Enter password to unlock - LG Spirit Questions & Answers

Hi,
Being stuck at the logo with a Security Error message, decided to try LG Mobile Support Tool to restore SW. Once done, now it says i have the latest version H440N20E. Now, the mobile logo screen is passed but then, melody sounds, and then it shows one screen saying "Enter password to unlock" 30/30 attempts remaining. I have no idea what password to put there. Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advanced
Regards

Try and factory reset
Hold power and volume down until logo shows up, then release and hold them again, you should have a menu pop up, use the volume keys to navigate to yes and select it with the power key.

AbsolutelyProprietary said:
Try and factory reset
Hold power and volume down until logo shows up, then release and hold them again, you should have a menu pop up, use the volume keys to navigate to yes and select it with the power key.
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Already tried and didn't work. It shows an android icon with a red triangle on it during a couple of minutes and the the LG logo, melody and the same "Enter password to unlock" screen. Compared with the behaviour shown here: hardreset.info/devices/lg/lg-spirit-4g-lte-h440n is totally different and the result is also different.
Anyway, thanks for your suggestion

On the menu with the red triangle, try clicking volume up then volume down quickly, should open the menu.

AbsolutelyProprietary said:
On the menu with the red triangle, try clicking volume up then volume down quickly, should open the menu.
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The menu for the hard reset appears. I select with up and down keys the option, confirm using power and then an Android icon with a small red triangle appears for a while. After that device restart and same password screen appear.

cesrodriguez said:
The menu for the hard reset appears. I select with up and down keys the option, confirm using power and then an Android icon with a small red triangle appears for a while. After that device restart and same password screen appear.
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Yes the red triangle, while that screen is on the phone tap volume up then volume down quickly

AbsolutelyProprietary said:
Yes the red triangle, while that screen is on the phone tap volume up then volume down quickly
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While the laying Android with his chest opened and a small triangle on it is on the screen nothing happens whatever button you press. After a couple of minutes device restart.
androidforums.com/threads/android-robot-laying-down-with-a-red-triangle-having-an-exlaimation-mark.702654/
"Red normally indicates corrupted firmware, corrupted ROM or no operating system"

cesrodriguez said:
While the laying Android with his chest opened and a small triangle on it is on the screen nothing happens whatever button you press. After a couple of minutes device restart.
androidforums.com/threads/android-robot-laying-down-with-a-red-triangle-having-an-exlaimation-mark.702654/
"Red normally indicates corrupted firmware, corrupted ROM or no operating system"
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Try this
Do you have adb on your pc? If so connect the phone while it's in recovery mode and run this
adb shell
recovery --wipe_data

AbsolutelyProprietary said:
Try this
Do you have adb on your pc? If so connect the phone while it's in recovery mode and run this
adb shell
recovery --wipe_data
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I'm afraid that to use ADB I should be able to activate the USB Debugging adbshell.com/faqs/adb-device-not-found but in order to activate USB Debugging I should have access to the Settings, adbshell.com/faqs/enable-usb-debugging which is impossible since I cannot even start the phone

Are you sure you have adb drivers installed? Google 15 seconds adb installer

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[Q] Unlock and stuck no matter what

After unlocking the N 10 and pressing start it is stuck on the "cross".
I go back to the bootloader and I see the following message :
" downloading - do not turn off the target" either connected or disconnected from the pc.
In this case there is no up or down arrows the only choice is "start"
From here to go back to the bootloader without the message I have to press power and both volume.
Then I can select recovery. Once in recovery I cannot get into the recovery menu no matter the way I press power and volume.
If I leave the N 10 on recovery after a while it goes back to the screen with the "cross".
Of course in this configuration I cannot access adb and fastboot.
I would really appreciate the help of the forum members.
gunner1937 said:
After unlocking the N 10 and pressing start it is stuck on the "cross".
I go back to the bootloader and I see the following message :
" downloading - do not turn off the target" either connected or disconnected from the pc.
In this case there is no up or down arrows the only choice is "start"
From here to go back to the bootloader without the message I have to press power and both volume.
Then I can select recovery. Once in recovery I cannot get into the recovery menu no matter the way I press power and volume.
If I leave the N 10 on recovery after a while it goes back to the screen with the "cross".
Of course in this configuration I cannot access adb and fastboot.
I would really appreciate the help of the forum members.
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You're in a bootloop. While in recovery (without options) you need to press all 3 buttons on top at the same time. Don't hold them, just press them and release. Once or twice should be enough to pull up the recovery options. Once there, do a factory reset and you'll be all set.
Mine got pretty hosed when unlocking too. Couldn't even get into recovery. Had to use fastboot to flash recovery.img, then I could get into recovery and do a factory reset.
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Blueback22 said:
You're in a bootloop. While in recovery (without options) you need to press all 3 buttons on top at the same time. Don't hold them, just press them and release. Once or twice should be enough to pull up the recovery options. Once there, do a factory reset and you'll be all set.
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Thank you very much (I also press the right button).
At first I wanted to reply that even this option did not work though I tried it more than once. Instead of replying to your post I decided to give a final try and it worked. In my previous attempts I was obviously taking a nap on the 3 buttons.

[Info] Guide to entering safe mode, bootloader, stock recovery

Yes, I know, everyone knows how to enter safe mode, bootloader, and recovery.
I found there are some inconsistencies to entering and using recovery depending on your which software you are running. In addition there are multiple ways of entering stock recovery.
Also I always see people asking this question because somehow the keypress order is not intuitive.
Entering Safe Mode
Tablet booted and running Android
Press/Hold Power button until power menu shows up
Tap/Hold Power off option
Choose OK to reboot in safe mode
Tablet powered down
Press/Hold Power button until Google screen shows up, RELEASE Power button
Press/Hold VolDn until Android has booted up
If successful, you will see Safe mode overlayed on bottom left of screen.
Entering Bootloader (ie fastboot mode)
Tablet booted and running Android
From adb
adb reboot bootloader
can also choose recovery from menu after bootloader comes up
From app
Use Quick Boot from Google Play
Tablet powered down
Power+VolDn while booting to enter bootloader
Release buttons after you see bootloader screen
Entering Stock Recovery
Tablet booted and running Android
From adb
adb reboot recovery
From app
Use Quick Boot from Google Play
Tablet powered down
Power+VolUp while booting to enter recovery
You can release buttons after you see Google on screen
When Stock Recovery starts you will see the Android fallen down screen
To bring up the Recovery menu
Power+VolUp to show recovery menu
Must be this sequence Press/Hold Power, THEN Press/Release VolUp, release Power
Within menu
VolUp to move up
VolDn to move down
Power to select
In addition, I found an inconsistency with JSS15J stock recovery that wasn't in the JWR66N recovery
While at the Android fallen down screen if you mistakenly press
VolUp
instead of
Power+VolUp
you will still get the Recovery menu.
However, VolUp will no longer function. It will instead become a toggle for switching between the Recovery menu and the Android fallen down screen
Android fallen down screen
VolUp to toggle recovery menu
Within menu
VolUp does not work since it toggles recovery menu
VolDn to move down
Power to select
sfhub said:
Entering Stock Recovery
Tablet booted and running Android
From adb
adb reboot recovey
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Are you sure with this command. I think it must be => adb reboot recovery <= or am I wrong ???
pRo_lama said:
Are you sure with this command. I think it must be => adb reboot recovery <= or am I wrong ???
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Sorry, typo, fixed.
i`m on completely stock JSS15Q and i cant get into stock recovery. When im trying i see "no command" and red exclamation mark on the laying robot. What should i do?
laska300 said:
i`m on completely stock JSS15Q and i cant get into stock recovery. When im trying i see "no command" and red exclamation mark on the laying robot. What should i do?
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sfhub said:
Entering Stock Recovery
Tablet powered down
Power+VolUp while booting to enter recovery
You can release buttons after you see Google on screen
When Stock Recovery starts you will see the Android fallen down screen
To bring up the Recovery menu
Power+VolUp to show recovery menu
Must be this sequence Press/Hold Power, THEN Press/Release VolUp, release Power
Within menu
VolUp to move up
VolDn to move down
Power to select
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Please see RED section
Does the presence or absence of the red exclamation triangle mean anything?
Wot does safe mode do?
Anderson2 said:
Does the presence or absence of the red exclamation triangle mean anything?
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I don't remember if there are two images one with and one without the triangle. I think I've only seen the image with the red exclamation point.
I've never seen anything to indicate the red exclamation mark is something you need to pay attention to.
Now if you apply an update and there is an error, then that is something I would pay attention to.
LoVeRice said:
Wot does safe mode do?
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It doesn't load the stuff you added.
It is similar to safe mode on a PC, used to diagnose whether the issue is in the stock ROM or is in something you introduced by installing some app.
I Have a probleme
since a bought TAB 3 10.1 and it's boot into safe mode i'v restart it and turrn it off the back on but it didn't go what should i do ?
This thread is about nexus 7.
sfhub said:
This thread is about nexus 7.
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oh sorry i was panic so i searched in every thing
Bootloader
If none of that works, try the command with a dash "adb reboot-bootloader" Depends on your device sometimes, sometimes unplugging your device right after you enter this command will keep it from getting stuck at the boot logo screen. If that doesn't work, hold the power button to power device down and then boot it into recovery instead using the button combo. Then you can wipe cache & start all over again.
I'm not even able to get into Recovery. I can get to the bootloader, then I select "Recovery mode" and it shows the Google logo, but it never goes into recovery. I have let it sit at the Google logo for a couple of hours, and end up just holding down the power button to shut it down.
I have tried Skipsofts toolkit, as well as Wug's, to try to unlock the bootloader. This ends up with the device hanging at the "Unlock bootloader" screen after selecting "Yes". Again, I have left it in this state for well over an hour with no change.
Here's some info on my 2013 Nexus 7:
KitKat 4.4.4
Never rooted
Never unlocked bootloader
HW version rev-e
Bootloader version FLO-04.02
I suspect my Nexus knew I was supposed to go on travel next week and is faking sick.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Hi guys i have a google nexus 5 and it is locked state. It is getting booted again and again but it jiust reaches google logo and again restarts. Safe boot is also enabled so i cant enter in recovery mode also. Please help me ASAP.

[Q] HD Mini Can't boot up, Help please

Hello everybody (please apologize for my bad english...)
I tried to hard reset my HD Mini which was running Android and now it won't boot up, the phone's displaying some error messages (in green, black screen)
here's the message:
nand id: 0x5500bcec maker=0xec device=0xbc
press VOLUME UP for RECOVERY
press VOLUME DOWN for FASTBOOT
flash_read_image: failed (319 errors)
ERROR: Cannot read recovery_header
flash_read_image: failed (3136 errors)
ERROR: Cannot read kernel image
ERROR: Could not do normal boot. Reverting to fastboot mode.
ENTERING FASTBOOT MODE
udc_start()
Here's what happens when I power the phone holdind Volume - :
PB92100
SPL-1.07.0000
ENGID 0xF
PCBID 0x80
MicroP(LED) 0x05
TP SNAPTICS
Please, could anyone help me to solve the above? has anyone experienced this?
Thank you
First of all, do you want android or Windows?
for android, when you see "ENTERING FASTBOOT MODE" then you can reinstall the Recovery and go!
Thanks for replying.
I just want my phone work again, so either Windows or Android...
But with android, i already intalled LK Boot (the message appears in blue now) then i installed the recovery from SC Dard but when the phone boots, it's only showing the black screen with message (in blue). With windows I stuck with the ''Invalid vendor ID'' while installing with RUU (I can't determinate my Vendor ID). So please help
Regards
esQmo said:
Thanks for replying.
I just want my phone work again, so either Windows or Android...
But with android, i already intalled LK Boot (the message appears in blue now) then i installed the recovery from SC Dard but when the phone boots, it's only showing the black screen with message (in blue). With windows I stuck with the ''Invalid vendor ID'' while installing with RUU (I can't determinate my Vendor ID). So please help
Regards
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You had Android before as you said, so you can come back to android easily. just be really sure you have reinstalled the Recovery correctly! (Even this happened to me, but at last you will Pass!)
have you tried to manually enter recovery by VolumeUp?
Please tell us the ROM you want to use.
I can't enter recovery manually, only with PC (with CWM LK Boot Recovery's update.bat file). when i power on the phone holding volume up, the phone displays this message (in blue = meaning that the LK Boot is installed):
nand id: 0x5500bcec maker=0xec device=0xbc
press VOLUME UP for RECOVERY
press VOLUME DOWN for FASTBOOT
flash_read_image: failed (319 errors)
ERROR: Cannot read recovery_header
flash_read_image: failed (3136 errors)
ERROR: Cannot read kernel image
ERROR: Could not do normal boot. Reverting to fastboot mode.
ENTERING FASTBOOT MODE
udc_start()
The rom i installed is Phonerty-MIUIv4-2.10.26
Thank again for replying
PS: this is what happens when i power phone holding Volume + :
nand id: 0x5500bcec maker=0xec device=0xbc
press VOLUME UP for RECOVERY
press VOLUME DOWN for FASTBOOT
ENTERING FASTBOOT MODE
udc_start()
Good,
When you can't enter Recovery manually (Volume Up), means either it hasn't been installed correctly or you button is damaged. Yes LK Boot is installed (the blue texts) but the Recovery (graphic interface) seems hasn't been installed.
if you can enter Recovery by PC, why not format and install ROM there (don't restart)? you may pass anyway!
and the last thing, did you hold both Power and Volume up? you should just power then release it, but hold Volume UP, what we see in the text you showed us, the phone hasn't detect the pressed Volume Up.
Have a nice try!
iPlasm said:
Good,
When you can't enter Recovery manually (Volume Up), means either it hasn't been installed correctly or you button is damaged. Yes LK Boot is installed (the blue texts) but the Recovery (graphic interface) seems hasn't been installed.
if you can enter Recovery by PC, why not format and install ROM there (don't restart)? you may pass anyway!
and the last thing, did you hold both Power and Volume up? you should just power then release it, but hold Volume UP, what we see in the text you showed us, the phone hasn't detect the pressed Volume Up.
Have a nice try!
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I've also formatted before i install the ROM but no succes...
I don't think there is a problem with the volume up button 'cause i use it in the recovery and when i press both volume buttons and power button it leads me to the WP reset option (factory resset) and i use the volume up button to confim the action (restoring).
And, is there a way in can check my Vendor ID? 'cause i would like to install WP but fastboot doesn't give me the CID, the command ''fastboot getvar CID'' returns ''CID: '' then nothing. I'm so desesperate...
BR.
Going Back to WM you should have the right ROM, or contact HTC for the right one, read this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21617447&postcount=2
And at last, what OS you want to be installed on your phone?
either Android or WP
but android would be better
esQmo said:
either Android or WP
but android would be better
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Alright then,
You said you can't enter Recovery by VolumeUp, right?
if right, connect USB to PC, Click on Update.bat, press number one, then number two, and restart phone (don't unplug phone), when entered fastboot, press number two again, you may now enter manually recovery. if you couldn't pass, press number two and on your phone you would see recovery interface, format and install the ROM, unplug USB and restart phone.....
Okay, will try. thanks again
iPlasm said:
Alright then,
You said you can't enter Recovery by VolumeUp, right?
if right, connect USB to PC, Click on Update.bat, press number one, then number two, and restart phone (don't unplug phone), when entered fastboot, press number two again, you may now enter manually recovery. if you couldn't pass, press number two and on your phone you would see recovery interface, format and install the ROM, unplug USB and restart phone.....
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i see the recovery interface,,,,,,,the cmw... i can access the options using volume up and down button........ but when i select the option using power button the phone restarts......if i press and hold the power button the option is selected and next menu appears but as soon as i let go power button to select option , the phone again restarts....the main thing is that i cant go past the first menu......is my power button faulty???....or is there any other way to use cmw??......and can i install rom using that update.exe command menu??......please help me....
anshulonweb said:
i see the recovery interface,,,,,,,the cmw... i can access the options using volume up and down button........ but when i select the option using power button the phone restarts......if i press and hold the power button the option is selected and next menu appears but as soon as i let go power button to select option , the phone again restarts....the main thing is that i cant go past the first menu......is my power button faulty???....or is there any other way to use cmw??......and can i install rom using that update.exe command menu??......please help me....
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There is nothing no need to press power!
only volume button, you saw the interface and you have to use the touch arrows to begin.
iPlasm said:
There is nothing no need to press power!
only volume button, you saw the interface and you have to use the touch arrows to begin.
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i may sound like noob........but can you please tell me which arrows to touch....i navigate to install zip from sd option using volume keys ....now how do i select it to go to further 2nd menu....there are 4 on screen buttons......are you talking about those on screen arrows???....because i touch them and nothing happens(may be touch screen problem,i recently got it repaired).....is there any other way to install rom using pc???....
anshulonweb said:
i may sound like noob........but can you please tell me which arrows to touch....i navigate to install zip from sd option using volume keys ....now how do i select it to go to further 2nd menu....there are 4 on screen buttons......are you talking about those on screen arrows???....because i touch them and nothing happens(may be touch screen problem,i recently got it repaired).....is there any other way to install rom using pc???....
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yeah I mean those 4 arrow buttons which you should touch them. if you touch the arrow, the selection above will move. And there is no need to move by using Volume keys in Recovery.
using PC, it should be possible through terminal ADB, which are some codes for connection. but I don't support this way.
I recommended that you do it by using touch, if the four arrow touch doesn't work, then how can you use it with Android? especially the Phone app is in the four arrow button direction.
iPlasm said:
yeah I mean those 4 arrow buttons which you should touch them. if you touch the arrow, the selection above will move. And there is no need to move by using Volume keys in Recovery.
using PC, it should be possible through terminal ADB, which are some codes for connection. but I don't support this way.
I recommended that you do it by using touch, if the four arrow touch doesn't work, then how can you use it with Android? especially the Phone app is in the four arrow button direction.
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well my touch is not working then because i press the arrows and nothing happen....... the problem is that even if i get my touch repaired again there is no way of knowing if it is working unless i come home and install recovery again and check it by pressing arrows.... i only see blue screen now...
can you please tell me how to install rom through adb.....i can take the risk.....please i will be very thankful.....once i install rom, i can get my phone repaired because i can show the person that touch is not working and he will repair it.... please help me....
anshulonweb said:
well my touch is not working then because i press the arrows and nothing happen....... the problem is that even if i get my touch repaired again there is no way of knowing if it is working unless i come home and install recovery again and check it by pressing arrows.... i only see blue screen now...
can you please tell me how to install rom through adb.....i can take the risk.....please i will be very thankful.....once i install rom, i can get my phone repaired because i can show the person that touch is not working and he will repair it.... please help me....
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You should follow a guide, search for (Install ROM through adb, install ROM without SDCARD, install ROM via adb)
Anyway, I found this guide may help you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=911228
Remember to enter recovery as you did it (Volume + up), So follow the link above at your risk, you may skip the Wipe/format step.
iPlasm said:
You should follow a guide, search for (Install ROM through adb, install ROM without SDCARD, install ROM via adb)
Anyway, I found this guide may help you: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=911228
Remember to enter recovery as you did it (Volume + up), So follow the link above at your risk, you may skip the Wipe/format step.
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thanks for your help man.....:good:

[Q] Please help,phone works normally, but, getting Stuck on fastboot and recovery

Dear experts,
Phone model: Karbonn A9+
Rom: Custom Rom Hyperion Skyfall
When I hold the power button, the phone turns on and off, No problems with that.
However, when I press volume Up+Power, I get a green screen saying FASTBOOT at the top left corner and that’s it. Nothing happens from that point.
when I press volume Up+Power, I get a green screen and holding the buttons past that I get a red screen saying RECOVERY at the top left corner and that’s it. Nothing happens from that point.
However, when I press volume down+Power, I get a black screen saying ENTRY QPST DOWNLOAD at the top and that’s it. Nothing happens from that point.
I have to remove the battery to turn my phone off.
Moreover, I tried a factory reset erasing internal and external storage, after erasing when the phone is rebooted and gets stuck in the start-up screen. I removed the battery and powered on the mobile ,no problem at all the phone turns on but not resettted.
What I did?
Tried to install latest CWM through recovery, updated it but I pressed something instead of restart your device.
What should I do to make everything work again? I am a noob in Android, please be extra patient and illustrative
Many thanks in advance
same issue
Paalagan said:
Dear experts,
Phone model: Karbonn A9+
Rom: Custom Rom Hyperion Skyfall
When I hold the power button, the phone turns on and off, No problems with that.
However, when I press volume Up+Power, I get a green screen saying FASTBOOT at the top left corner and that’s it. Nothing happens from that point.
when I press volume Up+Power, I get a green screen and holding the buttons past that I get a red screen saying RECOVERY at the top left corner and that’s it. Nothing happens from that point.
However, when I press volume down+Power, I get a black screen saying ENTRY QPST DOWNLOAD at the top and that’s it. Nothing happens from that point.
I have to remove the battery to turn my phone off.
Moreover, I tried a factory reset erasing internal and external storage, after erasing when the phone is rebooted and gets stuck in the start-up screen. I removed the battery and powered on the mobile ,no problem at all the phone turns on but not resettted.
What I did?
Tried to install latest CWM through recovery, updated it but I pressed something instead of restart your device.
What should I do to make everything work again? I am a noob in Android, please be extra patient and illustrative
Many thanks in advance
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I am facing the same issue...today i flashed "ClockWorkMod_Recovery_V6_-_Karbonn_A15.zip" . It was flashed successfully. But after that whenever I try to enter recovery mode using Power+ Volume up keys, it shows red screen... thats it....i do not see typical recovery screen menu. However the screen turns full white. Only option is to take out the battery and restart the phone.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP

[GUIDE]Booting into the LG G5 stock recovery

Yo its me,instead of booting into hard reset menu,i've found a way to boot right into the stock recovery mode and might help some devs to develop something for it or clearing the cache partition for else.:laugh:
Here's how:
1,Enable USB debugging
2,Plug in the phone,select File transfer
3,Open the active ADB directory,fire up command prompt and enter the following text:
Code:
adb reboot recovery
4,You should get a android doll with NO COMMAND screen,
(Below part please give it a few more try,it will succeed)
5,hold volup+power to approx. 10 sec and release
Bah.You just entered the LG's stock recovery.
Sadly the "reboot to bootloader" function failed and just boot straight back to the system,if somehow we could found how to get rid of it,the root is here
sadly its not working on H860
[email protected] said:
sadly its not working on H860
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It should be working as long as you reach to the dead android doll
I can see the android doll but after that it reboots like normal.
You can also power off phone or select restart. Once phone is off and notification lights are off, press and hold volume down & power button. Keep holding it down once phone starts. You will see LG boot logo then recovery mode. Must keep holding down both buttons until you see recovery mode.
There is also an option to mount /system in the stock recovery. Was trying to use adb to push some files to /system, but phone is only recognized when you select the sideload using adb option.
Out of luck
No luck on H860, it just reboot the phone....
sclarktay4 said:
You can also power off phone or select restart. Once phone is off and notification lights are off, press and hold volume down & power button. Keep holding it down once phone starts. You will see LG boot logo then recovery mode. Must keep holding down both buttons until you see recovery mode.
There is also an option to mount /system in the stock recovery. Was trying to use adb to push some files to /system, but phone is only recognized when you select the sideload using adb option.
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sclarktay4 said:
You can also power off phone or select restart. Once phone is off and notification lights are off, press and hold volume down & power button. Keep holding it down once phone starts. You will see LG boot logo then recovery mode. Must keep holding down both buttons until you see recovery mode.
There is also an option to mount /system in the stock recovery. Was trying to use adb to push some files to /system, but phone is only recognized when you select the sideload using adb option.
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As soon as the phone vibrates and LG logo shows up you have to let go of power button and press and hold again until white recovery screen appears, vol down always held down.

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