internal storage is less than it hould be.... - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hi guy, it's been a while since my last conection... i've bought a new brand huawei nexus 6p and im really happy about it... the thing is, i have bought a 64gb nexus and when i check on starage it say (for example) 50gb available of 54... hows that possible? i'll add some pics in a while
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First of all whatever drive (USB thumb, hard drive, etc.) you will buy you have less then what advertize. Second. You have Android OS taking space on your 64gb.

therock3181 said:
First of all whatever drive (USB thumb, hard drive, etc.) you will buy you have less then what advertize. Second. You have Android OS taking space on your 64gb.
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yrs, i know that... but, 10gb? android? it aosp, its not samsung....

Tinchoska said:
yrs, i know that... but, 10gb? android? it aosp, its not samsung....
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That's about standard formatting on not only USB drives, but regular hard drives. You never get the full advertised storage.

Tinchoska said:
yrs, i know that... but, 10gb? android? it aosp, its not samsung....
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It's the same for me, so there must be a lot of junk on board. Most of the Google apps are installed. In custom ROMs, you decide how many.

Tinchoska said:
yrs, i know that... but, 10gb? android? it aosp, its not samsung....
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After formatting you get around 59gb. With Android OS and your apps installed you roughly have 5gb used. So yes 10gb. Thats what mine is.
Nothing you can really do about it..

therock3181 said:
After formatting you get around 59gb. With Android OS and your apps installed you roughly have 5gb used. So yes 10gb. Thats what mine is.
Nothing you can really do about it..
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WTF?! sorry i am surprise about that 10gb... i thought it was something related to sammy and its launcher.... but as you said you have this too... so, theres nathing else to talk....
thanks guys!!!!!!!!!!!

32GB Version of Nexus 6P here and inside Marshmallow MTC20F using my a common file manager, I have access to a maximum 25.01 GB storage.
Just informing you! But yea it will be really waste of precious time to try free some GB, even if a way can exist.
It is normal, lets say it is normal. It is 10 whole GB throught ... Duh impossible to explain, do you run 7.1 and the size of OS is that huge?

Pipiou211 said:
32GB Version of Nexus 6P here and inside Marshmallow MTC20F using my a common file manager, I have access to a maximum 25.01 GB storage.
Just informing you! But yea it will be really waste of precious time to try free some GB, even if a way can exist.
It is normal, lets say it is normal. It is 10 whole GB throught ... Duh impossible to explain, do you run 7.1 and the size of OS is that huge?
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im runnng 7.0 and the hole folder size is (decompress) 1,18gb ... its weird, a friend of mine has a 32gb6p and he has 30gb free space to use...

Lol that's nothing new I have a 128gb and 111.1gb is free.

Now on 7.1.1 it's on 58.3.... I can't believe how much Android takes...
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Let's take a deep breath and all say the following:
OK Google! Hahah

Yawn... Another one of these threads.
The OS has to go someplace..

Hello guys,
The Android system itself does not occupy 10 GB. The answer you are looking for is that the storage capacity advertised is in Gigabytes (base 1000), whereas the storage capacity reported by the phone is in Gibibytes (base 1024).
So there you have it:
32 GB = 29,8023 GiB
64 GB = 59,6046 GiB
128 GB = 119,209 GiB
Also, please keep in mind that this is the total flash drive storage. However, your phone has many partitions (boot, recovery, system, userdata, etc.) and each one of them occupies space. What you see is the "userdata" partition size.

errikosd said:
Hello guys,
The Android system itself does not occupy 10 GB. The answer you are looking for is that the storage capacity advertised is in Gigabytes (base 1000), whereas the storage capacity reported by the phone is in Gibibytes (base 1024).
So there you have it:
32 GB = 29,8023 GiB
64 GB = 59,6046 GiB
128 GB = 119,209 GiB
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Here's something new I can tell while drinking my coffee :silly:

errikosd said:
Hello guys,
The Android system itself does not occupy 10 GB. The answer you are looking for is that the storage capacity advertised is in Gigabytes (base 1000), whereas the storage capacity reported by the phone is in Gibibytes (base 1024).
So there you have it:
32 GB = 29,8023 GiB
64 GB = 59,6046 GiB
128 GB = 119,209 GiB
Also, please keep in mind that this is the total flash drive storage. However, your phone has many partitions (boot, recovery, system, userdata, etc.) and each one of them occupies space. What you see is the "userdata" partition size.
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This applies to pretty much all storage devices (hard drive, thumb drive, etc) being sold on the market. Advertised to the public in decimal but represented in binary in the system.

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2GB Ultra II microSD

Hi I just brought a 2GB Ultra II MicroSD card after installing the card into the Tytn it shows up as 1.8GB i've lost 2GB any suggestions.
Thanks
use a card reader and format it to FAT32 (fat16 or fat cannot read past 1 gig)
max2ict said:
Hi I just brought a 2GB Ultra II MicroSD card after installing the card into the Tytn it shows up as 1.8GB i've lost 2GB any suggestions.
Thanks
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Since the reading is 1.8GB you appear to lose .2GB. BUT there are two ways to measure a "Byte"
This site summarises the issue nicely and you can rest assured you are not losing anything!
http://www.techlore.com/article/113.../;jsessionid=D30A2F90AD947CE0F99E86CF621CF58F
Mike
Where did you get it? I have been looking for one....
ratcom;1145042 said:
use a card reader and format it to FAT32 (fat16 or fat cannot read past 1 gig)
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Is that correct?
I'm pretty sure that Fat (Fat16) is able to read up to 2GB. It's if, and when we move to 4GB that Fat32 is necessary.
berdinkerdickle said:
Is that correct?
I'm pretty sure that Fat (Fat16) is able to read up to 2GB. It's if, and when we move to 4GB that Fat32 is necessary.
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You are right:
Wikipedia does a nice table on both file size limits and volume size limits:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Allocation_Table
Mike
a 2gb card will always show up as 1.8gb.. they read 1k bytes as a megabyte instead of 1.2k bytes which is how everyone else measures.. So you really do have a "2" gb card(the way they see it) but on the phone and your computer, it's only 1.8gb
Blue Puma said:
Where did you get it? I have been looking for one....
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Hi I brought it from my local computer fair for £30, its a very fast card, I've just formated it using Fat32, and its working better than before. My reason for buying a 2Gb card is when I play music for more than an hour using a 1GB card the Tytn freezes, so I thought if it has more memory to paly with then it will not freeze.
I could be wrong, i'll let you know after the test.
I've just discoverd that under sync on windows media player you can format the micro card directly on the Tytn
Thanks for all your help
MilanoRex said:
a 2gb card will always show up as 1.8gb.. they read 1k bytes as a megabyte instead of 1.2k bytes which is how everyone else measures.. So you really do have a "2" gb card(the way they see it) but on the phone and your computer, it's only 1.8gb
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You're on the right track, but to be more clear and specific:
memorys and harddrives etc. are announced as binary bits for some reason, in this case 2 000 000 000 bits.
For example 1kb is kilo bits because it is based on the metric system and a metric "kilo" is 1000,
but the real space is measured in bytes. And 1kB is 1024 bits. (Not 1.2k which is 1200)
So the 2Gb (bits) is in bytes about 1.86GB.
You divide 2*10^9 with kilobytes (1024) three times.
data is normally measured in binary code, the prefixes for the multiples are based on the metric system.
And the nearest binary number to 1000 is 2^10 or 1024. That's why 1024 bytes was named a kilobyte. (notice difference between bit and byte.)
Blue Puma said:
Where did you get it? I have been looking for one....
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Here for example:
http://www.mobymemory.com/SanDisk_T...ER=GA_TFLASH?gclid=CLf8mvGZyIoCFSIfEAod3HU7dA
Mike
mikechannon said:
Here for example:
http://www.mobymemory.com/SanDisk_T...ER=GA_TFLASH?gclid=CLf8mvGZyIoCFSIfEAod3HU7dA
Mike
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that doesnt answer his question or the same question i was just thinking lol.
the Ultra II micro card that exists i thought was a 1gb. atleast, a real one. the rest are just fake ones people have made that say 2gb ultra II on the outside but really are just a normal speed card.
even on the SD website it doesnt show Ultra II 2gb micro cards yet.
hav u guys found a link to a real Ultra II micro sd card (besides ebay lol)
mikeeey said:
that doesnt answer his question or the same question i was just thinking lol.
the Ultra II micro card that exists i thought was a 1gb. atleast, a real one. the rest are just fake ones people have made that say 2gb ultra II on the outside but really are just a normal speed card.
even on the SD website it doesnt show Ultra II 2gb micro cards yet.
hav u guys found a link to a real Ultra II micro sd card (besides ebay lol)
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Now... you are not suggesting that Moby memory, that I have dealt with for years are selling the 2gb ultra II under false pretences are you?? LOL
I mean here is another top line company with the same thing:
http://www.jessops.com/Store/s48051...ltra-II-Memory-Card-(Transflash)/details.aspx
or here
http://www.shop-com.co.uk/op/~2GB_m...m_Sandisk-prod-41340094-54861516?sourceid=309
or here
http://www.tecno.co.uk/Store/s48052...ltra-II-Memory-Card-(Transflash)/details.aspx
or here
http://www.memoryking.com/mall/productpage.cfm/MemoryKing/SDSDQU-2048-E10/87875
They are everywhere.
Mike
Could someone advise what the best settings are for a ScanDisk 2gb standard microSD?
-Which FAT?
-Which clusters' size?
Unless you are not overly concerned about wasted space then avoid FAT (AKA FAT 12), FAT 16 and go for FAT 32 with its greater number of sectors of a smaller size = less wasted space. Sector size between 0.5 and 4kb should be fine - you decide balance of speed against performance.
Mike
Prerna said:
Could someone advise what the best settings are for a ScanDisk 2gb standard microSD?
-Which FAT?
-Which clusters' size?
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I used Fat32 on a ultra II card
Nice of you, thanks!
mikechannon said:
Now... you are not suggesting that Moby memory, that I have dealt with for years are selling the 2gb ultra II under false pretences are you?? LOL
I mean here is another top line company with the same thing:
http://www.jessops.com/Store/s48051...ltra-II-Memory-Card-(Transflash)/details.aspx
or here
http://www.shop-com.co.uk/op/~2GB_m...m_Sandisk-prod-41340094-54861516?sourceid=309
or here
http://www.tecno.co.uk/Store/s48052...ltra-II-Memory-Card-(Transflash)/details.aspx
or here
http://www.memoryking.com/mall/productpage.cfm/MemoryKing/SDSDQU-2048-E10/87875
They are everywhere.
Mike
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hm, then why arent they even at SD's website? that doestn make sense at all lol.
i wonder when il start seeing them beign sold in the store. the best ive seen locally is just a normal 2gb. not even ultra II
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hm, then why arent they even at SD's website? that doestn make sense at all lol.
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What's the breakdown of the 16GB of memory?

Is it 8GB for os + apps and 8GB for media? Or maybe a new file system with Gingerbread that does not allow USB mass storage but all 16GB for os + apps + media?
It's most likely 1-2gb for apps and the rest for /sdcard/ this is how the Vibrant is.
You'll never fill up 2gb worth of apps...
So we are probably looking at roughly 14gb of available data stock? That's not that bad after all, most people are dealing with a 16gb microSD anyways. At least this will be faster... they should have made it 32gb or at least have the option... my heart is broken to have no removable storage (almost a deal-breaker)
It's not too terrible honestly. It's fully accessible when plugged into a PC. It's simply an internal SD card... Just copy the files off if you want them moved. No huge deal imho. Not that I wouldn't have preferred it to be external (bought a new 16GB class 4 for nothing)
Anderdroid said:
It's most likely 1-2gb for apps and the rest for /sdcard/ this is how the Vibrant is.
You'll never fill up 2gb worth of apps...
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Developers cite the lack of app memory as a reason why they don't port games to Android. I'm disappointed Google hasn't addressed this issue yet beyond Apps2SD, which only moves part of programs.
As a comparison, on my late iPhone 3G, I filled up 2GB in apps in a couple hours. Myst alone was around 700-800MB.
Pete2s said:
Developers cite the lack of app memory as a reason why they don't port games to Android. I'm disappointed Google hasn't addressed this issue yet beyond Apps2SD, which only moves part of programs.
As a comparison, on my late iPhone 3G, I filled up 2GB in apps in a couple hours. Myst alone was around 700-800MB.
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Err what? That's the point of the SD Cards. It is very easy for an game to download it's resources onto the SD Card... I own an iPad. Android and iPad do things differently. Both approaches work.
The Nexus S actually has two flash parts -- 512MB of onenand and 16GB emmc. The onenand hosts the bootloader, kernel/ramdisk, radio firmware, and the cache partition (yaffs2). The emmc part hosts /system (ext4), /data (ext4), and /sdcard (vfat).
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I believe the /data partition which holds the apps(AFAIK) is about 1 GB from the screenshots.
very disappointing that over a year after the moto droid launches, we have moved to internal storage (which should give more room for more memory) and we are still stuck at 16gb
The galaxy S line works like this:
2GB /Data partition for apps
13GB /sdcard partition that acts exactly like an SD card.
The extra missing 1GB is most likely the system storage.
The storage for app is about 1GB. See screenshot from Engadget :
http://www.engadget.com/photos/google-nexus-s-hands-on/#3644046
See screenshot no. 45.
There you go, happy?
I think I am fine with it. Right now I am using HTC Desire with its pathetic 40MB storage for app. So, 1GB is a huge upgrade for me
Check Engadget, they explain that apps can be placed in the internal extra space to substitute for the lack of SD card, still not great but at least you know Google knew this would be an issue, and fixed it. Honestly, the market is full of great 3d games, if I were to download all of the great 3d games in the market, I would still have enough space on the device for my 5 gigs of music, they don't take that much space.
Well not only you lose external SD you also lose 1GB of internal application storage
GalaxyS has 2GB free of application storage
Nexus S only has 1GB
Seriously dont get all these cut backs
BTW the 13GB is same on both phones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IegTiCa6RTQ
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Honestly, I would like it customizable. Like in a OS on a PC you can resize partitions with relative freedom. I would like to delegate what I want to app storage and general storage.
saint327 said:
Honestly, I would like it customizable. Like in a OS on a PC you can resize partitions with relative freedom. I would like to delegate what I want to app storage and general storage.
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You use to be able to do that on windows mobile back in the day
demo23019 said:
You use to be able to do that on windows mobile back in the day
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You can on the hero CDMA with firerat's mod
demo23019 said:
Well not only you lose external SD you also lose 1GB of internal application storage
GalaxyS has 2GB free of application storage
Nexus S only has 1GB
Seriously dont get all these cut backs
BTW the 13GB is same on both phones
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IegTiCa6RTQ
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would of rather the 2GB to be on the safe side, but 5 times the space of the nexus one sounds pretty damn good to me.

[All Carriers] Internal Storage Partitioning

EDIT (2012-06-27):Great news! Android Central was wrong and internal storage does not appear to be partitioned! Although it's strange that it's not closer to 28GB. Thanks to aznmode for posting the first screenshot in another thread.
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just got mine woot. Heres the memory. I guess its not split?
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To those of you with the 16GB phone in hand, could you post a screenshot of the Storage screen? Androidcentral's review of the 32GB model says that the 32GB is partitioned into 12GB of "phone storage" (for apps) and 12GB of "internal sd". I was all set with getting the 32GB version, but this has now given me pause. Can it be re-partitioned to be one single large partition for apps? If not, I would just go for the 16GB version (assuming it has similar amount of space for apps) and spend the $50-saved on a 32GB MicroSD card.
Yea it is a buzz kill on 32g it saves 12 to USB storage and 12 to internal sd card im getting the 16 gb
Any chance the Dev's will come up with something that will allow us to change this?
tarpon6 said:
Any chance the Dev's will come up with something that will allow us to change this?
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I would think so. The guys in the Nook Tablet forum provided a way to repartition that thing from it's miniscule 1GB of user space.
12 + 12 = 24. Where is that last 8GB? O/S reserved space or something?
Sleestax said:
12 + 12 = 24. Where is that last 8GB? O/S reserved space or something?
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I would think so, but that sounds high
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I would think so, but that sounds high
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I think so too, but if it is, then the 16GB crowd will only have 8GB divided between apps and data (before adding a micro SDHC card), that blows.
Totally sucks on the 32gb version which I switched to and ended up waiting longer for. I do hope there is a way to repartition them to one.
This is where I'm at now. Just a few essential apps and a few pics. Haven't put me sd card in yet
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Thanks tkemack! Seems like without re-partitioning, both 16GB-models and 32GB-models will run out of app space at the same time. That's assuming that Android Central really does have the 32GB version...
Sleestax said:
12 + 12 = 24. Where is that last 8GB? O/S reserved space or something?
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I was expecting the 32GB version to have 28GB (12GB+16GB) in a single partition. There's really no reason not to have exactly 16GB more than the 16GB-model. I guess we'll see next week when people get the 32GB-model in hand. Hopefully someone will post a screenshot in this thread.
ken830 said:
I was expecting the 32GB version to have 28GB (12GB+16GB) in a single partition. There's really no reason not to have exactly 16GB more than the 16GB-model. I guess we'll see next week when people get the 32GB-model in hand. Hopefully someone will post a screenshot in this thread.
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I'm hoping the website is wrong as I see no point to partitioning it. Isn't the GNex on Sprint 32GB? Maybe someone who has one of those can shed some light on if theirs is partitioned.
is this something we errrrrrr (the devs) can change ?
This makes me glad I got the 16gb! I was having a hard time deciding, but I figured I could just throw in a 32gb sd card if I start to run out of space. I doubt I'll actually use 16gb just for apps.
CapsLockKey said:
I'm hoping the website is wrong as I see no point to partitioning it. Isn't the GNex on Sprint 32GB? Maybe someone who has one of those can shed some light on if theirs is partitioned.
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Yeah... Epix4G posted a screenshot of the Galaxy Nexus in another thread showing a single large partition.
Now that people are taking delivery of the 32GB-model, could someone post a screenshot of the Storage screen?
aznmode said:
just got mine woot. Heres the memory. I guess its not split?
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Deep Grey or White Color the best?

I am Confused and hesitant which color to purchase, I saw the white version in shops here cause it's only the color available till now, but don't like it's interfere with silver bezel, deep grey in youtube looking gorgeous but not see it in my hand and want to take one online, for those who has available in there country, is grey looking better ?
lol where's the option of 32 gb wifi only white in the poll?
omnia1994 said:
lol where's the option of 32 gb wifi only white in the poll?
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Samsung Announced that there are only Deep Grey Version for 32 GB Storage device:laugh:
Check the beginning of this video
http://support-us.samsung.com/spsn/detail.jsp?ctg_id=1280&sub_ctg_id=&live_id=&video_id=1785174479001
White will make ur device looks 'big'.
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wmka2000 said:
Samsung Announced that there are only Deep Grey Version for 32 GB Storage device:laugh:
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Therefore, Deep Grey is the best.
And, for those of us with Unlimited Data on our rooted phones, WiFi only is best.
I like the white 16gb. Just pop in a 64/32GB memory card and your good to go
A grey, 32gig with a 64gig card in it (like mine, for example ) is even gooder to go. And, really, compared to other tablets, an extra 16gig internal for $50 is a bargain.
Plus, don't forget that without rooting, you can only install apps to the internal memory, so 16gig could become a problem.
stuartv said:
A grey, 32gig with a 64gig card in it (like mine, for example ) is even gooder to go. And, really, compared to other tablets, an extra 16gig internal for $50 is a bargain.
Plus, don't forget that without rooting, you can only install apps to the internal memory, so 16gig could become a problem.
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I love the white color to it though. If white had came in a 32gb I would have been all over it. i Guess the limited storage space is a sacrifice I'll have to make. If I find it becomes a problem I might consider exchanging for a grey 32g
Newegg is selling all these awsome decal skins.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA15R0E02748
Here's a sample:
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With these doesn't matter what color you get. There are many designs available.
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lm that guy said:
I like the white 16gb. Just pop in a 64/32GB memory card and your good to go
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You do know that the external memory card is good only for storing pics,videos,datas,doc etc. but most apps if not all specially games which eats a lot of space can only be installed on your pecious internal storage so having at least 32gb. Internal is a plus.
mywingtophone said:
You do know that the external memory card is good only for storing pics,videos,datas,doc etc. but most apps if not all specially games which eats a lot of space can only be installed on your pecious internal storage so having at least 32gb. Internal is a plus.
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oh yes, i did some research before buying. I remember switching back and forth between the 32 grey and 16 white on amazon.com for nearly 2 hours until i made up my mind haha, but what helped me choose was this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1857391 this script swaps your internal and memory card space for app data storage. I haven't tested this yet though, but i hope it works.
lm that guy said:
oh yes, i did some research before buying. I remember switching back and forth between the 32 grey and 16 white on amazon.com for nearly 2 hours until i made up my mind haha, but what helped me choose was this thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=185739. this script swaps your internal and memory card space for app data storage. I haven't tested this yet though, but i hope it works.
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Link does not work.........
who needs more than 16 gigs of app only storage? i have quite a few apps, as many as i need and that is a lot, and i only use 4.1 gb of storage. i cant imagine that someone would need a little under 4 times the amount of apps i have. pop in a 16 or 32 gb sd card to store pics, music, movies and other data on and you will be fine
dishinit said:
Link does not work.........
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Sorry link works now
whoa... results not what I expected.
To be honest, white looks cleaner and better on video and in pictures; however, when I went to the stores to check it out, deep gray also looked okay (I think I just prefer gunmetal gray over .. the blueish gray that it is) and kind of pretty as well.
wmka2000 said:
Samsung Announced that there are only Deep Grey Version for 32 GB Storage device:laugh:
Check the beginning of this video
http://support-us.samsung.com/spsn/detail.jsp?ctg_id=1280&sub_ctg_id=&live_id=&video_id=1785174479001
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Funny, I had the option of a grey or white 32gb 3g note 10.1.... That was here in Australia...
mbucks911 said:
who needs more than 16 gigs of app only storage? i have quite a few apps, as many as i need and that is a lot, and i only use 4.1 gb of storage. i cant imagine that someone would need a little under 4 times the amount of apps i have. pop in a 16 or 32 gb sd card to store pics, music, movies and other data on and you will be fine
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I have the 32gb tab with a 64gb sd card... I have less than 5gb remaining on both internal and external storage... Trust me, if you have it, you'll use it...
I think he meant that there is no white wi-fi 32gb version.
You'll most likely put it in a case anyway so who cares?
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The OS itself might be using a portion of it that's not visible, however, I always have around 600MB+ in-use, even with bare Stock and AOSP... so I doubt this.
It probably is the OS and kernel using up a chunk. Android 4.2 is pretty heavy.
Android also caches stuff in RAM that isnt even open, even right at boot. This is to help open those apps faster, but if something else needs that cached memory space then Android automatically drops the app in cache and uses it for whatever is needed.
Remember, unused RAM is wasted RAM. Looks to me like you have 600MB of waste
Part of the 2GB DRAM is probably also shared with video memory and since the resolution is so high it's a big chunk.
same problem but not with nexus 4
Hi guys,
I have the same problem with my nexus 10, about 500-600 MB RAM lost..
The strange thing is that in my nexus 4 it recognize alla 2 GB RAM.
In my nexus 10 I have 2 users, do you think that can ne the cause?
Thanks
faithjano said:
Hi guys,
I have the same problem with my nexus 10, about 500-600 MB RAM lost..
The strange thing is that in my nexus 4 it recognize alla 2 GB RAM.
In my nexus 10 I have 2 users, do you think that can ne the cause?
Thanks
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Multiuser doesn't have any effect; I've had about 1.6GB memory available on all custom ROM's and Kernels I've tried. The fact that the Nexus 4 displays all 2GB usable though does still raise the question as to why about 400MB is missing on the Nexus 10.
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Part of the 2GB DRAM is probably also shared with video memory and since the resolution is so high it's a big chunk.
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This might be a possibility; but I think at this point the Kernel source might be a good place to start digging for proof of whether this is happening or not.
Some GPUs have dedicated memory and it does not share from the system RAM, our GPU shares and thus it takes a chunk of what we have available.
If it makes you feel any better on my GSIII with CM10 its a 2GB device says 1630MB is available. Sounds normal with the N10 mine is the same
The ram measurement on Android has never shown as 100% empty (I think my Nexus One had 276MB free). Same as a Desktop/Laptop, it would only be 100% unused if there were no Kernel or libraries loaded.
I'm by no means an expert on this, but I dug into android memory management quite a bit when trying to optimize Shadowgun Deadzone performance. I don't think any of the apps measure memory used by native code. There's an adb command that will show you native memory use for an app, but I never dug that far into it. Again, I'm not a developer, but I assume your missing memory is being used by used by the parts android running native code. What's not clear to me is how android handles how much native memory an app can use. I got over my gaming fixation, but I'm still curious about this. If anyone can shed some light on this, I'd love to hear it.
Mine says 1gb used and 613mb free
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bioorganic said:
I'm by no means an expert on this, but I dug into android memory management quite a bit when trying to optimize Shadowgun Deadzone performance. I don't think any of the apps measure memory used by native code. There's an adb command that will show you native memory use for an app, but I never dug that far into it. Again, I'm not a developer, but I assume your missing memory is being used by used by the parts android running native code. What's not clear to me is how android handles how much native memory an app can use. I got over my gaming fixation, but I'm still curious about this. If anyone can shed some light on this, I'd love to hear it.
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I've checked /proc/meminfo and it looks like even the kernel doesn't see the full 2GB (assuming it is really there). MemTotal is 1,686,380 kB. Even if they were using 2GB==2,000,000,000 B, it's still missing over 150MB. I'd really like to know what is going on, but even Google support is completely clueless.
I'll probably just return it for something that lets me use the amount of RAM advertised.
May be video ram is shared with main memory ?
About 160MB is taken by Android OS (kernel + necessary libraries). It's reserved only for the OS, so it's unavailable for the user. It's common for all Android devices I've had.
For example my i9001 (SGS+) has also missing ~160MB of RAM (should have 512MB, but has only ~350MB available for apps.
If the video memory is shared at the hardware level, the number would make sense. What irks me is that I don't see that mentioned anywhere even on 'techie' blogs/reviews and even Google support doesn't know this about their device.
From what I understand, unless the kernel was modified to report less memory than is really available, meminfo should report the full amount accurately.
I don't even get 1.6 GB of ram
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thats seems to be a normal thing for 4.2.2
As an owner of a previous tablet, my Acer Iconia a500 reported (in 3.0, 3.1, 3.2, 4.0, 4.1, and 4.2) that it only had 725MB of RAM (it shipped with 1GB). My guess is that the missing chunk is graphics memory. I also show 1.6GB of RAM in my Nexus 10.
prior to 4.2.2, the GPU had 400-some MB reserved. At 4.2.2, there is almost an extra 400MB (386MB I think to be exact) reserved for the GPU, so 2GB - 800MB = 1.2GB
The extra GPU memory is to prevent userspace fragmentation if I read right.
Awesome. Thanks for the explanation. I just noticed that after the CyanogenMod 4.2.2 patch, mine dropped as well. Honeycomb and Ice Cream Sandwich must've reserved around 256MB of memory.
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Odd, seeing as how the N7 has 975/1024 available
And my nexus 4 has 1.8 of the 2gb available.
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