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Hi,
When I dispay a black background color on my X1 for example the pannel screen while it is switching to a different pannel or standard pannel I see a bit of light leakage on the top 2 corners of the screen from each side. A bit white, if you understand what i mean.
Does anyone notice that?
Thanks for the info
Yep I notice it too. Probably a case of bad backlight LED placement.
This screen doesn't seem to have as good a contrast ratio (black levels) as the one on the Touch Pro.
it's rather massive. Its even visible on camera mode when you have wide-mode off.
I hate living with imperfection.
How bad is it on your device?
I have to say its not visible when other colors than black are displayed
I'm probably seeing the same thing as you are - two bright areas on the top/left edge of the display.
The light is "leaking" because the display contrast isn't high enough and the screen assembly is a bit thin.
It's something I can live with, but I do wish SE had sourced for a better display. HTC has raised the bar since Diamond and Raphael, and this one is pretty good for a Windows Mobile device, but there are tons of even better screens out there - think Japanese super-keitais.
humm.. I was trying to look for the light leakage but I can't really seem to see it.... perhaps you could post some photos of what it actually looks like?
yup, it's there
don't see any leakage on mine...
I tried one in the shop and the screen was tilting left a little bit. Also the flip was a bit loose even in closed. Any comfirmation?
I'm pretty sure all devices have the same leakage problem. Just put on a pure black screen and look for the white cones decending from the top corners.
It's because of the led's behind the screen I guess
honestly, there's very little (leakage, short of better term) if not none. If you have seen TouchPro, it leaks like crazy...
Leakage is pretty terrible, no doubt about it. Wonder if this fault is only on some handsets?
zenkinz said:
honestly, there's very little (leakage, short of better term) if not none. If you have seen TouchPro, it leaks like crazy...
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My TP don't have this at all. Virtually no leakage. Pretty much solid black even in pitch black environment. Contrast and viewing angles are excellent. One of the best if not the best screen I've seen to date. Seems like they're using 8 bit panel instead of 6 bit TN panel. The latter have terrible contrast and viewing angle as standard.
lucky if u only seen it on top corners, mine are on all corners!
i don't see any leakage... went into a pitch black room and pressed the panel button and i see no white light coming out of the corners...
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My TP don't have this at all. Virtually no leakage. Pretty much solid black even in pitch black environment. Contrast and viewing angles are excellent. One of the best if not the best screen I've seen to date. Seems like they're using 8 bit panel instead of 6 bit TN panel. The latter have terrible contrast and viewing angle as standard.
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then you must have a rare TP, all the TP owners in Singapore reported to have the same leakage. that's if we are talking about the same thing with regards to light leakage...
Hi,
2 days ago a friend of me and me bougt this moblie,
yesterday i gave it back to the store, cause i've seen the white
leakage on my display too, on the devise of my friend its ok.
today I'll get a new one. Hope its ok there....
Thought it was damage or so....
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then you must have a rare TP, all the TP owners in Singapore reported to have the same leakage. that's if we are talking about the same thing with regards to light leakage...
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Maybe I'm missing the point here. Do you mind posting a screen shot of the issue so we can be on the same boat? Now you've got me curious.
I'll try and post a photo when I get home later, mine is mainly in the bottom left half of the screen and it's really noticeable and distracting when viewing something dark.
Hmmm, I've definitely noticed leakage on my xperia, in the bottom left hand corner when in landscape.
I had a Touch Pro for a few weeks before I got the xperia, and the screen on that was flawless. I might give vodafone a ring and see if I can get it replaced...
Don't forget to switch the display brightness to full to be able to observe the leakage. When I watch the Bond trailer I can definitely see the leakage on the top corners when there is a black background in the beginning. It's rather distrubing but I do believe that all devices have that in some sort of extent. I think you just have to get used to it and live with it.
As seen by the NoLED app over in the dev section, and in a few other places on the net, people are finding that when they display a black image on their amoled/samoled screens in a dark room there is still light emitted by the display. it is not truly black
I would like to know why!
One thing i hear is about image compression and signal noise causing the pixels to not display #000000 black and instead a variant of black/grey causing the pixel to become lit.
This problem is not an issue during the day, i can't tell the difference when my screen is displaying black or off. but what it does effect is battery life.
If the screen isn't powering down its pixels then it is not saving anywhere near as much power as it could do
Also
How happy are you with your display?
I knew about the pentile problem before buying, however i am not dissatisfied with the display at all. Infact if i did not read up about it i would not have realised there was anything different with the screen.
Text is clear and sharp, images are vibrant, and colours seem true with no issue of pink problems like the desire
looool, look at any lcd screen(tv whatsoever) and you don't have true black, because the backlight is on. Only the best LED LCD screens in TV world have FULL LED backlight that can dim the leds from parts of the screen that are fully black in the processed image.
take care
yup, if you take apart your LCD watch, phone, laptop or monitor
you'll see 2 layers, first layer the LCD/TFT/AMOLED/SAMOLED/etc whatever new technology screen you can think of name it here.
then the bottom layer is pretty much like a light bulb/white led/ccfl or whatever you want to call it to light up the first portion of the screen.
most devices you can control the 2 separate pieces separately via "screen" and "back light"
you'll noticed that usually on software options what specifically lets you control both indedpendly.
Eh.. Yes But the SGS hade OLED screen. So it should be able to turn pixels completly off. My guess is that each led has some very small current applied to it possibly to speed up response off screen.
But it come close to true blacks..
EDIT
OLED screen has NO backlight... Each pixel is an tiny led...
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thanks for the heads up, that's good to know
i've yet to take apart a new SGS to figure out how the AMOLED displays works
You guys need educating on displays lol
oled screens have no backlight, thus no backlight bleed.
That means that this is a software issue, unless the screen not powering down completely is intentional
Software issue and nothing more.
Open up the calculator, drag down the numpad, hide the 2 stripes (status bar and numpad drag bar) in the top and bottom of the screen, and tell me if you see any lighting.
There's absolutely nothing.
there is still light emitted. cover up the top and bottom bar with your hands, go into a completely dark room then look into the center of the screen.
There is a uniform glow, just like when looking at a black image in the gallery or browser
It's actually more noticeable if you look AWAY. The peripheral area of your retina will be able to pick up a very feeble amount of light. Feeble, sure, but it's there nonetheless.
seriously, guys?
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seriously, guys?
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The problem is that the way it is supposed to work is that if you display black, the screen shouldn't use any energy at all but it is and people can see it and so is using precious battery charge.
The issue is... that apps like noled which were going to display a red dot on the screen to let people know if they had mail waiting or whatever wouldnt use much power at all because they were displaying mainly a black screen but it isnt actually black and still using light so still chews through the power..
hope that made sense.. but that is why people are interested in it..
Ok, I missed the battery part, sorry If so, it is indeed an annoyance...
I thought people were seriously complaining about image quality.
I have the Samsung wave and it uses the same screen technology and I can tell that it does not have true blacks pixels are still lit, I can easily tell that its on and totally off there is a very faint trace amount of light produced..
Since I first got this device and turned it on I have been impressed with the display. I am kind of partial to AMOLED diplays and am, thus, a bit biased. What surprised me was that it "appeared" sharper than the display on the Nexus One. Considering it is slightly larger and at the same resolution I just assumed that it wasn't using the PenTile arrangement - yet it appears that it does in fact use the same subpixel arrangement as the screen on the Nexus One. My point is... now I've forgotten my point. Basically that I am more than satisfied with this display.
As far as the black issue is concerned I have no idea. There must be some reason considering that was one of the supposed strengths of this technology (i.e. true blacks and lower power consumption).
El Mono
wait so why would you display an image if you want to save battery?
really
How many of you have measured how much power is being used up when the display is displaying a true black image(measured with multimeter, or other measuring device)
How many of you have made sure that the glow is not caused by a residual charge in the display?
How many of you know how much time it takes for the "glow" to leave an OLED panel when power is not being applied?
just some food for thought
The thing is, amoled screens were advertised as having true blacks and having the pixels off when displaying black. this is clearly not the case
It's not an issue with the technology. The screen doesn't have a back lighting panel, so i think it's more of a problem of what shade is default defined as "black" in the system, or something with any current running through the screen.
Well considering the screen doesn't turn off when displaying a 100% black bitmap image, its safe to say that the say that the pixels NEVER turn themselves off during use when displaying black
Could be the screen isn't calibrated properly, or they lied to us about the tech(wouldn't be the first time).
While its not "true black" it is defenently beyond what any backlit screentype can do regarding blacks.
Except perhaps for the retina display forged by god himself
But I agree that if Samsung states True black then it should be able to do that.
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I own both Samsung Captivate and Focus, both devices have SUPER AMOLED screen. Both devices have burn-in problem after months of usage.
Captivate:
I could see the notification bar on top of the screen with the fuzzy clock and battery indicator burn-in to the screen with very pale color especially very noticeable with a white screen! I also saw AT&T stores had these demo units experiencing the exact problem! I then called up Samsung to replace the Super AMOLED screen. Now it's fine but very annoying.
Samsung Focus:
I just got mine in Dec and didn't use a lot on that device. There is a very good reason why WP7 has to hide those status indicators on top to prevent Super AMOLED screen burn-in problem. I also checked out the demo units in AT&T stores, all of the Focus had Windows Phone 7 logo burn-in to the screen at the top left corner due to the static logo constantly playing on the demo mode.
In conclusion:
SUPER AMOLED screen's quality life-time is still short compare to LCDs. Given about 2 months of usage, 8 hours a day with static image such as notification bars for example, burn-in issue is inevitable! In real-life daily usage, give it about 2.6 hrs a day, your screen will be burnt after 6 months.
NEVER USE SUPER AMOLED SCREEN WITH STATIC IMAGE!
On my phone the screen isn't on for very long periods. Even when I am talking on it if near my face the screen is off.
How does this compare to your experience?
Does a phone in demo mode have the screen on constantly?
The only reson OLED isn't so widely used is because of its limited life span (especially on blue color). From what I read in the past, it is very difficult to get blue channel pixels pass 2,000 hours of life span. Not sure if AMOLED or SAMOLED made any advancement in this area. So, the precautions should always be taken. Let your phone screen on 8-hour a day is not a good approach. That's why there is a setting to let phone go into sleep and turn off the display.
My Captivate has been working flawless since August 2010 with zero image retention or burn in.
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The only reson OLED isn't so widely used is because of its limited life span (especially on blue color). From what I read in the past, it is very difficult to get blue channel pixels pass 2,000 hours of life span. Not sure if AMOLED or SAMOLED made any advancement in this area. So, the precautions should always be taken. Let your phone screen on 8-hour a day is not a good approach. That's why there is a setting to let phone go into sleep and turn off the display.
My Captivate has been working flawless since August 2010 with zero image retention or burn in.
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How many hours per day do you keep your screen turned on? I would give that minimum 480 hrs with static image to experience burn-in. No need to wait 2000 hrs of life-time in Blue Channel in AMOLED.
The life-time of the entire Super AMOLED is here and I'm also being conservative: 480Hrs to start to get burn-in issue using AT&T store demo units as reference.
wildbilll said:
On my phone the screen isn't on for very long periods. Even when I am talking on it if near my face the screen is off.
How does this compare to your experience?
Does a phone in demo mode have the screen on constantly?
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I use skype and bluetooth headsets alot, so screen shut down may not happen at all until i manually shut off the screen. Moreover, using GPS navigation will definitely cause burn-in problem with static images such as the miles, eta, notification bar, clock, battery indicator, etc.
Android is just not a good OS for Super AMOLED. WP7 on the other hand is for Super AMOLED.
I'd estimate less than 30 minutes total per day (only counts screen on time). So, 480 hrs should let me use my phone for 960 days, or way beyond my tolerance for an *old* phone.
If I'm sitting in a meeting broswing internet or reading news using some apps, almost all of them are full screen and won't necessary have static images on the fixed locations.
Turn the brightness down (I use auto brightness setting) and don't let the screen on for extended period. You will be fine.
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Android is just not a good OS for Super AMOLED. WP7 on the other hand is for Super AMOLED.
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I have to agree. The metro color schem (black in most of the screen) is the best way to reduce AMOLED battery usage and lower the potential burn-in risk.
squarejp said:
I own both Samsung Captivate and Focus, both devices have SUPER AMOLED screen. Both devices have burn-in problem after months of usage.
Captivate:
I could see the notification bar on top of the screen with the fuzzy clock and battery indicator burn-in to the screen with very pale color especially very noticeable with a white screen! I also saw AT&T stores had these demo units experiencing the exact problem! I then called up Samsung to replace the Super AMOLED screen. Now it's fine but very annoying.
Samsung Focus:
I just got mine in Dec and didn't use a lot on that device. There is a very good reason why WP7 has to hide those status indicators on top to prevent Super AMOLED screen burn-in problem. I also checked out the demo units in AT&T stores, all of the Focus had Windows Phone 7 logo burn-in to the screen at the top left corner due to the static logo constantly playing on the demo mode.
In conclusion:
SUPER AMOLED screen's quality life-time is still short compare to LCDs. Given about 2 months of usage, 8 hours a day with static image such as notification bars for example, burn-in issue is inevitable! In real-life daily usage, give it about 2.6 hrs a day, your screen will be burnt after 6 months.
NEVER USE SUPER AMOLED SCREEN WITH STATIC IMAGE!
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I have both devices and neither or them display image retention. What method or program are you using to test this?
I downloaded a flashlight app on the captivate and on the Focus so I could turn the whole screen white. I also adjusted it to other color,s still see no burned in images.
I've had my Captivate and Focus since day one when they were first released by AT&T.
Go to any AT&T cooperate stores to check out all the burn-in screens. For captivate I use screen test. It cycles from white, black, green, red, blue, and other pallets. I can garauntee you that all Super AMOLED screens are the same given static images and keep the screen turned on such as notification bar, full battery notification, GPS app.
If you don't have any burn-in problems that means you haven't used the screen long enough even you got your devices since launch.
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If you don't have any burn-in problems that means you haven't used the screen long enough even you got your devices since launch.
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The key here is to keep the screen-on time as short as possible. For normal usage, it will be fine. Will it have burn in 2 or 3 years down the road? Sure, but I probably have to dig it out from the bottom of my drawer to check it out by then. I'd rather enjoy my sharp crispy and colorful SAMOLED for 2 years than worry about burn-in and settle for murky, low contrast and washed out color of the LCD screen for 2 years.
Store demos are the worse case senario.
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I'd rather enjoy my sharp crispy and colorful SAMOLED for 2 years than worry about burn-in and settle for murky, low contrast and washed out color of the LCD screen for 2 years.
Store demos are the worse case senario.
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Very true! But still people really need to beware of their SUPER AMOLED screen. But for gamers...... make sure don't allow a static screen staying on for too long.
Well, I was reading an email yesterday on my focus and noticed that the smiley message icon was like a little ghost in the background. I also noticed the circle/arrow icon. I use orange on black mainly. I moved the tiles around a bit, we'll see if it goes away.
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Well, I was reading an email yesterday on my focus and noticed that the smiley message icon was like a little ghost in the background. I also noticed the circle/arrow icon. I use orange on black mainly. I moved the tiles around a bit, we'll see if it goes away.
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and disappeared?
No, it did not go away. It's only visible on white screens, but it is definitely there. I guess I'm going to drop by the at&t store to see if it's a warranty issue, but I highly doubt it. My guess is I'm stuck with it. Since I use the black theme it's not a huge issue, but when I switch to the white theme it looks pretty awful.
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Very true! But still people really need to beware of their SUPER AMOLED screen. But for gamers...... make sure don't allow a static screen staying on for too long.
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Why beware? Image Persistance can happen on any screen that is left running static for long periods of time. In most of the AT&T stores that I have been in the demo units are set to stay up and running for which I can only assume is to attract people. This will cause the image persistance that you are talking about. These phones screens also get used a lot more than your personal cell will.
Use your phone and don't worry about something that may or may not happen. In two years or less you will likely have a new one anyway.
Hilarious!
This reminds me of the times where projector tvs and lately plasma tvs exhibit the same not-suitable-for-gaming problem! LOL
That's one of the reasons I got the Motorola Atrix with its LCD screen!
My previous smartphone was a Nexus One and even though it didn't exhibit ghosting problems, I always tried to use it as little as possible and used the screen on its dimmest setting.
Now I can leave the screen on at full brightness for hours (like for GPS driving for instance) without any remorse!
I have the the imprint of Internet Explorer Mobile's chome burned onto my screen.
1+ hour of continuing browsing daily.
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I have the the imprint of Internet Explorer Mobile's chome burned onto my screen.
1+ hour of continuing browsing daily.
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Im a high internet user and txtin user etc.. and on my old galaxy s i had the qwerty keyboard burnt onto my screen and not i have my galaxy s2 i can see the same thing startin to happen. For me if this isnt sorted by the time i get another phone in say a yr n half, as much as i adore my amoled screens im defo not goin down that rd again, wat a shame they cnt sort this out, and they r makin thousands of phones and tablets with these screens, so not cool samsung
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Im a high internet user and txtin user etc.. and on my old galaxy s i had the qwerty keyboard burnt onto my screen and not i have my galaxy s2 i can see the same thing startin to happen. For me if this isnt sorted by the time i get another phone in say a yr n half, as much as i adore my amoled screens im defo not goin down that rd again, wat a shame they cnt sort this out, and they r makin thousands of phones and tablets with these screens, so not cool samsung
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They have been trying very hard in the past decade or so. The main problem is the blue channel pixels' life span. Most companies have ditched their effort and move to other technologies. That's the main reason why there is no consumer TVs made of the OLED screens other than the $4000 Sony 14" OLED tv.
Unless there is a scientific breakthrough, this situation will remain for years to come.
Has anyone dealt with Samsung Tech support on this issue I just got off the phone with them and they wanted me to do a Hard reset. I tried to explain that this was a physical issue, but they still wanted to follow their script.
Now they have sent me a label to send it off but want me to remove my SD card. It ismy understanding that this card is bonded to the phone and cannot be used in a replacement phone if they send me one. I am going to call them back ut based on my previous conversation I am not holding out hope that anyone there will know what I am talking about.
I don't know if these if happening on all our s2's.
basically, I noticed brightness goes down when displaying a lot of whites. e.g. google vs the whites in a page with more darker areas. (i don't think it's my eyes.)
I've never noticed this on my hd2, or any other phones.
when displaying google's in the browser, the white is not impressive at all.
another test i did was with an image I created (attached), half black half white. open in gallery and slide it so more black shows, or more white shows. The whole screen changes brightness!
My friend's S2 does the same.
can anyone confirm?
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I don't know if these if happening on all our s2's.
basically, I noticed brightness goes down when displaying a lot of whites. e.g. google vs the whites in a page with more darker areas. (i don't think it's my eyes.)
I've never noticed this on my hd2, or any other phones.
when displaying google's in the browser, the white is not impressive at all.
another test i did was with an image I created (attached), half black half white. open in gallery and slide it so more black shows, or more white shows. The whole screen changes brightness!
can anyone confirm?
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That's actually a power-saving feature you can turn off.
Go into Settings -> Display -> Scroll down and untick 'Auto adjust screen power'.
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Weird screen issue, confirmed on two so far.
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You exchanged your first phone because of this silly thing?
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That's actually a power-saving feature you can turn off.
Go into Settings -> Display -> Scroll down and untick 'Auto adjust screen power'.
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Its not.
Its definitely there irrespective of display settings.
Basically even when you are not moving picture, have a look near the border.
There is definite grey banding near the border. It kinda looks like white is bleeding into the black.
And its there on every SGS2, every single one. It can be hardware or software issue.
@OP. you are definitely not alone. I was actually having talk with my friends in UK. 6 of us now have SGS2. 2 are from O2, 3 from P4U and 1 from Handtec and mine is from Clove.
All are experiencing same thing. Its definitely not your eyes.
@others. Its not a glaring issue. You wont notice i t unless there is extreme contrast images on screen like this one. My dad still couldnt notice it when I was showing it to him. But its still there. Will upload video, but its hard to pick on video as well.
It's an option in the Display settings - auto adjust screen brightness after analysing image or something similar.
Samsung thing, I think, since my Omnia 7 with Windows Phone did exactly the same thing. It's trying to save you power and completely normal.
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Its not.
Its definitely there irrespective of display settings.
Basically even when you are not moving picture, have a look near the border.
There is definite grey banding near the border. It kinda looks like white is bleeding into the black.
And its there on every SGS2, every single one. It can be hardware or software issue.
@OP. you are definitely not alone. I was actually having talk with my friends in UK. 6 of us now have SGS2. 2 are from O2, 3 from P4U and 1 from Handtec and mine is from Clove.
All are experiencing same thing. Its definitely not your eyes.
@others. Its not a glaring issue. You wont notice i t unless there is extreme contrast images on screen like this one. My dad still couldnt notice it when I was showing it to him. But its still there. Will upload video, but its hard to pick on video as well.
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Thanks very much guys, I think I can accept it if it's all built like that. With that option off it really helped! (I feel a lil retarded now). But for some reason that test image I made still has that dimming effect (double tap it in the gallery, this instant change makes it obvious), but maybe that's normal, not fussed. (normal web browsing is perfect)
And no I didn't exchange any phones. Mine does have a dead pixel tho. Can anyone check their screens for dead pixels for me? I know someone had blue lines and stuff on their units, that's a bit drastic. I'm just wondering how many actually have say 1 dead pixel, so I have a better picture before I actually exchange mine or something.
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Yea, I've already got that turned off including power saving mode (mentioned in first post).
Thanks very much tho guys, I think I can accept it if it's all built like that.
And no I didn't exchange any phones. Mine does have a dead pixel tho. Can anyone check their screens for dead pixels for me? I know someone had blue lines and stuff on their units, that's a bit drastic. I'm just wonder how many actually have say 1 dead pixel, so I have a better picture before I actually exchange mine or something.
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Nah, no dead pixels or other screen issues here. If you have dead pixel, i would return it.
Here is the video, its not clear as camera limitations dont really show it properly, but at 720P you can see it for fraction of second, that is not the lens glare but screen turning grey right above the white border.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGr7xJ1JIjU
around 0:15-0-18 in that video.
As mentioned, its a power saving feature as AMOLED screens don't like whites as they drain power, they prefer blacks. So reducing the brightness helps to save battery.
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Nah, no dead pixels or other screen issues here. If you have dead pixel, i would return it.
Here is the video, its not clear as camera limitations dont really show it properly, but at 720P you can see it for fraction of second, that is not the lens glare but screen turning grey right above the white border.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGr7xJ1JIjU
around 0:15-0-18 in that video.
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I can see it grey in the video, almost like that gingerbread scroll limit effect. very hard to see in the video though, would have just said it was the camera.
Yea I'm considering returning. In my other post, I mentioned how Handtec got back to me. In short, not fault since only 1 pixel, but told me I can exchange/return within 7 days. But, they said since it's not a fault, I'll have to pay shipping both ways. (£28 per way, ouch)
Does that sound right??
Just a thought, could not the grey area when moving a black/white border area simply be the screen pixels taking a few milliseconds to go from completely dim, to grey, then to completely white, ie just a response time, albeit a bit slower than what I would have guessed?
On my SGS, going into a completely black app drawer with bright icons and moving around, it also has a very slight dragging effect on some white/black constrasting areas?
I actually have some pixels burned in at the top of the phone, kind of where the black bars would be if you play a video at original 16:9 format.
I haven't checked my navbar button are yet.
I'm dissappointed, I've had the Galaxy S4, S5, S6, and S7 and none of those displays got burn-ins for me.
Can you take a photo of it with another camera?
Hi everyone,
I would like to know if you have the same "problem ". I've received a galaxy s8 last Friday. Everything was great except one. I've a noticed a potential image retention. For example, the (black) navbar remained on the screen for 3-5 second after closing an app. Or the black bar on the top (when apps aren't full screen) was noticeable also after closing. So I went to a store to see their galaxy s8 and s8+ and test it. The results was clear, their galaxy s8 had the same "problem" but not the s8+. So I decided to change my phone and get a new. Surprise, same thing... then I went to another store and their s8 also had this potential issue but not their s8+. So I've seen 4 galaxy s8 having this problem. My question is simple. Am I the only one ? Will it get worse ? Is it normal ? I don't think that my store is going to change my phone again. Keep in mind that this "image retention" is more noticeable on a blue or gray picture. Thanks for your answers.
Wait i thought black pixels would be turned off when watching with black bars so that wouldnt cause a burn in or does it?
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Wait i thought black pixels would be turned off when watching with black bars so that wouldnt cause a burn in or does it?
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Correct, black is turned off, but with black background, light coloured icons are on, and quickly burn in compared to those around it.
But this seems ridiculously quick.
oled burn-in is actually caused by pixels being turned off, but shouldn't be visible this quickly.
it's caused by active pixels being "used up" quicker than inactive pixels.
but are you sure there's actual burn in?
the navigation and notification bars aren't completely transparent, they'll always show a faint black background that looks a bit like a shadow.
and on oled screens that completely disable "black" pixels often have a slight delay when switching between black and colored.
Yes and it's not that bad. I just know that I had this problem on my s6 edge after 6 months. So if I have it after one week with my s8, how will be the screen after 6 months ? I'm just worry about permanent burn in...
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oled burn-in is actually caused by pixels being turned off, but shouldn't be visible this quickly.
it's caused by active pixels being "used up" quicker than inactive pixels.
but are you sure there's actual burn in?
the navigation and notification bars aren't completely transparent, they'll always show a faint black background that looks a bit like a shadow.
and on oled screens that completely disable "black" pixels often have a slight delay when switching between black and colored.
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so this means using black wallpaper is not recommended ?
hamdir said:
so this means using black wallpaper is not recommended ?
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Either defective screens or s8 screen in general is a joke. My s7e doesn't have any visible burn-out(yep, that's how it's called in amoled screens, it's decaying light output of the individual pixels compared to the those around them) after 8m heavy use.
Did anyone see this? http://phandroid.com/2017/05/02/galaxy-s8-screen-burn-in-fix/
high_voltage said:
Either defective screens or s8 screen in general is a joke. My s7e doesn't have any visible burn-out(yep, that's how it's called in amoled screens, it's decaying light output of the individual pixels compared to the those around them) after 8m heavy use.
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So you had the same problem like us but it didn't get worse ?
Enzo1707 said:
So you had the same problem like us but it didn't get worse ?
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No, I don't have any kind of a problem with the display and I hope it will stay that way. I am just saying I never tried to search for it hense no visible burn-out. All I care is for a real usage problem, not forced search for it.