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How do you think HD will be playing HD videos? Remember the great deception that the Kaiser was.. and I still I'm not over it..
But If it is like my Diamond, will be superb!
However, the screen is bigger, and will require more from the hardware.
Here is a link for a video and in the last minute (8:40) where he runs CorePlayer and watches House.S05E01 - (will it be HDTV.XviD ??)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-OT4wr_E5ZkQ/htc_touch_hd/R/efp_video
If someone could translate that part would be great.
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bigger screen does not need better hardware , its just bigger pixels that need better battery capacity
manuelcalavera said:
bigger screen does not need better hardware , its just bigger pixels that need better battery capacity
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Its not only bigger screen... its also bigger resolution (By 25%)...
If its another type of screen, it could even have better performance at less ennergy consumption
Great video tough i can't undestand that language either.
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How do you think HD will be playing HD videos? Remember the great deception that the Kaiser was.. and I still I'm not over it..
But If it is like my Diamond, will be superb!
However, the screen is bigger, and will require more from the hardware.
Here is a link for a video and in the last minute (8:40) where he runs CorePlayer and watches House.S05E01 - (will it be HDTV.XviD ??)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-OT4wr_E5ZkQ/htc_touch_hd/R/efp_video
If someone could translate that part would be great.
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I don't understand what you mean.
the maximum of vids you can play (or lets say that the screen will show you) is ofcourse its own resolution. So you will not see real HD videos as this screen has not got a real HD resolution. But its own resolution is no problem for the CPU. Playing a movie with a bigger size, will just downscale the video to the resoultion of the HD but as there is more data to process, it may slow the CPU more down, depending of how big the movie is. but you would not want to play a 1080p video on this anyway as it would just use up huge amount of storage space, but doesn't look better. You will get the best and sharpest images if you convert your movies to the exact resolution of the screen.
Oh I understood your point, cause you probably use PocketDivXEncoder..
I was just comparing with HTC Kaiser.. On videos as well as other stuff, it sucked.
This is an important question.
That linked video showing house didn't look very smooth, i was hoping for better playback quality than that. Was it the HD, coreplayer orthe video conversion that made it stutter a little?
Does any one know of any other exmples of the HD video playback? HTC say that its makes it closer to watching the cinema on a mobile, is this statement going to be true?
donbronzi said:
This is an important question.
That linked video showing house didn't look very smooth, i was hoping for better playback quality than that. Was it the HD, coreplayer orthe video conversion that made it stutter a little?
Does any one know of any other exmples of the HD video playback? HTC say that its makes it closer to watching the cinema on a mobile, is this statement going to be true?
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i cant imagine that the HD as any problem with videos. It often just highly depends on the play. Windows media play is crap in playing videos most of the time. But even my old Compaq Ipaq could play videos very smooth.
Some players are faster then others.
language is czech
I thought it was Czech!!
But can you translate that part?
I think that it isn't very fluid the streaming..
Sometimes we notice some delays.. On my Diamond I can see it too..
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How do you think HD will be playing HD videos?
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to answer the original question, no it will not be able to play HD videos.
HD by definition is at least 720p, that's 720p or 1080p by today's market distribution, may be later on, there will be some weird resolution at 960p or something like that. but right now HD video are only available in 720p or 1080p
1. the video chip is not powerful enough to decode HD content,
2. windows mobile 6 doesn't support HD content
3. Touch HD only has screen resolution of 800x640, again far from HD
4. CPU isn't power enough to decode HD content (even a full desktop/laptop 500 MHz cpu isn't enough to decode, let alone a stripped down mobile cpu.)
im sure that this "HD" will have some serious problems on playing good resolution videos ...
man , qualcomm's 528 Mhz is the CPU of htc diamond, and they let that beast to have this heart on his chest ! its not fair
I might complain that the HD does not have a flash, or little base memory - but not being able to play HD video - come on guys, dream on
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=3fAROWXVQiw&feature=related
Look at 7 min, he shows a youtube movie wvga quality. It doesn't play very smooth either. Let's hope its because of a bad connection or something.
And lets not forget that the units floating around as preview units did carry unfinished ROM and early-stage drivers
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I might complain that the HD does not have a flash, or little base memory - but not being able to play HD video - come on guys, dream on
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oh i totally agree, i dont expect it to play HD videos, as long as it play good videos at a decent framerate. but i can see how the name is misleading some novice users to think it can play HD files.
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oh i totally agree, i dont expect it to play HD videos, as long as it play good videos at a decent framerate. but i can see how the name is misleading some novice users to think it can play HD files.
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it will play videos of its own resolution ofcourse, what are you thinking? i don't understand this topic. it has a 480*800 screen and will ofcourse be able to play videos at that size with no problem. and as i said before, even my 6 years old pocket pc could do so. and it woulkd make no sense if you would try to play a video with a higher resolution. as the screen will still only be able to show you 480*800 pixels. ofcourse, if you are talking about play real HD videos, than ofcourse i can tell you it may have probleems doing so. but it makes no sence even trying to do so.
So, take every video you have got and convert it to 480*800 and thats it.
ps: about the youtube video beeing a little choppy:
ofcourse it is, its a youtube video... and on that, it is beeing streamed!! from the net and for that, it runs very well. that has nothing to do with the cpu. its only streaming.
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it will play videos of its own resolution ofcourse, what are you thinking? i don't understand this topic.
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i am thinking of the OP's original question "can HD play HD videos" of course i understand the resolution of this phone and the video it will play.
so i dont know what you are thinking posting without reading the entire thread.
my post, which you quoted was wishing for playing good video at a decent frame rate. sure you can play videos on your 6 year old ppc, but try play, say a jet li movie on there, all his actions are a blur because the framerate isn't fast enough to capture all his kungfu actions. dido for sports videos. you understand now?
and if you are confused regarding why the OP want to watch and HD video on a non HD display, well i can tell you it is possible to put a video with higher resolution on a device which lower resolution display. it will just be upto that CPU to decode and shrink the video. suuurree, it doens't make sense, but it's do-able.. uptill a certain point (resolution), above which it will be too heavy and too much work for the CPU. and if you want to ask why, well i'm guessing 1. the OP was mislead by the phone's name Touch HD, 2. he may not have the time or software or doesn't want to reprocess the movies to 800x480.
and if you are still confused after reading all that.. well... ummm... LOL
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it will play videos of its own resolution ofcourse, what are you thinking? i don't understand this topic. it has a 480*800 screen and will ofcourse be able to play videos at that size with no problem. and as i said before, even my 6 years old pocket pc could do so. and it woulkd make no sense if you would try to play a video with a higher resolution. as the screen will still only be able to show you 480*800 pixels. ofcourse, if you are talking about play real HD videos, than ofcourse i can tell you it may have probleems doing so. but it makes no sence even trying to do so.
So, take every video you have got and convert it to 480*800 and thats it.
ps: about the youtube video beeing a little choppy:
ofcourse it is, its a youtube video... and on that, it is beeing streamed!! from the net and for that, it runs very well. that has nothing to do with the cpu. its only streaming.
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Aye but i'd love to seen a flawless WGVA streaming video....
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that has nothing to do with the cpu. its only streaming.
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technically i disagree, but from a practical standpoint, sure, i'll go with that. those net videos doesn't require much processing power to decode, very little load on cpu.
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it will play videos of its own resolution ofcourse, what are you thinking? i don't understand this topic. it has a 480*800 screen and will ofcourse be able to play videos at that size with no problem.
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Traditionally speaking, all HTC devices have very poor video playback .
Till the latest batch of VGA Devices (Diamond and Touch Pro) which i have no access to and hence cannot comment upon, all previous VGA devices had problem playing back video ENCODED AT THERE NATIVE RESOLUTION. (for reference, have a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=324371&highlight=video)
the best i could manage was a 532x300 xvid with a bitrate of 800-1200.
so it will be a very pleasant surprise if the HD can playback video encoded at 640x480 leave alone 800x480.
On a side note, since HD will be pretty similar to the Diamond / Touch Pro , you could probably ask your friends to run a benchmark with different resolutions and bitrates.
Hi guys, I see a lot of GB roms mentioning YouTubeHD, yet I can't seem to get it to work, I get the HQ button that's always been there, but not 720p, any ideas?
Well, mobile HQ isn't 720p either. I don't see why you would want 720p in the first place, your phone doesn't have that many lines?
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Well, mobile HQ isn't 720p either. I don't see why you would want 720p in the first place, your phone doesn't have that many lines?
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I'm quite aware of both of those things, but it has been mentioned that YouTube works in hd for the HD2 running Gingerbread. And I know from my own testing that a 720p encoded movie looks a lot nicer on the HD2 than a 800x480 encoded movie.
Uhm I haven't heard of any of that, and Google doesn't hint anything in that direction either, I think you're confusing some stuff. A lot of roms support 720p playback, but not in Youtube.
720p in se doesn't look beter than a 480p video by the way, on the contrary. You don't see the lines your screen can't show, and actually this may even result in a slightly worse video because of it.
A well encoded 480p video is at least as good as a 720p video, problem is that a lot 480p conversions suck. But that's not because it's 480p, it's because of the conversion.
That's why I don't think we'll ever have 720p mobile video. It's just wasted bandwidth over a nicely encoded 480p.
Oh, and I think Youtube HD just refers to the revamped app. Not 100% sure though so don't quote me on that.
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Uhm I haven't heard of any of that, and Google doesn't hint anything in that direction either, I think you're confusing some stuff. A lot of roms support 720p playback, but not in Youtube.
720p in se doesn't look beter than a 480p video by the way, on the contrary. You don't see the lines your screen can't show, and actually this may even result in a slightly worse video because of it.
A well encoded 480p video is at least as good as a 720p video, problem is that a lot 480p conversions suck. But that's not because it's 480p, it's because of the conversion.
That's why I don't think we'll ever have 720p mobile video. It's just wasted bandwidth over a nicely encoded 480p.
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Totally 100% agree. There would be more chance of performance issues with a downscaled 720 video on a 480 screen. It DOES NOT look better than a properly encoded 480 video. It is not physically possible for it to look better as your screen cannot show anything more than 480 pixels in each of the 800 columns. End of.
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Oh, and I think Youtube HD just refers to the revamped app. Not 100% sure though so don't quote me on that.
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I'm quoting you
Nah mate - it is the HD functionality in the "recent" update that gives it the name.
Damn Britts!
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Damn Britts!
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I just got my Note in the mail from Clove UK. And everything is great so far, and I dunno if this is and Android thing (This is my first Android device) or a Samsung thing. When I play videos from You Tube or videos that I encoded the blacks are heavily pixelated. (Not sure if that's a word). Am I doing something wrong? What program and/or setting is the best to get rid of that black pixel issue? The test video of the jelly fish works great. Noob questions I know! Thank in advance again for your help.
My guess is that its not directly your fault.
There are several aspects to think of here:
- It may be that artefacts (caused by video encoded in low bitrate) are more noticable on a screen like that of the galaxy note than others.
- It may be that youtube just delivers you the low quality version of the video.
- The video on youtube may be in bad quality to begin with, try other youtube videos and see if it happens only on a few ones or many.
- Note: I see now you already tried the video, so that is probably not a cause. (Your screen itself may have some flaws. Check on that for instance by using a screen test tool like "Screen Test" or playing the video already supplied with the Note (Open the standard video player app that comes with it and select "lightness & slimmess"))
When it comes to watching youtube on a mobile device I recommend (if you have a mobile data connection with enough bandwidth, such as good umts or hsdpa or Wifi) to enable high quality in the youtube app (whenever possible, use the youtube app, and do not play it in the browser).
To do this hit the options button in the youtube app, select settings and enable the first option to enable high mobile quality.
Secondly many videos will allow you to switch between lower and higher quality with the HD button on the upper left (visible at the start or when you tap the screen while palaying) - if you enable high mobile quality this should be turned on to high quality by default.
When it comes to youtube thats probably all you can do to improve quality.
When it comes to playing videos in general (excluding youtube) the standard player can manage most formats. However if you have trouble with some videos you may want to give Dice player a try!
Hope this helps!
Ok thanks, I will def try that!
I belive this is coursed by the hight res/density of the Note screen and low quality of the video in YouTube app, I think the highest quality of video in the YouTube app is only 480P.
I also noticed this problem while streaming old TV shows from PLEX to my Note, this is less noticeable with my Tab 10.1 with the same resolution but its screen is about 4 times larger.
You could use the stock or most aftermarket browser and watch 720P YouTube using Flash on normal YouTube site.
simple solution is to not use the app and just use a browser. ive had no issues watching 720p videos in youtube on the browser.
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I just got my Note in the mail from Clove UK. And everything is great so far, and I dunno if this is and Android thing (This is my first Android device) or a Samsung thing. When I play videos from You Tube or videos that I encoded the blacks are heavily pixelated. (Not sure if that's a word). Am I doing something wrong? What program and/or setting is the best to get rid of that black pixel issue? The test video of the jelly fish works great. Noob questions I know! Thank in advance again for your help.
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can you post the youtube link so u can test on my Note.
I have also experienced this on other vids and am convinced it may a bit depth limitation of the Note screen... but need to verify.
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younghov22 said:
I just got my Note in the mail from Clove UK. And everything is great so far, and I dunno if this is and Android thing (This is my first Android device) or a Samsung thing. When I play videos from You Tube or videos that I encoded the blacks are heavily pixelated. (Not sure if that's a word). Am I doing something wrong? What program and/or setting is the best to get rid of that black pixel issue? The test video of the jelly fish works great. Noob questions I know! Thank in advance again for your help.
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I've noticed this too with the You Tube app. The blacks sometimes are blocky. A good example is the Avatar 1080p trailer, especially around 15 seconds mark: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_i2RCBa3l-g
If I view the same clip on You Tube via a browser (720p settings) it looks better, but the browser is a fiddly substitute for the app on a phone. It does seem to be mostly a bitrate limitation though, so maybe Google or a.n. other hacker needs to modify "HD" on their app to mean a higher bitrate, now we're defining 1280x800 as a mobile screen resolution .
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Actually, if I watch that Avatar clip in the browser with a playback quality set to 240p or 360p it obviously looks pixelated, but doesn't show the blockiness that's in the You Tube app stream. Looks like the app either is handling the stream differently (badly) or the stream itself is different to that which is sent to the flash plugin in the browser. Wonder if Google is using a different codec for their app. WebM maybe?
Hi guys, since i searched all over the forum, i can't seem to find much or any full downloadable 4K samples, before i thought the YT ones looked good, but after downloading one in full ress non compressed ~ 50mbp/s instead of crappy 20 mbp/s youtube ones, i know understand that it does look ever better. Si i thought we can use this tread, in order to share personal footage, and full res/raw pictures if possible, thanks!
Since i don't own the phone yet, i will share my videos/pics later on, please do share i want to make a small collection, thanks!
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Hi guys, since i searched all over the forum, i can't seem to find much or any full downloadable 4K samples, before i thought the YT ones looked good, but after downloading one in full ress non compressed ~ 50mbp/s instead of crappy 20 mbp/s youtube ones, i know understand that it does look ever better. Si i thought we can use this tread, in order to share personal footage, and full res/raw pictures if possible, thanks!
Since i don't own the phone yet, i will share my videos/pics later on, please do share i want to make a small collection, thanks!
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Not sure about compressed 4K, but I searched on YouTube for 4K video and I was BLOWN AWAY by the quality. Its amazing. On the contrary, 4K wallpapers don't seem to be as impressive. :/
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Not sure about compressed 4K, but I searched on YouTube for 4K video and I was BLOWN AWAY by the quality. Its amazing. On the contrary, 4K wallpapers don't seem to be as impressive. :/
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Oh you cant imagine how much more you will be blown away by non compressed 4K videos, wit 50mbp/s bit rate, YT ones are a joke at least during movement
I can't get 1080p to play on the YouTube app let alone 4k.
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I can't get 1080p to play on the YouTube app let alone 4k.
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This has to be a provisioning problem with Google's servers. I can get 1080 and 4K on all my devices except the Note 4.
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I can't get 1080p to play on the YouTube app let alone 4k.
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This files are not meant to be watched on youtube, they are meant to be viewed on pc, but taken on your Note 4
Uploaded to dropbox, or other free sharing service.
Ok so question.....the nexus 6 is out already. You think Google took off the feature on our note 4 just to bring it out on the nexus 6??? I wonder if nexus 6 owners can get 4K?
not likely; its a bandwidth issue, so I cant imagine any phone version of youtube getting any 4k videos any time soon
google doesnt want the bandwidth being sucked up by people who need to watch youtube videos in 4k on a 5 inch screen...
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not likely; its a bandwidth issue, so I cant imagine any phone version of youtube getting any 4k videos any time soon
google doesnt want the bandwidth being sucked up by people who need to watch youtube videos in 4k on a 5 inch screen...
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No, its actually an APP bug, not a google/bandwidth issue, AFAIK. Also please guys, start sharing videos, lets not go offtopic, i have hard time finding videos in max quality and no one here helped yet as well
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No, its actually an APP bug, not a google/bandwidth issue, AFAIK. Also please guys, start sharing videos, lets not go offtopic, i have hard time finding videos in max quality and no one here helped yet as well
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I would love to find more than 3 videos at full rez.
lol not a single video posted, really disappointed
So someone post 4K video? (non compressed)
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For some odd reason many of my videos on YouTube only show as a 720p option, when there are 1080p, 1440p options available on my sub 720p iPhone 7 for the same video.
An example is the following video
https://youtu.be/Ge1j7MBSQiE
Yet others play just fine at 1440p. I have tried updating to the latest YouTube app, wiping cache and settings and downloaded the latest APK from a mirror without any luck.
Is anyone seeing a similar problem or can offer any solutions?
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For some odd reason many of my videos on YouTube only show as a 720p option, when there are 1080p, 1440p options available on my sub 720p iPhone 7 for the same video.
An example is the following video
https://youtu.be/Ge1j7MBSQiE
Yet others play just fine at 1440p. I have tried updating to the latest YouTube app, wiping cache and settings and downloaded the latest APK from a mirror without any luck.
Is anyone seeing a similar problem or can offer any solutions?
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Change resolution on phone to highest then reboot... Make sure video is 1440p too as not all videos are ..
boxrick said:
For some odd reason many of my videos on YouTube only show as a 720p option, when there are 1080p, 1440p options available on my sub 720p iPhone 7 for the same video.
An example is the following video
Yet others play just fine at 1440p. I have tried updating to the latest YouTube app, wiping cache and settings and downloaded the latest APK from a mirror without any luck.
Is anyone seeing a similar problem or can offer any solutions?
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I think your Video is just available in 720p.
I tried and could only choose 720p as highest resolution.
Try this video:
Here you can choose higher resolutions.
Here you can see it
It always defaults to 720, but videos can be adjusted if available. I wish there was a way to default it to 1440
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What has been stated is incorrect, the above video is available in up to 4k. Simply try from a desktop PC or a different phone.
A large amount of high resolution videos are not showing higher than 720p, yet randomly other ones are (but not that many) That one above was just an example. All of the ones I have uploaded do not appear to be available any higher, even the ones in the past day(s).
Selecting higher resolutions from the performance menu and selecting that makes no difference since I only run my phone in that mode anyway!
Don't get me wrong, a few select videos have options for 1080/1440p such as a few demo videos. But in the large majority of cases content I always watch and know is available at higher resolutions is not going beyond 720p
https://youtu.be/QAHlOJlQhsU
Is another example it goes to 1080p/60 on my Iphone yet nothing beyond 720p on my Samsung S8
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What has been stated is incorrect, the above video is available in up to 4k. Simply try from a desktop PC or a different phone.
A large amount of high resolution videos are not showing higher than 720p, yet randomly other ones are (but not that many) That one above was just an example. All of the ones I have uploaded do not appear to be available any higher, even the ones in the past day(s).
Selecting higher resolutions from the performance menu and selecting that makes no difference since I only run my phone in that mode anyway!
Don't get me wrong, a few select videos have options for 1080/1440p such as a few demo videos. But in the large majority of cases content I always watch and know is available at higher resolutions is not going beyond 720p
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That KBHD video is one ripped from his channel. That one is 720P max.
Yes I see that 720 for a lot of vids is 720, and there are some that offer higher than 720. For some reason it defaults to 720 even if there is higher resolution available is what I noticed.
Same problem on Nexus 6P running latest 7.1.2. Started happening recently. 720p/60fps is maximum. 1080p not available at all.
i have noticed this too but i think it only affects videos recorded at 60fps? might be worth doing some tests, i tried a couple of videos by searching for 1080p60 and playing them but the highest resolution available would be 720p60.
Seems fixed for me or something.
https://youtu.be/1La4QzGeaaQ
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strange that, could i ask what variant of the s8 are you using? exynos or snapdragon?
I am using the Snapdragon version.
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thanks, i'm using exynos, not sure wether that would make a difference but worth looking into
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thanks, i'm using exynos, not sure wether that would make a difference but worth looking into
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I had the same problem you did. I did get a YouTube update and checked and it went away.
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There are several chrome plug-ins that will force youtube resolution to whatever you want.
Still have this problem on my Galaxy Tab A 2016 and several other people too (look at the AppStore YouTube reviews)
What was the last version without that problem?
1080p60fps issue
I have the same problem... Actually, problem is related to 1080p60fps YouTube videos. I cannot see option to use it, maximum is 720p60fps.
If it is not 60fps, there is no problem to set video on 1080p or 1440p...
I think it's server side or the app itself and not the devices. As shown above there has been no trouble for me switching out higher than 720 even with 60fps. I had that problem initially and had an update from YouTube which fixed my problem.
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I think the solution is to chose video's with high quality on WiFi only in the settings of YouTube. it works for me