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Sony Mobile releases comments following ICS v Gingerbread Debate

The Sony Mobile developer team has updated its recent blog post where it discussed the pros and cons of updating the 2011 Xperia range to Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich. It said that the challenges posed by ICS with older hardware has been “addressed by our SW engineering teams”. This includes RAM management optimisation as well as a ‘Performance assistant’ that will launch when the phone starts. This will enable you to enable/disable certain apps to optimise the performance of your Xperia. The developer team reiterated that it is their “aim to deliver an as good ICS update as ever possible”. Sounds good to us. See the full statement below.
Updated – comment from the Developer World team:
We would like to clarify that above mentioned “challenges” have already been addressed by our SW engineering teams. For instance, we have not only optimised the RAM management by making the RAM usage for internal apps as good as possible, but we will also introduce a Performance assistant at start up when running ICS. In this Performance assistant, you can enable and disable certain services that you might not want to run on your phone, in order to optimise the performance of your phone.
We have also worked with quite a few partners in regards to architecture optimisations for SQL handling. In addition, we have also optimised the hardware usage. And as a result of this article, a number of app developers have notified us that they are evaluating if HW optimisation will be needed or not for their apps.
The aim of this article was to share our knowledge regarding the different characteristics for ICS and Gingerbread in an open way, as we strive to have an open communication with the developer community. All in all, we would like to point out that it’s our clear aim to deliver an as good ICS update as ever possible. As you might have seen on the Sony Xperia Product Blog, we’re not far from releasing it now. Thanks for all the feedback!
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http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/04/0...debate/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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That is awesome news !
They are actually working on a fix for 512mb ram phones !
Way to go Sony !

It actually sounds like they'll lets us freeze all the crapware that will probably be installed

CloudShepherd said:
It actually sounds like they'll lets us freeze all the crapware that will probably be installed
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This can be done in ICS already, without root

CloudShepherd said:
It actually sounds like they'll lets us freeze all the crapware that will probably be installed
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if Sony allows us to disable all the stupid crapwares then hopefully we will have a good amount of RAM to play with.

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if Sony allows us to disable all the stupid crapwares then hopefully we will have a good amount of RAM to play with.
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Yeah I know. Cant wait to try the Official Ice Cream Sandwich from SONY on the Xperia Play

When Sony posted that the ram might be a little small for ICS on their blog, almost everyone pointed the finger at them for saying they would give us ICS and then telling us it might not be so good.
I on the other hand, understand. When I bought the device, I was aware of its ram. Its not Sony's fault, they aren't the ones that made ICS a ram hog.
Just be grateful you get ICS, one way or another.
Sent from my R800i using Darkforest ICS

I'm more concerned with the user space being limited. With GB, we can integrate apps and updates into the system rom, which gives us more room on the user partition. I'm hoping something like this is still possible on ICS.

dassub said:
I'm more concerned with the user space being limited. With GB, we can integrate apps and updates into the system rom, which gives us more room on the user partition. I'm hoping something like this is still possible on ICS.
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As long as you have root access, integrating updates shouldn't be an issue

[Q] Just order my Z2 Tablet, need your advice

Hi all, just off the phone from Vodafone and purchased the Sony Z2 Tablet
Comes this Monday.
Just wondering if you guys can give my advise of personal use to weather I have just purchased the best tablet on the market.
I have looked at a few reviews and heard not much bad about this device. I was also wondering if anyone knows if 4.4.4 KitKat will be available in the future for this device.
I am also waiting on the Sony Xperia Z3 mobile coming out to upgrade, best specs i've seen available for a mobile (I know the note4 is pretty awesome specs, but not a big Samsung fan and the screen size is too big for my liking, 5.2 in' is my maximum)
Thanks in advance for your advice guys

Just quickly saw this tablet at local store and it looked pretty nice.
Without any knowledge whether 4.4.4. is coming to z2, i would say that you wont even miss it.
In my opinion 4.4.3 and 4.4.4 brings mostly security updates and not end user updates. But maybe someone can bring some more light into it.
But i think you made a good choice with Z2
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To addition you are already able to upgrade 4.4.4 through custom roms but that is another story

I have been using it almost every day since June, and I couldn't be happier. It works flawlessly, it is powerful, fast and smooth, it has no noticeable bugs, it is easily rooteable and customizable if you want. I don't miss anything in it. I am so glad I got the 32gb model...
Android 4.4.4 is coming, it has been already certified, I would bet in a couple of weeks it will be amongst us, first for the phone, and later for the tablet, but i don't care, as current fw works so well.
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Android 4.4.4 is been rolled out now for old models, apparently it will take a little longer for the z2 as Sony wants to add new features present in the new z3 to the z2 tablet
I have had a lot of phones and tablets in the past but this is my favourite, Sony's UI is great nearly stock but with handy features and looks nice. Its the first tablet where I didn't feel the need to install a custom ROM, plus the battery life is great and apparently may be better in the next update

Oh come on...nearly stock?!
Just because it's not as bloated as Touchwiz doesn't mean it's stock.
Sony also added a lot of bloatware that no one needs and that can not be deinstalled, just deactivated.
Xposed is also a must have for me.

Vaetheran2107 said:
Oh come on...nearly stock?!
Just because it's not as bloated as Touchwiz doesn't mean it's stock.
Sony also added a lot of bloatware that no one needs and that can not be deinstalled, just deactivated.
Xposed is also a must have for me.
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Ya true I do use Nova launcher so I'm probably biased, I actually don't like the Sony launcher, can't change the margins, cant change font, or icon size and it looks a bit like a cartoonist

Also nova, but I meant all of Sony's apps

Vaetheran2107 said:
Oh come on...nearly stock?!
Just because it's not as bloated as Touchwiz doesn't mean it's stock.
Sony also added a lot of bloatware that no one needs and that can not be deinstalled, just deactivated.
Xposed is also a must have for me.
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Er... you can simply root this device and 1. remove the bloatware (via Titanium Backup or a similar app) and 2. install Xposed.
Where is the problem???

Ofc there is some bloatware in this rom.
It is kind of stupid to blame Sony or any other brand for that.
Compared to the mainstream, we at XDA are a real small group of experienceed users,
who don't need that bloat.
But for the mainstream it has to be as easy as possible. So they install all possible needed sony-apps. And to be honest, Sony has to be stupid to stop doing this, cause it's an easy way to support their services and extra hardware like the ps4 or some tvs.
The ordinary user may loose interest upon the first two steps to use a Sony service.
1. Searching and finding the correct app
2. Installing and configure this app.
The working-out-of-the-box-feeling is most important for the mainstream I guess.
And to be honest... Sonys stock rom works perfectly for me and I don't care about the bloat.
Thinking back to my galaxy tab 2 and the laggy "performance" it had with stock... I love Sony
But to get the mainquestion answered.... You made a great deal. The z2 is an awesome tablet and at the moment I don't wanna switch to an other.
But maybe u have to wait a little for a new firmware to get the touchscreen issues fixed.
Or (what I have done) you use flashtool to get the things working with an user-provided stock rom.
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Oh, come on!, bloatware in Android is something of the past. Since 4.1, if i remember well, anybody can disable unwanted system apps, which at all effects is just like deleting them. As these apps are stored in system partition you won't recover free space by disabling them, and if you uninstall them via Titanium Backup, in a rooted device, the freed up space on system partition is useless for installing apps from the store anyway.
Also, as far as i know Sony doesn't include any app which takes too much resources from the system, just their Music/video/games shops, smart connect, some nice image editors, OfficeSuite, Xperia Link, TrackID, Sony Select (the only one i have disabled)... Not a deal breaker to me, they are useful apps, not like Samsung is doing bloating their devices with 2 GB worth of useless apps, constantly poping up with ads.
Oh, and i like Sony's stock launcher more than Google's launcher, i think they are near, buy sony's one looks better and more modern. I never liked the look of pure Android (GB, JB and KK).

You cannot disable all apps unless rooted and even if you disable them, some of them still run in the background and use resources.

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You cannot disable all apps unless rooted and even if you disable them, some of them still run in the background and use resources.
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For example?
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Phone

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Ok, I've got to give my 2 cents here because I think this last post may be the very beginning of a possibly long and unnecessary discussion.
If and only IF you have one of the WiFi-only models and if and only IF those models include the Phone app it can be called bloatware (I don't own one of those models to know if they have the Phone/SMS Messaging/Contacts apps, mine is a 4G one).
But if you own a 4G Z2 Tablet, be that a SGP521, 541 or 551, then you should know that these tablets are phone-capable tablets, i.e. you can actually make phone calls over the standard mobile network, just like a smartphone, and that is meant as a feature, not bloatware.
You can call a bloatware any other apk in Sony's firmware that is not meant to be used as a system feature and there are indeed many of those in Sony's stock ROMs. To name a few that are in the app drawer, you have OfficeSuite, Xperia Link, TrackID, Sony Select, like @RoberM mentioned, just like you have a few of Google's own bloatware, such as Play Games, Play Music, Play Movies, Google+ and Hangout, to name a few. You can even say that AR Effect, Infoeye, Face Unlock and so many others are bloatware. All of these apps have some sort of functionality but they are in no way essential for any of the tablet's features (unlike Phone). Hell, with the exception of Xperia Link, I personally delete each and every one of the apps mentioned in this paragraph with TB (it is actually one the very first things I do after rooting my device).
If you go deeper inside the system you'll also find some bloatware that are not accessible on the app drawer (in other words, you'll have to go deep with Titanium Backup or search for them in Settings -> Applications or delete them directly on system/app or /priv-app folders). To name a few, you have the Wikipedia/lyrics/karaoke extensions (don't really know which app needs them, but I've always deleted them), you have com.android.providers.partnerbookmarks and partnerbookmarks.res.overlay (which add that useless Sony folder on Chrome's Favorites tab) and so on.
The fact of the matter is that all of these apps I've just called bloatware can be disabled without any problem to the OS. But the Phone apk on a phone-capable device is not (the same goes to Contacts or SMS).
And I have to agree with both RoberM and @schurgatzi when they say that 1- arguing about bloatware is a thing of the past when we can easily disable them; 2- mainstream users don't really care or want to care about this things, so for them it is better to have the app and not need it than to need the app and not have (apps they don't need are just put in a folder labeled "useless crap" and left in the last tab of the app drawer); and 3 (and probably most important one)- we on XDA cannot, under any circumstance, think of ourselves as mainstream users - the very fact that we are here having a simple discussion over what is bloatware and what is not, or the simple fact that we spent a few minutes of our time searching on how to get rid of these bloatwares is proof that we are not mainstream users. Mainstream users (and this counts for every-single-body I know) simply don't care about these things (and I honestly think this is the main reason why iPhones are so damn popular and they'll continue to be in the future).
I'm not kidding. The look on my friends' face (some of which I know for more than 10 years) when one of them couldn't remember his WiFi password and I found it by opening the wpa_supplicant.conf file on the data/misc/wifi folder was absolutely priceless (the geek inside of me rejoiced for a while).

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Are you calling "Phone app" bloatware in a calling capable device?, or are you saying that you can disable "Phone app" in settings menu but it still uses resources?. Anyway... Good for you!:good:

RoberM said:
Are you calling "Phone app" bloatware in a calling capable device?, or are you saying that you can disable "Phone app" in settings menu but it still uses resources?. Anyway... Good for you!:good:
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Both. For me.
I don't know why you're being such a d!ck about this. I offered some helpful, constructive information into this thread as a further explanation why some people (including me) may want to root. If you don't want to root your device, I won't attack you about it. Most users here will not have the LTE version of this tablet and will have no need for the phone module that runs (even if you root and disable it) all the time. If there is a feature that is installed on a device that I will never use: it is bloatware to me, even if it isn't bloatware to everyone. I have my own method of removing about half of the stock apps on this device because I personally don't use them.
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Ok, I've got to give my 2 cents here because I think this last post may be the very beginning of a possibly long and unnecessary discussion.
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I'm not kidding. The look on my friends' face (some of which I know for more than 10 years) when one of them couldn't remember his WiFi password and I found it by opening the wpa_supplicant.conf file on the data/misc/wifi folder was absolutely priceless (the geek inside of me rejoiced for a while).
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Unfortunately, I didn't notice this post until I posted my rant. But I agree that it's not worth getting into a flamewar about bloatware!
But the reason I'm not replying is because WOW! I can't believe that file isn't encrypted! Considering that android is basically Linux (which I have a lot of experience of and always assumed it was totally secure) I always assumed that all OS's would encrypt this and hide it away from the user. It lead me on quite an interesting search to see how Linux and Windows hide/secure them. Basically, they don't! It's scary to see how easy it is for anyone with a bootdisk and physical access to a device can gain access to your wifi network.
Thanks for leading me to learn something new today! :good: (I know that sounded kinda sarcastic, but it honestly wasn't).

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Unfortunately, I didn't notice this post until I posted my rant. But I agree that it's not worth getting into a flamewar about bloatware!
But the reason I'm not replying is because WOW! I can't believe that file isn't encrypted! Considering that android is basically Linux (which I have a lot of experience of and always assumed it was totally secure) I always assumed that all OS's would encrypt this and hide it away from the user. It lead me on quite an interesting search to see how Linux and Windows hide/secure them. Basically, they don't! It's scary to see how easy it is for anyone with a bootdisk and physical access to a device can gain access to your wifi network.
Thanks for leading me to learn something new today! :good: (I know that sounded kinda sarcastic, but it honestly wasn't).
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Hehehehehe the very same thing I thought the first time I learned that. One would normally think this kind of data would be secure somehow (encrypted to say the least) due to its sensitive status. And this is not Android, Windows or Linux's, it's all of them... They basically don't protect WiFi passwords at all. And I'm glad I could share some knowledge today

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Hehehehehe the very same thing I thought the first time I learned that. One would normally think this kind of data would be secure somehow (encrypted to say the least) due to its sensitive status. And this is not Android, Windows or Linux's, it's all of them... They basically don't protect WiFi passwords at all. And I'm glad I could share some knowledge today
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LOL. Although, I work at a school where we have a Windows domain and all the laptops run Windows 7 and they've been set using active directory policy so you can't view the password just by clicking the "show password" button, even for me as a domain admin I can't do it. I'm gonna try one of the wifi key viewer apps tomorrow and see if the file/registry entry is encrypted or not.

[DISCUSSION] Android M for Bacon!

So as some of you may or may not know tomorrow is Google I/O. And like last year Google will be announcing Android M. It will also most likely release an "M Preview" for the Nexus 6 and 9. Do you guys think it would be possible to port the M Preview from the Nexus 6 to OnePlus One. Also this thread is for everything related to Android M for the OnePlus One

Do you remember situation with Lollipop? I think it will be in the same way

It may be possible, though unlikely. It's just not really worth it. Too many bugs and instability. This time around I'll be looking forward to ports for the nexus 5. As I think it won't get Dev preview
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Android M Developer Preview will be available today for Nexus phones. How long until someone makes port to Bacon, or how long until we see first ROM:? :fingers-crossed:

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http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...ages-are-live-now-for-nexus-5-6-9-and-player/
Here they go!

Guess it would be pretty sweet to get a little blend of a ROM with the cherry pickins from the Android M preview.

I think we will get the android m port when Google releases the sources of it.

Liking the new Google photos app, seems pretty slick and great that they detached it from Google+. Seems like they've refined Lollipop a bit and added some decent features. I've seen theres an option for dark theme built in now, maybe not as big a deal to us as we have total theme/customisation control, but the Nexus 6 users are going to appreciate that with their amoled display. Interested to see the app permission/privacy thing in a bit more detail as well. They sorted the volume control (mostly) with an expandable panel although is silent mode still missing?

Android M comes with App Permissions which is slick! Doze mode sounds cool but it doesn't seem to work with Google Play Services

If anyone is interested, the new google camera, search app and play services from the M-preview are already available on apkmirror (haven't tried them, son don't shoot me if they don't work).

Is it me, or is M just a slight update to lollipop?.. Why M and not 5.2?.. Most of the "features" are apps, not the OS.. The OS only got a few changes and is still virtually Lollipop.. I'm happy for the update, but, I had higher hopes for a full "version" jump..
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fmc000 said:
If anyone is interested, the new google camera, search app and play services from the M-preview are already available on apkmirror (haven't tried them, son don't shoot me if they don't work).
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I've tried them - DO NOT INSTALL !
First, you have to manually uninstall existing apps (uninstall updates, disable the built-in apps, reboot device). This allows installation of the new packages.
Second, the device will NOT boot - the new GMS triggers a crash in ProcessManager which brings down the whole system - you will probably have to re-flash the entire shebang.

ddalex said:
I've tried them - DO NOT INSTALL !
First, you have to manually uninstall existing apps (uninstall updates, disable the built-in apps, reboot device). This allows installation of the new packages.
Second, the device will NOT boot - the new GMS triggers a crash in ProcessManager which brings down the whole system - you will probably have to re-flash the entire shebang.
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Google app is working fine and Google Camera crashes on Panorama. that's all I've found atm.
So just GMS must be avoided. Also, for me apps installed just fine w/o uninstalling/rebooting

You guys should explain if these apks replace system apps or Google apps from play store

nezlobnyj said:
Google Camera crashes on Panorama.
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That's expected as you need a system lib to use the feature and installing google camera as a user app does not provide that.

It is clearly not possible to port this over. Our device uses heavy caf optimizations in kernel and framework (includes CM and Oxygen). Simply using the frameworks and app core from m will always result in a not booting device. We will have to wait for the source to be published.

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It is clearly not possible to port this over. Our device uses heavy caf optimizations in kernel and framework (includes CM and Oxygen). Simply using the frameworks and app core from m will always result in a not booting device. We will have to wait for the source to be published.
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Never say it's not possible! With coding everything is possible.

raafaell said:
Never say it's not possible! With coding everything is possible.
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it is NOT possible at all!
we need to wait for opensourced code from google to start working.

Calm down a bit my friends. The image had just been released, so it is a matter of time for it to be available for bacon. Be patient, the time will come and enjoy android 5.1.1 first.. Chill
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i would like an android M version of Cyangonmod or maybe direct port of android M from google with a Cyangodemod recovery

When is Android 6.0 Marshmallow coming to the Nvidia Shield TV?

When is Android 6.0 Marshmallow coming to the Nvidia Shield TV? Nvidia is planning to upgrade all of us, right?

It's coming, as to when, well, your guess is as good as anybody's. I tweeted @NvidiaShield and the response was "you know we always have something cooking". Im looking forward to using external sd as internal. Other than that I don't know what else there really is to look forward to with it.

sooooon

I'm so excited for it !

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I'm so excited for it !
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Why?
Not trolling, genuinely curious. Since Shield TV is a "set top" box, things like Doze, battery savings, On Tap, really wouldn't matter.

Meanee said:
Why?
Not trolling, genuinely curious. Since Shield TV is a "set top" box, things like Doze, battery savings, On Tap, really wouldn't matter.
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Probably for the support of external memory being used as internal.

I can't wait for marshmallow too! I've been searching for ways to move apps 100% to the microSD card but so far nothing works!
I've tried all the apps 2 sd apps on Google Play and I even tried this:
XInternalSD
This module changes value (path to internal SD card) in some Android APIs which apps use. Control this path in module's settings. You can enable this module for all apps or only for specific apps. Also you can enable full access to external SD card (for KitKat+)
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.pyler.xinternalsd

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I can't wait for marshmallow too! I've been searching for ways to move apps 100% to the microSD card but so far nothing works!
I've tried all the apps 2 sd apps on Google Play and I even tried this:
XInternalSD
This module changes value (path to internal SD card) in some Android APIs which apps use. Control this path in module's settings. You can enable this module for all apps or only for specific apps. Also you can enable full access to external SD card (for KitKat+)
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I made a post here on Xda explaining how to have apps to external USB hdd if that's any help to you it's in the general section for the shield

Believe me, you won't be happy with marshmallow's sdcard adoption implementation. I don't care if this thing gets marshmallow lol. It runs everything perfect as it is right now. How about some goddamn top tier games tho, nvidia?!

beefy143 said:
I made a post here on Xda explaining how to have apps to external USB hdd if that's any help to you it's in the general section for the shield
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Link, please?

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Link, please?
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Video: NVIDIA Demos Android 6.0 Marshmallow on the SHIELD TV
NVIDIA has said the update will be available later this month, but no firm date has been announced just yet.
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new info:
Special Delivery: Android 6.0 Marshmallow, New Games and More Coming to SHIELD

Gilbot said:
Believe me, you won't be happy with marshmallow's sdcard adoption implementation. I don't care if this thing gets marshmallow lol. It runs everything perfect as it is right now. How about some goddamn top tier games tho, nvidia?!
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What do you mean?
Sounds like it's going to work very well!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtPGPBN5PJQ

New version will also bring you a lot of problem. It is just a TV, the current system is good enough for me.

[email protected] said:
New version will also bring you a lot of problem. It is just a TV, the current system is good enough for me.
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Based on what? That's like saying, "If you go outside, you're just going to die".
Some people just "talk" to hear themselves "talk".
There might be bugs/issues when it comes out, but overall newer versions tend to bring new features. More importantly, security patches are usually in newer versions too.

Sorry but he has a point. Still today I don't understand the need for new OS versions every 6 months. New OS will bring new features but also new bugs to be corrected. It's not like google makes HW specific OS. For example Minix already said they won't upgrade their Android base because they have a very stable, bug free SW and do not want to risk having to solve lots of bugs. Then again no one forces you to update, simply don't click the button
Nevertheless he has some point and they should focus on contacting app developers to support the Android TV a bit more because the amount of supported apps is just ridiculous in my opinion, specially considering the tremendous potential of Shield's HW.

Grippen50 said:
Sorry but he has a point. Still today I don't understand the need for new OS versions every 6 months. New OS will bring new features but also new bugs to be corrected. It's not like google makes HW specific OS. For example Minix already said they won't upgrade their Android base because they have a very stable, bug free SW and do not want to risk having to solve lots of bugs. Then again no one forces you to update, simply don't click the button
Nevertheless he has some point and they should focus on contacting app developers to support the Android TV a bit more because the amount of supported apps is just ridiculous in my opinion, specially considering the tremendous potential of Shield's HW.
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I shockingly found myself gently forced to update by Nvidia. The update popup appears annoyingly frequently and that was the main reason why I updated from V1.3 to V1.4. I do like updates I just didn't want to go through the hassle of re-rooting.

is there any news for new update? thanks

o0vash0o said:
is there any news for new update? thanks
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Nope. They will release it when it's ready. It makes no sense to rush a ROM deployment if it doesn't bring anything new over the past release and if it's not as stable. If they would do such a thing, the discussion over this board will turn into "Why doesn't nVidia care about their users and release crappy updates!!??!! Let's boycott [email protected]"!"!"

MIUI Update 7.2.23 Review

Here is a quick review of the new MIUI update. Another useless update from Xiaomi. We have some new so called features in the ROM which we are gonna discuss.
1. The calculator [Discount Feature]
First of all, this thing is mathematically incorrect. Secondly, you just eliminated use of 1 or 2 button and called it an update. Also, when you go to a shop and there's a discount then you can ask the shopkeeper what will be the actual price instead of taking out your phone doing useless stuff and being looked at.
The normal procedure is this:
10000 - 10000*15%
and now it is:
10000 - 15%
Just look at it and tell me which one looks more convincing. And please tell me what are the situations in which I would use this feature, like I am dying or something so that I need to do a quick calculation? I am already wasting my time on shopping and if I waste few seconds on typing some extra numbers, it won't matter.
Preferable Features to be added in calculator:
->Just look at any Casio scientific calculator and implement those features, like:
->Graphing function
->the 'Ans' key feature - do you know this feature? with this you can summon the last answer whenever you want, just look at any Casio scientific calculator, this feature is damn useful ask anyone.
->Integration, differentiation, etc
2. Redesigned Music App
Not for global user, but looking at it even if it were for global user, I won't call it an update, because first of all it looks as cartoonish as before, the app isn't even good looking. I won't open that thing in public place because I don't want to be ridiculed at. I have heard that the Chinese version of the app has online music feature, if that's true then the feature is great but the design, i just don't like it.
Redesign of music app isn't called an update, but this is Xiaomi. So, even if you change an app's icon, it can be called an update.
3. Mi Finance
Again it's not for global user and even if it were, I won't call few bug fixes and changes in a companion app of MIUI an update to the system.
Verdict:
Yet another waste of 1 GB of your data, I don't recommend applying it. There are no bug fixes, just useless stuff. Tell us in the poll would you apply this update?

Well for MIUI progress you should head over to their community.
Btw... You could simple calculate 10000*0,85 ?
For me I don't care about these minor updates... And 1gb? I don't care either.

This is why I wiped off MIUI and moved to LineageOS.

MIUI beta updates are joke.

they could just give app update via store rather than giving rom update.
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h0LLe said:
Well for MIUI progress you should head over to their community.
Btw... You could simple calculate 10000*0,85
For me I don't care about these minor updates... And 1gb? I don't care either.
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Exactly! we waste 1GB of data for that useless stuff