I'm looking to buy this phone, but i am wondering which version should i get. I am going to use the phone in the philippines and i would need bands 3,7, and/or 41. Upon checking, the US version has bands 3 and 7. I dont really need the dual sim capability . Should i get the chinese/indian/eu variant instead? Also, where can i get this phone on the chinese market? because some articles say the 6/64gb variant is available for $299.
299$ is the price fixed by LEECO for the USA version (USA base band 4/64 mono sim) sold only at 2th November in USA in a short number of pieces, in bundle with three months free Leeco broadcasting service...(films and series in English?) You can get a better dual sim 6/64 worldwide baseband for less than 350$ everywhere...I should get for this version if I didn't live in Us
Us version:
http://us.lemall.com/us/phone/leeco_le_pro3/index.html
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andy88de said:
299$ is the price fixed by LEECO for the USA version (USA base band 4/64 mono sim) sold only at 2th November in USA in a short number of pieces, in bundle with three months free Leeco broadcasting service...(films and series in English?) You can get a better dual sim 6/64 worldwide baseband for less than 350$ everywhere...I should get for this version if I didn't live in Us
Us version:
http://us.lemall.com/us/phone/leeco_le_pro3/index.html
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Is the international version usable in the us/support the same bands? I would rather have that one. I've seen a few on amazon already.
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andy88de said:
299$ is the price fixed by LEECO for the USA version (USA base band 4/64 mono sim) sold only at 2th November in USA in a short number of pieces, in bundle with three months free Leeco broadcasting service...(films and series in English?) You can get a better dual sim 6/64 worldwide baseband for less than 350$ everywhere...I should get for this version if I didn't live in Us
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Thanks but $299 is already a stretch for me.If i could find the 6/64 or even the 4/64 international version for the same price, I would definitely get that.
Still kinda worried the US version doesnt have band 41, though my carrier uses 3,7, and 41.
I am thinking the dual sim 4/64 version for use in Europe.
I want to ask if the original Rom of this phone have Google play and if is safe?
When I say safe I mean without "backdoors" like other phones I had, oukitel k6000 pro, some Coolpads ets.
I asking just for original rom
The original Rom don't have the gplay store installed, and the software looks and feels safe, if u disable the Chinese bloat on it.
It's however very simple to install Google apps
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the international band is either 4/32G or 6/64 G dual band ( same hardware as the Chinese domestic version). the band support: - see the attached
it comes with English Rom ( not Chinese apps at all) and google play store installed.
There is no international version at all. Only Chinese with worldwide band coverage, but Chinese apps. They don't bother at all and Google not installed. All the Google apps are already on the phone ready to be installed. US version is the only one which will have US bands and English software without Chinese apps. But it will be mono sim therefore the firmware of this version will not be compatible with the Chinese one. All other phones are equipped with no official firmware cooked by the shop that sells them. Some phone has 5.8.18s or 5.8.19s both are probably porting created by sellers from other Leeco firmwares not minded from leeco for the le pro 3...both have some bugs. The only official ROM, waiting the US version, is the Chinese 5.8.17s. Minded for the dual sim phone.
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Speedway and battery test.
It's a great phone
I'm selling it for $530, I'll pay the shipping fee.
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I don't know if I can post it here or not. Mod can remove it if not xD
I'm selling my own Mate 7, 32GB gold, bought in China for 600 bucks rooted and working great.
LTE is not working on NA network.
One dent on top left corner
Comes with a flip case and all accessories.
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What's the model number? L09 or L10 (or something else)?
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What's the model number? L09 or L10 (or something else)?
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TL00
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TL00
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This is a contract model and it works with the China Mobile's Sim card ONLY (or, stays at GSM only using other Sim). There is no way to unlocked the code, and of course, it does not work in NA. Unfortunate to hear.
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This is a contract model and it works with the China Mobile's Sim card ONLY (or, stays at GSM only using other Sim). There is no way to unlocked the code, and of course, it does not work in NA. Unfortunate to hear.
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I thought in one of your other threads you (getmobilephone) mentioned there might eventually be a rom unlocking the LTE for NA is that not the case??? I assume this is only a baseband software lock. Or is there actually a different modem chip?
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I thought in one of your other threads you (getmobilephone) mentioned there might eventually be a rom unlocking the LTE for NA is that not the case??? I assume this is only a baseband software lock. Or is there actually a different modem chip?
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Dear LuckyPunk
For obvious reasons, It is difficult to answer this question. However, let's give you one example here:
LG G3 offers several different models in China market, four models now and three more soon (using Qualcomm 805 instead of 801).
Among them, there are two models featuring Dual-Sim, one is China Mobile version aka D858 (TDD only), one is International version aka D857 (FDD & TDD). D858 is supposed that can only be compatible with China Mobile's TDD-LTE bands; however, by flashing D857'S ROM, D858 can use both FDD and TDD networks.
Two facts from here:
1. Flashing ROM unlocks the additional LTE bands.
2. D858 can support China Mobile and China Unicom's Sim by flashing ROM; however, it does not work with foreign SIM.
Contract-Free version makes things easier. We predict the Chinese and International versions of MT7-TL10 share the identical hardware. Flashing the international ROM very likely will enable the necessary LTE bands to work in NA.
Just an additional note here, the system RAM actually available for use is around 1.6 GB after the system starts, for 3/32 GB version. Think about this fact before you pull the trigger for 2/16 GB version.
Let us know if you have additional questions.
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Does this work on TMobile lte?
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I don't know if I can post it here or not. Mod can remove it if not xD
I'm selling my own Mate 7, 32GB gold, bought in China for 600 bucks rooted and working great.
LTE is not working on NA network.
One dent on top left corner
Comes with a flip case and all accessories.
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Well I was interested but thanks to getmobilephone for letting me know this phone will not work in the UK as it's not unlocked and locked in a Chinese contract. Unless that's not the case and it's unlocked and I can use it in the UK on any sim then I would be interested.
freefrank said:
I don't know if I can post it here or not. Mod can remove it if not xD
I'm selling my own Mate 7, 32GB gold, bought in China for 600 bucks rooted and working great.
LTE is not working on NA network.
One dent on top left corner
Comes with a flip case and all accessories.
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sold out or ?
I got a tl00 from China and I can use all other local network sim in Hong Kong, with 4g and 3g, I can confirm it doesn't have network locked, the network lock policies only apply for usage within China border .
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Hello everyone
I have a question about lte band of Chinese version
On Huawei website, we can see that the mate 7 support FDD LTE band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/20/28. Todays, we can find the Chinese version for sell "limited" to bands 1,3,7.
But what I don't understand if the Chinese version got all band if you use it in another country or does it need a firmware mod to activate the other bands?
I need band 3,7 and 20... Can I buy a Chinese one or not? (2gig/16 would be good)
Thanks
This has been answer in our Q&A thread. Please take a look at recent discussion on this topic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-7/general/wait-compatible-ascend-mate-7-buy-t2899404
Forum member from Switzerland has reported that the Chinese TL10 works flawlessly and we will hear more news from EU user next week.:fingers-crossed:
And we highly recommend 3 GB RAM, or the premium version. You will notice significant difference when opening multiple APPS.
We will post a root instruction for xda community early next week so that it will be a more fun machine to have.
getmobilephone said:
This has been answer in our Q&A thread. Please take a look at recent discussion on this topic.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-7/general/wait-compatible-ascend-mate-7-buy-t2899404
Forum member from Switzerland has reported that the Chinese TL10 works flawlessly and we will hear more news from EU user next week.:fingers-crossed:
And we highly recommend 3 GB RAM, or the premium version. You will notice significant difference when opening multiple APPS.
We will post a root instruction for xda community early next week so that it will be a more fun machine to have.
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Thanks for the answer but I already read theses threads.
But I can't find on these that the Chinese version got all band, not just one or two
Thanks for the help
It may work...
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Hello everyone
I have a question about lte band of Chinese version
On Huawei website, we can see that the mate 7 support FDD LTE band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/20/28. Todays, we can find the Chinese version for sell "limited" to bands 1,3,7.
But what I don't understand if the Chinese version got all band if you use it in another country or does it need a firmware mod to activate the other bands?
I need band 3,7 and 20... Can I buy a Chinese one or not? (2gig/16 would be good)
Thanks
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Hello!
I just came back from a trip to China. Bought my Mate 7 in Shanghai. Its the MT7-UL00 Version.
At the shop they told me it should work in Switzerland. They even installed the Play Store for me (good service).
At the Stop Over in Dubai I had no LTE. So I was a little worried. Now in Switzerland it looks like I have same LTE coverage like I had bevor with my LG G3.
Hope this helps you.
The Kitano
MT7-TL10 Chinese -> European
I just got af Gold Mate 7 (3 bg/32 rom) from China - MT7-TL10.
Its a Chinese version, with Chines text i a few palces (even i chosed Denmark for language) but its also without google or anything - and im living in Europe.
So my question is, how do I get the international version af the software on this phone so I can use it like a normal phone here in Europe?
I would be really thankfull for any help and guidance regarding this issue.
Thank you!
Yep i dreaming of my futur AM7 but for no problem at all like the guaranty, i prefer wait till the european version launch officially. i'm so disappointed the gold version will not sold in europe, oh well the grey/black model will be fine too ^^
the official launch in france will be soon around 12 of november.
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Yep i dreaming of my futur AM7 but for no problem at all like the guaranty, i prefer wait till the european version launch officially. i'm so disappointed the gold version will not sold in europe, oh well the grey/black model will be fine too ^^
the official launch in france will be soon around 12 of november.
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You can already buy at amazon.fr, can't you?
they've been selling it since last week. and they already discounted by 20euro in white version yesterday. (looks like it's back to normal price though)
You can buy it EUR 455.70 at amazon.fr now. price dropping so fast. nobody's buying it?
I bought mine on amazon.fr but I have not yet received
n1ck0 said:
Hello everyone
I have a question about lte band of Chinese version
On Huawei website, we can see that the mate 7 support FDD LTE band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/20/28. Todays, we can find the Chinese version for sell "limited" to bands 1,3,7.
But what I don't understand if the Chinese version got all band if you use it in another country or does it need a firmware mod to activate the other bands?
I need band 3,7 and 20... Can I buy a Chinese one or not? (2gig/16 would be good)
Thanks
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I bought the Gold TL10 version from ebay and had the international rom flashed on it. Works fine although i only get 3g hspa with tmobile (which is still pretty fast).
I want to unlock the 4g lte though like the TL09 versions so i cud see how fast the cat6 realli is. Regardless though, this phone is pretty fast to even be in 3g mode.
Can you buy the 3gb ram version from amazon fr?
Also how does warranty work on amazon fr? I live in the uk.
Thanks
riz157 said:
Can you buy the 3gb ram version from amazon fr?
Also how does warranty work on amazon fr? I live in the uk.
Thanks
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It's amazon so warranty usually good if you buy from them. 3gb ram 2gb of ram wont matter much with the Chipset they are using. Feel confident that 2gb will be enough after all the video tests I have seen on YouTube. The 3gb is only the Chinese model which I would not purchase. Get the European model much safer bet.
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It's amazon so warranty usually good if you buy from them. 3gb ram 2gb of ram wont matter much with the Chipset they are using. Feel confident that 2gb will be enough after all the video tests I have seen on YouTube. The 3gb is only the Chinese model which I would not purchase. Get the European model much safer bet.
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Thanks will keep that in mind.
I had lg g3 which fustrated the hell out of him, even though it had 3gb ram the thing was awful.
AndroiderTL10 said:
I bought the Gold TL10 version from ebay and had the international rom flashed on it. Works fine although i only get 3g hspa with tmobile (which is still pretty fast).
Hey, I have my MT7 brought over from China. I am using it in the Czech Republic on Vodafone network. I can only get 2G connectivity. No 3G or LTE. in the Settings/Roaming Settings, it identifies my SIM card as "2G" only, and I cannot switch on 4G. I have a brand new nano SIM that should work with our local LTE.
My MT7 model MT7-CL00, build number MT7-CL00V100R001C92B120SP07
Any ideas?
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radecek1977 said:
AndroiderTL10 said:
I bought the Gold TL10 version from ebay and had the international rom flashed on it. Works fine although i only get 3g hspa with tmobile (which is still pretty fast).
Hey, I have my MT7 brought over from China. I am using it in the Czech Republic on Vodafone network. I can only get 2G connectivity. No 3G or LTE. in the Settings/Roaming Settings, it identifies my SIM card as "2G" only, and I cannot switch on 4G. I have a brand new nano SIM that should work with our local LTE.
My MT7 model MT7-CL00, build number MT7-CL00V100R001C92B120SP07
Any ideas?
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You should inquiry before purchasing. The CL00 version, aka China TeleCom version, only recognizes their specific SIM, otherwise, locked at GSM only. Choose a reputable seller in the future.
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radecek1977 said:
You should inquiry before purchasing. The CL00 version, aka China TeleCom version, only recognizes their specific SIM, otherwise, locked at GSM only. Choose a reputable seller in the future.
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Yeah I got this as a little gimmick to play with., but it certainly is a disappointment.
Do you think the CL00 version can be loaded with TL10 firmware? I can see CL00 and TL10 differ dramatically in the network and data connectivity support, and TL10 is what I need.
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radecek1977 said:
getmobilephone said:
Yeah I got this as a little gimmick to play with., but it certainly is a disappointment.
Do you think the CL00 version can be loaded with TL10 firmware? I can see CL00 and TL10 differ dramatically in the network and data connectivity support, and TL10 is what I need.
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No. There is no way to unlock the SIM and flashing TL10 ROM will not work either. In addition, CL00 uses an additional chip for CDMA2000, which consumes more batteries (only 2/3 of battery life vs. other versions, stated by HUAWEI's website). If you consider TL10, we have Gold color version in stock.
We cannot help you on this version any more.
Good luck!
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have smae issue indeed ... nothing works with me i don,t thin you can,t convert it
hi to all, i see flosmall and others start to sell chinese version of opo2, what are the differences? i know os is different, but i can install oxygen os to chinese one? there are others hw differences? thanks
Last year I ordered opo from china.You can unlock bootloader & flash oxygen os.All you have to confirm the bands match with the bands available in your country
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You can flash roms, but need to make sure the Bands are supported where you live. For the oneplus one people were able to unlock other bands. Maybe someone can unlock the bands on the Chinese version.
Chinese version is spied by chinese government. International is not.
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Haha
I read somewhere that the Chinese version is not dual sim
ambervals6 said:
Chinese version is spied by chinese government. International is not.
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International is spied on by the American government
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I read somewhere that the Chinese version is not dual sim
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It is dual sim, but apparently only has a single IMEI number, so can not be used with 2 sims outside China. Dual sim phones are pretty standard in China, they wouldn't remove such a key feature for that market.
The difference is the bands, especially 4G, and the OS. You can definitely flash OxygenOS as I have already done it. As for the bands, only time will tell.
source: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/oneplus-2-regional-versions-explained.338780/
The Chinese version is dual sim but only has 1 IMEI number hence outside China only one sim will work.
Can experts find a way to get over the same I know IMEI numbers are unique but there would be a way around it I am sure
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International is spied on by the American government
It is dual sim, but apparently only has a single IMEI number, so can not be used with 2 sims outside China. Dual sim phones are pretty standard in China, they wouldn't remove such a key feature for that market.
The difference is the bands, especially 4G, and the OS. You can definitely flash OxygenOS as I have already done it. As for the bands, only time will tell.
source: https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/oneplus-2-regional-versions-explained.338780/
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https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/oneplus-2-regional-versions-explained.338780/
The Chinese version will have very limited 4G compatibility in Europe and North America. More importantly, it only has one IMEI meaning you will not have dual-SIM capability outside of China. If you like having dual SIMs, do not buy the Chinese version.
So International version has 2 imei and dual sim support ?
Morning all,
Can you tell me what the differences between the Chinese, USA and European versions are likely to be?
I need a new phone so that I can stop using my wife's old iPhone and had planned on getting the Axon 7.
But if the UK release isn't going to be until Q4 then I'd be looking into importing from China but I'd want to know what I'm likely to get.
Cheers, Patrick.
The only different will be LTE bands and Single or Dual SIM shouldn't be much differences between versions.
I would suggest to wait for us release and buy then. English and cheaper price are guaranteed
Will the US version be dual sim?
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There is nothing anywhere that lists specifications indicating that there is any single sim version. If there was one it would surely have been mentioned somewhere but I haven't seen anything.
Ouch! Why will there be a difference?
"China to Get High-End Version of Galaxy S8+ with 6GB RAM & 128GB ROM"
Could it be that the market has more competitive Phone choices?
I was looking for the 128Gb version because I kept seeing it would be released and the only version Tmobile is releasing is the 64Gb version. Seemed odd.
I think its retarded too, they should of just sold one model (6GB RAM/128GB) worldwide. When I had a Mate 9, I had to buy the CHN version for 6/128 compared to the normal 4/64. I might have to do it again if the CHN version supports all of TMO LTE bands. One thing I've experienced with CHN vs US phones is I get better reception with the US version even though the CHN supports all of TMO bands.
It's costs, it's probably cheaper over there, the price increase for 6gb/128gb in the UK would make the S8+ nearly 1000 quid!!!!!
Don't know what's going on... I'm in China and will hopefully grab one once they are up for sale... Worries me that there are no pre orders yet. Also... Needs to have an exact HK variant. If they aren't the same model as the HK variant, then I won't be able to exchange firmware, and then there is no way I will put myself through the torture of a phone without Google.NO WAY! I guess I'd wait until summer to pick up the 4gb version in my home country... Probably the metaphorical smoke will have cleared by then and things will have calmed down a bit to see what battery life is like. Worried I'll purchase another​ battery lemon like what happened to my 6p... Man, that battery died in a year and a bit.
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Ouch! Why will there be a difference?
"China to Get High-End Version of Galaxy S8+ with 6GB RAM & 128GB ROM"
Could it be that the market has more competitive Phone choices?
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Chinese model = no warranty so thats a deal breaker for me
6GB vs 4GB RAM you probably wont notice the difference in real world use
You can buy a 128GB SD card for much less than the difference in RRP between world and chinese models
Finally will the chinese model support the LTE bands required for your region and carrier?
Too many unknowns for me
it my have a global modem that supports all bands (bar cdma in the sd 835). agree, you wont notice much of a difference between 4/6 gb...
Will 6gb affect battery life in a negative way? I still doubt this will happen, but nonetheless, don't mind investigating thoughts on this matter.
Things to remember if you get the CHN version is no warranty, stuck on CHN ROM unless you root and install a different ROM and possible no wifi calling if your US carrier supports it.
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it my have a global modem that supports all bands (bar cdma in the sd 835). agree, you wont notice much of a difference between 4/6 gb...
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Things to remember if you get the CHN version is no warranty, stuck on CHN ROM unless you root and install a different ROM and possible no wifi calling if your US carrier supports it.
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I agree that being stuck on CHN firmware is a horror show if you are not a Mandarin/Chinese language user.
From another perspective, so long as there is a HK firmware for SAME model number, you should be able to change firmware to HK firmware from CHN Firmware using ODIN. Pretty simple process. I have managed to do this on several Samsung phones no worries. Only with the C7 (2016) did I recently come across some weirdness that was solved by an XDA member who prescribed a relatively painless ordering of ODIN processes.
However, Samsung used to have weird China only models that did not have a HK firmware variant... which completely sucked - My Note 4, SN-9108v was a horrible experience due to this firmware and model isolation practice. Also, there are some phones that are only sold in China and only come again with Chinese Firmware (possibly the C9 pro (2017) is an example - can't remember). If Samsung have chosen the same isolationist Chinese model practice for s8, then avoid it like the plague... You'll be buying into a joyless and expensive sans google experience that will only be tolerable with decent Mandarin skills to enjoy the plethora of Chinese app store equivalents to google.
At this stage, I cannot find any reliable links to Chinese and HK model numbers. Perhaps a Chinese based Mandarin XDA user can clarify. I am very interested in preordering this mythical Chinese s8+, but I am not in the industry and am a little time poor in terms of being able to research this. There certainly seems to be very little reputable information (in English) or easily found reputable information (via translate) that details exactly when or how pre-orders in China or HK will operate. Just unsubstantiated re-reported links and news stories about the 6Gb variant and blah blah blah.
Would be really great to hear from someone legitimately more informed than me in this matter.
Cheers!
http://www.samsung.com/sec/smartphones/galaxy-s8-plus-g955/SM-G955NZKESKO/
128gb available in Korea ... interesting. Fingers crossed this type of deal pops up in China (and importantly, HK).
SM-G955NZKESKO/
That is because China has many local brands provide adequate device with only one third price. If you can maximum your specks. You will fail there!
Nope. I'm off the Sammy train. Thinking Xperia xz premium
Read an article that says Samsung is mulling over bringing the 6Gb to the US and other markets besides China / Korea. If this happens I would like to know who made the original not to release in other markets so I can kick then in the nuts.
I don't care if it is 4GB or 6. Just so long as it is NOT Snapdragon. Speed tests seem to already be confirming that the typical $#!++y ram management is still present in the Snapdragon S8 and S8+ phones. Also; If I were to buy the Snapdragon model, I would not be able to activate mobile hot spot on Cricket. You can with International phones (Exynos).
I wonder how much extra battery the 6gb version uses. I remember the ram upgrade ont he Uni used to eat battery.
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I wonder how much extra battery the 6gb version uses. I remember the ram upgrade ont he Uni used to eat battery.
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I have 6gb ram 955N and battery is fine ^^
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http://www.samsung.com/sec/smartphones/galaxy-s8-plus-g955/SM-G955NZKESKO/
128gb available in Korea ... interesting. Fingers crossed this type of deal pops up in China (and importantly, HK).
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oh man reading the specs this has all global LTE bands activated including the infamous European BAND 20 that most Asian variants have traditionally not supported!
may get my korean mate to buy over there and bring over. the korean rom will have english as an option as well as play store
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I wonder how much extra battery the 6gb version uses. I remember the ram upgrade ont he Uni used to eat battery.
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oh man reading the specs this has all global LTE bands activated including the infamous European BAND 20 that most Asian variants have traditionally not supported!
may get my korean mate to buy over there and bring over. the korean rom will have english as an option as well as play store
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Yes, if you know an app which can see band avaible, i could see you.
For the GPS : yes it do glonass/beido/ and galileo ^^
Fast phone.
androidrouen said:
Yes, if you know an app which can see band avaible, i could see you.
For the GPS : yes it do glonass/beido/ and galileo ^^
Fast phone.
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that link lists all the supported bands under spec. goggle translate teh page on chrome and go down to full specs