When i read the white pages with the correct description, i found 2 websites that sells the xperia play with the US 3G bands
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...-Iy5Cw&usg=AFQjCNGPEmiD1i3HIOJJbaNMpVC8NhI7nw
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...-Iy5Cw&usg=AFQjCNEB_7JRNctbu6epR5XZZ1FGfVSt0w
Does anyone ever purchase from any of this 2 websites? one seems to be in FL and the other in NV...
Looks like the bands the difference
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negrielectronics is showing pre-order
celluloco is showing in stock but i highly doubt that
Check http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBQQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.networkingrus.com%2F&ei=x9avTbaeBsfHrQfimN34CA&usg=AFQjCNEAgAxGKDBPHM4-BuMQd-0Mg_xJmA
The xperia play comes in four versions R800i/a/at/x. If you check the white paper on xperia play from SE you'll see It must be region related?
Regards Dousan...
I'm rather curious about these sellers as well. I've been gnashing my teeth waiting for this phone since rumor broke that Sony was seriously working on it last year (and was hoping for something like it for even longer). Has anyone bought from either of these sellers yet?
I've been seeing a lot of the European R800i model. Unfortunately I'm on AT&T, which will require either the R800a or R800at. Both have the same bands, but I suspect the R800a is the generic North American model for both the US and Canada (Rogers seems to be getting this one), while the R800at is probably going to be some sort of AT&T-centric (read: butchered) version. While it would be nice to save some money through the carrier, at this point I'm more inclined to get an unlocked version at retail price. My guess is that it's going to be around $550-600 off-contract when supplies ramp up.
Also, has anyone heard any more on the R800x (Verizon CDMA) version having a SIM card slot? I saw something about that a few weeks ago and wondered if it was at all functional.
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I'm rather curious about these sellers as well. I've been gnashing my teeth waiting for this phone since rumor broke that Sony was seriously working on it last year (and was hoping for something like it for even longer). Has anyone bought from either of these sellers yet?
I've been seeing a lot of the European R800i model. Unfortunately I'm on AT&T, which will require either the R800a or R800at. Both have the same bands, but I suspect the R800a is the generic North American model for both the US and Canada (Rogers seems to be getting this one), while the R800at is probably going to be some sort of AT&T-centric (read: butchered) version. While it would be nice to save some money through the carrier, at this point I'm more inclined to get an unlocked version at retail price. My guess is that it's going to be around $550-600 off-contract when supplies ramp up.
Also, has anyone heard any more on the R800x (Verizon CDMA) version having a SIM card slot? I saw something about that a few weeks ago and wondered if it was at all functional.
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from the white pages that we saw a couple of days ago (revealing the model name for each version) we can tell that the CDMA version doesnt have GSM slot, otherwise it will be listed there.
Regarding the release for both the verizon and rogers, apparently both are on the 28th, hopefully we will see the unlocked version as well on the next week, and based on the european price, it will be probably $600 and up...
I cant wait any longer either!! i was even thinking to get the R800i version is the phone is not released this week, since the 3g on tmobile sucks anyways...
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from the white pages that we saw a couple of days ago (revealing the model name for each version) we can tell that the CDMA version doesnt have GSM slot, otherwise it will be listed there.
Regarding the release for both the verizon and rogers, apparently both are on the 28th, hopefully we will see the unlocked version as well on the next week, and based on the european price, it will be probably $600 and up...
I cant wait any longer either!! i was even thinking to get the R800i version is the phone is not released this week, since the 3g on tmobile sucks anyways...
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Well according to some articles I saw around the beginning of the month, the FCC tear-down of the CDMA model showed that it physically had a SIM slot. Unfortunately the forum won't let me post the links. One of the links thought it could be a for LTE or allow it to act as a world phone. Since there hasn't been any mention of either, it makes me wonder if it's just there for show?
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Well according to some articles I saw around the beginning of the month, the FCC tear-down of the CDMA model showed that it physically had a SIM slot. Unfortunately the forum won't let me post the links. One of the links thought it could be a for LTE or allow it to act as a world phone. Since there hasn't been any mention of either, it makes me wonder if it's just there for show?
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Yes, i read that post as well, but still, the white pages should provide a full description of the product and doesnt mention a thing about a sim card on the R800x version, we will have to wait and see i guess...
After spending a few minutes chatting with Celluloco guys, i will not trusth them at all. They charge florida taxes, but they dont have a phisical address in FL, when i ask for one, they told me that the address is only for Wholesale accounts, so i ask to open one account, since i'm an importer/exporter and could be usefull. But no, they deny it because they are full, and they are not opening any accounts.
So i ask them the real company name, since they charge FL taxes, they must have a registered company in the FL Bizz Directory, but no, they deny again telling that their company is based on Cayman Islands ?!?!
So long story short... dont buy to this guys, not even a cell charger, its a plain scam, even on facebook (they have a facebook account) there are people claiming that after a week of paying a cell phone, he cant reach a single person to know the status of their order.
I found them on the FL Bizz, and they are a inactive company... what a scam!!
http://www.sunbiz.org/scripts/corde...&names_comp_name=CELLULOCO&names_filing_type=
Hey guys!
I'm excited to say that I'm about to buy an HD2!! I'm finally getting up to speed!! (Upgrading from my Topazi)
I'm planning on buying this off of ebay, but I'm not sure what to look for when selecting it. I'm going to buy new, even though it costs more... I've got AT&T and don't know if i can get a t-mobile one or if i have to get one that ebay says will work with AT&T or if i'm just putting too much thought into this...
Any tips you guys could offer on choosing one off of ebay? Thanks in advance!!
for att get the austrailian (telstra) version, not the tmobile one - this will allow you to get 3g. or if you get the tmobile one, you will NOT get 3g, just edge. (this is a hardware issue.)
other than that, i guess everything you look for is well, what you should look for, ya know?
Make sure it has five buttons on the front, not four as at least some of the Chinese clones have.
Buy only from someone with very high feedback, and a significant number of them.
Avoid buying something that has a stock photo in place of actual photos of what you are paying for.
By the same token, avoid items whose photos are blurry or hard to see. Good sellers have nothing to hide and won't try.
I recently bought my second HD2, this one a brand new unit, and it was a good deal all the way around. But I'm very careful. You should be too.
Ask questions before you bid. In my years of buying from eBay sellers I've come to use this as a way of gauging good service. If you can't get an answer to a simple question, you're unlikely to get one if you experience a problem with the transaction. Good service starts before the sale imho.
Good luck!
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for att get the austrailian (telstra) version, not the tmobile one - this will allow you to get 3g. or if you get the tmobile one, you will NOT get 3g, just edge. (this is a hardware issue.)
other than that, i guess everything you look for is well, what you should look for, ya know?
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Thanks for that, it would suck to not have 3G up here... I can't find anything that specifically states "Telstra" or australian on ebay for new HD2's... I'm searching by compatible carriers and AT&T comes up- would that one work? Here's an example.
Thanks again in advance!
BTW- Do you live on/near MN 78? I'm near MN 33... I like the pic
Sorry mate for the late response. I don't know what the difference is for the telstra in looks. But I would assume it is NOT the one you mentioned unless it specifically states so. My guess is the one you linked is the European version. I woulf pm kameirus as he did what toy want to do.
And am a Minnesotan but in mpls. The highway sign just worked with my handle.
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Hello, I was wondering if any Canadians here have gotten a Moto X Force dual sim edition, and if so, what way did you get it? I can't seem to find any dual sim models that will ship to Canada.
thanks!
Does a dual sim variety even exist? I can't specifically find one. Unless the SIM/MicroSD tray can also operate as dual sim on the standard model? I purchased my Moto X Force from handtec.co.uk. Wasn't cheap with the exchange rate and duty, but I didn't care, I wanted this phone. Specs are incredible after a few months of usage, no complaints.
ONE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE THOUGH! This screen scratches EASILY, largely due to the fact that its not glass, it's a softer plastic material despite feeling very glass like to the touch. Make sure to get a screen protector put on the moment you take it out of the box. The replacement shattershields also aren't available in Canada and I tried like crazy to have Motorola US ship me them, but they would not. You can't order them from their site unless you are shipping to a US address and paying with a US addressed credit card. I finally had to find someone in the US to buy me a couple and reship them up to me. Again, cost a small fortune, but better to have them now for the future than to need them a year or two from now and find that they are no longer available.
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Does a dual sim variety even exist? I can't specifically find one. Unless the SIM/MicroSD tray can also operate as dual sim on the standard model? I purchased my Moto X Force from handtec.co.uk. Wasn't cheap with the exchange rate and duty, but I didn't care, I wanted this phone. Specs are incredible after a few months of usage, no complaints.
ONE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE THOUGH! This screen scratches EASILY, largely due to the fact that its not glass, it's a softer plastic material despite feeling very glass like to the touch. Make sure to get a screen protector put on the moment you take it out of the box. The replacement shattershields also aren't available in Canada and I tried like crazy to have Motorola US ship me them, but they would not. You can't order them from their site unless you are shipping to a US address and paying with a US addressed credit card. I finally had to find someone in the US to buy me a couple and reship them up to me. Again, cost a small fortune, but better to have them now for the future than to need them a year or two from now and find that they are no longer available.
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From my googling, apparently only the units sold in Brazil/China/Mexico are dual-sim enabled/supported. The unit you got from Handtec/UK, the EU Moto X Force units are single-sim only. They come with a tray that allows for 2 sims + microSD. What's the point of NAFTA if you can't order a phone directly from Mexico? LOL.
Does anyone know how the dual sim works on the Force? If it's Active/Standby or Active/Active? 4G/3G? Maybe I should go for the single sim model if it's going to be this insane of an effort to purchase one.
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Hello, I was wondering if any Canadians here have gotten a Moto X Force dual sim edition, and if so, what way did you get it? I can't seem to find any dual sim models that will ship to Canada. thanks!
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From my googling, apparently only the units sold in Brazil/China/Mexico are dual-sim enabled/supported .
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Yes, several Canadiana and U.S.A. XDA members have gotten dual sim Moto X Force from Mexico, via @Jaocagomez.
@Jaocagomez was offering that service. He lives in Mexico and was re-shipping to other countries, for a very reasonable fee. Contact him and see if he's still doing that?
FYI: I used him to get the predecessor Motorola phone (Quark - Moto Maxx XT1225) from Mexico, December 2014. Worked out very well!
He also offered the service for the Moto X Force (Kinzie). See this thread and his responses:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo-2/help/moto-x-force-to-usa-t3258480
Jaocagomez said:
i've got 2 phones coming my way
1 to colorado, USA
and 1 to Canada
another one also in process.
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This guy (Jaocagomez) gets +1 because he did an excellent job at helping me bring over the Moto X Force into Canada for me. =)
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As you can see from this thread, he's a very helpful and respected XDA member...
[X Force] How to Manually Flash Official Firmware
http://forum.xda-developers.com/dro...force-how-to-manually-flash-official-t3282077
Hi all, I'm new here. Go by the name of vapez. Glad to be here. This is great. I have been waiting for a similar phone, as I think my original droid razr is finally on its death bed. I missed the original turbo and mini, but this seems like a nice one to look for. I think we only have the moto x play available, which I almost bit the bullet and bought, but upon finding out about this and its rugged status, I think its a better fit for me, especially since the droid razr was such a tank for me.
Hello,
Apologies if this does not go here or if there's a better community to ask this question in, but I figured it was worth a shot.
My conundrum is this: ATT isn't releasing a pink v20. I have an unlimited plan from back in the day that they will pry from my cold dead hands, and I am not going to pay 800 dollars for a phone that I can't buy in the best color, especially when they teased everyone by saying "it will be available in pink" without adding the "only in Asia" caveat.
I know the pink phones exist in Korea, Taiwan, and Hong Kong. However the Korean phones seem to only barely support 4g on ATT (1/4 bands supported is not okay), and the Taiwan/HK phones are dual sim which I had seen referred to as "a piece of (excrement)" from a unlocked bootloader development perspective on this very forum.
I have watched the teardown video posted some time ago (I can't post it because 1 post wonder, if you google "lg v20 takedown" it's basically the first result) and most of the boards seem to pop out quite easily which got me thinking, could one take the body components from the Korean model (F800S/K/L) and transfer the boards from the ATT version released in the US into it? To me the main questions with regards to this seem to be the following:
1) Does anyone know if there are any significant internal dimensional differences on the boards between the F800S/K/L and the H910/H915? I am not sure what model is featured in the teardown video but I would guess it's a F800 of some sort as this was in Korea.
2) Does anyone know if there's any components attached to the front screen module (that's what I'm calling the piece on the far right/the engineer's left in the video which everything placed to the left of it is ultimately attached to) which would cause incompatibilities when the boards from another phone are attached to them (assuming for a second that they fit in the first place)? For example, whatever bit determines which frequencies the antennas can receive, as there'd be no point in swapping the body of the if the phone then loses the att frequency compatibility.
Again, this is probably a long shot, but I figured I would ask just in case anyone had experience tearing down both models.
Thanks, and let me know if this question belongs somewhere else.
Chances are good but I would venture the biggest challenge is antenna connection and compatibility. Basically the top and bottom plastic pieces of phone. I would dog deeper into that first before considering.
Alright, I will check it out, thanks much for the advice.
Seems to me that Lg made this phone pretty DIY repair friendly. At first glance there are easily accessible phillips head screws. None of that proprietary garbage.
As an FYI, I emailed LG on the off-chance that I wouldn't get the equivalent of a form letter back, but no such luck.
This was the response I received:
Thanks for the email. We really appreciate that you took time to share your concern. We apologize for any inconvenience you may be experiencing.
We hope everything is going well with you.
The V20 Pink is not available in U.S. models; what we have is Titan and Silver. Apparently, the international model phones may look alike exactly as the phones that we have here however, the components and internal parts were totally different. So as to answer your inquiry, we do not encourage that you swap the boards as it may cause system problems and incompatibility issues.
Also, if you really want the V20 in Pink, you may just buy an unlocked version so you can use AT&T service; however, it carries no U.S. warranty since that is not a U.S. model.
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Looks like I'll just wait until someone does a teardown of the ATT model to check things out.
As an update to this situation, I have been trolling the internet for spare parts (why buy two phones if you can just buy the pink bits and transfer the components?) and noticed a trend on ebay from parts sellers that I am not sure if is correct or not, but probably worth reporting.
I noticed that there are several listings for frame + screen (always in black because of course they are ) which list compatible models for the part.
LG V20 H990TR H910 H915 F800L
LG V20 LS997 US996 VS995 H990ds
LG V20 T-mobile H918
So far as I can tell the sellers are using the same set of stock photos for everything so I can't get a good sense of what dimensional and/or design differences may exist, however off the top of my head the first line looks like the non-CDMA models and the second line is either dual sim or CDMA models, and then the final line is T-mobile standing alone.
Except for T-Mobile this breakdown by model seems to square with what I would assume parts designers would do.
Don't take as gospel that these parts compatibilities exist within these model groups however it is suggestive.
I will post an update when and if I learn more.
I'm looking for a new phone and the Axon 7 was looking like the clear choice but I'm starting to have serious doubts. The phone works perfectly with AT&T and T-Mobile networks, it takes a process to get it to work with Verizon and doesn't work at all with Sprint. This raises the obvious question, what about roaming? I'm not sure who has agreements with who for roaming coverage, but you can see that this would leave only two networks for roaming and that is assuming there is an agreement. How will the phone act when there is a stronger signal from a tower that it can't actually work with, despite being using the same frequency? I just don't know. Who has agreements with who? Have any of you guys tested roaming? T-Mobile in my area is only worthy of consideration with roaming, hence my concern. I want a versatile phone so I can switch providers at will.
If you can answer ANY of the following, please do so.
1. How do I make sure I get the "A2017U" model? I see lots of Axon 7s for sale and the model is never specified.
2. How big of a deal are the slow updates? What will you do when they inevitably top updating at all?
3. IF I get this phone I will likely keep the stock ROM to keep double tap to wake, shake for light etc. plus it doesn't seem like it's worth it according to Axon 7 owners. Is rooting, bootloader and recovery to stock reliable at this point?
4. Do you think the 128GB/6GB RAM models are worth it? It seems that some have sold for as low as $400 used but they tend to be over $500.
5. Are there "A2017U" models with this enhanced storage and RAM? How do I tell?
6. What native ways are there to unlock the screen? Of course there is pass, pin and fingerprint, any others?
7. What is your batter life like?
My last couple of questions are perhaps a bit off topic, do any of you happen to know details about the Axon 7 Max? I'm wondering what the speaker setup is. Honestly, I don't like the fact that is has a "3d" display which is really gimmicky and supposedly is old tech. Does anyone here have experience with this tech? I wish they were going with a nice screen like the one in the regular Axon 7. I will probably stick to the regular Axon 7, the 5.5" screen is still bigger than my LG G2's screen and it's cheaper.
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I'm looking for a new phone and the Axon 7 was looking like the clear choice but I'm starting to have serious doubts. The phone works perfectly with AT&T and T-Mobile networks, it takes a process to get it to work with Verizon and doesn't work at all with Sprint. This raises the obvious question, what about roaming? I'm not sure who has agreements with who for roaming coverage, but you can see that this would leave only two networks for roaming and that is assuming there is an agreement. How will the phone act when there is a stronger signal from a tower that it can't actually work with, despite being using the same frequency? I just don't know. Who has agreements with who? Have any of you guys tested roaming? T-Mobile in my area is only worthy of consideration with roaming, hence my concern. I want a versatile phone so I can switch providers at will.
1. How do I make sure I get the "A2017U" model? I see lots of Axon 7s for sale and the model is never specified.
2. How big of a deal are the slow updates? What will you do when they inevitably top updating at all?
3. IF I get this phone I will likely keep the stock ROM to keep double tap to wake, shake for light etc. plus it doesn't seem like it's worth it according to Axon 7 owners. Is rooting, bootloader and recovery to stock reliable at this point?
4. Do you think the 128GB/6GB RAM models are worth it? It seems that some have sold for as low as $400 used but they tend to be over $500.
5. Are there "A2017U" models with this enhanced storage and RAM? How do I tell?
6. What native ways are there to unlock the screen? Of course there is pass, pin and fingerprint, any others?
7. What is your batter life like?
My last couple of questions is perhaps a bit off topic, do any of you happen to know details about the Axon 7 Max? I'm wondering what the speaker setup is. Honestly, I don't like the fact that is has a "3d" display which is really gimmicky and supposedly is old tech. Does anyone here have experience with this tech? I wish they were going with a nice screen like the one in the regular Axon 7. I will probably stick to the regular Axon 7, the 5.5" screen is still bigger than my LG G2's screen and it's cheaper.
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You get the A2017U by buying it in the USA. Not through Aliexpress for example. Getting another model is not the end of the world anyways... the modem is very much alike, it only differs from others on specific places like Japan and I think Spain.
Slow updates? We got Nougat before the Oneplus 3T. The real problem is that ZTE's updates add one feature and break 3 other things that are totally unrelated, then they release an update with fixes and break other things... But at this moment everything is working just fine. And even the S8 had similar problems, e.g. not working SD card, so there is no safe bet on the software department regarding OEMs
All the unlock and root stuff is dangerous on this device. If you fucc up too much you can still get an RMA and pretend like you woke up and the device didn't... otherwise you can pay a fee to get it reflashed. Also some ROMs have the shake to turn the flashlight on and dt2w thing, for example Resurrection Remix. But the stock ROM is really good especially if you slap a launcher on top of it, and there is no real reason to root besides apps and maybe some specific Xposed modules you would want to have
6 GB ram and 128 GB storage, plus force touch... your judgement. I literally NEVER use more than 3 GB of RAM even while gaming intensive stuff. Repeat, NEVER. There are some people who might be mining bitcoin with their phones or whatever, and fill up the RAM, so if you're one of them then go ahead and buy an A2017. Also so much storage for what? Use an SD card, and if you need dual SIM support, do that guide where you stick the SIM's guts to the SD card. And force touch might be interesting, but I'm not sure whether it is utilized on Android's apps... may be useless
No enhanced A2017Us AFAIK. I'm almost 100% sure that there aren't enhanced A2017U's, only A2017s.
Pass, PIN, pattern, fingerprint. Wouldn't know why you'd want any more. The fingerprint sensor placement is really comfortable despite the huge skepticism.
Battery life... Most people are reporting ~5 hrs SOT. I can get that on stock Android N. And if you feel adventurous and install a custom LOS based ROM, a full black theme, a kernel, and AKT profiles, you can easily double or sometimes triple that, depending on your usage.
Right now I'm using stock A2017G Android 6.0.1 with AKT profiles. I usually put it on Extreme battery saving and the phone still behaves like a flagship should (with the occasional ΒΌ second freeze every half a minute). some people (especially A2017 people) reported hideous drain, mostly on standby. But those are just isolated cases...
And the last couple of questions, no idea. Is the 3d screen they want to use like the one in the 3DS (2 pixel arrays with different angle of view)? I'm pretty courious...
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Getting another model is not the end of the world anyways... the modem is very much alike, it only differs from others on specific places like Japan and I think Spain.
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The U model is very much different from the rest. It has 3 CDMA bands (global has 0), and LTE bands that are only used in North America (absent from global model).
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No enhanced A2017Us AFAIK. I'm almost 100% sure that there aren't enhanced A2017U's, only A2017s.
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ZTE USA did offer the enhanced model, dubbed the "Limited Edition", for a short period of time. It's no longer on their website, but you can google "zteusa.com Axon 7 Limited Edition" for more info.
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The U model is very much different from the rest. It has 3 CDMA bands (global has 0), and LTE bands that are only used in North America (absent from global model).
ZTE USA did offer the enhanced model, dubbed the "Limited Edition", for a short period of time. It's no longer on their website, but you can google "zteusa.com Axon 7 Limited Edition" for more info.
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Regarding the Limited Edition phones, are you sure they weren't just A2017s?
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This raises the obvious question, what about roaming? I'm not sure who has agreements with who for roaming coverage, but you can see that this would leave only two networks for roaming and that is assuming there is an agreement. How will the phone act when there is a stronger signal from a tower that it can't actually work with, despite being using the same frequency? I just don't know. Who has agreements with who? Have any of you guys tested roaming? T-Mobile in my area is only worthy of consideration with roaming, hence my concern. I want a versatile phone so I can switch providers at will.
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The A2017U has all the major bands used by all US carriers. The roaming will be determined by the provider that you use the phone on. All phones try to stick to the native network as long as possible, and will only roam when there is no native signal, and even then the roaming is based off your carrier's agreements. Some carriers have regional roaming agreements (for example, in some areas, T-Mobile customers can roam onto AT&T), while some carriers have no roaming agreements at all (ex: if you're on T-Mobile, you can't connect to Verizon towers at all except for E911).
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Regarding the Limited Edition phones, are you sure they weren't just A2017s?
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Yes because zteusa.com wouldn't sell the Chinese model in the US. The Chinese model doesn't have the majority of bands used in the US.
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You get the A2017U by buying it in the USA. Not through Aliexpress for example.
All the unlock and root stuff is dangerous on this device.
6 GB ram and 128 GB storage, plus force touch... your judgement.
Pass, PIN, pattern, fingerprint. Wouldn't know why you'd want any more. The fingerprint sensor placement is really comfortable despite the huge skepticism.
Battery life... Most people are reporting ~5 hrs SOT. I can get that on stock Android N. And if you feel adventurous and install a custom LOS based ROM, a full black theme, a kernel, and AKT profiles, you can easily double or sometimes triple that, depending on your usage.
And the last couple of questions, no idea. Is the 3d screen they want to use like the one in the 3DS (2 pixel arrays with different angle of view)? I'm pretty courious...
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So buying used or on ebay could be a problem then, alright.
I just want root for apps, that was the main thing.
The fact that they are scarce makes the "enhanced" model overpriced anyway, it might be worth it if that wasn't the case.
I wear gloves at work that WILL generally work with touchscreens well enough to answer a call but perhaps not enough to reliably put in a code to read a text. Obviously they wont work with fingerprint scanner. That's okay thought, there are ways around that. It would just be ideal to have face or iris unlock. I like the Samsung S8 feature where it can tell if it's on your body or not but I knew not to expect that.
If the odds are as bad when flashing then I will just have to live with the battery life as it is.
Yeah, not sure about the 3D screen on the 7 Max. Actually, the guy in the video I watched stated that it was done better than previous "3D" screens. It should only work in landscape mode if it relies of viewing angles.
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So buying used or on ebay could be a problem then, alright.
I just want root for apps, that was the main thing.
The fact that they are scarce makes the "enhanced" model overpriced anyway, it might be worth it if that wasn't the case.
I wear gloves at work that WILL generally work with touchscreens well enough to answer a call but perhaps not enough to reliably put in a code to read a text. Obviously they wont work with fingerprint scanner. That's okay thought, there are ways around that. It would just be ideal to have face or iris unlock. I like the Samsung S8 feature where it can tell if it's on your body or not but I knew not to expect that.
If the odds are as bad when flashing then I will just have to live with the battery life as it is.
Yeah, not sure about the 3D screen on the 7 Max. Actually, the guy in the video I watched stated that it was done better than previous "3D" screens. It should only work in landscape mode if it relies of viewing angles.
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Oh shoot sorry I forgot about like 4 other unlocking methods... You can use Voice recognition either from ZTE's own implementation or Google's. Also you have Google's On body detection to keep it unlocked when you have it with you, and Trusted places and Trusted Devices
Also there is a high sensitivity mode for gloves, never tried it myself though.
Also I said that the battery is even better on some select custom ROMs, but I never said it was bad... 5 hours of screen on time is a crapton! Imagine 10.
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The A2017U has all the major bands used by all US carriers. The roaming will be determined by the provider that you use the phone on. All phones try to stick to the native network as long as possible, and will only roam when there is no native signal, and even then the roaming is based off your carrier's agreements. Some carriers have regional roaming agreements (for example, in some areas, T-Mobile customers can roam onto AT&T), while some carriers have no roaming agreements at all (ex: if you're on T-Mobile, you can't connect to Verizon towers at all except for E911).
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So, in the case of Sprint lot allowing Axon 7s on their network, this would change if it is using their network as part of a roaming agreement? In the case of Verizon not even working without a special procedure after a recent update, this problem goes away if one is just roaming on their network? What you are describing is just a normal roaming situation with a phone that works on all networks involved but I thought that the Axon 7 has unique problems with 2 networks. I even see it advertised on Amazon as not working with Verizon or Sprint AT ALL! This despite the fact that it has the necessary reception to do so. I just want to know for sure if it will roam on those networks given these problems.
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Yes because zteusa.com wouldn't sell the Chinese model in the US. The Chinese model doesn't have the majority of bands used in the US.
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The problem is that they are all on the secondary market at this point and there is no way to know for sure what one is getting.
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Oh shoot sorry I forgot about like 4 other unlocking methods... You can use Voice recognition either from ZTE's own implementation or Google's. Also you have Google's On body detection to keep it unlocked when you have it with you, and Trusted places and Trusted Devices
Also there is a high sensitivity mode for gloves, never tried it myself though.
Also I said that the battery is even better on some select custom ROMs, but I never said it was bad... 5 hours of screen on time is a crapton! Imagine 10.
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Oh, that's perfect! I didn't realize the on body was a google thing. No, the battery life is fine, it just sucks knowing it's capable of more but too risky to attempt. Do you happen to knows the details of the warranty? Does it matter who I buy from or if I buy used?
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Oh, that's perfect! I didn't realize the on body was a google thing. No, the battery life is fine, it just sucks knowing it's capable of more but too risky to attempt. Do you happen to knows the details of the warranty? Does it matter who I buy from or if I buy used?
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I don't know about the warranty from USA, I have an A2017G. With this model they give you one year of warranty and an additional year of VIP warranty which includes a free screen replacement for the first 6 months and water damage stuff...
I'm sending a couple of pics of the warranty. Just be advised: the warranty explicitly doesn't cover acts of God!
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So, in the case of Sprint lot allowing Axon 7s on their network, this would change if it is using their network as part of a roaming agreement? In the case of Verizon not even working without a special procedure after a recent update, this problem goes away if one is just roaming on their network? What you are describing is just a normal roaming situation with a phone that works on all networks involved but I thought that the Axon 7 has unique problems with 2 networks. I even see it advertised on Amazon as not working with Verizon or Sprint AT ALL! This despite the fact that it has the necessary reception to do so. I just want to know for sure if it will roam on those networks given these problems.
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Roaming is separate from Sprint's device activation policy. You'll hardly ever roam onto Sprint though, as they have the worst coverage of the big 4.
Special procedure is not needed to get it working on Verizon. You just need to have an already-activated SIM card.
The problem is not unique to the Axon 7. It's the same as any other phone. For example, the Nexus 5 was not compatible with Verizon, yet Sprint users were able to load a custom PRL that allowed them to only connect to Verizon's towers (roaming, of course. Sprint has a roaming agreement with Verizon).
It's not advertised as being compatible with Verizon because it's not officially approved by Verizon and you need an already-activated SIM card in order to use it.
Yes, you should be able to roam onto them but that requires your carrier to have a roaming agreement with those other carriers.
What carrier are you on?
I completely misunderstood the Verizon issue, that isn't a big deal at all. I also didn't know that the sprint issue was just a matter of activation. ZTE is coming out with a Sprint phone so perhaps Sprint might reconsider. I'm currently using T-Mobile pre-paid, so no roaming and my phone does not receive band 12 so my reception sucks. I'm not sure what carrier I will end up on. I'm looking at all but sprint, including MVNOs.
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So buying used or on ebay could be a problem then, alright.
I just want root for apps, that was the main thing.
The fact that they are scarce makes the "enhanced" model overpriced anyway, it might be worth it if that wasn't the case.
I wear gloves at work that WILL generally work with touchscreens well enough to answer a call but perhaps not enough to reliably put in a code to read a text. Obviously they wont work with fingerprint scanner. That's okay thought, there are ways around that. It would just be ideal to have face or iris unlock. I like the Samsung S8 feature where it can tell if it's on your body or not but I knew not to expect that.
If the odds are as bad when flashing then I will just have to live with the battery life as it is.
Yeah, not sure about the 3D screen on the 7 Max. Actually, the guy in the video I watched stated that it was done better than previous "3D" screens. It should only work in landscape mode if it relies of viewing angles.
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You can definitely buy used ones without problems. Just make sure your buying the U.S version. Most, if not all, the 7s on Swappa are U.S. Swappa is much better for buying phones than eBay, and you can negotiate price. I bought mint condition for $280 last week (which I wish I waited, because now they're being sold at 260.
I asked my seller if he would provide original receipt for warranty, and I was able to register the device in my name (he hadn't registered it). Apparently all you need is receipt for proof of purchase date, so as long as you make that a term for the sale, transferring or using the warranty is no problem at all. Once again, this is also what makes Swappa great.
If you want a full 2 years, Newegg has open box deal for $315. I wouldn't think twice about that, and was considering it, but the phone I got was almost brand new and in mint condition for $35 less. Newegg open box items are always mint condition in my experience, and they were devices owned for less than 2 weeks.
5 hours of SOT to me is great. I'd say it's above average,, especially compared to my iPhone 7.
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You can definitely buy used ones without problems. Just make sure your buying the U.S version. Most, if not all, the 7s on Swappa are U.S. Swappa is much better for buying phones than eBay, and you can negotiate price. I bought mint condition for $280 last week (which I wish I waited, because now they're being sold at 260.
I asked my seller if he would provide original receipt for warranty, and I was able to register the device in my name (he hadn't registered it). Apparently all you need is receipt for proof of purchase date, so as long as you make that a term for the sale, transferring or using the warranty is no problem at all. Once again, this is also what makes Swappa great.
If you want a full 2 years, Newegg has open box deal for $315. I wouldn't think twice about that, and was considering it, but the phone I got was almost brand new and in mint condition for $35 less. Newegg open box items are always mint condition in my experience, and they were devices owned for less than 2 weeks.
5 hours of SOT to me is great. I'd say it's above average,, especially compared to my iPhone 7.
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I've purchased 3 items through Swappa and never on ebay, if I buy used that is likely the route I will take. It seems that most of my concerns were unfounded and there were feature that I was not aware of, so that's great. I will take your advice on the warranty and receipt. Are you saying that you can transfer the warranty even if it HAD been previously registered?
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I've purchased 3 items through Swappa and never on ebay, if I buy used that is likely the route I will take. It seems that most of my concerns were unfounded and there were feature that I was not aware of, so that's great. I will take your advice on the warranty and receipt. Are you saying that you can transfer the warranty even if it HAD been previously registered?
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All they want is phone IMEI and receipt. Registering isn't even important it just skips the steps of proving purchase every time you want to use the warranty. I was able to register in my name, because previous owner never used the warranty, but even if they had used it, you can still use the warranty with the original receipt, and update the address that they have in their system for the phone. Just don't tell them you aren't the original owner, because technically it's not supposed to be transferable.
I do have one last question, just how bad is signal strength?
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I do have one last question, just how bad is signal strength?
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Not bad at all for me. I get four bars at home when my iPhone 7 gets 2. I don't know why people say it's bad. Maybe I just got lucky.
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I do have one last question, just how bad is signal strength?
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Well, your mileage may vary... I have OK signal, but a lot of people complain about it. Go to the signal reception thread over at Real life review
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Well, your mileage may vary... I have OK signal, but a lot of people complain about it. Go to the signal reception thread over at Real life review
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The thing is that a lot of people do not state their location, their model or their build so it's hard to know exactly what the implications are. There is at least one guy in Europe who stated that he tested both the A2017G and A2017U and that the A2017U did considerably better. His idea is that if one has the A2017U and has a bad signal in the states that they should do an RMA. That phone had the B27 update which supposedly boosts performance according to multiple comments I've read. I guess what I could do is figure out when B27 came out and only pay attention to the comments of USA based users after that date, I'll do that and report back.
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-10dBm worse than my Nexus 6p
First time owning the phone that I noticed I got full bars
TMobile in NYC and no cellular reception issues so far
Dallas on T-mobile and reception/data speeds are not as consistent or fast as they were on my Galaxy S5
So b27 update made signal WAY better for me!
Tmobile here in south florida, i can tell you signal on this phone suxs
Signal strength improved drastically with the b27 update for US version
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I just recently got the phone, and I haven't noticed any reception issues
So far I've had comparable coverage & speeds as my LG G4.
The A7 just flat out had lower throughput. Mobile data wasn't the only area of weakness. Wifi too. (B29)
it has better signal in my house than a iPhone6 and my OPO (both using T-Mobile)
The US version I pulled out of the box has a production date of Nov 14. Around two months after the first update addressing the antenna. I have no issues.
When I went to update the software, the newest build was already installed. cell signal bar on my stats is all orange and broken. HTC 10, the signal bar is all green
B27 = 3 negative, 3 positive and 1 ambiguous
B29 = 2 negative, 4 positive
Anyway, thanks for the help guys.