if phone is rooted even when magisk hide is off)).
I try the LightROM and ALEXIS and both have this problem (performance way worse on lightrom). I know this isnt their fault but the samsung fault (maybe because its early relase? Or...).
Note : performance is normal in the first day, but after 14-30 days the phone start to acting weirdly (the apps behave weirdly) dunno why.
Btw i use SM-G950FD

After restarting about 5 times, then manually clearing cache partition, I was able to get smooth performance. Unfortunately, I still have to restart at least once a day to prevent lagging animation. This is with light usage: streaming, facebook, email.
I turned on "reduce animations" in advanced features, and set the animation scales to 1.5 with dev options. This seems to help prolong smooth operation, but I still have to restart daily. Next step is factory reset, I have a lot to backup...

fresh install thru odin and start all over again is really good solution. at the beginning i also experiencing lag

Mine has an issue of having the fingerprint not working after it was changed. I have to do one of the following:
1. Restart and boot via safe mode then if it works, reboot again
2. Restore Settings from synced backup
3. Reset Settings
So much of a hassle.... I am thinking of rooting this soon.

Hansoliv said:
It's Samsung way of saying - "Buy galaxy S10"
I didn't fell any difference at all in performance.
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My company bought Samsung J4plus on good deal from Three, has super sensitive reception, my own S8 only get EDGE or worse, J4 has 4G all over!!
anyone know if s9/S10 that good??

bigalbklyn said:
Hi all,
My phone performance is terrible, everything runs slow and lagging since I took the update. Phone performance was very good before. Anyone else experience this and have any ideas to bring performance back to par?
Thanks for any help.
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Had the same problem so flashed official firmware (for my carrier, downloaded from sammobile) with Odin. This part can be done without of rooting your phone.
Do this first (back up your data before as clear flash will delete everything), and test after if it works well. If not, root it (https://forum.xda-developers.com/sa...w-to/guide-root-install-twrp-samsung-t3747535) and install adaway from xda labs.
If you root the phone or install TWRP, e-fuse will break and you cannot go back after that. Warranty will be void and the Samsung fit app won't work anymore.
Fortunately, there are workarounds on a rooted phone (https://tinyurl.com/yy37gnwv) so that is not a big deal, at least for me.
Not sure when you root it if wave pay services will work so do some research first.

an-_-dro said:
fresh install thru odin and start all over again is really good solution. at the beginning i also experiencing lag
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Has your lag subsided after time? Mine appears after a night's sleep. It never fails: Restart in the morning, smooth scrolling all day. Next morning, laggy, stuttering scrolling until I restart again. I've uninstalled all unused apps and left power mode on high performance. No change. As soon as I wake up, animation lags like a budget phone. Everything else is reliable, just not the animation.
Of course, I don't actually know what's going on, but I'm willing to bet that this new power management system that we can't control is to blame. If I have to go through all the odin, etc steps, I may just roll back to oreo. Pie is prettier, but I want my smooth operation back.

comnut said:
My company bought Samsung J4plus on good deal from Three, has super sensitive reception, my own S8 only get EDGE or worse, J4 has 4G all over!!
anyone know if s9/S10 that good??
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S10e gets similar reception to my A8(2018). When I got the A8 I had a S8 before that, and i don't remember there being any difference in signal. I live in poor signal area, so if a phone had bad signal, I'd probably remember because I owuldn't have any signal at all.

This is really quite unacceptable. I took the OTA update and the lagging began. I've never had an issue with an OTA update. I've never done a factory reset after an OTA update either. Flashing custom ROM is different but this is from Samsung...
Does anyone have a solution that doesn't involve daily reboots or a factory reset? I just find that really inconvenient.

J450N79 said:
This is really quite unacceptable. I took the OTA update and the lagging began. I've never had an issue with an OTA update. I've never done a factory reset after an OTA update either. Flashing custom ROM is different but this is from Samsung...
Does anyone have a solution that doesn't involve daily reboots or a factory reset? I just find that really inconvenient.
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Yes, I agree. It's hard to know at whom who to point the finger. Google, Samsung, or both. Regardless, it's very disappointing, and hurts my impression of both companies.
I'm currently allowing the phone to run for 7 days to see if the root method listed above by robyos may be feasible for my tmo s8.
If manually restarting is the only hurdle for you, it can now be set to restart automatically (I guess they anticipated this?) Settings > device care > three dots > auto restart.
It feels like a duct-tape band-aid, but it's there. After my 7 day test, I'll probably give this auto-restart a try. However, I'm concerned about the terribly annoying tmo jingle at each restart.

DrivenKeys said:
Yes, I agree. It's hard to know at whom who to point the finger. Google, Samsung, or both. Regardless, it's very disappointing, and hurts my impression of both companies.
I'm currently allowing the phone to run for 7 days to see if the root method listed above by robyos may be feasible for my tmo s8.
If manually restarting is the only hurdle for you, it can now be set to restart automatically (I guess they anticipated this?) Settings > device care > three dots > auto restart.
It feels like a duct-tape band-aid, but it's there. After my 7 day test, I'll probably give this auto-restart a try. However, I'm concerned about the terribly annoying tmo jingle at each restart.
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I'm thinking the problem may be googles not Samsung's...I had a OnePlus 5 for almost 2 years. At some point after the pie update it would stutter while scrolling or during animations intermittently. Even a factory reset didn't fix it. The phone was still fast but it was aesthetically annoying seeing the stuttering.
I drown the phone in the ocean on vacation this month and had to replace it so I got a used s8. I haven't had the same issue with scrolling but I've only had it for a couple weeks so far on a fresh wipe. It had some "normal" Samsung lag that the OnePlus didn't have while opening apps and it doesn't keep nearly as much in memory (4gb vs 8 GB RAM). But I'm still thinking the problem may be with pie itself since people were complaining about stuttering on both Samsung and OnePlus phones.
Hopefully my s8 is not affected and it's only certain ones experience it.
Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk

totally not satisfied with the Pie update, I wish I did not upgrade my fast S8.....
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350Rocket said:
I'm thinking the problem may be googles not Samsung's...I had a OnePlus 5 for almost 2 years. At some point after the pie update it would stutter while scrolling or during animations intermittently. Even a factory reset didn't fix it. The phone was still fast but it was aesthetically annoying seeing the stuttering.
I drown the phone in the ocean on vacation this month and had to replace it so I got a used s8. I haven't had the same issue with scrolling but I've only had it for a couple weeks so far on a fresh wipe. It had some "normal" Samsung lag that the OnePlus didn't have while opening apps and it doesn't keep nearly as much in memory (4gb vs 8 GB RAM). But I'm still thinking the problem may be with pie itself since people were complaining about stuttering on both Samsung and OnePlus phones.
Hopefully my s8 is not affected and it's only certain ones experience it.
Sent from my SM-G950W using Tapatalk
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Wow! It's sad to hear an 8gb phone would still have the same issue. I wonder if this has to do with power management. Perhaps it's squeezing a tiny percentage of battery life out of saving some frames. It drives me crazy and gives me a headache. I wish they'd provide a simple switch for whatever this is.
This os feels like they ventured into breaking what works in an endless quest to fix what wasn't broken. Perhaps some team of programmers is celebrating minute improvements, but it's coming at the expense of the consumer, who never signed up to be the guinea pig. Each update seems to remove or break basic reliability and functionality that we paid for. I feel like I paid a premium price to become a software tester.

So reboots don't seem to fix the lag I'm experiencing when opening and closing certain apps. This phone was plenty fast before for me. Other issues are present now too. Auto adaptive display brightness doesn't work as well. I also really think it's sheet that you can't disable GPS and have the battery saving mode anymore! WTF Samsung.