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OTA update when rooted D855

Hey, I have a LG D855, and I'm rooted on A6NL D855 V10G. My phone suggested to OTA update to V10I. Now I want to know if it's safe to do so. And if that's the case, what would happen to my root? I'd actually be glad to be rid of my root since I think it's lagging my device. So, what exactly would happen if I updated? Anybody with experience?

Would think although showing an ota when you download it it won't install as it will detect your root. In order to update you will have to return to unrooted state. A search will show a couple of threads instructing how to.

From what I understand, as long as you haven't made any changes within the system folder or installed a custom recovery, the OTA should install just fine. Worst case is if anything has been changed, it will tell you and it won't install. But yes, you will lose root once it is installed.

root and ota should be ok.
but be very careful if your g3 is bumped!! if you had installed bump! on your device, an ota update fails and the reboot always ended in the recovery. i tried almost erverything - no way out. i had no chance to reboot into the system!!
only flashing back to stock had fixed the problem (incl. loosing all personal data).
kd

Mendeltje1313 said:
Hey, I have a LG D855, and I'm rooted on A6NL D855 V10G. My phone suggested to OTA update to V10I. Now I want to know if it's safe to do so. And if that's the case, what would happen to my root? I'd actually be glad to be rid of my root since I think it's lagging my device. So, what exactly would happen if I updated? Anybody with experience?
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When u are rooted, it will download the new update (ota), but it will give a error when it installs. You have to update via pc.
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Just had this happen to me on LG G3 for AT&T
Was rooted, got prompted to install the update, I kept declining until it stopped asking.
Then my phone died, after plugging it in and restarting my phone, it instantly jumped into the update window with no other options.
It updated automatically, and it didn't stop or error because of my root. I'm on 4.2.2 now, most up-to-date version on AT&T.
To make it clear: I'm rooted with TowelRoot, NOT with Bump!

VZ LG GPad 8.3 OTA VK81024A

04/17/2015 Update to this posting; -24A OTA rooted 1st time using Stump after dozens of Brute Force fails on 23A-
Can anyone else confirm Stump Root working for 24A on their own devices?
Original Stump Thread; http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/orig-development/root-stump-root-lg-g3-sprint-verizon-t2850906
New OTA software update VK81024A just released this week. From what I've read and VZW's PDF, the only thing that was changed was 4G LTE coverage. In my experience with Verizon, they only release updates for this device to patch root methods and add bloat. This would have been my 3rd update to my GPad (had I accepted) without measurable positive impact. I personally cannot believe that they spent the time and money to fix LTE coverage that, in my experience, had no noticeable issue to begin with.
I would still be waiting for Lollipop on my VZ G3, if I didn't go ahead and root/ROM just last month. With the Lollipop ROM being available to the Korean G3 as early as November of LAST YEAR, my faith in Verizon getting us the updates we want and deserve (I purchased a flagship phone, and a popular tablet) is nonexistent.
Okay, I'm done ranting (for now) about the "Great Satan" that is VZW...the only carrier with good coverage here in my area of NY. Does anyone have any experience with this update? Anyone try rooting it (maybe Stumproot will start working again)? I am tempted to accept it if I could assist the community by doing so. Please tell me your thoughts.

VK810 OTA update from 23A to 24A keeps root
For both of my VK810 tablets on 23A:
Previously rooted 4.4.2 w/ Stump.
SuperSU marked w/ "survival mode". Given my history with the LG G3 keeping root w/o needing "survival mode", I doubt that setting "survival mode" was necessary. However, given the pain I went through to root one of my VK810 tablets right out of the box, I decided to keep it set.
The OTA update (still v4.4.2) to VK810-24A kept root.
The referenced Verizon web page ( http://www.vzw.com/lggpadsupport ) for update info shows very minor changes: http://www.verizonwireless.com/dam/support/pdf/system_update/benefits-lg-gpad-83-4-1-15.pdf

Just got mine this morning. Hadn't been using the tablet for a few days. Would not take OTA. Downloaded the file but kept kicking an error. Ended up hooking it up USB and using the upgrade assistant. Paranoia got the better of me and I "unrooted" first. Brute force stump (climbed to 6800 I think) did the trick just like before. Must say I was disappointed. I had not read what the "upgrade" consisted off but figured since they jumped from 23A to 24A it would be something substantial. I notice some minor cosmetic changes but that's about it. The 4gLTE "Update: or "Upgrade" isn't going to make much difference in my neck of the woods. 3G is about the best you can hope for here in this little town for the time being.

DeanGibson said:
For both of my VK810 tablets on 23A:
Previously rooted 4.4.2 w/ Stump.
SuperSU marked w/ "survival mode". Given my history with the LG G3 keeping root w/o needing "survival mode", I doubt that setting "survival mode" was necessary. However, given the pain I went through to root one of my VK810 tablets right out of the box, I decided to keep it set.
The OTA update (still v4.4.2) to VK810-24A kept root.
The referenced Verizon web page ( http://www.vzw.com/lggpadsupport ) for update info shows very minor changes: http://www.verizonwireless.com/dam/support/pdf/system_update/benefits-lg-gpad-83-4-1-15.pdf
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Did the same thing as you, OTA installed and still rooted

This did not happen to me, I am using this same tablet and rooted with TWRP installed. When I tried to let the OTA install I got stuck in a boot loop and had to use some terminal commands inside of TWRP to fix the issue. I keep getting bothered with this upgrade notice and I don't know how to stop it. I am pretty sure if I try to let it update I will be stuck in a boot loop again. I don't want the damn update.

Anthony-m said:
This did not happen to me, I am using this same tablet and rooted with TWRP installed. When I tried to let the OTA install I got stuck in a boot loop and had to use some terminal commands inside of TWRP to fix the issue. I keep getting bothered with this upgrade notice and I don't know how to stop it. I am pretty sure if I try to let it update I will be stuck in a boot loop again. I don't want the damn update.
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On every Android device, if you want to take an OTA, you have to either be 100% stock, or at least have stock recovery, kernel, bootloader, and other partitions, and only have done minor things with the system partition - not have debloated at all.
Sent from my VK810 4G

Anthony-m said:
This did not happen to me, I am using this same tablet and rooted with TWRP installed. When I tried to let the OTA install I got stuck in a boot loop and had to use some terminal commands inside of TWRP to fix the issue. I keep getting bothered with this upgrade notice and I don't know how to stop it. I am pretty sure if I try to let it update I will be stuck in a boot loop again. I don't want the damn update.
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If the LG Mobile Support Tool factory restores the whole phone (recovery included) then this may be the best option till someone posts the KDZ with rooted 24A. This was my root method and it may work for you.
After searching through forums for weeks looking for viable root options (rollback and Purplerake or Towelroot, ADB scripting, and all others) and running Stump as often as I remembered (probably 30 times on 23A) I finally have it! I didn't see any up to date threads on rooting the VK810 and all the old threads had too many broken links to actually perform the steps.
Here's how it went down;
1.) Installed the latest LG USB drivers from LG's site ( http://tool.xcdn.gdms.lge.com/dn/downloader.dev?fileKey=UW00520120427 ).
2.) Download LG Mobile support tool ( https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B687...p2NlhhalU/edit ).
3.) Run the LG Mobile Support Tool program.
4.) Switched tablet USB mode to "Internet Connection / Ethernet" and after a few moments the LG Tool recognized my VK810.
5.) In LG Tool, click on "Options -> Upgrade Recovery" on the upright corner.
6.) It should start downloading stock firmware right away, if it says "Downloading" but there is no file size or progress, then you need to disable firewall.
7.) After the download, it will start "Upgrading".
8.) When the tablet rebooted I was on the latest VZW VK81024A which shocked me because I thought it was going to put the factory image (JB 4.2), but not to give up hope, I retried Stump...1st time rooted the thing!
9.) Followed Stump Root's directions (Reboot after app tells you to, Install SuperSU APK from market, Uninstall StumpRoot) and poof!
10.) Enjoy rooted 24A KitKat
It is very possible that 24A broke the fix VZW had for 23A (even though many people had success with 23A) and one need only take 24A OTA to Stumproot if they were not able to prior, but this is how my experience went down.
MANY thanks to @roirraW "edor" ehT, @jcase, & @jim380 for producing the threads and software that led to my rooting.

Question about 6.0.1 Update for Verizon S5 that is on Straight Talk

Hi all,
A couple quick questions here. I've done some reading up, but most of the information is more in depth than I need at the moment so I'm looking for some quick answers.
My SO has a Verizon S5, that has a locked bootloader, is not rooted, and is still on 5.0.
She swapped carriers a while back, so is no longer on the Verizon network. The IMEI is clean, and her Verizon account is fully paid, and everything on the phone works fine, aside from it being stuck on 5.0.
It will not update via the automated system, because I assume it's trying to reach out to straight talk for the update and gets a response that it's on the newest version.
I downloaded the Verizon OTA update file (approximately 1 gb) for 6.0.1. It's named update.zip to allow for automated updating.
Here are my questions:
1. Would it be ok to just slap the update file on her phone and let it auto-update using the built in software?
2. Are there any major downsides to updating to marshmallow, considering it's an official release on the correct version of that phone?
3. Will root be needed prior (I'm assuming not) for using the OTA update file?
4. Will her information stay intact; email accounts, contacts, apps, samsung account, etc?
5. While root would be nice for locking down some of the bloatware after, it isn't a deal breaker, simplicity is the key here as she is not an advanced user, but would updating via the OTA file remove all possibilities of rooting the device after (it seems to be the impression I get, as her bootloader is locked)?
Thank you very much for your assistance!

Hi bladebarrier, I actually just did the same thing a few weeks ago with a used S5 from Verizon going to Straight Talk.
1. Would it be ok to just slap the update file on her phone and let it auto-update using the built in software?
I'm unsure if that would work, someone else may be able to answer as to that method, however I used the Odin tool v3.11.1, downloaded the PD1 image from here. There are some good video tutorials on YouTube and on writeups on this forum as well regarding how to flash the Marshmallow update using Odin.
2. Are there any major downsides to updating to marshmallow, considering it's an official release on the correct version of that phone?
No downsides that I've noticed and seems to have slightly better battery life.
3. Will root be needed prior (I'm assuming not) for using the OTA update file?
You do not need root to flash it if using the Odin tool.
4. Will her information stay intact; email accounts, contacts, apps, samsung account, etc?
Yes, but it's always a good idea to make a backup of everything.
5. While root would be nice for locking down some of the bloatware after, it isn't a deal breaker, simplicity is the key here as she is not an advanced user, but would updating via the OTA file remove all possibilities of rooting the device after (it seems to be the impression I get, as her bootloader is locked)?
The only thing that the locked boot loader affects for now is the ability to flash custom ROMs. I was able to downgrade to 5.0 Lollipop which you can still root, even after upgrading, however I decided to just go back to Marshmallow and wait for an exploit to be found, if one ever is.

jesimpki89 said:
Hi bladebarrier, I actually just did the same thing a few weeks ago with a used S5 from Verizon going to Straight Talk.
1. Would it be ok to just slap the update file on her phone and let it auto-update using the built in software?
I'm unsure if that would work, someone else may be able to answer as to that method, however I used the Odin tool v3.11.1, downloaded the PD1 image from here. There are some good video tutorials on YouTube and on writeups on this forum as well regarding how to flash the Marshmallow update using Odin.
2. Are there any major downsides to updating to marshmallow, considering it's an official release on the correct version of that phone?
No downsides that I've noticed and seems to have slightly better battery life.
3. Will root be needed prior (I'm assuming not) for using the OTA update file?
You do not need root to flash it if using the Odin tool.
4. Will her information stay intact; email accounts, contacts, apps, samsung account, etc?
Yes, but it's always a good idea to make a backup of everything.
5. While root would be nice for locking down some of the bloatware after, it isn't a deal breaker, simplicity is the key here as she is not an advanced user, but would updating via the OTA file remove all possibilities of rooting the device after (it seems to be the impression I get, as her bootloader is locked)?
The only thing that the locked boot loader affects for now is the ability to flash custom ROMs. I was able to downgrade to 5.0 Lollipop which you can still root, even after upgrading, however I decided to just go back to Marshmallow and wait for an exploit to be found, if one ever is.
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Thank you very much for your thorough response. It sounds like it will be a nice smooth flash, and I will use the full Odin version instead of the OTA file, to ensure it goes through comfortably.

Odin looked like it wanted to wipe the apps, so I ended up using the stock recovery/installer that's built in, and placing the OTA update file on the external SD card.
That worked like a charm. It took a bit, as expected, but all of the apps and info were ok after.
The only thing I can't sort out is why I can't find an option for the "Themes" setting in touch wiz. Any suggestions? I realize I could have her go to a third party launcher, like nova, but I have all of the theme options on my note 3, that's ported to MM note 5, and the theme option is still right there in the settings list, per normal. Maybe I'm just not seeing it, but I couldn't find an option on her S5 during 5.0, or now on 6.0.1. Is that something they never updated for the older phones?

AT&T Update and Root

I just started to receive messages yesterday that AT&T is pushing an update to my phone. I don't want to install it because I don't know how it will affect my root status. I'm still on stock ROM, but rooted and de-bloated. Anyone know if this is safe to install? Has anyone with root accepted it?

Silently got this update pushed to mu phone because I forgot to freeze software updater in Tibu. Luckily the update failed. I do not know if it was because I had done the v15 fixes mod/pack, or because of root, but I got lucky.
I would not update period, until somethind is released to keep, or reroot. If I am not mistaken, updates have a kernel in them, so it would over write the engineer kernel.
My bet is ATT did something to block flashing the kernel back.

Good call, I'd better not update. I connected WiFi and it just downloaded the whole package and kept on my bar asking me to update. I just froze the AT&T Software Update too, all better.

It's the pg1 update and the engboot kernel still works for root.
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Rooted SM530t - How to install OTA/security updates?

The more I read the mode confused I get.
I have Samsung SM-530T Grand Prime (TMobile) that I rooted many months ago using Shinyside's method
https://forum.xda-developers.com/grand-prime/development/kernel-root-root-sm-g530t-5-1-1-t3203476
It tripped knox, and naturally, I can not download updates from the phone. My last two phones never had any updates, so updates for this phone was never really a concern.
Now I would like to add the security updates.
I have downloaded the latest firmwares here
https://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/galaxy-grand-prime/SM-G530T/
The update also shows up in Smart Switch, but it complains about rooted phone...
So I have the option of Odin, Flashfire, or Smart Switch to update the phone.
Question is, what is the most reliable way to update the phone to the latest firmware without rendering it useless?
I don't see a way to download the OTA patches seperate. I've read that the flashfire option leaves the phone rooted, and just updates the rom, while others have stated they lost root and the phone was buggy after the update...
It's my only phone so I don't enjoy crossing my fingers and hoping for the best.

For future reference for those trying this...
For me, flashfire didn't work. I tried to do a full backup and partial backup, but every time the phone would hang at the T-Mobile screen at reboot. Had to pull the battery and SD/SIM. Never tried flashing with it.
Unrooted via SuperSU. Still couldn't update due to custom system.
Ran smart switch and ran the update. Rebooted and had updated system, but no wifi.
So, ran Odin installing the latest .md5 from Samsung, rebooted with latest system and wifi.
Then rooted using cf autoroot, so now have the latest system with root.