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It appears that real soon we may have root for locked bootloader devices running Lollipop.
Read here for more info.
zoid_99 said:
It appears that real soon we may have root for locked bootloader devices running Lollipop.
Read here for more info.
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One thing has nothing to do with the other.
Lollipop requires some changes to have root access and that was only possible with a modified kernel.
Now Chainfire managed to root the Lollipop without a custom kernel.
But installing ZIP file of root need a custom recovery , so still need to have the device with unlocked bootloader .
I've done the root Lollipop using this new root method of Chainfire.
Junior Passos said:
One thing has nothing to do with the other.
Lollipop requires some changes to have root access and that was only possible with a modified kernel.
Now Chainfire managed to root the Lollipop without a custom kernel.
But installing ZIP file of root need a custom recovery , so still need to have the device with unlocked bootloader .
I've done the root Lollipop using this new root method of Chainfire.
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If you read the article it appears that there is no need to install a zip in a custom recovery to get root with this method.
" the need for ramdisk modifications was concerning for many users of bootloader-locked devices for which no unlock is available (yes, they do unfortunately exist). The answer to their prayers is now here"
zoid_99 said:
If you read the article it appears that there is no need to install a zip in a custom recovery to get root with this method.
" the need for ramdisk modifications was concerning for many users of bootloader-locked devices for which no unlock is available (yes, they do unfortunately exist). The answer to their prayers is now here"
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Hmmm interesting.
Then the process should be with CF-Auto-Root .
I used one of those before when I first root in Lollipop.
But thought the command "mfastboot boot cf-auto-root.img" only work with unlocked bootloader and not the locked too.
Amazing.
Me excite!
You can only flash signed zips, so this only makes it easier because you dont need a device specific package for rooting
godutch said:
You can only flash signed zips, so this only makes it easier because you dont need a device specific package for rooting
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Translated... Will it work on moto x vzw?
GatorsUF said:
Translated... Will it work on moto x vzw?
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No.
cam30era said:
No.
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OF course
This revelation means that Android 5.0 users*no longer need to run a modified kernel to gain root access via SuperSU (or other root solutions). While not a huge problem on Nexus devices with unlockable bootloaders, the need for ramdisk modifications was concerning for many users of bootloader-locked devices for which no unlock is available (yes, they do unfortunately exist). The answer to their prayers is now here, and we can present an exclusive explanation of the changes needed. At least for now (until/unless Google patch this), it is possible to gain root access and then install and use SuperSU on a stock Android 5.0 device, without any kernel ramdisk tweaking. The reason for this is the need for SuperSU to run a service as root, to allow for unconstrained root access on SELinux-protected devices.
Bump. We need root. Can't believe nobody seems to be working on a workaround. No safestrap? No kexec? No root? What happened to our glorious hackers?
neh4pres said:
Bump. We need root. Can't believe nobody seems to be working on a workaround. No safestrap? No kexec? No root? What happened to our glorious hackers?
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The glorious hackers are/have tried. Security continues to be more and more difficult to break. Jump in the pool and get it done if you want it sooner. Otherwise, buy a pure edition so you can unlock the boot loader
neh4pres said:
Bump. We need root. Can't believe nobody seems to be working on a workaround. No safestrap? No kexec? No root? What happened to our glorious hackers?
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Thanks Motorola -_-
Buy a nexus 6. That's what I did. Still have the moto x for my wife so I can play with it
Can't afford it right now. If I knew programming, you bet I would be working on it. God I hate Verizon, but been here so long it's my cheapest option.
matt99017d said:
The glorious hackers are/have tried. Security continues to be more and more difficult to break. Jump in the pool and get it done if you want it sooner. Otherwise, buy a pure edition so you can unlock the boot loader
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Will the pure edition work on Verizon?
GrandMstrBud said:
Will the pure edition work on Verizon?
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From what I understand, if you pop an activated Verizon SIM card into it, it'll work. Read that it'll work on the unlocked Nexus 6 too.
GreenMunky said:
From what I understand, if you pop an activated Verizon SIM card into it, it'll work. Read that it'll work on the unlocked Nexus 6 too.
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LTE should work but what about CDMA side of it?
GreenMunky said:
From what I understand, if you pop an activated Verizon SIM card into it, it'll work. Read that it'll work on the unlocked Nexus 6 too.
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GrandMstrBud said:
LTE should work but what about CDMA side of it?
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No, CDMA will not work, nor 3G. So you will be confined only to LTE service and Google Voice (or similar).
matt99017d said:
The glorious hackers are/have tried. Security continues to be more and more difficult to break. Jump in the pool and get it done if you want it sooner. Otherwise, buy a pure edition so you can unlock the boot loader
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Looks like your idea will not work and maybe that's the reason for this thread? Pure Edition won't work on VZW
Welp, looks like it's about to be tmo for me!
freeza said:
Welp, looks like it's about to be tmo for me!
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Be good to have ya here homeslice, you need a tester for anything hit me up!
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He will be joining us in 2019
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I am unable to boot into bootloader on ATT model :/
Lol as expected from Sprint and AT&T. Dont get me wrong, i wish they had bootloader unlocked because the more bootloaders unlocked for different carriers, the more chances to duplicate the amount of developments/roma/mosa/kernels etc.... Now, having only Tmobile as the only one with unlocked bootloader, well, devs who use carrier such as AT&T and Sprint might get further away from developments on LG V20. (I'm a LG V20 Tmobile variant owner)
im not to familiar with LG, but the correct way is to power off the device, hold volume down, insert USB cable?
one would think even if locked, it could still enter the bootloader. adb works, and when i reboot recovery, i get to recovery, but when selecting reboot bootloader, the device starts. interestingly enough, it will enter in adb sideload mode
With Google obviously not wanting unlocked handsets or rooted handsets to be common... This kind of thing is going to be the norm. Best to adapt, in the long term. The days of modding are being ended by Google
Skripka said:
With Google obviously not wanting unlocked handsets or rooted handsets to be common... This kind of thing is going to be the norm. Best to adapt, in the long term. The days of modding are being ended by Google
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I would agree if not for the fact that the pixel phones can be unlocked
freeza said:
I would agree if not for the fact that the pixel phones can be unlocked
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For the time being. As SafetyNet gets more common, Google will quit making them unlockable.
Granted i preordered my v20 expecting to run it unrooted stock.
Skripka said:
For the time being. As SafetyNet gets more common, Google will quit making them unlockable.
Granted i preordered my v20 expecting to run it unrooted stock.
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Well, it's really only sprint, at&t, and more than likely Verizon. Fastboot mode doesn't even exist on the phone through the production software. T-Mobile is completely unlockable...
freeza said:
Well, it's really only sprint, at&t, and more than likely Verizon. Fastboot mode doesn't even exist on the phone through the production software. T-Mobile is completely unlockable...
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So this means no recovery for sprint variants, but is there still a possibility of systemless root using the LG up or bridge programs?
rickberg said:
So this means no recovery for sprint variants, but is there still a possibility of systemless root using the LG up or bridge programs?
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I would also like to know this
+1
sjr19 said:
I would also like to know this
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According to twitter there is a root being worked on by chainfire unsure of whether or not it will be for all variants or just unlocked bootloaders
rickberg said:
According to twitter there is a root being worked on by chainfire unsure of whether or not it will be for all variants or just unlocked bootloaders
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T-Mobile is rooted because of bootloader unlock v.v not the other variants.
shadowxaero said:
T-Mobile is rooted because of bootloader unlock v.v not the other variants.
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So the root chainfire has established will be tmobile only?
rickberg said:
According to twitter there is a root being worked on by chainfire unsure of whether or not it will be for all variants or just unlocked bootloaders
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rickberg said:
So the root chainfire has established will be tmobile only?
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He said it was based on jcadduono's work and if jcadduono has a thread on here about getting root shell to push recovery on the TMobile variant after unlocking the bootloader.
time to return it!
Just a thought. A method over use getting around big red in the past . I purchased unlock able version of the the phone I wanted the note 5 . Umocked it rooted it . Then got my carriers Sim card and called to get it activated. It can be a pain but it can be done
shadowxaero said:
T-Mobile is rooted because of bootloader unlock v.v not the other variants.
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I thought since we had the "enable OEM unlock" option like T-Mobile we would be good to go.. smh
I just got this phone (coming from an unlocked rooted VZW S5) and I'm pretty bummed out not seeing any root guides for this specific version (I know Verizon rooting is spotty). Can someone point me in the right direction?
Don't think this will happen, all of the devs basically have Pixels.
Nope. Root most likely will not happen.
Spotty is being optimistic...
benjamminh said:
Spotty is being optimistic...
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I've been able to root all my VZW devices, albeit with complex methods.
karendar said:
Nope. Root most likely will not happen.
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What about using the Dirty Cow exploit? I've heard it can root almost any Android no sweat.
Has anyone tried Sunshine yet?
I've personally tried Dirty Cow, and I have yet to find a binary that doesnt break my device or not work. I have also tried SunShine, and it does not work.
Sirshark10 said:
I've personally tried Dirty Cow, and I have yet to find a binary that doesnt break my device or not work. I have also tried SunShine, and it does not work.
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Damnit
Honestly, I wouldn't hold my breath with Nougat out... Only possibility to me right now would be hoping that Verizon released unlock codes to Moto like they did for previous X devices... But that won't happen for at least a year.
has anyone tried DR.Fone for root yet? on the site it says xt1650 is supported but only 6.0
neckbonest said:
has anyone tried DR.Fone for root yet? on the site it says xt1650 is supported but only 6.0
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No, but I wish I had heard of it before taking the Nougat update
neckbonest said:
has anyone tried DR.Fone for root yet? on the site it says xt1650 is supported but only 6.0
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-WhiteHawk- said:
No, but I wish I had heard of it before taking the Nougat update
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Worth trying anyways right? I'm on Nougat too now but my office is blocking the installer from downloading otherwise I'd try it.
rcguymike said:
Worth trying anyways right? I'm on Nougat too now but my office is blocking the installer from downloading otherwise I'd try it.
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Installing now, but pretty sure it won't work with nougat. Someone should try if they still have MM... There isn't a way to roll back to MM?
**EDIT** Does not work on Z force droid with Nougat.
karendar said:
Installing now, but pretty sure it won't work with nougat. Someone should try if they still have MM... There isn't a way to roll back to MM?
**EDIT** Does not work on Z force droid with Nougat.
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Damn. I don't know of any way to rollback without custom recovery or unless Motorola has an Odin-like utility.
-WhiteHawk- said:
Damn. I don't know of any way to rollback without custom recovery or unless Motorola has an Odin-like utility.
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Motorola's version is called RSD Lite...although I haven't used it since owning my DROIDX and X2. Switched to Samsung for a few years.
rcguymike said:
Motorola's version is called RSD Lite...although I haven't used it since owning my DROIDX and X2. Switched to Samsung for a few years.
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Hmmm.... Might give that a try further down the line. I've also enabled the OEM unlocking setting and I've been wanting to tamper around with that for a bit but I don't know if you can actually unlock and be able to do anything with that because of Verizon.
-WhiteHawk- said:
Hmmm.... Might give that a try further down the line. I've also enabled the OEM unlocking setting and I've been wanting to tamper around with that for a bit but I don't know if you can actually unlock and be able to do anything with that because of Verizon.
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From what I've read that toggle is only a 2ndary safety toggle. You still have to submit to Motorola to get an unlock code and Verizon has forbidden it.
rcguymike said:
From what I've read that toggle is only a 2ndary safety toggle. You still have to submit to Motorola to get an unlock code and Verizon has forbidden it.
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That's what I was worried about. Stingy Verizon.
rcguymike said:
From what I've read that toggle is only a 2ndary safety toggle. You still have to submit to Motorola to get an unlock code and Verizon has forbidden it.
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I've seen a few unlock code generators on the web. Are they worth a try?
I hate Samsung's modified firmware they preload you with. Is it possible to get stock Nougat on this? Thanks.
iamnotexisting said:
I hate Samsung's modified firmware they preload you with. Is it possible to get stock Nougat on this? Thanks.
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Follow the development of Lineage OS.
Spicysteww said:
Follow the development of Lineage OS.
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Ah, unfortunately forgot to mention I have a Snapdragon locked bootloader variant. Too bad. Thanks anyway!
iamnotexisting said:
Ah, unfortunately forgot to mention I have a Snapdragon locked bootloader variant. Too bad. Thanks anyway!
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You could try a "package disabler" type application on the Google play store, never used one myself but it says it disables bloatware without root.
I know... not exactly what you asked for but somewhat useful.
Kind regards.
I want to know if there is still way to do it but in nougat
AmadorSV said:
I want to know if there is still way to do it but in nougat
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Yes but you need to be s-off. And if you're on nougat, only way to get s-off would be for you to mail in your device to the Sunshine team.
You can downgrade to android 6, and use the sunshine apk to gain s-off, and use the tutorial for convert to unlocked version
orlandosuarezm740324 said:
You can downgrade to android 6, and use the sunshine apk to gain s-off, and use the tutorial for convert to unlocked version
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And to downgrade to 6.0 from Nougat, he'd need to be S-off first...
Thanks guys for the answer :/
There is a way to update to oreo?
Tarima said:
And to downgrade to 6.0 from Nougat, he'd need to be S-off first...
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So no way to out? I'm abroad and on noughat ?
tasuku_ said:
There is a way to update to oreo?
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None if you have a Verizon 10, unfortunately. You could still see with the Sunshine team about international shipping.
jazzdglass said:
So no way to out? I'm abroad and on noughat [emoji17]
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Tarima said:
None if you have a Verizon 10, unfortunately. You could still see with the Sunshine team about international shipping.
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Disregard....Requires an Unlocked Bootloader