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Will Korea version of V20 be usable outside Korea?

I plan for vacation in South Korea next month and I assume the device will be available there and I plan to buy it there.
But I heard issues that smartphone bought in South Korea cannot be used in other country. Is that true?
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simorangkir_dcs said:
But I heard issues that smartphone bought in South Korea cannot be used in other country. Is that true?
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I don't know about that, but here are some things to consider:
1) Make sure that it has all the bands for your other country carrier
2) At least in the USA, the V20 is expected to be available only through the carriers (E.g. T-Mobile, AT&T) and without a general unlocked version that works with all the supported carriers. That means that a Korean phone may not have specific software for USA such as VoLTE and VoWiFi.
I would recommend getting the V20 version from/for the carrier you plan to use it on unless you can verify all the other carrier's features are supported using the Korean version.

haris163 said:
I don't know about that, but here are some things to consider:
1) Make sure that it has all the bands for your other country carrier
2) At least in the USA, the V20 is expected to be available only through the carriers (E.g. T-Mobile, AT&T) and without a general unlocked version that works with all the supported carriers. That means that a Korean phone may not have specific software for USA such as VoLTE and VoWiFi.
I would recommend getting the V20 version from/for the carrier you plan to use it on unless you can verify all the other carrier's features are supported using the Korean version.
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B&H Photo/Video typically sells unlocked flagship phones that work with US GSM Networks (AT&T/T-Mobile & the MVNO's that operate on their networks).
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/buy/smartphones/ci/24039/N/3955685938
I wouldn't rule out the possibility,unless you're using VZW or Sprint as your service provider.

all Korean phones are unlocked internationally, just locked region. if you buy kt you cant use it on sk or LG U+. i made sure when i bought the lg v20 because ill be in the Philippines for vacation. KT phones seem to always work with AT&T

What bands for each of the big 4 providers?

Anyone know for sure what bands each will have? I know the unlocked will have them all. Will every US version have all of the bands as well? Researching online for some reason right now is not giving me any info. The FCC filling for the unlocked U version is all I've found so far after a day of searching online.
http://www.androidguys.com/2017/03/...s-pass-through-the-fcc-supports-all-carriers/

I think I may have finally figured it out. Samsung hopefully did what moto and apple and nexus has done for years and made them all universal. I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this all before but here is what info I'm going off.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/phones/galaxy-s/s/_/n-10+11+hv1rp+zq1xa/
T-Mobile
SM-G950UZKATMB
Verizon
SM-G950UZKAVZW
Sprint
SM-G950UZKASPR
AT&T
SM-G950UZKAATT
So the carrier versions are all the same just a different bloat package on all 4.
When an unlocked one arrives again the only difference might be less bloat.
This could be really good news for people who don't like contacts like myself.
Maybe faster updates from Samsung? I mean they can't possibly get slower than they already are can they?

They didn't. I have inside info from Samsung that it's the same as the GS7. They just changed the model numbering scheme to be more universally discernible. I was hoping for one phone with carrier customization but nope... they again made it impossible to get all features and bands on a different carrier.
The good news is the Verizon model doesn't have carrier branding any longer. I confirmed that today by unboxing an actual retail model.
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sillyphillie said:
They didn't. I have inside info from Samsung that it's the same as the GS7. They just changed the model numbering scheme to be more universally discernible. I was hoping for one phone with carrier customization but nope... they again made it impossible to get all features and bands on a different carrier.
The good news is the Verizon model doesn't have carrier branding any longer. I confirmed that today by unboxing an actual retail model.
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So when do they finally release what bands each carrier model supports? Seems odd that no info exists on the phones releasing in 3 weeks. The unlocked model has all its bands published online but no official release date.

I'm curious to know if the Verizon model is the same as the unlocked one.

954wrecker said:
Anyone know for sure what bands each will have? I know the unlocked will have them all. Will every US version have all of the bands as well? Researching online for some reason right now is not giving me any info. The FCC filling for the unlocked U version is all I've found so far after a day of searching online.
http://www.androidguys.com/2017/03/...s-pass-through-the-fcc-supports-all-carriers/
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If you get it unlocked, insert a different carrier's sim, factory reset and it will boot with the splash screen and preinstalled apps of the carrier. I've seen the Att to Tmobile and verizon to att swap

That's interesting . I will try that when I get it. But I'm not sure that would effect the boot logo? I'm imagining it would stay the same, no?
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954wrecker said:
I think I may have finally figured it out. Samsung hopefully did what moto and apple and nexus has done for years and made them all universal. I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this all before but here is what info I'm going off.
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/phones/galaxy-s/s/_/n-10+11+hv1rp+zq1xa/
T-Mobile
SM-G950UZKATMB
Verizon
SM-G950UZKAVZW
Sprint
SM-G950UZKASPR
AT&T
SM-G950UZKAATT
So the carrier versions are all the same just a different bloat package on all 4.
When an unlocked one arrives again the only difference might be less bloat.
This could be really good news for people who don't like contacts like myself.
Maybe faster updates from Samsung? I mean they can't possibly get slower than they already are can they?
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Did You check AT&T or T-Mobile have cdma support if they do they you are right if they don't may be carrier are going to release updates

sillyphillie said:
They didn't. I have inside info from Samsung that it's the same as the GS7. They just changed the model numbering scheme to be more universally discernible. I was hoping for one phone with carrier customization but nope... they again made it impossible to get all features and bands on a different carrier.
The good news is the Verizon model doesn't have carrier branding any longer. I confirmed that today by unboxing an actual retail model.
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I think your wrong. If you go check tmobiles website the software version is G950USQU1AQC9. There is nothing mentioning tmobile specifically there. I think that they will all come with carrier animation BUT be uninstallable.

I would hope so but I received this info from a Samsung Knox Development Manager who is an internal employee. I am crossing my fingers he is full of it.

I've got the bands for the AT&T and Verizon phones. Those companies had the decency to post the info online. Samsung chat was useless and told me some BS as usual about not knowing until the phone was released. Is it possible the T-Mobile bands listed on the website are the only bands it supports? 2,4,5,12?

If the websites are accurate and just considering bands alone it looks like the AT&T one has the best support.

I'm really Curious about exynos working on Verizon and can't find any info. I'm in Korea for another 8 months and was hoping to get the Korea model S8 and take it back to the states and use it on my Verizon network. I have a feeling it won't work just like the S7 did not.

The s8 Will be just like the note 7 was.... Internals are EXACTLY the same, just different SW, and can be flashed with any carrier SW to "make" them that carriers phone.

suzook said:
The s8 Will be just like the note 7 was.... Internals are EXACTLY the same, just different SW, and can be flashed with any carrier SW to "make" them that carriers phone.
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Thats what I was thinking based on the 1 and only FCC filing with just the 'U' and no other carrier letters.

Bad news all 4 carriers support slightly different bands just like always
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=71771523

954wrecker said:
Bad news all 4 carriers support slightly different bands just like always
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=71771523
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It's bs...Trust me. Note 7 on Samsung website showed the same. A simple flash of carrier FW makes it whatever FW is on it.

suzook said:
It's bs...Trust me. Note 7 on Samsung website showed the same. A simple flash of carrier FW makes it whatever FW is on it.
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Does that mean that if say I pre-order the AT&T S8+ from Best Buy because I have in store credit and place a T-Mobile sim, it can possibly work?

nexus.knightly said:
Does that mean that if say I pre-order the AT&T S8+ from Best Buy because I have in store credit and place a T-Mobile sim, it can possibly work?
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Flash it with TMO SW, and it will be a "TMO" phone.

suzook said:
Flash it with TMO SW, and it will be a "TMO" phone.
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Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. I think the best course of action for me would be to wait for the Unlocked version of the S8 to arrive in May, hopefully.

US or international

What should we order an international model or us. Yes im verizon and us. Only reason i ask ... i have the note 4 and the roms are mostly f and g variant which are india and europe. Anyone else getting the earbuds with the preorder promo?

The US bootloader won't be unlockable.

LoliSmith said:
The US bootloader won't be unlockable.
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Isnt that whats been said about almost every samsung phone?

You have 1 choice as always with Verizon. You get the Verizon version like always.

How do you even pre-order the international version? On the samsung site all I see are the carrier branded ones.

happy2472 said:
Isnt that whats been said about almost every samsung phone?
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When was the last US Samung Galaxy device unlockable?

US because I'm sure the S8 will support the international U model firmware like the S7

kennonk said:
How do you even pre-order the international version? On the samsung site all I see are the carrier branded ones.
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You can order it here, and they ship worldwide and are reputable:
https://www.unlocked-mobiles.com/sim-free-mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s8-plus-sim-free-p-87505.html

happy2472 said:
What should we order an international model or us. Yes im verizon and us.
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I'm pretty sure you'll have to get the Verizon model as Verizon is a CDMA network and the international model is GSM and won't work (it'd work on AT&T and T-Mobile as they are GSM networks). Even if it did work you'd have to consider what frequencies/bands the international model supports vs what your carrier uses (and it seems that's not been specified yet, at least not on GSMArena, unless all versions supports all the same frequencies/bands).

samteeee said:
You can order it here, and they ship worldwide and are reputable:
https://www.unlocked-mobiles.com/sim-free-mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s8-plus-sim-free-p-87505.html
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Interesting only black and that feminine mauve colour (grey my ass).
I wonder where the silver and gold versions are being sold?
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samteeee said:
You can order it here, and they ship worldwide and are reputable:
https://www.unlocked-mobiles.com/sim-free-mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s8-plus-sim-free-p-87505.html
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NM, I tried to do a fake purchase and wasn't able to get them to ship to US, only UK.

RMXO said:
http://www.samsung.com/uk/smartphon...leMbCEOhBmuFF5g3q25kJViXEB_OCKvPx4F5TRnE4ljMO
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Do they ship to the US?

LoliSmith said:
Do they ship to the US?
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nope, my bad, i should of checked before posting.

So the International model with the Exynos chip does not have CDMA radios/modems, correct?

LoliSmith said:
So the International model with the Exynos chip does not have CDMA radios/modems, correct?
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We already covered this in another thread no?
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happy2472 said:
What should we order an international model or us. Yes im verizon and us. Only reason i ask ... i have the note 4 and the roms are mostly f and g variant which are india and europe. Anyone else getting the earbuds with the preorder promo?
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Samsung pay wont work on International

johnwayne27 said:
Samsung pay wont work on International
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Yes true.
Good thing i dont use it...hell i dont even know if we have it in canada lol.
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force70 said:
We already covered this in another thread no?
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No.

Listen everyone if you cant reply with a positive response or helpful then please dont reply at all.

I'd be careful
I am still looking into comparing the US Snapdragon variant of the Samsung Galaxy S8+ vs the International variant with the Exynos chip. I will say the Exynos chip usually works a lot better than the snapdragon on a samsung phone. Which makes sense since it is a Samsung chip. The real world speed tests for the Exynos and benchmark tests usually outdo the snapdragon.
With that said, frequency bands need to be compared. Because obviously the international variant will not work for Sprint or Verizon. Furthermore, there are LTE bands to worry about for T-Mobile and AT&T. And I can not seem to verify the bands for the international variant. From what I remember for the S7 International variant, there was no LTE band 12 which T-Mobile uses for their new LTE band. It didn't matter much before but now this band is being used for low-band spectrum which is for inside buildings and rural long distance connections. This band is expanding.
Therefore, I want to first see the real word speed tests (because snapdragon upped their game a bit) and confirm the frequency bands which seems to be harder than I thought. Frequencycheck seems to think the INternational variant has Band 12 but are they reliable this early?
Anyway, can anyone confirm the LTE bands for the International G955F variant? Maybe I need to search in German or French.

Variant list?

Is there a list of all the variants and their compatibility somewhere? Searched for one but nothing comes up.

I don't think there is a list, but in the United states there's the AT&T, t mobile, sprint, Verizon variants. As well as an unlocked firmware variant. There might be boost mobile and cricket variants too. There's a Hong Kong variant, Korean variant (I think), there might be an international version I don't know.
There might be more, but the above is what I have come across. Now as far as the model numbers here in the U.S. the AT&T variant which I have is G975U, this is also the model number for the Verizon, sprint, and t mobile variants. The unlocked variant is G975U1. There is also a G975F and G975N too.

StoneyJSG said:
I don't think there is a list, but in the United states there's the AT&T, t mobile, sprint, Verizon variants. As well as an unlocked firmware variant. There might be boost mobile and cricket variants too. There's a Hong Kong variant, Korean variant (I think), there might be an international version I don't know.
There might be more, but the above is what I have come across. Now as far as the model numbers here in the U.S. the AT&T variant which I have is G975U, this is also the model number for the Verizon, sprint, and t mobile variants. The unlocked variant is G975U1. There is also a G975F and G975N too.
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Yup, everything model in the US is the same hardware and variant. You are able to flash the firmware of another carrier.

I'm in Canada and have a G975W which i never see anywhere

Cholerabob said:
I'm in Canada and have a G975W which i never see anywhere
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Canada has always had a "W" variant. Not sure why they've always had their own. Lol. I remember buying a Canadian Note 4 and the model was W8 I believe.
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H990n, what's the story with this variant.

Hi, I just picked up a H990n with a crack screen for 20 quid: ) Impulse buy, but at that price I'd be a fool to turn it up.
Anyway, what's the deal with this model? Can it be dirtysanta'd and is it a dual sim?
I know I could research this but I'd rather just ask this time.
Thanks.

No need to search.
Here is all you need
https://m.gsmarena.com/lg_v20-8238.php
The DS model is Dual Sim.
Have fun
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ezzony said:
Anyway, what's the deal with this model? Can it be dirtysanta'd and is it a dual sim?
I know I could research this but I'd rather just ask this time.
Thanks.
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As far as I know, every V20 model except the updated LS997 is rootable, so you should be fine. There is a separate DirtySanta guide for the H990 models on here, but for some reason, it's under the ROMs section. The H990N also has dual SIM + separate microSD card slots like the H990DS, just a few different LTE bands. There are single-SIM H990 variations, but I don't think the H990N has one. In my experience, GSMArena is terribly inaccurate when it comes to details of different regional models.

C D said:
As far as I know, every V20 model except the updated LS997 is rootable, so you should be fine. There is a separate DirtySanta guide for the H990 models on here, but for some reason, it's under the ROMs section. The H990N also has dual SIM + separate microSD card slots like the H990DS, just a few different LTE bands. There are single-SIM H990 variations, but I don't think the H990N has one. In my experience, GSMArena is terribly inaccurate when it comes to details of different regional models.
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Yeah I'd imagine your right, I haven't heard about rooting issues with any model except the LS997.
So it sounds like the N is basically a DS with slightly different firmware but prolly exactly the same hardware. It would be a bit odd if the N is limited in frequency bands since it's a dual sim. Probably will work fine for me in my locality as it is.
In my experience, GSMArena is terribly inaccurate when it comes to details of different regional models.
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I agree, I usually only use those generic phone sites for very general info like screen size. You are much more reliable C D

ezzony said:
So it sounds like the N is basically a DS with slightly different firmware but prolly exactly the same hardware. It would be a bit odd if the N is limited in frequency bands since it's a dual sim. Probably will work fine for me in my locality as it is.
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FWIW, here's a list of what might be all the bands for the H990N:
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/vn2jk/lg-h990n-v20-dual-sim-td-lte?c_id=2513440
If this is correct, then it shares all the bands of the H990DS and has two more UMTS bands and two more LTE bands (17 and 26).

C D said:
FWIW, here's a list of what might be all the bands for the H990N:
https://www.frequencycheck.com/models/vn2jk/lg-h990n-v20-dual-sim-td-lte?c_id=2513440
If this is correct, then it shares all the bands of the H990DS and has two more UMTS bands and two more LTE bands (17 and 26).
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Oh yes, I'd forgotten about frequecycheck, I do find that reliable. And indeed yes, I have 100% compatibility in my locality. All good so, tks.