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Amazon have release the new fire os 4.0 with the new kindle fire hdx 8.9.
Fire os 4.0 is based on android 4.4.
Do you think we will get this update as well?
According to an article over at arstechnica, we will (http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014...k-new-e-reader-beefed-up-hdx-tablet-keyboard/ ).
"Along with the new Fire tablets comes a new version of Amazon's "Fire OS," dubbed 4.0 "Sangria." Sangria is based on Android 4.4 KitKat and has little more than user-experience refinements. These include ASAP (Advanced Streaming and Prediction), which pre-loads content that Amazon predicts the user will play, as well as Smart Suspend, which detects when the tablet is not in use and turns off the Wi-Fi to save battery. The new version of the OS will ship on all 4th-generation Fire tablets and will be available to 3rd-generation tablets as a free over-the-air software update."
icedtrip said:
According to an article over at arstechnica, we will (http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014...k-new-e-reader-beefed-up-hdx-tablet-keyboard/ ).
"Along with the new Fire tablets comes a new version of Amazon's "Fire OS," dubbed 4.0 "Sangria." Sangria is based on Android 4.4 KitKat and has little more than user-experience refinements. These include ASAP (Advanced Streaming and Prediction), which pre-loads content that Amazon predicts the user will play, as well as Smart Suspend, which detects when the tablet is not in use and turns off the Wi-Fi to save battery. The new version of the OS will ship on all 4th-generation Fire tablets and will be available to 3rd-generation tablets as a free over-the-air software update."
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And if you read a little further, it says:
Amazon will continue to offer the Fire HDX 7 for $199, though it will not receive the 4.0 Fire OS update until "later this year."
So hoping that it comes sooner rather than later.
Won't be taking that update most likely. Gotten used to having Google services on my hdx and won't risk losing it until I know for sure if there's root
According to ever article I read, we'll absoultely get it. "In the coming weeks". Exciting!
Usermade89 said:
According to ever article I read, we'll absoultely get it. "In the coming weeks". Exciting!
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You can already get it on the HDX 7.
Read this thread for more info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/general/update-1314-4-1-1-probably-sangria-t2901813
Hello
I just have bought this device which looked great over the internet
But after using it, my old Asus transformer is way better
Is there a way to root this new os is or to use chromecast or to make it just as useful as any other tablet
Sorry to tell you not rootable
mrewen said:
Hello
I just have bought this device which looked great over the internet
But after using it, my old Asus transformer is way better
Is there a way to root this new os is or to use chromecast or to make it just as useful as any other tablet
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Fire os 4.x is not rootable, while 3.x is. BTW, bootloader of this device is locked, and the unblock method has been discovered but won't be released for legal issues.
You can contact Amazon to rollback to 3.x to get rooted.
I wonder if we have any chance to get root on new 4.5.2 without roll back?
The waiting game
veaceslav said:
I wonder if we have any chance to get root on new 4.5.2 without roll back?
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Its going to be a waiting game buddy...my kindle is sat in a drawer with my older tablets,pads and phones doing nothing but gathering dust till a forum notification pops up saying "look what I have done" and we all bow down before him/her.......seems like I wasted money on this ****ty thing though and an option of rollback os would be nice. :crying:
Why did you buy it in the first place? The only reason for purchasing a Kindle is to take advantage of Amazon Prime content. That stuff is not available on any other tablet. Amazon Instant Video, alone, makes the Kindle a great tablet if (again) you are a member of Amazon Prime. If not, the Nexus is a far superior tablet.
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Did you try the built-in screen cast? Works perfectly with my Roku.
Hear ye Hear ye
Thanks to the poster above, totally agree on the Prime.
The only thing that irks me on the Kindle is Amazons much smaller app and often out dated selection compared to google / other stores.
I got boned into the 4.5.2 update, can you confirm this cannot be rolled back by Amazon Support.
I started with 4.2.0 on this Saturn so I think I was boned to begin with.
Strapples said:
Thanks to the poster above, totally agree on the Prime.
The only thing that irks me on the Kindle is Amazons much smaller app and often out dated selection compared to google / other stores.
I got boned into the 4.5.2 update, can you confirm this cannot be rolled back by Amazon Support.
I started with 4.2.0 on this Saturn so I think I was boned to begin with.
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Many (if not most) GPlay apps work fine on the Kindle with sideloading. As far as I know Amazon will not roll back updates. Suppose they would. Do you really want to go from Kit-Kat back back to (I'm not certain) Ice-Cream-Sandwich (possibly with some leftover Gingerbread)?
I would like to root this device. The reason is that I want to use the Google Now launcher. It actually works fine now except that it cannot be set as a permanent default. I also want to install BubbleUPnP. Bubble works but the paid license requires GPlay. However, there is no way in hell that I would roll back my O/S to do so.
Doesn't look like there's many custom roms for this device. Black Friday 4g £119 couldn't resist the spec
May be a long wait for the next exploit.
Just out of curiosity, can anyone point me in the direction of a good tutorial on using another ROM slot?
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Why did you buy it in the first place? The only reason for purchasing a Kindle is to take advantage of Amazon Prime content. That stuff is not available on any other tablet. Amazon Instant Video, alone, makes the Kindle a great tablet if (again) you are a member of Amazon Prime. If not, the Nexus is a far superior tablet.
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Did you try the built-in screen cast? Works perfectly with my Roku.
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Well I bought it for its superior specs and cheap price I didnt know that itd thst limited also I thought it was rootable :/
Regarding roku, you know misery loves company, I bought google chromecast with my kindle so I am suffering to get it working
Thanks for your reply
Why did you buy it in the first place? The only reason for purchasing a Kindle is to take advantage of Amazon Prime content. That stuff is not available on any other tablet.
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I have to disagree with that statement. I subscribe to Amazon Prime and I can watch my vids on anything with a browser just so long as I'm within the UK.
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I have to disagree with that statement. I subscribe to Amazon Prime and I can watch my vids on anything with a browser just so long as I'm within the UK.
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That works im the rest of Europe too, at least in germany... And no, amazon prime is not the only reason to buy a quadcore fullhd 7" tablet for around 130 euros... My NAS has much better content than amazon prime Video.. So i use kodi to watch movies, not the Browser...
The Hardware is great, after really bypassing the bootloader issue, i am sure lollipop is just around the corner and we will get a real good device with recent and usable OS...
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Well, at least I won my tablet, would definitely go for nexus, if I had choice.
I'm not a gamer, but still miss some pure Android features...
@openWeb74 - I can't view my Amazon Prime video in the Republic of Ireland which is a bit odd considering Amazon has various offices & distribution centres here. I've tried changing my location .. probably some bureaucracy or tax issue
Suppose I could try a proxy or vpn. Any suggestions?
Play Store, sideloading
Hi guys,
Has anyone had luck with side loading gaps on 4.5.2 on 3 gen fire HDX 7?
I have tried to install basicly all versions of Playstore, play services and google framework but store still not working
PS: i am able to add google account and gmail works, but play store won't connect
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Hi guys,
Has anyone had luck with side loading gaps on 4.5.2 on 3 gen fire HDX 7?
I have tried to install basicly all versions of Playstore, play services and google framework but store still not working
PS: i am able to add google account and gmail works, but play store won't connect
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Unfortunately the play store will not work without root. You can however pull some play store apps off a device that has a working version of google play and side load them onto the kindle hdx. I have been testing this recently and a good number of my apps work but unfortunately some do not.
Your card,residential address and location (determined via IP address) will be the factor for availability or unavailability of videos.
Every site of Amazon has geographical restriction, be it .UK .COM or .De
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alib_15 said:
@openWeb74 - I can't view my Amazon Prime video in the Republic of Ireland which is a bit odd considering Amazon has various offices & distribution centres here. I've tried changing my location .. probably some bureaucracy or tax issue
Suppose I could try a proxy or vpn. Any suggestions?
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Does having fulfilment centers and / or offices determine the content availability ?
Well they are for physical items not digital content and if you ate a member of this forum then you can understand the digital age access, licensing, encryption and tracking mechanisms as well
VPN can help you.
awinston said:
Unfortunately the play store will not work without root. You can however pull some play store apps off a device that has a working version of google play and side load them onto the kindle hdx. I have been testing this recently and a good number of my apps work but unfortunately some do not.
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That is what i was afraid of: no root - no store...
Sideloading from other device works well on other hand so not that big problem - not that comfortable but works
Thanks for clarifying it for me!
PS: In case someone needs some guidance with whole produre of sideloading and list of GApps working without root i found great post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58475282&postcount=72
someone with 4.5.2 on hdx 8.9 can post the file produced by
adb shell dmesg > dmesg.4.5.2.log?
thankou
dpeddi said:
someone with 4.5.2 on hdx 8.9 can post the file produced by
adb shell dmesg > dmesg.4.5.2.log?
thankou
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I would, but I have the 7" running 4.5.3.
Could someone help me understand some of the Kindle lingo? When folk refer to Thor and Apollo are they referring to the bootloader firmware?
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I would, but I have the 7" running 4.5.3.
Could someone help me understand some of the Kindle lingo? When folk refer to Thor and Apollo are they referring to the bootloader firmware?
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That refers to the model.
7" is Thor
8.9" is Apollo
New 8.9" is Saturn
I am thinking about replacing an old tablet with an Amazon Fire HD 10, but I am a little confused about the Fire OS, and the tablet not having Google Play. How does Fire OS relate to the family of Android OS's? Does the Fire OS update as often or keep pace with the Android OS's?
I use Google Play for all my apps, how would I get Google Play and the other Google apps on an Amazon Fire HD 10? Does the Amazon Fire HD 10 need to be rooted to get the Google apps on the tablet? Do Google apps run well on an Amazon Fire 10?
Thanks for any insight on the Amazon Fire HD 10.
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I am thinking about replacing an old tablet with an Amazon Fire HD 10, but I am a little confused about the Fire OS, and the tablet not having Google Play. How does Fire OS relate to the family of Android OS's? Does the Fire OS update as often or keep pace with the Android OS's?
I use Google Play for all my apps, how would I get Google Play and the other Google apps on an Amazon Fire HD 10? Does the Amazon Fire HD 10 need to be rooted to get the Google apps on the tablet? Do Google apps run well on an Amazon Fire 10?
Thanks for any insight on the Amazon Fire HD 10.
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Nope, all Google apps run well without root. But, obviously to get it like normal Android, you would need root. Also, the Fire OS does NOT keep pace at all. It is 5.1.1, and still hadn't got 2018 security patches. Got to go now, will explain more later.
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Nope, all Google apps run well without root. But, obviously to get it like normal Android, you would need root. Also, the Fire OS does NOT keep pace at all. It is 5.1.1, and still hadn't got 2018 security patches. Got to go now, will explain more later.
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Thanks for that info. It really helps.
migoblu said:
I am thinking about replacing an old tablet with an Amazon Fire HD 10, but I am a little confused about the Fire OS, and the tablet not having Google Play. How does Fire OS relate to the family of Android OS's? Does the Fire OS update as often or keep pace with the Android OS's?
I use Google Play for all my apps, how would I get Google Play and the other Google apps on an Amazon Fire HD 10? Does the Amazon Fire HD 10 need to be rooted to get the Google apps on the tablet? Do Google apps run well on an Amazon Fire 10?
Thanks for any insight on the Amazon Fire HD 10.
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I would suggest it 100%. Unless you are in a rush to replace your older tablet, though, I'd just keep my eyes peeled for a sale since they have come down to a $100 a couple of times- but you have to act fast when they do cuz they don't stay around long. I actually prefer it to my Samsung Tablet. Getting the Google Play Store on it is easy and it's fairly simple to root and disable some of the bloatware, though it's not necessary. With Launcher Hijack you can get your preferred Android layout if the Fire Launcher isn't jiving with you (it doesn't with most)
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I would suggest it 100%. Unless you are in a rush to replace your older tablet, though, I'd just keep my eyes peeled for a sale since they have come down to a $100 a couple of times- but you have to act fast when they do cuz they don't stay around long. I actually prefer it to my Samsung Tablet. Getting the Google Play Store on it is easy and it's fairly simple to root and disable some of the bloatware, though it's not necessary. With Launcher Hijack you can get your preferred Android layout if the Fire Launcher isn't jiving with you (it doesn't with most)
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Thanks, it seems like a good tablet from what I've seen. Thanks for the input.
I'm debating on picking up the Fire HD 10 2021 edition during Prime Day sale. Are there ways to put actual android OS rom on it or just adding Play store, google services and stuff with the toolkit. Typically I'd try to do more research but time is a bit limited on the sale so any help would be appreciated. I use to flash roms on phones in the past and just curious if there is any support or ability to do that with the Fire HD tablets. Thanks in advance!
GeekyWilliam said:
I'm debating on picking up the Fire HD 10 2021 edition during Prime Day sale. Are there ways to put actual android OS rom on it or just adding Play store, google services and stuff with the toolkit. Typically I'd try to do more research but time is a bit limited on the sale so any help would be appreciated. I use to flash roms on phones in the past and just curious if there is any support or ability to do that with the Fire HD tablets. Thanks in advance!
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Here's the thing with loading custom roms on any 2019 or newer fire tablet nowadays. No one's been able to find any exploits on the tablets because Amazon has been cracking down on the MediaTek exploits that we would usually be able to use. Especially with the newer OS, I really don't think that anyone will find anything that they can do with unlocking the bootloader and flashing a new ROM since it's basically all been patched.
In terms of Google Play Services and apps, I haven't tried this on the HD 10 2021, but it is most likely possible because I use them just fine on my HD 8 Plus 2020 running the same operating system. So Google Play Store is (most likely) achievable. Hope this helps!
Are the Amazon Fire tablets rootable at all? Able to Magisk? I would like to get into rooting and was hopping we could with this device
Galaxy-Geek#1 said:
Are the Amazon Fire tablets rootable at all? Able to Magisk? I would like to get into rooting and was hopping we could with this device
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Well, yes and no. I know that sounds pretty vague, but it's because it really depends on the tablets.
So recently, people haven't been able to find any exploits that will give them root access to newer tablets, and without an unlockable bootloader, Magisk is definitley out of the question.
On some of the older tablets, as you probably have already seen, there are unlockable bootloaders, but this involves a lot of work to the tablet in terms of software and it isn't as simple as a command like "fastboot oem unlock" (unfortunately).
Basically, I don't think that root will be possible on the HD 10 2021, or at least anytime soon, because the rooting on the older tablets were done by finding exploits in the CPU and Preloader, and then using those exploits to use a hacked bootloader and recovery, and then those would patch the OS to allow you to mod those as much as possible, including giving you the ability to root. Amazon has patched these exploits and no one has been able to use one of the more popular "temporary" root solutions (mtk-su) with the newer tablets since the 2019 HD 10.
So, for now at least, you'll be out of luck.
GeekyWilliam said:
I'm debating on picking up the Fire HD 10 2021 edition during Prime Day sale. Are there ways to put actual android OS rom on it or just adding Play store, google services and stuff with the toolkit. Typically I'd try to do more research but time is a bit limited on the sale so any help would be appreciated. I use to flash roms on phones in the past and just curious if there is any support or ability to do that with the Fire HD tablets. Thanks in advance!
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Did you buy that Fire? I did. Then I immediately ran Fire Toolox (https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/windows-tool-fire-toolbox) to make it run like normal Android.
One thing you'll find is that, even though you're able to install the Play Store and do a few more things with the ToolBox, any Amazon tablet running their Fire OS 7.x.x.x versions won't be able to do much with Google apps having to do with communications, that use push notifications (such as Hangouts or Chat). Something likely to do with how Google Play Services is working or interacting with Fire OS. It just won't allow it to work.
I've got Google Chat installed on my 2019 9th gen HD 10 and it had been able to be used to read and respond to received posts, just no notifications on incoming (I relied on another straight Android device for alerts). But sometime in the past two weeks an update to either Chat or (probably) Play Services occurred that makes Chat immediately close when I attempt to open an existing conversation. Bad news since Google is finally announcing the impending shutdown of the IM portion of Hangouts. Hoping to find out more about that on this forum.
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Did you buy that Fire? I did. Then I immediately ran Fire Toolox (https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/windows-tool-fire-toolbox) to make it run like normal Android.
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Did same
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Did same
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This is not an option anymore to disable ads on the lockscreen??
Can someone please explain to me what people mean when they mention "burning fuses on update" with regard to the Fire 10, 11th Gen? I have never heard the term with regard to Android or device updates.
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Can someone please explain to me what people mean when they mention "burning fuses on update" with regard to the Fire 10, 11th Gen? I have never heard the term with regard to Android or device updates.
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i have only heard that they did this on firestick4k to block the mediatek access to the bootrom. But this should explain it...
Amazon blows eFuse on Fire TV Stick to prevent downgrading to old interface
The new Fire TV interface is currently rolling out to most Fire TV models via the latest operating system update. While there has never been an official way to roll back a Fire TV software update, Amazon seems to especially want the new interface update to be a one-way path.
www.aftvnews.com
Michajin said:
i have only heard that they did this on firestick4k to block the mediatek access to the bootrom. But this should explain it...
Amazon blows eFuse on Fire TV Stick to prevent downgrading to old interface
The new Fire TV interface is currently rolling out to most Fire TV models via the latest operating system update. While there has never been an official way to roll back a Fire TV software update, Amazon seems to especially want the new interface update to be a one-way path.
www.aftvnews.com
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Thanks for the information. Now I understand but there is nothing in the article about Fire tablets. I asked the question before about rolling back the Fire 10, 11th gen OS and I got a response about blowing fuses but nothing more and no explanation.
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Thanks for the information. Now I understand but there is nothing in the article about Fire tablets. I asked the question before about rolling back the Fire 10, 11th gen OS and I got a response about blowing fuses but nothing more and no explanation.
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Amazon pretty much uses the same for both tablets and their fire tv stuff. I don't think there are any efuses blown on the tablets, but they removed all options to do it. The mediatek bootrom was the latest exploit on most devices and the bootrom was disabled to access after 2020.
I was thinking of the possibility of rolling back the fie ware pre 7.3.26 to get around some of the restrictions.
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I was thinking of the possibility of rolling back the fie ware pre 7.3.26 to get around some of the restrictions.
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How?