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So I have seen countless complaints on battery and reception regarding the new radio. I personally haven't upgraded it, but seeing as I have seen so many complaints, I'd like to hear if anyone liked the new radio.
I'm not sure if it's the ROM, peoples' location, or what is causing the issues for some people, but so far I am getting an all-negative reaction which makes me not want to update it at all...
Any thoughts specifically regarding the new radio??
i live in ohio and the radio update has improved my signal...at work i would never get an 3g signal and after 8 hours would basically need to throw my phone on the charger...after the update i feeel like i got an extended batter i never leave 3g coverage while at my desk its great i think the main thing it does is attain the 3g better thus improving battery through a quality signal...i am interested to see if it does have someting to do with location as ive seen the mass negativity about this radio update...my opinion people get cold feet about the radio and subconciously start hating it
i flashed the .03 radio. everything seems the same same same
The new radio has GREATLY improved my battery life, but I really cant tell any difference in reception.
troyboytn said:
The new radio has GREATLY improved my battery life, but I really cant tell any difference in reception.
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Kind of agree. I can't tell a difference in reception but I believe it has improved my battery.
My battery keeps a charge a lot longer. Also since I've been getting better reception
Im running thr new radio with damage's rom, battery seems wayyy better and signal as well..internet browsings faster too.not sure if thats cause of the new radio or rom.goood stufffff
I haven't really noticed any difference in battery life or signal, not better but not worse either.
Don't really notice any difference after flashing the new one.
+1 better reception and battery here...
phx, az
Didnt seem to kill the battery any faster, I dont think.
It didnt seem to improve my reception
it actually seemed to make my data slower. im still testing this.
I have nothing against it, but Ive had sprint for 10years in my area and after a few months I knew how many bars I had at certain locations.
well after the upgrade I seem to get LESS reception (bars) then before. I dont experience dropped calls or missed txts, etc. so I see no point to go back to the old one. doesnt bother me
as far as battery life I have a 1800mAh battery they still hasnt had but maybe half a dozen charges so i cant really give you any better of an idea.
My battery life is a little better. My reception is not any worse or better really. I see less "bars" but bars don't mean much. My db reading is -75 in my office, which is the same as with the old radio. I do notice my data rates went from about 1100-1200 down to about 600-800 down at best. Upload rates went from 700-800 to 500-600. So I notice slower data which is a bummer.
my battery life drastically improved. i haven't noticed data difference.
I upgraded the radio at the same time I upgraded to the newest Fresh Rom. Shortly after I loaded damage control.
At first I thought my reception was worse but then noticed the signal strength bars only had 4 instead of 6, which makes it look like less signal. But my internet seems noticably faster (could be the 2.1 Rom) and I'm not dropping calls and reception is clear on phone calls.
As to battery life; again hard to say with the new OS, bit its not any worse than before. Still have to charge every night under normal use and sooner with some extra Pandora action tossed in.
I'm averaging 2.5 - 3% battery per hour with the new radio, but I also upgraded to a 2.1 ROM at the same time.
With the 1.5 ROM I was running and the old radio I was averaging 4 - 4.5% per hour.
I can't definitively say if it was the ROM or the radio that made the difference though.
I'm running an Andida 2000mah battery too.
-Daryel
I haven't noticed a difference either way...I went back to stock for the heck of it and everything seems the same...
Meh, its good. I feel like I am getting better battery life. Not sure though. Give or take.
I live in an area that no carrier has great reception, so yeah.
hey guys thanks for all the feedback. i was wondering about this too and since im on this thread i guess i can ask about what .zip file i should use for my rom? or is it the same? im running damageless. thanks!
I say there needs to be an experiment... would the same "differences" come up if a "radio update" came out that only changed the #'s of the baseband version, but said it was better?
just a thought.
So my wife hates the battery life of her Inc. I even got her a bigger battery (the one that is bigger but still fits with the stock back) and its really gotten bad. She gets maybe a days use. And use for her is hardly any data mostly talking on the phone. Its maybe 30mins to an hour on average of talking, some texting, and that its about it. I would think the battery would last longer.
I am no stranger to rooting and loading Roms, did it on my Droid 1 and now on my Thunderbolt, but the wife's phone has been off limits. But now its getting to the point where I want to step in and improve it. So I don't want to be flashing roms all the time, just need a stable rom with some nice bells and whistles, a good kernel for battery life, and I can load it and not have to worry about it.
ruby rom 2.0.2 and incredikernel 4/19 and then underclock it in gem settings. the best battery life ive seen ever across any android device ive had. its an aosp rom meaning no sense widgets, but that can be fixed with a third party launcher like Launcher pro plus. Not even sure if thats a factor. You could also try the xda superpower app wgich gives you automation with certain battery drainers, ie. 3g. let me know if you need help, because I have been on the quest for long battery life for a while and this is it.
I think she likes the Sense stuff, don't want to make it look too different than what she has now.
skyraider 4.1 with stock kernel then.
When you say "stock kernel" do you mean the kernel that comes with skyraider or the actual stock kernel (or does skyraider come with the stock kernel?).
it comes with the stock kernel. also check what is syncing and how often in system settings.
yeah I have clean out her syncing stuff, Cell Standby is using the most power, so I am not sure what is going on.
something is syncing definitely too much. my standby time is around 3% all the time and I manually sync.
I'm running SR4.1 with chad's 12/23; I unplug at around 7:30, and by the end of the day (around 10pm or so) I'm usually sitting at around 50-75% battery; that's with wifi/data off (turned on when I need them) and moderate texting (phone on vibrate) all day.
If you're getting Cell Standby as the biggest battery drain, that means she's in areas with low signal and its trying to find a stronger signal.
^^^^ That too. Forgot that part, but for whatever reason ive noticed sense roms have higher usage. Coincidense, maybe.
Do you mean higher usage as in Cell Standby or just in general? Just in general I can see why, because it has to draw more graphics on the screen for the UI.
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Do you mean higher usage as in Cell Standby or just in general? Just in general I can see why, because it has to draw more graphics on the screen for the UI.
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im talking cell standby. strange, I know.
Hmm, that's weird. Could be because of stuff like HTC Check-in services, since that stuff would be in Sense ROMs...but idk. Guess all I've really used were Sense ROMs, so I don't have much of a basis to judge from.
Cell Standby is when you have no service. That is when it's constantly looking for a signal and can't find it. That's why her battery life sucks. In low service areas, when the service goes out, it starts searching for a signal, which eats battery life. I have the same problem at my job, because there's like no service there. Can try putting it in airplane mode in those areas (which makes it use almost 0 battery), or get JuiceDefender (works great OOTB) and use that to only allow sync's every X minutes......
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Cell Standby is when you have no service. That is when it's constantly looking for a signal and can't find it. That's why her battery life sucks. In low service areas, when the service goes out, it starts searching for a signal, which eats battery life. I have the same problem at my job, because there's like no service there. Can try putting it in airplane mode in those areas (which makes it use almost 0 battery), or get JuiceDefender (works great OOTB) and use that to only allow sync's every X minutes......
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Not necessarily no service, but low service as well. I live in an area with low signal in places, and work in metal buildings that really cut my signal down as well.
Well we work is roughly the same area (maybe half a mile apart) and I never have that much usage on Cell Standby. Something is screwy and I am hoping a new Rom and kernel that does some unclocking might help. Maybe starting fresh I can configure it better.
She took it off the charger this morning at 100%. When she gets home I will post her battery level and usage info.
1/2 a mile can be a big deal. I don't know the kind of environment / area you're in, so I can only guess.
You could also try flashing a different radio if you want, too. Heard good luck about that sometimes.
Magnolia ROM. Rock steady; NO issues at all.
Tried and true
It doesn't seem to be getting any more updates but Incredibly Re-Engineered was my go to for speed, stability, and battery life.
re-engineered is a good choice as well.
Originally on my N4 I was rocking straight talk ATT side, my battery life was awesome... Well then I recently switched to T-Mobile monthly 4G (faster speeds) and now even after a couple factory wipes my battery doesn't seem very good. I check what's consuming and Android OS and android system is always in the top 2. I can't seem to get those two programs to calm down. Its not a rogue app, I don't have any apps besides xda installed. I am not rooted just running stock. Has anyone else seen a battery life drop since using T-Mobile, is it that significant? Any advice or tip would be appreciative.
This is really interesting to me. I've read a great deal about the Nexus 4 battery issues but as far as I know they've never been linked to carrier. Of course, I haven't read everything about it and someone might have made a connection along the way, but I haven't come across it.
Do you use the Better Battery Stats app? If so, check the number of msm_hsic_host wakelocks. On a good day, mine hovers around 10-12% of the overall wakelocks (today it's 22%, who knows why). To my knowledge, this is related to the Android OS in the stock battery analysis. I'm on AT&T. This would make me hesitant to jump to T-Mobile when my contract ends in March. Hopefully 4.2.2 fixes the problems regardless, but has anyone else seen worse battery life on T-Mobile than AT&T?
Moved into a new house last year around the same time my phone at the time, the droid maxx, got kit kat....initially thought kitkat killed battery life on the phone and as a result i eventually sold it and got a g2, tried out a couple other phones as well, but they were smaller battery phones, s5, m8, x etc...ended up staying on a g2 until the note 4. The note 4 battery was so bad i thought i had a defective unit and had verizon swap it...same issuse. I then swapped the note 4 for a turbo and im STILL dead by 5pm even with this things massive battery.
Finally occurred to me, its likely my location since it started with the maxx when i moved here.
Called verizon on it suspecting i may be dead center between two towers and the phones are constanrly switching between them, killing the battery quickly. On the phone with them they had me check the mobile data battery bar for breaks, which i hadnt noticed before because the break color is barely different than the non break color, but WOW, CONSTANT BREAKS throughout the bar.
Verizon says they are i"nvestigating", sending an engineer to my location to test etc, but i have little faith in them so thought i would ask here if anyone knows of a way to resolve this bouncing between towers?
Also, put the phone on my tylt charger last night (it was at 8% and I had already fully charged it again mid-day) around midnight, at 7am it had only managed to get 60% charge due to this issue.
Any thoughts, ideas how to resolve? I already use wifi all the time at home, with no effect on battery (as again, it seems to be the bouncing between towers thats killing it, not lte usage).
I'm 100% convinced its a tower bounce causing this, my 4g LTE signal bounces between 95dbm and 108dbm or so...stays on 4g most of the time, but bounces constantly from tower to tower.
Thanks in advance!
Dang, that must be a pretty heavy power draw. My TYLT gives me the illusion of my turbo charged. Seems faster than a normal charger.
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Try downloading LTE discovery from the play store. It's supposed to lock you on a tower when you're not getting signal, and its worked well to do that for me on multiple devices. I don't know if it will lock to a specific tower though, I feel like radio auto-switching would take precedence. I don't know if just turning off LTE would help either.
Anyone else had this problem?
I installed the stock 5.0 update (G900FXXU1BNL9) on my SM-G900F and now the battery life is terrible. I'm lucky if I can get it to last until the end of the day. Today, it's dropped to 50% within 5 hours. Before the lollipop update (again, was on whatever the latest stock version was), my battery life was superb, lasting almost two days!
Anyone know how to resolve this?
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I've had my phone off the charger for less than one hour and I'm already down to 90%. There's definitely something wrong because stock lollipop unroot was giving me much better battery life and performance.
Mine lasts about a day and tbh for a device with the specs of a low end PC with a HD display and constant internet connection thats about what id expect
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Mine lasts about a day and tbh for a device with the specs of a low end PC with a HD display and constant internet connection thats about what id expect
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When your battery lasts less than HALF the time of what it used to all because of one update, something is seriously wrong.
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When your battery lasts less than HALF the time of what it used to all because of one update, something is seriously wrong.
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well mine lasts a day now and it did then. so either you need to factory wipe, or you need to look at apps you've installed thats not quite optimised for lollipop
Yup, factory reset solves battery drain after LP update, I was up to day 3 without charging this morning with still 18% battery left, but had to charge up as I was going out, reckon it would have lasted the rest of the day though
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Yup, factory reset solves battery drain after LP update, I was up to day 3 without charging this morning with still 18% battery left, but had to charge up as I was going out, reckon it would have lasted the rest of the day though
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Got a reply off the Samsung Twitter team to do this, so now going to give it a go. Hopefully it'll sort it because the drain is driving me nuts
Without losing root?
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Without losing root?
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Factory reset will lose root more than likely, almost certainly
It happened with me but after 2 days everything settled and battery lasts at least 12 hours but still less than kitkat.
I installed the update to lollipop..... After that indeed a horrible battery life. So I installed lollipop again using kies software......
Had same experience wipe and reload greatly helped. Supposed to be addressed in 5.1.
To add yet another subjective and anecdotal experience with the new S5 Lollipop update (on Verizon, in my case), I was seeing constant Wi-Fi disconnects (~5/minute) AND battery-life that went from ~15 hours to < 5 hours, until I turned off the "Smart Network Switch". Seems all the network switching was killing the battery as well. Did a FDR and it made no difference. As long as that feature is turned on, my Wi-Fi drops constantly and the phone heats up and the battery dies in a few hours, even without use.
Would be nice to know what I'm missing now that my phone is, apparently, using the Dumb Network Switch instead.
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To add yet another subjective and anecdotal experience with the new S5 Lollipop update (on Verizon, in my case), I was seeing constant Wi-Fi disconnects (~5/minute) AND battery-life that went from ~15 hours to < 5 hours, until I turned off the "Smart Network Switch". Seems all the network switching was killing the battery as well. Did a FDR and it made no difference. As long as that feature is turned on, my Wi-Fi drops constantly and the phone heats up and the battery dies in a few hours, even without use.
Would be nice to know what I'm missing now that my phone is, apparently, using the Dumb Network Switch instead.
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All you're missing now the phone is using the dumb network switch, is bad battery life, constant wifi disconnects, and headaches
I turned it off a while ago, and so have many more people I read about each day - it's supposed to keep you connected to the strongest signal, but in reality, it does the opposite, plus most people only have 1 wifi connection, so it's not necessary to smart switch - and even without it enabled, it will still connect to Data when it goes out of range of WiFi, so that switch is completely pointless to start with
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All you're missing now the phone is using the dumb network switch, is bad battery life, constant wifi disconnects, and headaches
I turned it off a while ago, and so have many more people I read about each day - it's supposed to keep you connected to the strongest signal, but in reality, it does the opposite, plus most people only have 1 wifi connection, so it's not necessary to smart switch - and even without it enabled, it will still connect to Data when it goes out of range of WiFi, so that switch is completely pointless to start with
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Yeah, I kind of figured that. Sadly, I do have two wireless-access-points in my home to handle range-issues. I had not considered that this "feature" would have a bearing on the switching between them. I did test with one of them turned off, so I could eliminate that as a possible cause before I knew about this broken functionality, and it didn't matter of course.
Does it not seem a bit odd that testing didn't uncover that a Lollipop Galaxy S5, with Smart Network turned on, would kill the battery and render the Wi-Fi inoperable?
Oh well.
afh3 said:
Yeah, I kind of figured that. Sadly, I do have two wireless-access-points in my home to handle range-issues. I had not considered that this "feature" would have a bearing on the switching between them. I did test with one of them turned off, so I could eliminate that as a possible cause before I knew about this broken functionality, and it didn't matter of course.
Does it not seem a bit odd that testing didn't uncover that a Lollipop Galaxy S5, with Smart Network turned on, would kill the battery and render the Wi-Fi inoperable?
Oh well.
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You could set up your two APs with the same SSID / Encryption key and have the phone switch seamlessly between them without smart network switch enabled
Some info on how to achieve this here
http://forums.smallnetbuilder.com/showthread.php?t=8893
But yea, it seems that there are quite a few overlooked bugs with lollipop, 5.0.2 and 5.1 apparently address a lot of them, but when we get that update is anyones guess
marv101 said:
Anyone else had this problem?
I installed the stock 5.0 update (G900FXXU1BNL9) on my SM-G900F and now the battery life is terrible. I'm lucky if I can get it to last until the end of the day. Today, it's dropped to 50% within 5 hours. Before the lollipop update (again, was on whatever the latest stock version was), my battery life was superb, lasting almost two days!
Anyone know how to resolve this?
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Wrong section, all questions go in Q&A. Not general.
please note that there are some apps are working without permission like google music i think ,
I recommend you to stay in KitKat until Samsung Lollipop 5.1 firmware arrives. At the moment I'm using XtreStoLite ROM with Toiiki kernel and I'm getting am awesome battery life, about 8 hours of screen on, cheers.
My S5 is G900H and I have the same problem. I did not like lollypop