This just might be the eventual replacement for my loved Nexus 6 I still love it, but the battery is slowing down, and the memory storage is filling up...
http://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-mate-9-officially-unveiled/
Is it compatible with Verizon?
to be honest, it was just announced recently, and it's not 'set' for the USA ...yet but i am hopeful!
kidhudi said:
Is it compatible with Verizon?
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I found this:
ETWORK Technology
GSM / CDMA / HSPA / EVDO / LTE
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2 (MHA-L29 model only)
CDMA 800 / 1900 - MHA-L29
3G bands HSDPA 800 / 850 / 900 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100 - MHA-L29, MHA-L09
CDMA2000 1xEV-DO & TD-SCDMA - MHA-L29
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 9(1800), 12(700), 17(700), 18(800), 19(800), 20(800), 26(850), 28(700), 29(700), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500) - MHA-L29
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 9(1800), 12(700), 17(700), 18(800), 19(800), 20(800), 26(850), 28(700), 29(700), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300) - MHA-L09
Speed HSPA 42.2/5.76 Mbps, LTE-A Cat12 600/150 Mbps
GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
ReDaved said:
to be honest, it was just announced recently, and it's not 'set' for the USA ...yet but i am hopeful!
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I found this:
ETWORK Technology
GSM / CDMA / HSPA / EVDO / LTE
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2 (MHA-L29 model only)
CDMA 800 / 1900 - MHA-L29
3G bands HSDPA 800 / 850 / 900 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100 - MHA-L29, MHA-L09
CDMA2000 1xEV-DO & TD-SCDMA - MHA-L29
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 9(1800), 12(700), 17(700), 18(800), 19(800), 20(800), 26(850), 28(700), 29(700), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500) - MHA-L29
LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 9(1800), 12(700), 17(700), 18(800), 19(800), 20(800), 26(850), 28(700), 29(700), 38(2600), 39(1900), 40(2300) - MHA-L09
Speed HSPA 42.2/5.76 Mbps, LTE-A Cat12 600/150 Mbps
GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
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No band 13 is a no go for me, if more of these awesome phones had it, I'd bounce from the n6 already.
Still pondering on getting this device to replace my nexus 6. I'm 85% sure to get it. If the camera is receiving good reviews it's a go for me honestly. I don't care about QHD screens, all I care for is performance, camera and battery life. And it seem 2 marks can be set already.
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Still pondering on getting this device to replace my nexus 6. I'm 85% sure to get it. If the camera is receiving good reviews it's a go for me honestly. I don't care about QHD screens, all I care for is performance, camera and battery life. And it seem 2 marks can be set already.
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My battery has tanked since updating to nougat, I just picked up a mate 8 and wow this thing is a sight to behold. Plus the battery on the mate 8 is probably the best battery life I have ever experienced on any smart phone..
I think I said it in the wrong order, but I mean that performance and battery life would be good, just waiting for the camera reviews . I used to have a note 3 with a 10kmah zerolemon battery, I would like to get a bit of that feeling back with my next smartphone.
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No stereo speakers, an LCD, and a Kirin processor so likely little to no development... I'll be sticking with the Nexus 6 for a while more at least. I'm still holding out hope that a new Moto X will come out with at least a 5.7" screen, or that OnePlus will make a phone with a bigger screen and stereo speakers.
My battery will last at least 4 hours after nougat, unless i do a lot of gaming, but if i can recharge once mid day i'm OK and i have a wallet sized external battery thing Thanks for the info on your Mate 8
i see folks dissing on the lack of 4k display on the mate 9, but if i can get it for a price sorta close to what i paid for my N6, i'm OK with what looks like similar resolution that i have now
juggaknot77 said:
My battery has tanked since updating to nougat, I just picked up a mate 8 and wow this thing is a sight to behold. Plus the battery on the mate 8 is probably the best battery life I have ever experienced on any smart phone..
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Supposedly "Sound: Stereo speaker grill on the top and bottom of the device. 3.5mm headphone jack. 4 microphones positioned through the body of the device allowing for directional sound recording. Noise cancellation during calls possible with microphone positioned within the loudspeaker"
NOt sure about Kirin, you think no updates from Nougat then? i wonder if the Mate 8 got any updates juggaknot77 ?
Prozart said:
No stereo speakers, an LCD, and a Kirin processor so likely little to no development... I'll be sticking with the Nexus 6 for a while more at least. I'm still holding out hope that a new Moto X will come out with at least a 5.7" screen, or that OnePlus will make a phone with a bigger screen and stereo speakers.
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I know this could be manufacture hype but have you seen this?: http://consumer.huawei.com/en/mobile-phones/mate9/html/camera.htm
if it is even close WOW
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I think I said it in the wrong order, but I mean that performance and battery life would be good, just waiting for the camera reviews . I used to have a note 3 with a 10kmah zerolemon battery, I would like to get a bit of that feeling back with my next smartphone.
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Supposedly "Sound: Stereo speaker grill on the top and bottom of the device. 3.5mm headphone jack. 4 microphones positioned through the body of the device allowing for directional sound recording. Noise cancellation during calls possible with microphone positioned within the loudspeaker"
NOt sure about Kirin, you think no updates from Nougat then? i wonder if the Mate 8 got any updates juggaknot77 ?
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Currently the Mate 8 is running 6.0, it's going to get 7.0 soon from what I've been reading. It's a amazing device, like I said previously never have I gotten battery life on any android device like on the Mate 8. I took it off the charger Wednesday night at 7pm, woke up Thursday morning at 5am still at a 100%, used it all day and got home Thursday evening at 7:30pm, I haven't charged it yet. Used it this morning to play music, browse the web on my commute to work, I would say 1hr and half commute and the battery is still at 84%. Still can't believe it....
WOW 84 % that is truly awesome! another big plus vote on the 9
how about the EMUI interface? is it anywhere near as bad as the Samsung 'overlay'? [i forget what they call it but the Knox and all that crap]
juggaknot77 said:
Currently the Mate 8 is running 6.0, it's going to get 7.0 soon from what I've been reading. It's a amazing device, like I said previously never have I gotten battery life on any android device like on the Mate 8. I took it off the charger Wednesday night at 7pm, woke up Thursday morning at 5am still at a 100%, used it all day and got home Thursday evening at 7:30pm, I haven't charged it yet. Used it this morning to play music, browse the web on my commute to work, I would say 1hr and half commute and the battery is still at 84%. Still can't believe it....
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Supposedly "Sound: Stereo speaker grill on the top and bottom of the device. 3.5mm headphone jack. 4 microphones positioned through the body of the device allowing for directional sound recording. Noise cancellation during calls possible with microphone positioned within the loudspeaker"
NOt sure about Kirin, you think no updates from Nougat then? i wonder if the Mate 8 got any updates juggaknot77 ?
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Ahh wow, I didn't even see that. I just saw the front of the device and didn't see the dual speaker grills. I still prefer front facing cause when you're in landscape your hand can kinda cover the bottom speakers, but better than mono for sure. They will probably update to Nougat I just don't like their skin, I'd prefer more stock Android.
ReDaved said:
WOW 84 % that is truly awesome! another big plus vote on the 9
how about the EMUI interface? is it anywhere near as bad as the Samsung 'overlay'? [i forget what they call it but the Knox and all that crap]
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Quite honestly, the interface is not bad, I find it better than Touchwiz. I've been playing with it and decided to add Nova Launcher like I do with all my Android devices. I found a stock theme made for the Mate 8 to make it look like almost stock AOSP and it looks great in my opinion. Honestly after the whole Google/Pixel debacle I'm looking elsewhere as for my Android daily drivers and i think I'm gonna stick with the Mate 8 and see what Oneplus has to offer next year. Keeping my Shamu as my back up though, that thing is not leaving my side.
Looks nice, but no Sprint either. I think this is strictly GSM. It seems now to be harder and harder to find any sub 5.5" phones. Everything coming out is 5.5" if not bigger.
I want this phone! Hope it comes to the UK. I've considered the LG V20, Pixel XL, but I have a feeling I'll end up with this one. Beautiful phone!
Sent from my SM-N910F using XDA-Developers mobile app
Somebody posted a quick picture comparison vs the pixel xl https://jmcomms.com/2016/11/03/camera-test-huawei-mate-9-vs-google-pixel-xl/ for anyone who might be interested to see what the cam can do. The pictures look pretty good to me. I'd say more natural vs the pixel which tends to oversaturate the pictures imo.
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Somebody posted a quick picture comparison vs the pixel xl https://jmcomms.com/2016/11/03/camera-test-huawei-mate-9-vs-google-pixel-xl/ for anyone who might be interested to see what the cam can do. The pictures look pretty good to me. I'd say more natural vs the pixel which tends to oversaturate the pictures imo.
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It probably looks more natural than the pixel because the pixel probably had hdr turned on
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What is the difference Titan <-> Kaiser?
a wiki was made for your pleasure
Network: Tri-band HSDPA/UMTS (850, 1900, 2100 MHz), Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
Phone: CDMA dual band digital 800/1900MHz. Data: EVDO rev 0, upgradable later this year to rev A.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Titan
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=771&id2=733
In a nutshell, the screen, RAM quantity and (cellular) network it operates on.
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In a nutshell, the screen, RAM quantity and (cellular) network it operates on.
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which one has a better screen?
They both pretty much have the same screen. 240 x 320 QVGA LCD 65,000+ colors. Not really the best as compared to other devices out there. Only difference is that the Kaiser's screen tilts. The Kaiser also has a 3.0 Megapixel camera vs. the 2.0 on the Titan.
Well this large website states it is & has the official details.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tech/ne...ches-with-snapdragon-801-chip-duo-camera.html
Official details
Here are the highlights that stand out the most to me in using it as my daily phone for months:
A more refined design: it's 90% metal now, with the metal wrapping up the side (the HTC One was 70% metal). The gunmetal gray is simply gorgeous and has this great texture to it. I've also never seen a single HTC One (M8) with a gap of any kind - the entire phone is more solidly constructed.
Bigger Battery: with a 2600 mAH battery, it lasts longer. I don't have to think about charging it before the end of the day.
Bigger Storage: Yes, it's true, we put a microSD slot in there, and it supports up to 128 GB of storage. How's that for mind-blowing?
Bigger Screen: 5 inches is a nice size; not so huge like the One max, but noticeably bigger than the 4.7 inch screen on the HTC One. I got used to the 5.9" screen on the One max, but there was no adjustment period with the HTC One (M8).
Better BoomSound: The audio quality from the dual-front facing speakers on the HTC One was great...but you wouldn't believe how much better the new HTC One (M8) sounds! Richer, fuller audio with a wider sound. It's 25% louder, yes, but the audio quality is dramatically better. I didn't grasp by how much until a co-worker did a side by side comparison for me.
A Better Camera Experience: It's a 4 megapixel UltraPixel sensor, but we switched to a new provider for the sensor, completely addressed the pink tint issue, added a second sensor to get depth/spatial information (which allows for some great camera effects). Image quality is simply better.
KEY SPECIFICATIONS
COLORS: Gunmetal Gray, Glacial Silver, Amber Gold
DISPLAY: 5.0 inch, Full HD 1080p Corning® Gorilla® Glass 3
CPU SPEED: Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 processor / 2.5GHz quad-core CPU in Asia/China / 2.3GHz quad-core CPU in US/EMEA
PLATFORM ANDROID: Android™ 4.4 with HTC Sense 6, HTC BlinkFeed
SIM CARD TYPE: nanoSIM
CAMERA: Duo camera. Primary Camera: HTC UltraPixel camera , BSI sensor, pixel size
2.0 um, sensor size 1/3”, ƒ/2.0, 28mm lens. HTC ImageChip 2. 1080p Full HD video recording with HDR video. Secondary camera: capture depth information. Front Camera: 5MP, ƒ/2.0, BSI sensor, wide angle lens with HDR capability, 1080p Full HD video recording Gallery with UFocus, Dimension Plus, Seasons, Foregrounder, Image match.
MEMORY: Total storage: 16GB/32GB, available capacity varies. Expansion card slot supports microSD™ memory card for up to 128GB additional storage (card not included)
RAM: 2 GB DDR3
BATTERY: Embedded rechargeable Li-polymer battery. Capacity: 2600 mAh
Talk time: Up to 20 hours for 3G
Standby time: Up to 496 hours for 3G
Voltage range/frequency: 100 ~ 240 V AC, 50/60 Hz
DC output: 5V and 1.5 A
GPS: Internal GPS antenna + GLONASS, Digital compass
SENSORS: Gyro sensor, Accelerometer, Proximity sensor, Ambient light sensor, Barometer
CONNECTIVITY(3): 3.5 mm stereo audio jack, NFC (3), Bluetooth® 4.0 with aptX™ enabled
Wi-Fi®: IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac (2.4 & 5 GHz) DLNA® for wirelessly streaming media from the
phone to a compatible TV or computer, HTC Connect
Micro-USB 2.0 (5-pin) port with mobile high-definition video link (MHL) for USB or HDMI
connection (Special cable required for HDMI connection.). Support consumer infrared remote control
SOUND ENHANCEMENT: HTC BoomSound, Dual front-facing stereo speakers with built-in
amplifiers, HTC Sense Voice
NETWORK COVERAGE:
2G/ 2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - WCDMA:
EMEA: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps
Sprint: 850/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA up to 14.4 Mbps
Verizon: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps
Tmus: 850/AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
3G - CDMA
Sprint & Verizon: 800/1900 MHz4G - LTE:
EMEA: 800/900/1800/2600 MHz
Asia: 700/900/1800/2100/2600 MHz
AT&T: 700/850/AWS/1800/1900/2600 MHz
Sprint: FDD 800/1900 MHz , TDD 2600 MHz
Verizon: 700/AWS/1800/2600 MHz
T-Mobile: 700/AWS MHz
Dimensions (LxWxT): 146.36 x 70.6 x 9.35 mm
Weight: 160g
So where and when can you buy it? If you're in the USA, you can buy it at a Verizon store today at 1 PM eastern time. Other carriers in the US and Canada will be taking immediate online orders, and by April 10th the phones should be in all North American carrier stores. In London, some retailers will have the phone today as well, and you'll see it pushed out to Europe and Asian markets rapidly in the coming weeks. By the end of April, the HTC One (M8) should be absolutely everywhere.
Please use this thread
HTC M8 announced.
Closed
Hey guys, finally HTC took of the cloth from the M8 and showed us whatever they had under the hood!
So, this thread is basically for your views on HTC ONE (2014). Happy?, Unhappy? Boring?
There is a POLL too..
Please post your answers
SPECIFICATIONS
GENERAL
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 - EMEA, Asia
HSDPA 850 / 1900 / 2100 - AT&T
HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - T-Mobile
4G Network LTE 800 / 900 / 1800 / 2600 - EMEA
LTE 700 / 1700 / 2100 - T-Mobile
LTE 700 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600 - Asia
LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 - AT&T
SIM Nano-SIM
Announced 2014, March
Status Coming soon. Exp. release 2014, April
BODY
Dimensions 146.4 x 70.6 x 9.4 mm (5.76 x 2.78 x 0.37 in)
Weight 160 g (5.64 oz)
DISPLAY
Type Super LCD3 capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size 1080 x 1920 pixels, 5.0 inches (~441 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch Yes
Protection Corning Gorilla Glass 3
- HTC Sense UI v6
SOUND
Alert types Vibration, MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes, with stereo speakers, built-in amplifiers
3.5mm jack Yes
MEMORY
Card slot microSD, up to 128 GB
Internal 16/32 GB, 2 GB RAM
DATA
GPRS Yes
EDGE Yes
Speed HSDPA, 42 Mbps (21 Mbps - AT&T), HSUPA, 5.76 Mbps; LTE, Cat4, 50 Mbps UL, 150 Mbps DL
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, Wi-Fi Direct, DLNA, Wi-Fi hotspot
Bluetooth Yes, v4.0 with A2DP
NFC Yes (market/operator dependent)
Infrared port Yes
USB Yes, microUSB v2.0 (MHL), USB On-the-go, USB Host
CAMERA
Primary Dual 4 MP, 2688х1520 pixels, autofocus, dual-LED (dual tone) flash
Features 1/3'' sensor size, 2µm pixel size, automatic simultaneous video and image recording, geo-tagging, face and smile detection, HDR, panorama
Video Yes, [email protected], [email protected], HDR, stereo sound rec., video stabilization
Secondary Yes, 5 MP, [email protected], HDR
FEATURES
OS Android OS, v4.4.2 (KitKat)
Chipset Qualcomm MSM8974AB Snapdragon 801
CPU Quad-core 2.3 GHz (US/EMEA)/ 2.5 GHz (Asia, China) Krait 400
GPU Adreno 330
Sensors Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Happy about pretty much everything but the huge amount of wasted real estate on the front. It's like my Jewel buy with an extra speaker on the front.
Regardless, I'll be getting one today if the upgrade price is right.
Sent from my EVO using xda premium
NoteboyTech said:
Hey guys, finally HTC took of the cloth from the M8 and showed us whatever they had under the hood!
So, this thread is basically for your views on HTC ONE (2014). Happy?, Unhappy? Boring?
There is a POLL too..
Please post your answers
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This website pre-emptied you. See link on thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51363705
£529.95 sim free from Phones4u... think i'll wait till price drops
Verge Review
http://www.theverge.com/2014/3/25/5544642/htc-one-review-m8
GSMArena review starts positive & then saves its royal kicking until the end. Basically a decent phone let down by a camera that didn't even cut the mustard in 2013 let alone 2014.
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Verge Review
http://www.theverge.com/2014/3/25/5544642/htc-one-review-m8
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This is exactly how I will feel about all new up and coming flagship phones.... Meh... I will definitely bypass this year's new flagship phones.
Sent from my C6833 using Tapatalk
So just like the Samsung s5 only a very small upgrade. It's nice to add a microsd SD slot but seriously the HTC logo is still incredible misplaced.
Also lol at all that fitness crap, since all manufacturers are doing it it seems more like a data fishing attempt. I am 5 times a week in the gym and i know some people nobody uses their smartphone for tracking stuff, 90 percent of the time it's used to replace a mp3 player.
It's really a small and disappointing upgrade no octacore, no 3gb ram and no uhd so far all phones this year seem lackluster.
Samsung Galaxy S7
NETWORK
Technology - GSM / HSPA / LTE
2G bands - GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G bands - HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
4G bands - LTE
Speed - HSPA 42.2/5.76 Mbps, LTE Cat9 450/50 Mbps
GPRS - Yes
EDGE - Yes
LAUNCH
Announced - 2016, February 21
Status - Coming soon. 2016, March 11
BODY
Dimensions - 142.4 x 69.6 x 7.9 mm (5.61 x 2.74 x 0.31 in)
Weight - 152 g (5.36 oz)
Build - Corning Gorilla Glass 5 back panel
SIM - Nano-SIM
- Samsung Pay (Visa, MasterCard certified)
- IP68 certified - dust proof and water resistant over 1.5 meter and 30 minutes
DISPLAY
Type - Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size - 5.1 inches (~72.1% screen-to-body ratio)
Resolution - 1440 x 2560 pixels (~577 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch - Yes
Protection - Corning Gorilla Glass 5
- Always-on display
- TouchWiz UI
PLATFORM
OS - Android OS, v6.0 (Marshmallow)
Chipset - Qualcomm MSM8996 Snapdragon 820
Exynos 8890 Octa
GPU - Adreno 530
Mali-T880 MP12
MEMORY
Card slot - microSD, up to 200 GB
Internal - 32/64 GB, 4 GB RAM
CAMERA
Primary - 12 MP, f/1.7, phase detection autofocus, OIS, LED flash
Features - 1/2.6" sensor size, 1.4 µm pixel size, geo-tagging, touch focus, face detection, Auto HDR, panorama
Video - [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], HDR, dual-video rec.
Secondary - 5 MP, f/1.7, dual video call, Auto HDR
SOUND
Alert types - Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker - Yes
3.5mm jack - Yes
COMMS
WLAN - Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, Wi-Fi Direct, hotspot
Bluetooth - v4.2, A2DP, LE, apt-X
GPS - Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS, BDS
NFC - Yes
Infrared port - Yes
Radio - No
USB microUSB v2.0, USB Host
FEATURES
Sensors - Fingerprint, accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer, heart rate, SpO2
Messaging - SMS(threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Mail, IM
Browser - HTML5
Java - No
- Fast battery charging: 83% in 30 min (Quick Charge 3.0)
- Wireless charging (Qi/PMA) - market dependent
- ANT+ support
- S-Voice natural language commands and dictation
- OneDrive (115 GB cloud storage)
- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
- MP4/DivX/XviD/WMV/H.264 player
- MP3/WAV/WMA/eAAC+/FLAC player
- Photo/video editor
- Document editor
BATTERY
Non-removable Li-Ion 3000 mAh battery
Stand-by
Talk time
MISC
Colors - Black, White, Gold, Silver
Source - GSM Arena
Can anyone confirm infrared is on this phone? And that FM radio is not?
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Can anyone confirm infrared is on this phone? And that FM radio is not?
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If you google it or look at any tech site's list of specs and you'll find that it doesn't have either.
I'm having a difficult time figuring out how the Edge has a 20% larger battery and about 8% larger physical volume than the standard S7, yet the S7 has 97% of the weight of the Edge. The Edge at 157g is decent in terms of weight for a 5.5" device, but the S7 at 152g has somehow managed to become the heaviest S phone yet, even outweighing the physically larger and removable backed S5. Overall the S7 looks great, but the weight is atrocious, almost a full ounce more than my S4. And with the weak looking glass construction, it pretty much means that I'll have to use a case (which the tough polycarbonate body of my 3 year old, 130g S4 has never needed), adding even more weight. Even without a case, the greater mass yields a greater impact when dropped from the same height. When I saw 157g for the Edge, I figured the S7 would weigh in at about 135-140g. What, did they add a chunk of lead inside to make the device feel more substantial? All else being equal, I think lighter weight is always an advantage. I carry my phone in my shirt pocket 98% of the time, and one of the biggest issues I had with the Note 3 I briefly owned was that the weight would practically pull my shirt off. The S7 is closer in weight to the N3 than the S4. Ugh. WTF?
Hopefully T-Mobile will have a 64GB variant. 32GB onboard is an improvement over my S4, but I'd pay more for 64 or 128GB, to go along with my 128GB SD card.
OT: Check this unboxing under water -
https://twitter.com/TMobile/status/701798613169651712
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If you google it or look at any tech site's list of specs and you'll find that it doesn't have either.
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Cool thanks pal for not understanding the word "confirm." And this post literally says it has infrared, hence me wanting confirmation.
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Cool thanks pal for not understanding the word "confirm." And this post literally says it has infrared, hence me wanting confirmation.
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No need to be ugly. The only way to confirm what you want to know is to find explicit statements by Samsung saying that the device doesn't have those features, which they haven't to my knowledge.
CafeKampuchia said:
No need to be ugly. The only way to confirm what you want to know is to find explicit statements by Samsung saying that the device doesn't have those features, which they haven't to my knowledge.
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Wasn't trying to start anything just didn't like how you phrased your post Didn't know if anyone saw something I didn't in any hands on video, or somewhere else. While I'd be surprised if it had IR or FM, it seems like it isn't confirmed either way.
I thought at least FM was making a comeback...
hella356 said:
I'm having a difficult time figuring out how the Edge has a 20% larger battery and about 8% larger physical volume than the standard S7, yet the S7 has 97% of the weight of the Edge. The Edge at 157g is decent in terms of weight for a 5.5" device, but the S7 at 152g has somehow managed to become the heaviest S phone yet, even outweighing the physically larger and removable backed S5. Overall the S7 looks great, but the weight is atrocious, almost a full ounce more than my S4. And with the weak looking glass construction, it pretty much means that I'll have to use a case (which the tough polycarbonate body of my 3 year old, 130g S4 has never needed), adding even more weight. Even without a case, the greater mass yields a greater impact when dropped from the same height. When I saw 157g for the Edge, I figured the S7 would weigh in at about 135-140g. What, did they add a chunk of lead inside to make the device feel more substantial? All else being equal, I think lighter weight is always an advantage. I carry my phone in my shirt pocket 98% of the time, and one of the biggest issues I had with the Note 3 I briefly owned was that the weight would practically pull my shirt off. The S7 is closer in weight to the N3 than the S4. Ugh. WTF?
Hopefully T-Mobile will have a 64GB variant. 32GB onboard is an improvement over my S4, but I'd pay more for 64 or 128GB, to go along with my 128GB SD card.
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I bet it has to do with the water cooling system
se1000 said:
I bet it has to do with the water cooling system
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Isn't that in the Edge, as well? It's perplexing that the 5.1" S7 only weighs a single gram less than the much larger S6 Edge+ with the same size battery. Where is the extra weight coming from? The S7 Edge weights 4g more than the S6 Edge+, despite being smaller, but the significantly larger battery makes this logical. The S6 Edge is 6 grams lighter than the S6, so there appears to be a small weight advantage to the Edge design, but it seems that the S7 should have come in more along the lines of 140-145g. Not a deal breaker for me, but - other than sealed battery - the weight is the biggest negative to me, coming from the wonderfully light S4. I hope I don't find it too annoying.
CLARiiON said:
OT: Check this unboxing under water -
https://twitter.com/TMobile/status/701798613169651712
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Thanks too friggin cool hahahaha gotta love it! :good:
what product name?
Do you still think the V20 is worth getting in 2017 in the context of S8/+ that's here & coming Essential phone, Pixel 2s, Note 8, V30 none of which are expected to have a user replaceable battery it seems (could this be the last high end model with a user replaceable battery after the Samsung Note 4) & its current <$400 price?
So what do you still like about your V20, what don't you like & is there a best model to get for updates or other factors?:good:
My initial impressions/background: I liked the V20 when it first came out for its removable battery, expandable storage, bright IPS sharp display, fingerprint reader & power button in a very sensible location, the secondary screen & IR blaster but didn't think it was worth the $800 price without front facing stereo speakers & wasn't particularly impressed by the cameras especially front facing but now it can be had for <$400 & hate my Nexus 6P battery life at this point while loving my Samsung Note 4 quick swappable battery. I also have a Moto X Pure I got a great deal on ~18 months ago with its great front facing stereo speakers & bright IPS display & expandable storage but it's battery life also is weak without a user replaceable battery.
I will take another look at the V20 at its current price, is there are difference between unlocked http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US996-Unlocked-v20-titan & T-Mobile http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-H918-Titan-v20 (which I could unlock if needed) with warranty & international LG V20 H990DS Unlocked International Model-No Warranty model in terms of updates or other factors because I've read that the Unlocked US996 model has not been getting updates while I'm wondering if the T-Mobile or International gets updates..?
Despite Quad DAC, I was disappointed by the V20 speaker but have since found https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HEYIPGK impressive headphone jack speaker & https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XYBWXG1 cool compact floating bluetooth waterproof speaker that will make it easier to bypass that weakness & could use another phone I have if the front facing camera continues to disappoint. I also saw some impressive V20 video optical image stabilization footage.
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I watched a lot of reviews before getting the v20. Coming from the Note 4 edge I can say I'm happy with it. I just got sick of Samsungs bloatware.
I would say if you're not an audiophile and use your camera in auto mode then there is little going for the v20
k.dos said:
I watched a lot of reviews before getting the v20. Coming from the Note 4 edge I can say I'm happy with it. I just got sick of Samsungs bloatware.
I would say if you're not an audiophile and use your camera in auto mode then there is little going for the v20
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Interesting since I have the Note 4 & love the battery swapability, I'm going to watch more video reviews before a decision. I am an audiophile so its single downward speaker was a deal breaker at it original 2x asking price compared to my Nexus 6P & Moto X Pure front facing stereo speakers but just would likely use external speakers (headphones-bluetooth speakers) with it. I'll test out the camera manual mode features when I take another look, I like options as long as it doesn't take too long to get through them.
Do you have the unlocked or a carrier model-do you care about the updates issue?
If a removable battery is a high priority then the v20 would be worth it on that alone because I think this phone is the last of the removable battery featured in a high end phone. V30 looks to be going the way of the G6.
Really sucks I am disappointed with smart phones trend to go the non-removable, glass enclosed and stupid 30 minute water resistance.
Its an excellent phone and I think it's a better value than the G6 is.
Samsung is just bloated garbage, so much junkware I would not pick an s8. Samsung has this idea that their phones are worth more than the competition and their continued trend of increasing phone prices is something I do not support.
Sent from my LG-H918 using XDA-Developers Legacy app
Another nice feature is the second screen, set it to "always on" (still turns off in your pocket etc) and you can see the time and notifications without having to touch the phone at all.
The v20 is just a bit taller then the Note 4 but slightly thinner, it fits just a well in my hand and feels better due to its all metal back. If you like the size of the Note you'll have no problem with the v20
My biggest complaint is the glass has a slight curve at the top and bottom that make full tempered glass screen proctors nearly impossible. I have noticeable scratches in my screen because I didnt want to use a plastic screen protector!!!
Also the power button on the back to me is a bit weird and I miss the physical home buttons.
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If a removable battery is a high priority then the v20 would be worth it on that alone because I think this phone is the last of the removable battery featured in a high end phone. V30 looks to be going the way of the G6.
Really sucks I am disappointed with smart phones trend to go the non-removable, glass enclosed and stupid 30 minute water resistance.
Its an excellent phone and I think it's a better value than the G6 is.
Samsung is just bloated garbage, so much junkware I would not pick an s8. Samsung has this idea that their phones are worth more than the competition and their continued trend of increasing phone prices is something I do not support.
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I do find it ironic that Samsung moved away from the Note 4's removable battery to subsequently have enclosed battery defects overheat-explode costing them billions which could have been avoided if they just stuck with the removable batteries that had made consumers-power users happy. Also why not just have an Active/Sport model or even Samsung designed cases for those who want manufacture certified water resistance..?
I did know before I got the Nexus 6P that its enclosed battery would cause issues but not as bad or quick as it did which only reinforces my appreciation for removable batteries. I will likely still go through the hassle of replacing its enclosed battery but I've had to carry around and depend on external batteries with a sense of dread over the N6P's degrading internal battery life. I may ask the Essential phone team for example why they & Google no longer care about removable batteries or headphone jacks (is it to conform to Apple proprietary "curator" ways instead of empowering the actual end users)?
I'd be willing to pay the high prices if there weren't such compromises..
k.dos said:
Another nice feature is the second screen, set it to "always on" (still turns off in your pocket etc) and you can see the time and notifications without having to touch the phone at all.
The v20 is just a bit taller then the Note 4 but slightly thinner, it fits just a well in my hand and feels better due to its all metal back. If you like the size of the Note you'll have no problem with the v20
My biggest complaint is the glass has a slight curve at the top and bottom that make full tempered glass screen proctors nearly impossible. I have noticeable scratches in my screen because I didnt want to use a plastic screen protector!!!
Also the power button on the back to me is a bit weird and I miss the physical home buttons.
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I typically use a case (with a lip to protect the screen) like https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N5M72E0 without screen protectors & have never had screen damage. Gorilla glass 4 with case lip not enough?
I like its fingerprint-power button location & hope it will cause less accidental power offs than on sides near volume controls & I haven't personally missed the physical home button. Regarding the kind of control the user has over the secondary screen I found the video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yInN7OV4M3k useful.
When I take another look at the V20 this week I will run through all the options but always appreciate owner experience feedback
So no difference between the US996 Unlocked model vs carrier/T-mobile model in terms of updates (or Wi-Fi Calling calling)?
SMARTPHONEPC said:
I am an audiophile so its single downward speaker was a deal breaker at it original 2x asking price compared to my Nexus 6P & Moto X Pure front facing stereo speakers but just would likely use external speakers (headphones-bluetooth speakers) with it.
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Sorry, but an audiophile would not be interested in the quality of the speakers even if there were two of them.
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I purchased an unlocked G4 which was supposed to have been comparable with all my T-mobile carrier bands. But I later learned in a Redditt post that it in fact was missing an important one which resulted in connectivity problems. So when the prices dropped on the V20, I made sure to get the carrier model. Now I have much better reception as well as Wifi Calling and FM radio, neither of which are available through the unlocked version.
jian said:
Sorry, but an audiophile would not be interested in the quality of the speakers even if there were two of them.
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OK jian I'll let you the true audiophile define what sounds good to me in every practical circumstance.. I'll also give up bluetooth forever only to buy your brand of wired equipment to live in your good graces..
I profusely apologize that I can appreciate handheld dual front facing stereo speakers as offered in my Nexus 6P & Moto X Pure.
Sarcasm aside, I won't make excuses for LGs easily muffled V20's uninspiring single downward firing mono speaker.
BTW, is there a failing speaker issue https://www.google.com/search?q=lg+v20+speaker+issue or is it the speaker grille according to https://android.gadgethacks.com/how...eaker-sound-with-simple-hardware-mod-0176333/ & https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/enable-dual-speaker-stereo-sound-your-lg-v20-0176433/ ?
Lg v20 DS990 is below $400 on ebay. Great price. Standby is amazing, manual mode and audio superb. Battery drains 15% or more per hour with screen on, but batteries are cheap. Auto camera mode is poor, including autofocus. Great build quality, no bootloops. So if you are okay with these things, go for it! It's crazy paying 800 for Samsung, made from effing glass! And this comes with screen protector already applied. Dropped it once with Spiegel cash (must have case), no problems. Phone is fast and I love secondary screen.
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I purchased an unlocked G4 which was supposed to have been comparable with all my T-mobile carrier bands. But I later learned in a Redditt post that it in fact was missing an important one which resulted in connectivity problems. So when the prices dropped on the V20, I made sure to get the carrier model. Now I have much better reception as well as Wifi Calling and FM radio, neither of which are available through the unlocked version.
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Thanks Medevac1 but that's comparing 2 different devices, has anyone compared or experienced the unlocked US996 model vs the T-mobile H918 model on T-Mobile?
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US996-Unlocked-v20-titan
"US996 Unlocked Technical Specifications:
Technology CDMA, WCDMA, GSM, UMTS, LTE
Network CDMA, GSM, LTE Multi-Band/Multi-Mode
Frequencies CDMA 1.9 GHz CDMA PCS/800 MHz CDMA; GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz; LTE Bands 2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/20/25
Data Transmission EVDO, EVDO Rev A, 1xRTT, LTE, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, GSM, HSPA+, HSPA
Connectivity:
4G LTE Network* Yes
Mobile Hotspot** Share a 4G LTE data connection with 8 other compatible wireless devices***
* 4G LTE network not available everywhere
Wi-Fi Calling** Use Wi-Fi to improve voice and data coverage
** Wireless service required. Product features subject to change. Features based on carrier program availability."
Vs.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-H918-Titan-v20
"T-Mobile H918 Technical Specifications:
Technology GSM, LTE, WCDMA
Network GSM, LTE, WCDMA
Frequencies GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz, LTE Bands 2/4/12/66, Roaming 1/3/5/7/13/20, WCDMA Bands B2/B4, WCDMA Roaming B1/B5
Data Transmission GPRS/EDGE/UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/LTE
Connectivity:
T-Mobile 4G LTE Network* Yes
Wi-Fi Calling** Use Wi-Fi to improve voice and data coverage
VoLTE Capability Enables HD Voice****** and enhanced communications over the cellular network***
* T-Mobile’s 4G LTE Network not available everywhere
** T-Mobile Wireless service required. Product features subject to change. Features based on carrier program availability. Additional charges may apply.
*** Depends on network availability.
Where I usually am T-Mobile is best at the moment (speed tested all carriers but not with this device) but that could change over time or obviously when traveling where T-Mobile is far less reliably good so shouldn't I get the unlocked US996 model..?
T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling (& FM radio) can not be enabled in the unlocked US996 model?
herrzeba said:
Lg v20 DS990 is below $400 on ebay. Great price. Standby is amazing, manual mode and audio superb. Battery drains 15% or more per hour with screen on, but batteries are cheap. Auto camera mode is poor, including autofocus. Great build quality, no bootloops. So if you are okay with these things, go for it! It's crazy paying 800 for Samsung, made from effing glass! And this comes with screen protector already applied. Dropped it once with Spiegel cash (must have case), no problems. Phone is fast and I love secondary screen.
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Anyone here in the US using the LG V20 H990DS 64GB Dual Sim, GSM Unlocked International Model, No Warranty model on T-Mobile or any carrier?
SMARTPHONEPC said:
Thanks Medevac1 but that's comparing 2 different devices, has anyone compared or experienced the unlocked US996 model vs the T-mobile H918 model on T-Mobile?
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-US996-Unlocked-v20-titan
"US996 Unlocked Technical Specifications:
Technology CDMA, WCDMA, GSM, UMTS, LTE
Network CDMA, GSM, LTE Multi-Band/Multi-Mode
Frequencies CDMA 1.9 GHz CDMA PCS/800 MHz CDMA; GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz; LTE Bands 2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/20/25
Data Transmission EVDO, EVDO Rev A, 1xRTT, LTE, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, GSM, HSPA+, HSPA
Connectivity:
4G LTE Network* Yes
Mobile Hotspot** Share a 4G LTE data connection with 8 other compatible wireless devices***
* 4G LTE network not available everywhere
Wi-Fi Calling** Use Wi-Fi to improve voice and data coverage
** Wireless service required. Product features subject to change. Features based on carrier program availability."
Vs.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-H918-Titan-v20
"T-Mobile H918 Technical Specifications:
Technology GSM, LTE, WCDMA
Network GSM, LTE, WCDMA
Frequencies GSM 850/900/1800/1900 MHz, LTE Bands 2/4/12/66, Roaming 1/3/5/7/13/20, WCDMA Bands B2/B4, WCDMA Roaming B1/B5
Data Transmission GPRS/EDGE/UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+/LTE
Connectivity:
T-Mobile 4G LTE Network* Yes
Wi-Fi Calling** Use Wi-Fi to improve voice and data coverage
VoLTE Capability Enables HD Voice****** and enhanced communications over the cellular network***
* T-Mobile’s 4G LTE Network not available everywhere
** T-Mobile Wireless service required. Product features subject to change. Features based on carrier program availability. Additional charges may apply.
*** Depends on network availability.
Where I usually am T-Mobile is best at the moment (speed tested all carriers but not with this device) but that could change over time or obviously when traveling where T-Mobile is far less reliably good so shouldn't I get the unlocked US996 model..?
T-Mobile Wi-Fi calling (& FM radio) can not be enabled in the unlocked US996 model?
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Why can't GM radio be enable I think what US unlocked version?
My post was more a comparison of experiences rather than phone to phone. Both the LG 4 unlocked and the V20 were US996 models which were originally designed to work for US Cellular phones. I was just pointing out that given this there are certain trade offs with using these phones on the TMO network.
Pretty sure I'm getting one just because of the replaceable battery.
Just can't decide between the unlocked US version and Verizon version.
LG just announced they were making the bootloader unlock app available for all Unlocked models of those phones.
I think the VZW version may have been updated to eliminate the unlocking capability.
ymDroid said:
Pretty sure I'm getting one just because of the replaceable battery.
Just can't decide between the unlocked US version and Verizon version.
LG just announced they were making the bootloader unlock app available for all Unlocked models of those phones.
I think the VZW version may have been updated to eliminate the unlocking capability.
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Wait really? so that means i can root my sprint lg v20 which is on zv6?
kel29738 said:
Wait really? so that means i can root my sprint lg v20 which is on zv6?
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The following phones can now have their bootloader's unlocked by LG unlocking tool.
http://developer.lge.com/resource/mobile/RetrieveBootloader.dev?categoryId=CTULRS0703
• LG G6: US997.USA for the U.S. open market
• LG G6: H870 for the European market
• LG V20: US996.USA for the U.S. open market
• LG V10: H960A for the European market and Android M (Except France)
• LG G5 SE: H840 for the European market
• LG G5: RS988 for the U.S. open market
• LG G5: H850 for the European market
• LG G4: H815 for the European market
So this makes the unlocked version a plus.
Checked out the V20 again Monday night in an AT&T store but only had like 20 minutes where it was next to the G6 & not too far away from the Samsung S8+. Issues I'd like to be able to resolve before hitting a buy button even at this lower price:
1) If I bought the V20 it would be the worst built in speaker I've ever put up with (maybe this unit was defective but I shouldn't assume so). Beyond videos, music however brief, voicecalls, I'd frankly like everything to sound acceptable without external speakers so I'd have to try How To Fix/Improve LG V20 Speaker Sound Quality. That YouTube video unfortunately does not demonstrate before-after, has anyone done this "simple hardware mod" described at https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/improve-your-lg-v20s-speaker-sound-with-simple-hardware-mod-0176333 with what results?
I could comment that the G6 speaker did sound more acceptable in a brief test (but still not impressive) & when I looked at the same downward firing speaker location on the G6 it did not appear to have any or at least the same thick crowded speaker grill that could be muffling the V20 sound so perhaps it could be improved..
2) Screen is too blue as reported at https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/help/color-calibration-screen-to-6504k-v20-t3484489 so I'd have to try https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/themes/arent-satisfied-v20-screen-color-temp-t3492061 - https://forums.androidcentral.com/lg-v20/739129-how-adjustlg-v20-screen-color-calibration.html , has anyone done this?
The AT&T store model does not let me get into settings so as is the V20 screen was not as good as my Moto X Pure (colors or brightness) but the V20's brightness spectrum seemed acceptable & hopefully the aforementioned color adjustment can be improved while my Nexus 6P whites are comparatively yellowish. The Samsung S8+ colors & brightness were impressive but still didn't feel the need to get it overall especially without a removable battery.
SMARTPHONEPC said:
Checked out the V20 again Monday night in an AT&T store but only had like 20 minutes where it was next to the G6 & not too far away from the Samsung S8+. Issues I'd like to be able to resolve before hitting a buy button even at this lower price:
1) If I bought the V20 it would be the worst built in speaker I've ever put up with (maybe this unit was defective but I shouldn't assume so). Beyond videos, music however brief, voicecalls, I'd frankly like everything to sound acceptable without external speakers so I'd have to try How To Fix/Improve LG V20 Speaker Sound Quality. That YouTube video unfortunately does not demonstrate before-after, has anyone done this "simple hardware mod" described at https://android.gadgethacks.com/how-to/improve-your-lg-v20s-speaker-sound-with-simple-hardware-mod-0176333 with what results?
I could comment that the G6 speaker did sound more acceptable in a brief test (but still not impressive) & when I looked at the same downward firing speaker location on the G6 it did not appear to have any or at least the same thick crowded speaker grill that could be muffling the V20 sound so perhaps it could be improved..
2) Screen is too blue as reported at https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/help/color-calibration-screen-to-6504k-v20-t3484489 so I'd have to try https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/themes/arent-satisfied-v20-screen-color-temp-t3492061 - https://forums.androidcentral.com/lg-v20/739129-how-adjustlg-v20-screen-color-calibration.html , has anyone done this?
The AT&T store model does not let me get into settings so as is the V20 screen was not as good as my Moto X Pure (colors or brightness) but the V20's brightness spectrum seemed acceptable & hopefully the aforementioned color adjustment can be improved while my Nexus 6P whites are comparatively yellowish. The Samsung S8+ colors & brightness were impressive but still didn't feel the need to get it overall especially without a removable battery.
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ymDroid posted about https://flash.newegg.com/Product/9SIAAM853A4091 where you can see the potentially sound muffling speaker grill in question that owners have removed as detailed above, close ups below:
I can try to install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.lumen on the store demo model for color calibration controls. Even unrooted, I find it worth the install.