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Right now I'm on 7.0 DP5, unencrypted with root. I'm willing to enable encryption if it means I won't have to constantly manually flash the security updates and keep root. Is that what the "system-less root" technique is for? (and is it still a thing?)
Should I use the lastest TWRP 3.0.2-2 to flash N factory images? I'm guessing 3.0.2-1 bug is less serious now that there's a vendor.img available, but the last I had read from the dev team was that -2 was still untested and 3.0.2-0 was still the safest bet. I'm just not sure it's compatible with N?
EvanVanVan said:
Right now I'm on 7.0 DP5, unencrypted with root. I'm willing to enable encryption if it means I won't have to constantly manually flash the security updates and keep root. Is that what the "system-less root" technique is for? (and is it still a thing?)
Should I use the lastest TWRP 3.0.2-2 to flash N factory images? I'm guessing 3.0.2-1 bug is less serious now that there's a vendor.img available, but the last I had read from the dev team was that -2 was still untested and 3.0.2-0 was still the safest bet. I'm just not sure it's compatible with N?
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You can't have root or custom recovery and take OTAs, but you can have an unlocked bootloader. Otherwise stock only. I am pretty sure systemless appeared when people were trying to keep using Android Pay. As for TWRP, I have had no problems using the latest, just don't restore / backup between MM and N.
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ultyrunner said:
You can't have root or custom recovery and take OTAs, but you can have an unlocked bootloader. Otherwise stock only. I am pretty sure systemless appeared when people were trying to keep using Android Pay. As for TWRP, I have had no problems using the latest, just don't restore / backup between MM and N.
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If you are rooted and have TWRP installed, you can use FlashFire to install the OTA and keep root and your custom recovery.
+1 Flashfire
Cool thanks for the suggestion, I actually saw something about FlashFire this morning but haven't had a chance to look into it yet. Do I need to be encrypted for it to work? And I'm assuming it's not entirely compatible with N's update system, it still takes some interaction to flash?
EvanVanVan said:
Cool thanks for the suggestion, I actually saw something about FlashFire this morning but haven't had a chance to look into it yet. Do I need to be encrypted for it to work? And I'm assuming it's not entirely compatible with N's update system, it still takes some interaction to flash?
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The other issue with TWRP was backing up and restoring the EFS partition, it seemed that 3.0.2-1 corrupted it on restore which would be a problem. They did have a work around. They suggested using -0 would be fine. I have -2 and did a N to N restore with no issue, but I did not restore EFS. I'm always extra careful with new versions, I tend to backup my data and backups off-phone just in case.
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If you are rooted and have TWRP installed, you can use FlashFire to install the OTA and keep root and your custom recovery.
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My situation is that my 6p is rooted , TWRP installed and with custom kernel. I have searched quite a bit and cannot make sure which is the best way to update from MM to N. My thought is that:
1. FlashFire wipe system data n cache;
2. FlashFire MM stock boot image;
3. FlashFire N ota;
4. FlashFire custome kernel; and
5. Reboot.
The above steps to be done in one sequency. Please comment n million thanks.
CK
smallvan said:
My situation is that my 6p is rooted , TWRP installed and with custom kernel. I have searched quite a bit and cannot make sure which is the best way to update from MM to N. My thought is that:
1. FlashFire wipe system data n cache;
2. FlashFire MM stock boot image;
3. FlashFire N ota;
4. FlashFire custome kernel; and
5. Reboot.
The above steps to be done in one sequency. Please comment n million thanks.
CK
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Put this in wrong thread and want to delete it.
That's a bit too complicated. Connect your phone to a Mac. Open a terminal and
adb devices (To see if your phone is recognized. If so continue, if not fix and then continue)
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot reboot bootloader
fastboot flash system.img
fastboot flash recovery stockrecovery.img
fastboot reboot
That should unroot your device.
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Put this in wrong thread and want to delete it.
That's a bit too complicated. Connect your phone to a Mac. Open a terminal and
adb devices (To see if your phone is recognized. If so continue, if not fix and then continue)
fastboot flash boot boot.img
fastboot reboot bootloader
fastboot flash system.img
fastboot flash recovery stockrecovery.img
fastboot reboot
That should unroot your device.
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Thanks. And I will have a total experience of returning my 6p back to stock boot, stock recovery n no root. What about vendor.img?
smallvan said:
Thanks. And I will have a total experience of returning my 6p back to stock boot, stock recovery n no root. What about vendor.img?
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You don't need vendor image unless you are flashing a different boot/system from what you currently have. But it also can't hurt as long as it's the correct version.
dratsablive said:
You don't need vendor image unless you are flashing a different boot/system from what you currently have. But it also can't hurt as long as it's the correct version.
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I believe I am looking for a suitable way to upgrade my 6p from MM to N that I have explicitly stated at my wrong thread post. This is absolutely not my intention to return my 6p back to stock of MM. And there is every reason to upgrade to N, thus, vendor.img is no doubt a must for an amateur like me.
Nevertheless, thanks for dratsablive kind suggestions.
Hey guys, so I installed twrp and formatted data, rebooted, installed super su (sr version), and now my phone is decrypted and rooted on 7.1.1 Just passing this along if anyone needs it
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Hey guys, so I installed twrp and formatted data, rebooted, installed super su (sr version), and now my phone is decrypted and rooted on 7.1.1 Just passing this along if anyone needs it
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Screenshots guys
I can confirm CF-Autoroot works without flaws!
I used the Nexus Root Toolkit and that worked a charm, got recovery and root installed easily.
What recovery are you guys using? latest 3.0.2-3?
Krenol said:
What recovery are you guys using? latest 3.0.2-3?
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I'm using 3.0.2-1 but I have heard people say 3.0.2-2 works as well. Hope that helps
does formatting the data is really needed? I tried to flash twrp with everything on stock (encrypted), it works on first boot of twrp but whenever I boot to system then try to boot to twrp, it gives 'No Command' and I have to reflash twrp again :silly:
RonnellTapawan said:
does formatting the data is really needed? I tried to flash twrp with everything on stock (encrypted), it works on first boot of twrp but whenever I boot to system then try to boot to twrp, it gives 'No Command' and I have to reflash twrp again :silly:
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It would seem so. Until I decrypted, I wasn't able to keep it permanently installed.
I can also say that Nexus Root Toolkit worked for me. That's a great app - I suggest using it and helping the developer!
Razeer123 said:
I can also say that Nexus Root Toolkit worked for me. That's a great app - I suggest using it and helping the developer!
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Yeah, it is nice . I just like doing it myself ,though I used the app to flash stock recovery and get the ota.... Speaking of the ota , does anyone else have "android 7.1.1" under about phone ???
I rooted at first with PHH suhide and the only thing I couldn't do was change system files, as expected. Flashed back to stock, updated to dev preview again (clean slate) and installed magisk v8 and root. Everything is working fine and dandy.
Xdevillived666 said:
Yeah, it is nice . I just like doing it myself ,though I used the app to flash stock recovery and get the ota.... Speaking of the ota , does anyone else have "android 7.1.1" under about phone ???
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Yeah, I think everyone have this number. I suppose the x.x.1 means Security Patch number, but I'm not sure.
I'm new to the beta program. What happens if I root and install a custom recovery in this beta version 7.1.1? I assume that I will no longer be able to get future incremental OTA beta updates?
ToothTooth said:
I'm new to the beta program. What happens if I root and install a custom recovery in this beta version 7.1.1? I assume that I will no longer be able to get future incremental OTA beta updates?
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You can. Just before installing , reinstall stock recovery and then install ota or use flash fire
Have any of you been able to use SuHide?
Im just getting a constant bootlogo and no further.
Morning all
Just checking in to say I've been running this 7.1.1 preview for over 24 hours, without so much as a slight hiccup. It's very smooth and fluid. I haven't bothered rooting or anything yet as the phone runs beautifully as is, but no doubt I will tinker when I get back from a short break. Only disappointing thing is android pay not working due to unlocked bootloader
Anyone has no-force decrypt boot img, coz seems like device is encrypted, as Im stuck with TWRP(3.0.2-1) logo
odunke01 said:
Have any of you been able to use SuHide?
Im just getting a constant bootlogo and no further.
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My bad, didnt wait long enough.
Problem is though that we cant seem to keep changes to the /system file on the preview
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/58npsl/71_appears_to_aggressively_fix_errors_to_the/
odunke01 said:
My bad, didnt wait long enough.
Problem is though that we cant seem to keep changes to the /system file on the preview
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/58npsl/71_appears_to_aggressively_fix_errors_to_the/
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What are you using su hide for?
It was for pokemon go.
Although I have reverted to PN on 7.0 as I was having other issues. Root (edit:and recovery) wasn't holding after reboot and my hosts file kept disappearing.
I also missed the night light.
How to update nexus 6P on 7.1.1 to 7.1.2 without loosing my root? Did flash fire work?
Thanks.
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I don't know it can survive an update.. but.
After install a new version it's recommend to preform s factory reset.
So why you don't just upgrade, preform a reset and reroot your device?
Sensitivity said:
I don't know it can survive an update.. but.
After install a new version it's recommend to preform s factory reset.
So why you don't just upgrade, preform a reset and reroot your device?
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I don't want lost all of the data on it.
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Unzip the zip inside the Google factory image and flash the boot, system, vendor.img and root of your choice with twrp. May you have to reflash twrp after first boot, flashify or fastboot, but your data should stay.
Edit: backup with twrp first, so your data isn't lost anyway, remove security like fingerprint, pin and so on before you backup.
Whenever you update or flash a new system image it wipes the system folder on your device; and that's where most root programs are stored. You will lose root no matter what. But it's a good thing that getting root back is as simple as just flashing a zip file.
yogieajuz said:
How to update nexus 6P on 7.1.1 to 7.1.2 without loosing my root? Did flash fire work?
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Yes, use Flashfire, it works flawlessly every time. Just tick system, boot, vendor and you're done. It will re-root (Ever Root) and also preserve your recovery if you opt for that. On the odd occasion you need to update bootloader or radio, just do that separately with fastboot. It makes life so much easier with these monthly security updates across our 4 devices.
Thank you, i will try.
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Hi there XDA, I've recently been having issues with custom roms and random reboots, so I decided to go back to stock. Going back to stock I used fastboot to flash the system and boot images. After some setup I wanted to get root. Instead of there being twrp I ended up with the stock recovery somehow. TWRP 3.1.1 seemed to stick, then I decided to upgrade to the most recent version. And it no longer sticks(TWRP recovery).
I just don't know what to do or what the cause for this to happen may be. My only thought is that I'll have to fastboot flash recovery every time I want to modify something.
Any way you guys would be willing to shed some light on what's going on for me???
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probably since you are not rooted
@dirtyreturn What was said above go grab the latest magisk.zip and have ready in your storage. Then after flashing twrp head into and flash the zip. Should stick from then on I haven't had any issues.
wizardwiz said:
probably since you are not rooted
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Nah, I'm rooted through magisk
Exodusche said:
@dirtyreturn What was said above go grab the latest magisk.zip and have ready in your storage. Then after flashing twrp head into and flash the zip. Should stick from then on I haven't had any issues.
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I don't doubt you, this hasn't happened to me before since owning the device. It just started, like, May 1/2 after flashing stock 8.1 system and boot images.
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dirtyreturn said:
I don't doubt you, this hasn't happened to me before since owning the device. It just started, like, May 1/2 after flashing stock 8.1 system and boot images.
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So your flashing twrp after first boot, rooting and still won't stick?
Exodusche said:
So your flashing twrp after first boot, rooting and still won't stick?
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Like, for two years I've had twrp on this device without any issue. Just all of a sudden after I fastboot flashed system and boot of 8.1 it just does not want to stay put.
dirtyreturn said:
Like, for two years I've had twrp on this device without any issue. Just all of a sudden after I fastboot flashed system and boot of 8.1 it just does not want to stay put.
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Who knows maybe google changed something. Do it my way and you will be fine.
dirtyreturn said:
Like, for two years I've had twrp on this device without any issue. Just all of a sudden after I fastboot flashed system and boot of 8.1 it just does not want to stay put.
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When you flash system and boot images, root is removed. On Oreo, TWRP does not persist without root being maintained. I believe on Nougat or Marshmallow, this was not the case. When you booted into the stock rom, this restored the stock recovery.
Flash TWRP then boot directly into TWRP and flash Magisk. When installing new security patches, boot directly into TWRP and reinstall root.
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any help ?
Hi guys, if I flash the new 3.3.3 which changed how it installs in the system, will I be able to get official Ota as in stock recovery??
Thanks
ujh said:
Hi guys, if I flash the new 3.3.3 which changed how it installs in the system, will I be able to get official Ota as in stock recovery??
Thanks
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No. You'd still upgrade the same way you did before.
hartleyshc said:
No. You'd still upgrade the same way you did before.
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Wiping everything, reflashing official rom and twrp? So what's the meaning of the new twrp feat?
ujh said:
Wiping everything, reflashing official rom and twrp? So what's the meaning of the new twrp feat?
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Normally the way to upgrade as long as you are doing official is to download the OTA and do a local update.
Then install TWRP. I never wipe to upgrade.
tech_head said:
Normally the way to upgrade as long as you are doing official is to download the OTA and do a local update.
Then install TWRP. I never wipe to upgrade.
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OK, since I only had custom roms and twrp and read somewhere that twrp didn't support official Ota I thought that to flash new Ota I had to wipe clean everything and reflash : x
ujh said:
OK, since I only had custom roms and twrp and read somewhere that twrp didn't support official Ota I thought that to flash new Ota I had to wipe clean everything and reflash : x
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No.
If you are on the stock OOS or the Beta OOS as long as you stay on the same stock or beta; you download the OTA and do a local install.
This preserves your data and you only need to install TWRP and Magisk again.
I don't understand people that whine about having to install TWRP or Magisk again since it only takes about 5 minutes to do correctly.
I just do an OTA local install and hook the phone up to my computer and re-install TWRP, etc.
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No.
If you are on the stock OOS or the Beta OOS as long as you stay on the same stock or beta; you download the OTA and do a local install.
This preserves your data and you only need to install TWRP and Magisk again.
I don't understand people that whine about having to install TWRP or Magisk again since it only takes about 5 minutes to do correctly.
I just do an OTA local install and hook the phone up to my computer and re-install TWRP, etc.
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Not whining at all. I said wipe everything, meaning EVERYTHING.
ujh said:
Not whining at all. I said wipe everything, meaning EVERYTHING.
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Sorry, was not talking about you specifically.
Going from a custom ROM to OTA, you do need to wipe.
Going from any ROM to any other ROM, you need to wipe.
you can always "dirty flash" but there is no guarantee for wonky behavior.
On the other hand people want to take the OTA and preserve root.
Rooting take five minute so I don't understand the jumping through hooks to keep root.