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Hey everyone, I'm heading to barbados this weekend and was hoping be able to use my phone for pics, music, wifi etc. Anyone know of a way to disable the cell radio to avoid the roaming fees and charges for any calls/texts that would come through? Airplane mode would work, but if I wanted to jump on wifi Id be SOL. Any suggestions?
Deactivate the phone
Cant you turn off roaming in the settings?
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adrynalyne said:
Deactivate the phone
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Hadn't thought of that for some reason, that would be my safest bet too, no easy way to goof up and end up with a bunch of texts and data charges for the phone hopping on a signal somewhere (not even sure it would work in the first place but thats another issue). Guess its time to lay off the herb...I should have been able to figure that one out lol (as i crack a dutch).
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Hadn't thought of that for some reason, that would be my safest bet too, no easy way to goof up and end up with a bunch of texts and data charges for the phone hopping on a signal somewhere (not even sure it would work in the first place but thats another issue). Guess its time to lay off the herb...I should have been able to figure that one out lol (as i crack a dutch).
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i hear that!!! pass it on over! (as i pass a bowl) anyway why can t you use your wifi while on airplane more? i do it all the time. airplane on and wifi on no prob....or am i just to lifted to understand whats going on
ruthlessbeatle said:
i hear that!!! pass it on over! (as i pass a bowl) anyway why can t you use your wifi while on airplane more? i do it all the time. airplane on and wifi on no prob....or am i just to lifted to understand whats going on
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As said here, Airplane mode should be what you're looking for. It _does_ turn off wifi when you turn it on, but you can just turn Wifi right back on. That should leave your phone as basically an Android version of an iPod Touch.
I'm not sure about the specific country you're headed to, but in a large portion of the world your phone wouldn't work anyways (assuming it's the Verizon Fascinate, and not the Telus Fascinate), since most areas adopted GSM over CDMA. Although, if it is a GSM based phone, you could always pick up a local-sim card (say, from a pre-paid phone?) and be able to just use that, to keep your voice (and maybe also data) connection in case you really need it.
My friend lost his HTC-Wildfire ( India, Bangalore).
There was no tracker enabled, is it possible to request HTC to block the device based on IMEI number? I read somewhere, it is not yet possible in India ( the blog-post was about a year old).
Any other suggestions?
HTC will not do it. Your mobile operator will do it, but, it needs a FIR from your local police station, and, as expected, it is a process full of hassle, unless you have 'contacts'.
And I heard, mobile operator keep asking to go back to device manufacturer. ( we work at SIM level, and not device, unless it is locked).
Then perhaps I should let the 'finder' enjoy his luck for now.
As I said, its a hassle filled process. From what I read and heard, it is the mobile operator who should do it, because, all of them have access to a global database of stolen phones. All they need to do is simply add your IMEI to this global list, and it is locked for use with any sim - any network. Obviously, its a process filled with legal red tape, which is why they are uncooperative.
I think when we are using android market, Google will be having our imei/serial number. Don't know if that helps to track the phone ( maybe not ). But I think everyone with android phone must be using market.
And if the person who got the phone wants to use wildfire without a sim or any other internet networks, then u can do really really nothing. All we should do is to protect our phone from being lost.
You could also try Plan B,if it works in your country.It`s an app that installs itself when the device connects to the market and then sends you the location of the phone.
Hope it will work for you^^
Haska said:
You could also try Plan B,if it works in your country.It`s an app that installs itself when the device connects to the market and then sends you the location of the phone.
Hope it will work for you^^
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That was the first thing I did, but I think I was late by hours. By that time the device was offline.
ALso, there was a 'pattern' based unlock password. So, if the person goes about reflashing the ROM (himself, or whoever he sells to).. then that wont work.
Haska said:
You could also try Plan B,if it works in your country.It`s an app that installs itself when the device connects to the market and then sends you the location of the phone.
Hope it will work for you^^
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It's already lost unfortunately.
Besides, atleast as far as I know, mobile thieves are today much more intelligent. They will first flash and format your phone before even attempting to use it (They switch off your phone immediately after picking it - happened to me once). Also, another aspect is that it is hardly ever the thief who will use it. He will sell it at first opportunity.
^@3xeno
Exactly.
I had no hope from planB, but I still did it - just in case.
Even if it works, the accuracy of location would be very important.
I can be evil and go all-out to get IMEI blocked. But just thinking whether its worth the hassle ( its more of a revenge), as they say, it wont help to get the device back.
Or should I let the 'receiver' enjoy his luck.
As i can remember there is a app in the market called 'plan B' which helps to track your phone even after it is lost. Log in to the market with your pc and search for it.
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shiranmotha said:
As i can remember there is a app in the market called 'plan B' which helps to track your phone even after it is lost. Log in to the market with your pc and search for it.
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Of course he can install "Plan B" remotely in his device from PC android market without any confirmational messages (but provided only if his gmail account is still associated with his phone. This happens only if his sim card was unchanged and i dont think that is the case).
It would be nice if google gives some more security to keep the gmail account attached to the phone.
bharatgaddameedi said:
It would be nice if google gives some more security to keep the gmail account attached to the phone.
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I had that feeling almost two months afther buying it: you can simply pull out the sim card of the device and start it up, resulting in having access to the persons mails and contacts. You can even send mails if you enable wifi.
Solution for that: the pattern unlock. Most of the time annoying, but thiefs will have to hard reset the phone to get past it, loosing all the contact with my mail and google contacts.
EDIT: or at least I hope so, never really tried to see if there was a way to get past the unlock code (accept when you get called, but I really hope that the thief is not someone who has my number )
ErwinP said:
I had that feeling almost two months afther buying it: you can simply pull out the sim card of the device and start it up, resulting in having access to the persons mails and contacts. You can even send mails if you enable wifi.
Solution for that: the pattern unlock. Most of the time annoying, but thiefs will have to hard reset the phone to get past it, loosing all the contact with my mail and google contacts.
EDIT: or at least I hope so, never really tried to see if there was a way to get past the unlock code (accept when you get called, but I really hope that the thief is not someone who has my number )
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A typical thief wont be able to get past 'pattern-unlock'. However, in hands of a hacker, with adb - everything is possible with sufficient time and motivation.
Typical thief would either sell it, or try to use it using different sim ( your best hope for any post-theft-tracking possibility).
Irony is that, pattern lock saves you from un-educated 'thief' misusing your data. But, on the other hand it motivates them to reflash the ROM, thus eliminating any chance of u tracking it.
In hands of even bigger experts, even IMEI-lock wont stay for long. I am sure there are people who know how to spoof IMEI. But I would imagine that is very small community.
Yes it all depends on the person that finds/steals the phone but better to try and fail than not try at all.And yes the Plan B requirement is that the person that has your phone uses your gmail account login on the market.With pattern lock the one that finds it would have to flash it as akshayxyz said so it all depends on the settings/luck or whatever ,but still there is no harm in trying.
After all what are the chances that someone with knowledge about these things finds your lost phone,and if that was the case then your friend has really bad luck.
I lost my phone and i used it just in case,I even kept the same password in the hope that one would log in with it.It didn`t help me since as i found out later my lcd cracked when it fell out of my pocket ,but after i got it back(the person that found it came into the store i work at and asked how much would the replacement cost) and loged in the market the app installed itself,so try it.
No harm done and its just a few clicks on the net^^.
I am no longer with AT&T and am wondering if it is possible to use the ATRIX 4g without being subscribed for phone service?
Just want to be able to give to my son so he can play games and surf internet over wifi.
If so, I will search the forum for a how to when I get home unless someone has the link handy and could post.
Thanks.
I don't see why it wouldn't work. It doesn't need to be activated to use. You might get a no sim error, but I don't know how persistent it is.
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I am no longer with AT&T and am wondering if it is possible to use the ATRIX 4g without being subscribed for phone service?
Just want to be able to give to my son so he can play games and surf internet over wifi.
If so, I will search the forum for a how to when I get home unless someone has the link handy and could post.
Thanks.
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You can leave the sim card in the device, just make sure the phone is set to flight mode.
Cheers
Agreed put it in airplane mode to save battery. You can still use it to make voip calls via GrooVe IP or a similar app.
I did this with my original droid. The difference is my OG droid is a CDMA phone and the Atrix is GSM.
If you rooted/bootloader unlocked/have a custom rom installed then I think it should be a simple process. If you did not do any of these things before you dropped service you might have issues with activation - but again I dont know how this would work with a GSM phone my experience with with a verizon CDMA phone.
I think odd are good you should be able to get it to work fine. I Use my old droid to listen to podcasts, stream google music, and as an alarm clock.
Just make sure he doesn't try to dial 911, you can still make emergency calls with no SIM installed.
kennydjr83 said:
I did this with my original droid. The difference is my OG droid is a CDMA phone and the Atrix is GSM.
If you rooted/bootloader unlocked/have a custom rom installed then I think it should be a simple process. If you did not do any of these things before you dropped service you might have issues with activation - but again I dont know how this would work with a GSM phone my experience with with a verizon CDMA phone.
I think odd are good you should be able to get it to work fine. I Use my old droid to listen to podcasts, stream google music, and as an alarm clock.
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CDMA or GSM shouldn't make a difference, I play with my old Captivate (GSM, no sim) all the time. Its not like the wifi/Android Market stops working if you dont pay your bill! I assure you, OP, you CAN use your Atrix in the way you described.
Root the phone and freeze the dialer?
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Thanks all for the info. I will be messing around with it later tonight.
Rooting and freezing dialer is excellent idea to prevent kid from accidents.
korsjs said:
Thanks all for the info. I will be messing around with it later tonight.
Rooting and freezing dialer is excellent idea to prevent kid from accidents.
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Keeps us updated! lm curios on what happens when you freeze the installer..
I think airplane mode disables Wi-Fi so you might need to disable the radio for better battery life but keep Wi-Fi enabled for internet access.
Ecstacy42 said:
I think airplane mode disables Wi-Fi so you might need to disable the radio for better battery life but keep Wi-Fi enabled for internet access.
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Airplane does disable WiFi if you have it on when you initiate Airplane mode, but then you just turn wifi back on no problem.
Dial *#*#4636#*#* and search the option to turn off the radio ;D
hope it helps
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you can totally bypass the "no SIM inserted" screen on the Atrix using this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1027994
I didnt see a thread for welcomes..
Hi! i just picked up a sprint lg g2 on a free upgrade but i do not plan on activating it yet since 4g is not currently in my area, so for now i want to use this and just a fun phone for around the house. so i have a few questions after checking out some of the stickys and i dont want to start multiple threads for single questions. if this gets moved to a different area then i understand why as well. also if my typing seems sporadic its because i am coming from a htc tp2 and this is my devirgin process on using androids and rooting. so welcome to my party of self discovery!
1)since i am not activating it can i still pull all the necessary updates for the phone itself off the wifi?
2)in this sticky http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2479892 i saw no mention of a sprint code. i dont know if i should root it yet because i am currently using a htc touchpro2 im sure the stock speed is going to blow my mind but should i still do that ^^^^ mentioned above?
3)when i got the phone the lady really tried to push the S4 on me saying that the g2 will be stuck on jellybean for 2years? does rooting fix that?
4)when i do decide to activate it, is hotspot easily achieved by an app or is their some kind of rooting that needs to be done? (i already have unlimited data plan)
5)the BB csr also mentioned titanium backup app. and i checked it out and i dont understand how it works. thts for the bloatware stuff right?
6)is it possible to get that flappybird game still? i want to play it see what the fuss is about like on youtube.
i would rather not root my phone if it will stay fast but i dont want all that clutter apps either if its like a new desktop computer that comes with free aol 3.0 and etc.
dubmang said:
I didnt see a thread for welcomes..
Hi! i just picked up a sprint lg g2 on a free upgrade but i do not plan on activating it yet since 4g is not currently in my area, so for now i want to use this and just a fun phone for around the house. so i have a few questions after checking out some of the stickys and i dont want to start multiple threads for single questions. if this gets moved to a different area then i understand why as well. also if my typing seems sporadic its because i am coming from a htc tp2 and this is my devirgin process on using androids and rooting. so welcome to my party of self discovery!
1)since i am not activating it can i still pull all the necessary updates for the phone itself off the wifi?
2)in this sticky http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2479892 i saw no mention of a sprint code. i dont know if i should root it yet because i am currently using a htc touchpro2 im sure the stock speed is going to blow my mind but should i still do that ^^^^ mentioned above?
3)when i got the phone the lady really tried to push the S4 on me saying that the g2 will be stuck on jellybean for 2years? does rooting fix that?
4)when i do decide to activate it, is hotspot easily achieved by an app or is their some kind of rooting that needs to be done? (i already have unlimited data plan)
5)the BB csr also mentioned titanium backup app. and i checked it out and i dont understand how it works. thts for the bloatware stuff right?
i would rather not root my phone if it will stay fast but i dont want all that clutter apps either if its like a new desktop computer that comes with free aol 3.0 and etc.
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1) yup
2) I personally dont adjust that simply cause the phone then feels to hot for my liking even though its safe. You can do it and if you dont notice a difference or its to hot for you, just change it back. I think the code for sprint and verizon version is 980? so... 3845#*980#
3)You can root and flash aosp (android open source project) to your phone but you may find that you like the stock software. Also kitkat will be out for our phone shortly
4) You can use a program called foxfi that you can use that will turn your phone into a hotspot and sprint wont be the wiser so you dont have to pay for tethering. Also you dont need root for foxfi.
Just play around with the stock setup and see if you like it, you may not even find the need to root. Also if you enable developer options by going to settings<about phone<software information, and click the "build number" like 6 times (the developer options menu will then be in settings<developer options), you can adjust the window animation/transition animation/animator duration to 0.5 or off to speed up the phones interface.
thanks for the fast replies!
i am trying to update prl/profile/firmware/software etc and it gives me an error. my wifi is connected and i turned off airplane mode for the updates. (i should keep airplane mode on correct so that it doesnt try to activate?)
The dialer code for sprint is 5689#*980#
The prl/profile will only update on an active phone. You have to do it manually if the phone isn't active. That said, you don't need to do it if the phone isn't active, because they are settings sent by Sprint to your phone to let it know about active cell towers and things like that.
Check the Sprint part of these forums. Most of the stuff you asked is in there in one place for another.
Side note, so you don't wonder what is going on. In the title of threads, you will see things like [kernel][rom] etc etc.. things between brackets.. The things that say [INT] stand for International. They are ports made to make the Sprint LG G2 work on GSM networks. If you install one of those rom's the phone will NOT work on Sprint. Right now, that would be no big deal for you, since the phone isn't active. But if/when you activate the phone, you can not use one of those roms and still use the phone as a phone.
should i still update my phone via the LG drivrs at least? also that dialer code does nothing with my phone. it doesnt activate the special menu. so far i havent found it but is their a list of must have apps or a list of minimal steps to get rid of the bloat without rooting? when i am in the settings>>apps menu their is a list of different google' labeled items, are all of those necessary? also someone mentioned foxfi, its only a paid app correct?
Title says it all. Anyone else able to enable Volte? I've been using it for a while now. No root needed.
Edit: Hidden menu tool attached in post #3
How?
First and most crucial thing is accessing the hidden menu aka service mode aka dialer code heaven.
It's done by using the hidden menu tool that's linked in this page:
https://www.reddit.com/r/verizon/comments/c9tovo
It's extremely easy and stupid fast.
Once you've done that you must enable advanced calling in settings. The beauty of it is that it can be done without having to deal with Verizon at all. It's done by accessing IMS settings.
Still with me? If you give a **** beep twice.
Just a reminder/standard Android warning; use the hidden menus with caution. You know this part if you've ever messed with flashing ROMs and all that. There's potential for you to mess up your phone so, you know..
FACTORY MODE
Enter in calculator
(+ 30012012732+
Diagnostic mode(enter either in calculator or dial pad)
##366633#
VERIZON IOTHIDDENMENU
##433346#
Band select/service mode
*#27663368378#
IMS setting menu
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IMS Settings
- Hit the more options/three dots on upper right of screen
- Select 'Reset to default'
This should activate 'Advanced Calling' in the settings menu without dealing with Verizon. Keep in mind you might have to restart your phone after you reset the IMS settings to default.
- Go back to IMS settings (*#467#) after Advanced Calling is available(you should see that HD voice and video are enabled)
-Under IMS Setting, tap the first option “IMS Service switch”.
-On the next screen, make sure all the toggles are on. If any toggle is off, turn it on.
-Go back and tap “Self Provisioning”. First two options i.e. Provisioning and EAB should show “Enable”. If they show something else, tap “Toggle Provisioning” to enable them.
-Again go back and tap “IMS information”. Verify that all the settings are enabled on the IMS information screen.
-Restart your device.
>Manually add the IMS APN
1) Create an IMS APN
Settings → Mobile Networks →Access Point Names → Add
Select Settings and Mobile Network
Select Access Point Names, Select Add
2) Input IMS setting
Name: ims
APN: ims
APN type: ims
I have never posted here before but I nearly had to buy a new phone because the information I am about to share was not available anywhere on the entire internet even though I had to use the starting point of the above Gentleman's information. Ok so if your Verizon Galaxy Note 4 (although it may work on other carriers as well) was not previously activated in the actual android OP (within the "advanced calling" Setting) and it happens to be on an MVNO Sim card, then the above strategy will not be enough to activate advanced calling (or WIFI calling) because unfortunately these Note 4's are so old that the OS thinks that it has to connect with a 3G tower to make a handshake with your Verizon account before it can tell your OS to proceed with activating the advanced calling. So since you cannot walk into a verizon store and have an tech guru reprogram it for you without the 3G Tower handshake, what you have to do to get it to work is you have (same with Visual Voicemail by the way) to actually enter into the IOT Hidden menu (via above method and then ##433346#) and then click Data then edit and now you are in the data programming menu and then you just need to hit HDR/1X Selection and then click LTE Only Mode and save. Finally in the IMS Setting (above) you must go into the DM configuration and click the VOLTE_Enabled setting and change the 0 to a 1. Good luck and I will take questions if you need help, and thanks for finding the info above OP!
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I have never posted here before but I nearly had to buy a new phone because the information I am about to share was not available anywhere on the entire internet even though I had to use the starting point of the above Gentleman's information. Ok so if your Verizon Galaxy Note 4 (although it may work on other carriers as well) was not previously activated in the actual android OP (within the "advanced calling" Setting) and it happens to be on an MVNO Sim card, then the above strategy will not be enough to activate advanced calling (or WIFI calling) because unfortunately these Note 4's are so old that the OS thinks that it has to connect with a 3G tower to make a handshake with your Verizon account before it can tell your OS to proceed with activating the advanced calling. So since you cannot walk into a verizon store and have an tech guru reprogram it for you without the 3G Tower handshake, what you have to do to get it to work is you have (same with Visual Voicemail by the way) to actually enter into the IOT Hidden menu (via above method and then ##433346#) and then click Data then edit and now you are in the data programming menu and then you just need to hit HDR/1X Selection and then click LTE Only Mode and save. Finally in the IMS Setting (above) you must go into the DM configuration and click the VOLTE_Enabled setting and change the 0 to a 1. Good luck and I will take questions if you need help, and thanks for finding the info above OP!
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DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is it!!! You are a steely-eyed missile man! I have been trying to reconnect my Note 4 to Verizon since they shut off 3G. I thought maybe my issue was related to not having HD setup prior to losing the 3G connection. As you have pointed out, that is the case. No matter what I did, I could not enable HD through the advanced calling menu. Toggling the bit was the key to the whole thing! I cannot thank you enough. I really like my Note 4. Yes, it's old, but it has a lot of great features that they just don't include on new phones. I understand that someday she will be forced to retire, but not today Verizon.... not today.
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Yes, it's old, but it has a lot of great features that they just don't include on new phones.
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True that. In the same boat. The ONLY things missing from the Note 4 are camera2 api and faster/more consistent GPS lock. Other than that, perfect phone for me. I got VoLTE working on VZW, but their 4G coverage blows in my area, missed/dropped 75% of calls. I have nearly everything working w/ a T-Mobile SIM, except voice calls fall back to 2G/CDMA. I'd LOVE to figure out how to get VoLTE on T-Mobile's towers, but it's still usable, since T-Mobile has great 4G LTE Band 4 coverage here, and decent 2G/GSM. So far, they have not announced end of life for 2G/GSM. I have been a VZW customer since they were Bell Atlantic, like 25 years. Had the grandfathered true unlimited data plan. Their service degradation over the last few years is inexcusable. Driving around last week w/ two identical note 4's, one w/ a T-Mobile SIM, one w/ VZW was an eye opener. Should have done this 10 years ago.
Benovite said:
Just a reminder/standard Android warning; use the hidden menus with caution. You know this part if you've ever messed with flashing ROMs and all that. There's potential for you to mess up your phone so, you know..
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Benovite, thanks for this procedure. Do you know, by any chance,
a) Where these settings are actually stored?
b) Is there a way to back up/restore the settings before messing with them?
Google search has been zero help on this. I don't know if a nandroid(twrp) backup of System/Data would save/restore all the hidden dialer menu settings. Would love to know for sure. Thanks,
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DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is it!!! You are a steely-eyed missile man! I have been trying to reconnect my Note 4 to Verizon since they shut off 3G. I thought maybe my issue was related to not having HD setup prior to losing the 3G connection. As you have pointed out, that is the case. No matter what I did, I could not enable HD through the advanced calling menu. Toggling the bit was the key to the whole thing! I cannot thank you enough. I really like my Note 4. Yes, it's old, but it has a lot of great features that they just don't include on new phones. I understand that someday she will be forced to retire, but not today Verizon.... not today.
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Your very welcome! I was not willing to give up on any of my note 4's either as they have so many features that absolutely no modern phone has such as:
IR blaster, removable battery, option of Qi charging Cover or regular cover, Heart rate, Blood pressure, O2 Level, Can connect to all 4 main GPS systems {GPS/US, GLONASS/Russia, Galileo/EU, BeiDou/China}, it works on almost all GSM & CDMA Networks including the unusual cdma networks in South America which I use every year or two when we visit my wifes family in Colombia and much more. They dont make phones that are swiss army like how this old note is, in fact I have tried other notes (including the last note that samsung made) and I absolutely hated it and took it back!
So because I just dont ever want to give up my note (it does absolutely everything I need in a phone and more) I decided to just keep messing with each value of each setting until I finally found the one that works! It was a little easier for me though because I had my wifes daily note 4 and mine daily note 4 and 2 spares to look at different settings so that when I messed up a setting I could return it to what my wifes note 4 had. The only reason I figured out the value changing thing is because one of my old android 5.1.1. note fours had the advanced calling activated when I retired it and as soon as I stuck my current sim card in it I was able to immediately make VoLte calls, so I knew there had to be a setting somewhere that would toggle it on. If anyone wants to activate Video calling on their note 4's (for free) it is actually done the same way. Simply go in to the IMS settings *#467# (which you can only do once you have unlocked the global hidden menu....see above) and make sure it is toggled on in the service switch setting first under the heading VoLte-Video Then head back into the DM Configuration and change toggle the show all values tab at the top to on and then scroll down until you see "LVC_Enabled" And change the 0 to a 1 and then to unhide the video tab in your dialer you need to keep scrolling down and find the one that says "Options _Enabled" and again change the 0 to a 1 and then scroll down and change the "VCE_Config" from 0 to 1 (it may already be a 1 though, its weird, but make sure it is a 1). Now finally Switch your phone to airplane mode and then back off and go back to the main IMS Screen and scroll down and select ims information and make sure that Video over IP is enabled. If it is not you may need to restart your phone. So what is crazy is that the video calling on this phone never worked on any MVNO's and never even worked when using verizon pre-paid, it only ever worked on this phone when I had verizon Post Paid, so I find it incredible that it can be activated like this. What it makes me wonder is if the Text message Chat feature can get activated the same way (although I havent figure that one out yet)! Anyhow my fellow note 4 lovers, I hope you do enjoy this tid bit of info!
ForestCat said:
Benovite, thanks for this procedure. Do you know, by any chance,
a) Where these settings are actually stored?
b) Is there a way to back up/restore the settings before messing with them?
Google search has been zero help on this. I don't know if a nandroid(twrp) backup of System/Data would save/restore all the hidden dialer menu settings. Would love to know for sure. Thanks,
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So, I know for sure that it has to be saved someone within the backup file that you can create through android because I backed up the note 4 phone that had advanced calling activated and then did a factory reset and then used odin to install the latest Stock fw file (the one from 2020 that had the better Modem FW) and as soon as I started it up with the sim card the advanced calling was de-activated and could not be re-activated through the normal channel, but then once I restored the android (or google) backup it was automatically re-enabled after the restore was complete. I suspect it is saved someone in the actually IMS settings app (it is actually a samsung app) which I discovered using activity launcher and apk analyzer. I wonder if you could use activity laucher to figure out if your tmobile version note 4 has this system app in it? If it does have this app, I actually figured out that you can unlock this hidden menu without the verizon program on your PC (you dont even need a PC). All you actually have to do is:
Dial ##366633# on the phone then - Select the enable DM Mode on the phone, and then
After This enter main the main IOTHIDDEN MENU using ##433346# then click
- Data (takes you to Data Programming Screen)
- Edit (Data Programming)
- More (takes you to "Others" Screen)
- Click on Global Hidden Menu Selection & Change to Enabled, and boom done your now have an unlocked IMS Service menu and if you can make it here with your t-mobile phone, then you should be able to copy all the values from someone else's tmobile VoLte working Android phone regardless of what T-Mobile tells you!
Just in case anyone is wondering, I actually tried copying the Carrier Services APK and the IMS Settings APK from my android 6.0.1 phone (my daily driver) to one of my other note 4s that I recently rooted (thank you JKRuse for your ridiculously easy rooting instructions for MM) and installed Lineage 18.1 on (thank you very much Ripee For all your hard work there) to see if I could somehow get these system apps to get VoLte working on lineage (I know it was a ridiculous long shot) and NO JOY
This was a sad thing indeed because that is the only thing about my old notes here is that I cannot use the Samsung Smart things app to see what is in my family hub refrigerator (when I am out at the Grocery store) and I cannot use the sams club Scan and Go app because both of those apps require android 8.0 and above! And if it wasn't for not being able to get SMS over IP and Voice over IP working on lineage, it would be a perfect operating system for the note 4's! The only downside I could find was that I could not get a stable 4k video (which I never use anyway because it takes way too much sd card space) and the Bluetooth is not stable. But other than that it runs sooo sooo good on the note 4! It is 10 times faster than the Stock fw and then we could use modern apps! Man I wish we could all somehow work together to get VoLte on lineage and fix the Bluetooth and then Bang we have our notes for another 6 or 7 years at least (especially now that I discovered Aliexpress has sellers that are still making Note 4 battery's fresh which means they have not degraded in capacity like all the ones on amazon and ebay). Anyhow good luck!
mrjoshjohnsmith said:
So, I know for sure that it has to be saved someone within the backup file
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Thanks, good info. RE: Lineage, etc, there are a lot of cool ROMS out there, but in my experience, once you move away from touchwiz, there's always gonna be some functionality that you have to give up. I've been on MODestROM v11 since I got the phone, and it's been awesome. EVERYTHING works. But, like you say, it's 6.01, and we're slowly being left behind. I'm always looking for a new phone, but every time I think I'm close there's something that horrifies me about it. No charging LED???? Really???? These companies, Apple, Google, MS, Samsung, et al, have been adopting the worst of each other's anti-consumerism 'features' for decades. Apple started it. Now we have forced updates you can't roll back, bootloaders you can't unlock (thanks, Samsung) ,windows computers with no network activity indicators, no hdd activity indicators, etc. Which is fine, I guess, if you're cool with the dumbing-down of everything. I'm not. Heaven forbid we could actually replace the ONE THING in our phone that WILL fail (the battery), and get to continue working the way we want with the hw we've learned. Oh well.
/rantOff
ForestCat said:
Thanks, good info. RE: Lineage, etc, there are a lot of cool ROMS out there, but in my experience, once you move away from touchwiz, there's always gonna be some functionality that you have to give up. I've been on MODestROM v11 since I got the phone, and it's been awesome. EVERYTHING works. But, like you say, it's 6.01, and we're slowly being left behind. I'm always looking for a new phone, but every time I think I'm close there's something that horrifies me about it. No charging LED???? Really???? These companies, Apple, Google, MS, Samsung, et al, have been adopting the worst of each other's anti-consumerism 'features' for decades. Apple started it. Now we have forced updates you can't roll back, bootloaders you can't unlock (thanks, Samsung) ,windows computers with no network activity indicators, no hdd activity indicators, etc. Which is fine, I guess, if you're cool with the dumbing-down of everything. I'm not. Heaven forbid we could actually replace the ONE THING in our phone that WILL fail (the battery), and get to continue working the way we want with the hw we've learned. Oh well.
/rantOff
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Hahaha I laugh because absolutely everything you said there are the things I tell my wife when she asked why we don't 'upgrade' our Asus work Laptops! And then of coarse you are absolutely correct about the phones! It sad because even though everything is continually being dumbed down, it is not in a good / more useful way it is always in a way that causes us the consumers to have to go more often to the mega corps tit to drink! Seriously though Loved the rant, and I appreciate the tip on the Modest Rom, I have not used it but now I will try it out.
mrjoshjohnsmith said:
So, I know for sure that it has to be saved someone within the backup file that you can create through android because I backed up the note 4 phone that had advanced calling activated and then did a factory reset and then used odin to install the latest Stock fw file (the one from 2020 that had the better Modem FW) and as soon as I started it up with the sim card the advanced calling was de-activated and could not be re-activated through the normal channel, but then once I restored the android (or google) backup it was automatically re-enabled after the restore was complete. I suspect it is saved someone in the actually IMS settings app (it is actually a samsung app) which I discovered using activity launcher and apk analyzer. I wonder if you could use activity laucher to figure out if your tmobile version note 4 has this system app in it? If it does have this app, I actually figured out that you can unlock this hidden menu without the verizon program on your PC (you dont even need a PC). All you actually have to do is:
Dial ##366633# on the phone then - Select the enable DM Mode on the phone, and then
After This enter main the main IOTHIDDEN MENU using ##433346# then click
- Data (takes you to Data Programming Screen)
- Edit (Data Programming)
- More (takes you to "Others" Screen)
- Click on Global Hidden Menu Selection & Change to Enabled, and boom done your now have an unlocked IMS Service menu and if you can make it here with your t-mobile phone, then you should be able to copy all the values from someone else's tmobile VoLte working Android phone regardless of what T-Mobile tells you!
Just in case anyone is wondering, I actually tried copying the Carrier Services APK and the IMS Settings APK from my android 6.0.1 phone (my daily driver) to one of my other note 4s that I recently rooted (thank you JKRuse for your ridiculously easy rooting instructions for MM) and installed Lineage 18.1 on (thank you very much Ripee For all your hard work there) to see if I could somehow get these system apps to get VoLte working on lineage (I know it was a ridiculous long shot) and NO JOY
This was a sad thing indeed because that is the only thing about my old notes here is that I cannot use the Samsung Smart things app to see what is in my family hub refrigerator (when I am out at the Grocery store) and I cannot use the sams club Scan and Go app because both of those apps require android 8.0 and above! And if it wasn't for not being able to get SMS over IP and Voice over IP working on lineage, it would be a perfect operating system for the note 4's! The only downside I could find was that I could not get a stable 4k video (which I never use anyway because it takes way too much sd card space) and the Bluetooth is not stable. But other than that it runs sooo sooo good on the note 4! It is 10 times faster than the Stock fw and then we could use modern apps! Man I wish we could all somehow work together to get VoLte on lineage and fix the Bluetooth and then Bang we have our notes for another 6 or 7 years at least (especially now that I discovered Aliexpress has sellers that are still making Note 4 battery's fresh which means they have not degraded in capacity like all the ones on amazon and ebay). Anyhow good luck!
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Link? I noticed Ravpower took down their page selling Note 4 batteries.
ForestCat said:
Thanks, good info. RE: Lineage, etc, there are a lot of cool ROMS out there, but in my experience, once you move away from touchwiz, there's always gonna be some functionality that you have to give up. I've been on MODestROM v11 since I got the phone, and it's been awesome. EVERYTHING works. But, like you say, it's 6.01, and we're slowly being left behind. I'm always looking for a new phone, but every time I think I'm close there's something that horrifies me about it. No charging LED???? Really???? These companies, Apple, Google, MS, Samsung, et al, have been adopting the worst of each other's anti-consumerism 'features' for decades. Apple started it. Now we have forced updates you can't roll back, bootloaders you can't unlock (thanks, Samsung) ,windows computers with no network activity indicators, no hdd activity indicators, etc. Which is fine, I guess, if you're cool with the dumbing-down of everything. I'm not. Heaven forbid we could actually replace the ONE THING in our phone that WILL fail (the battery), and get to continue working the way we want with the hw we've learned. Oh well.
/rantOff
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I'm still running Kitkat and I hate how the US carriers mess with the Note 4's settings
dave678 said:
Link? I noticed Ravpower took down their page selling Note 4 batteries.
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Dave, the best battery's I have found so far (I have tried about 15-20 different aliexpress brands) are these:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804139675068.html?
Make sure you choose the NFC variety if you want to be able to use your Payment apps and other things (like nearby share). Now keep in mind that these battery's are nowhere near the capacity that they claim. I purchased a high end lithium battery stressor / capacity tester which can stress a battery up to 180watts and I tested each battery from all the different brands I purchased from aliexpress 5 times each (just to make sure I was past the break in stage of each battery) at a Constant Current of .7amps (which I found was the most accurate average that a note 4 will pull if watching videos and or gaming half the time and then just web browsing the other half) and these battery's consistently came out at that amperage with 3200ma - 3400ma capacity. The cutoff voltage was set to 2.8v which is as low as you would want to go during a stress test without damaging the battery. Anyway I say all that to say that they did seem to be the best battery's (better than original actually) even though they lie profusely on their stated capacity. I actually have another brand ordered though that seems to have good feedback so I will let you know how they go (these ones: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832682489559.html?). One final note, I would tell you all is that you will make your phone last longer if you do not have to ever take it apart to replace any components (since that almost always damages the s-pen foil film behind the OLED & motherboard) and the way you do that is you keep multiple spare battery's around and only charge the battery's in a separate charger like this: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2251832625444390.html?
Which only cost $4.20 a piece so when one finally burns up (they seem to last about a year each when plugged in 24 hours a day) you just plug in a new one and your phones charging port remains untouched! Now, I will admit though that I do not stick to this rule 100% of the time since sometimes I am using my phone as a GPS (which drains the battery hella quick) so I go ahead and plug the phone in to my car charger when I am doing so. Anyhow, I hope that helps