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I, obviously, have a Herald and I was wondering that if I get a Mogul and go with Sprint because they have EVDO and apparently their plan would have everything mine has but would be almost 30% cheaper, would that be a good deal?
I was also thinking about the Kaiser and I've read that you can unlock it to work for any kind of service provider but I was wondering if it supports EVDO and I'm just wondering if it was worth switching because of all the buying/selling of things things.
The Herald does has a slow processor and not only is the service plan good but I wondering if either of those phones are "better" than this one?
EDVO and GMS are imcompatible. You won't be able to use a tilt in Sprint's network, only in other GSM networks. (AT&T and Tmobile, for example.)
Where do you live? T-Mobile's 3G roll-out is picking up momentum, they've been cracking out 2-3 cities per week lately. It may not be too far off for you. Of course you will need a new phone, but the Android device is supposed to be announced next week...
I live in El Paso, Texas. Is there a place where I can check on the status of T-Mobile's 3g area progress?
The main thing I want is faster internet for my phone (or possibley a different one) and a faster processor. I was going to sell my Wing since it's only a month old (got a new one ) and get a Mogul on ebay and get Sprint's 70 dollar plan that has all the same features my T-mobile plan has but Sprint's is cheaper and faster internet, plus the phone is better no?
Also. Do you know the specs for this phone? Wow how much better is the Android cause I read a lot of nice things about it
Looks like El Paso isn't getting 3G by the end of 2008, but several other places in Texas already have it or will by the end of the year.
http://tmonews.com/2008/09/t-mobile-officially-announces-3g-cities/
I don't know the specs for the Android phone, but there are some vids on Youtube and it's looking pretty sweet. Supposedly T-Mobile is going to have something official to say on it on Sept. 23.
Ah yeah I've seen videos and read about how people gossip that it's only going to cost 200 dollars. I hope it has a slide-out keyboard.
Hmm damn maybe I should just wait it out then??
Oh I was also wondering if the 5.99 T-Zones proxy hack still works to get full internet? Cause 20 dollars is very outrageous and that's one of the concrete reasons as to why I want a different plan with faster, and cheaper, internet.
Re: T-Zones proxy hack. Some users are reporting that it is still working in certain areas, but T-Mobile is actively closing this loophole. It hasn't worked here in close to a year. Even if it works for you now, I wouldn't bet it will last.
Which data plan are you looking at on Sprint? Some of their 'everything' plans are decent, but IMO $20 for unlimited internet is one of the best deals in the industry.
Hmm that sucks. See I wouldn't have mind paying 20$ for unlimited internet if it went faster than 150kbs/s. This 25kb/s is blasphemy for 20 dollars.
I was looking at sprint's 70$ plan; unlimited texting and picture messaging plus 450 whenever minutes with nights starting at 7pm and their wonderful EV-DO internet. I was planning on buying an HTC Mogul.
I think that's a better deal no? But that Google Android phone is wnticing me to keep T-mobile...
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I live in El Paso, Texas. Is there a place where I can check on the status of T-Mobile's 3g area progress?
The main thing I want is faster internet for my phone (or possibley a different one) and a faster processor. I was going to sell my Wing since it's only a month old (got a new one ) and get a Mogul on ebay and get Sprint's 70 dollar plan that has all the same features my T-mobile plan has but Sprint's is cheaper and faster internet, plus the phone is better no?
Also. Do you know the specs for this phone? Wow how much better is the Android cause I read a lot of nice things about it
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haha me too!
but 3g sounds too expensive haha
Ahh lol well I'm sure the OS for the G1 will be ported... The main reason I wanted a new phone and better internet is because my parents are cheap and can't afford anything and I use internet sharing ALOT for my homework and it's so painfully slow . Plus it would be good to be able to download things that take a few hours rather than a few days.
Yeah but I'm thinking about selling this phone to get it. If the plans are under 100 dollars, I'm going to get it .
Well thanks guys for all the help and answering my questions. I guess I'll wait it out for the G1. I'm glad it's cheap.
buru, do you have EDGE coverage in your area? 25kbs is abysmal, even for straight GPRS! Before EDGE, I could pull close to 40kbs on GPRS, now that EDGE is here my speeds hover just under 200kbs. From what I've heard, some newer phones can surpass 200kbs on EDGE to, if they have up to date hardware with support for the latest EDGE specification. Granted, the Herald is no spring chicken, but you should be able to manage ~175kbs. It doesn't sound like much, but most sites I need to access on my phone offer a mobile site and EDGE speeds are quite tolerable for loading these pages.
Holy **** what?? About 175 kb/s?? Aww **** El Paso, Texas gets nothing good!!
Well I'm not sure but I believe it's GPRS. Plugged in using internet sharing or just downloading on Opera 4.1 my average is always about 25kb/s.
Man that blows that mines rediculously low. Where do you live and should I call T-Mobile and ask what their average speeds should be for my Wing? Cause I do have the total internet.
Damn even at 40kb/s I would be content but 200!! Geez... sadness. Now I'm even more disappointed.
buru- Go to this page and enter your zip code. Be sure to check "Display data coverage" at the bottom. When I searched El Paso, it showed the whole area fully covered by EDGE.
http://www.t-mobile.com/coverage/pcc.aspx
Are you running the stock ROM on the Wing? It is notorious for being crap. Also, check your data connection settings... perhaps your Wing is only set to GPRS. I'm not sure what the options are, but when I had my Treo 750 you could choose between GPRS and GRPS/3G... maybe the Wing has an option for EDGE...?
**** yeah I'll check it right now.
Lol the stock ROM is mad slow, screw that . I'm using ttran's wonderful Open Touch 6.5 no throttle and no spb.
I don't believe there's an option for EDGE cause when I connect to the internet it always displays "Connecting to GPRS..." regardless of anything.
Hmm... I'll mess with the internet options a bit and see what's up. If I find that everything points to my internet speeds being faster, should I call T-Mobile or go to their store over here and ask what's up?
Thanks also btw. But does the Wing even support EDGE? Maybe that's why?
The Wing definitely supports EDGE. If it is not a problem with the internet connection settings, you should call Customer Care (1-800-937-8997) and ask for PDA support. Be sure to call from a different phone, as they will want to go through some steps with you on the Wing. Don't even bother going into a store because this is going to be beyond the capabilities of 99% of the reps, and they will just put you on the phone with support anyways.
Hmm I think I will because I looked in the data connections and the only options are Cellular line (GPRS), Cellular line, My ISP, and some other one.
Damn that sucks though. So for sure my phone's internet speed should be faster than 25kb/s?
Based on your options, GPRS is the right setting. Technically, EDGE is a form of GPRS (unlike 3G, which is a whole new protocol). You should be getting more than 25kb for sure.
For the record, using my wing here in Tennessee, it ALWAYS says connecting to GPRS, but it displays an E for Edge network, or a G for GPRS Data network next to the signal icon up top of the screen. In most of the area(in backwoods TN) I get pretty darn good Edge coverage, running around 150 to 175 kbps. Definitely check it out, might try a different ROM if all else fails, just to eliminate that as a problem.
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Hmm well it's always an E next to the network icon but it's easily less than 40kb/s all the time.
**** it I'm calling T-Mobile and asking how fast my internet speeds should be over here where I live.
I'm sure it isn't the ROM I'm using... It's ttran's OT 6.5 and I'm sure almost everyone else is also using it and not getting crappy ass speeds?
Been having horrable data speeds on 3g the past 3-4 months. And ive been calling and complaining everytime i have problems and making note of when i called sprint and what was done to the account. I have tried everything they asked including going to the store and getting a refurbed evo. But at the store when i got the refub i dled speedtest and got the same results...so i told them to keep it and give me my original phone back.
Point of this post is to DEFINATLY call and complain...dont let it go and look it over. Take notes on what they said and did to your account and spit it back at them the next time you call. They wanna charge me an etf for something that is not my fault since i want to cancel. I wont accept that...this is there problem...i shouldnt pay for full service if i aint getting it or be punished for cancelling when it is a problem on there end. Here is notes from todays convo with them as an example for others that should do the same. It may be the only way for them to fix there service or the only way they look at you and be like...hes to much of a pain in the ass to keep him so let him go. I will continue to call and complain until it is hopefully fixed or worst case they cancell my contract...todays notes.
Feb 15 spoke to 3 sprint reps and 1 supervisor in the cancellation dept..had my bill adusted to 101.09 dollars for poor service the past 3-4 months. So far total credits issued for poor data the past 4 months is $16 for invisable screen protecter..$20 for data booster at home...$30 for a credit issued for january for poor data speeds and $36 today for february's bill of poor data speeds. Total of $102.00
I've also noticed slower speeds for some time now, along with my home comcast internet. too many people online these days? (my internet used to be blaazzzing fast for 9 years!)
This has happened to me since November. I got my evo on launch day, and was getting great speeds, about 1500kbps down consistently. One day in November, my 3g crapped out. Since then, sprint has given me 6 phones, 3 refurbs and 3 brand new ones. All have the same problem. This leads me to believe its a network problem, I mean how could 7 phones have the same exact problem. But, my friend has an evo, and side by side his is normal, while I get less than 70kbps. And the evo's in the sprint store are fine as well, along with all the other phone models.
I have spent HOURS and HOURS on the phone trying to get this taken care of. I'm not trying to get anything from sprint, I just want my 3g to work. I love the evo, and I love sprint's coverage in my area.
They have given me 6 phones, and I haven't paid my bill in 3 months, since they keep giving me credits since they cant figure out the problem. I really could care less, I just want my 3g to work correctly.
So no, it really DOESN'T pay to complain. I have spent hours of my life complaining about this, and have gotten nowhere.
Same thing here. My 3G data speeds crapped out last November also. Sprint has no idea what the problem could be. I think everybody who is experiencing slower than normal data should raise serious hell with Sprint every single day. This is NOT a coincidence. I suspect something fishy is going on and I'm not going to pay these premium unlimited data fees for terrible 3G data speeds! I'm going to demand Sprint to credit my account 50% every month until they turn 3G back on like it used to be. If not I want out of my contract. Either way I can easily sell my two EVO's on Craigslist to cover the etf's.
I can't watch Sprint TV, YouTube, or stream any online video content. Web browsing is VERY slow. My data speeds have gone from 1.6mbps to .30kbps since last November and now I never get speed results faster than .76kbps on a good day. It seems like Sprint flipped a switch one day out of the blue and data speeds went to **** ever since.
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Same thing here. My 3G data speeds crapped out last November also. Sprint has no idea what the problem could be. I think everybody who is experiencing slower than normal data should raise serious hell with Sprint every single day. This is NOT a coincidence. I suspect something fishy is going on and I'm not going to pay these premium unlimited data fees for terrible 3G data speeds! I'm going to demand Sprint to credit my account 50% every month until they turn 3G back on like it used to be. If not I want out of my contract. Either way I can easily sell my two EVO's on Craigslist to cover the etf's.
I can't watch Sprint TV, YouTube, or stream any online video content. Web browsing is VERY slow. My data speeds have gone from 1.6mbps to .30kbps since last November and now I never get speed results faster than .76kbps on a good day. It seems like Sprint flipped a switch one day out of the blue and data speeds went to **** ever since.
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What happened was more people got on the data network and Sprint hasn't invested in capacity like Verizon, T-Mobile and AT&T has to support more 3G data traffic.
What's the best internetz speed tester?
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Search tbe market for speed test
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Have you tried this?
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PLEASE READ L-E-T-T-E-R FOR L-E-T-T-E-R, W-O-R-D FOR W-O-R-D.
As we all know, HTC and Sprint borked downloads for apps like Rhapsody, Mog, Thumbplay.
I recently ran across the subject and i found a fix. It is very simple.
1. Get your MSL, There are many ways, call Sprint, Download the app MSL Reader from the market, CDMA workshop
2. After you have your MSL go to your phone and type ##3282#
3. Click Edit Mode
4. Click Advanced
5. Scroll down to HTTP PD Proxy Port & HTTP PD Proxy Address
6. Change HTTP PD Proxy Port to 0 (zero)
7. Change HTTP PD Proxy Address to 0.0.0.0
8. Go enjoy Downloads and a .20-.60 mbps increase in 3G speeds!
-All credit to original finder of this fix, i am just passing it along and found the speed increase. Also when you flash a new rom it will back to old settings so remember to re-apply and it wont make you more vulnerable to anything.
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The Proxy changes do indeed help. Be sure to give them a try. That being said. my 3G and 4G data speeds are roughly half of what they were four months ago (Baltimore market). The only thing that has not changed is my RSSI or signal strength which comes in at -62.00 dBm every day, all day. The Rx signal to noise ratio has been reading "Not ready" for the past couple of months. What happened to it? How do I calculate CINR without this part of the equation?
I've complained numerous times about my poor signal coverage and pour 3g and ay first they gave me a airvana airave unit which really doesn't work to well with the evo..... but at least they did something....
I have an Airwave on the way. Sprint has also credited a month's bill yet again. Let's hope Sprint/Clear can get their collective acts together soon.
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For slow 3G speed, an Airvana is not the answer for the simple fact that it hooks into your existing broadband connection.. you could just get a WiFi router.
That's what I told them. They said it was an "Airwave 2.0" and acts like a repeater of the 3G signal. Either way, it is of no cost to me. It does show a willingness of Sprint to work with me, even if the proposed solution is no solution.
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It's obvious the more people who start using smartphones will start to slow down the service, but its the same with Comcast internet as much as I hate it. The companies all get u with the little filler words "up to". The speeds are not and never will be garunteed, at least not in the near future. Let's just hope these clowns actually give us TRUE 4g speeds in the next few years(70-100Mbps) as the technology grows.
Not 100% true. My company says up to as well, but its only allowed to be 5-10 percent off that speed, otherwise they send someone out.
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Not 100% true. My company says up to as well, but its only allowed to be 5-10 percent off that speed, otherwise they send someone out.
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I mean there is wiggle room. But when a company says 20Mbps and u only get 13, u r within that range u are talking about. I know Comcast, if u pay for 20mbps service, u can be getting 12 and they can do nothing about it on their end. It's because some units share a single.signal, same with cell towers, the more people using , the slower it'll be. And grandma and grandpa are starting to get smartphones, so it'll keep getting slower unless sprint stays on top of their game.
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For slow 3G speed, an Airvana is not the answer for the simple fact that it hooks into your existing broadband connection.. you could just get a WiFi router.
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Yeah pretty much if you have a WiFi capable device.
I've gone from amazing 3G reception to constant dropouts and I work downtown Chicago across from the Sears Tower...I have no idea what has happened but being connected to 3G is hit or miss.
They also sent me an airave, which did indeed help in my home. But that does nothing outside of my home. Also, if the 3g works with the airave, that should mean that there is no problem with the 3g radio, so its not a hardware problem, but a network problem.
It's obvious the more people who start using smartphones will start to slow down the service
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I dont think this is the problem. As I stated earlier, two of my friends have evo's, and side by side, their two get normal speeds, while mine gets crap. Also, in the sprint store, I tested their display evo, just fine, and a few other random phones, all were fine.
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I've gone from amazing 3G reception to constant dropouts and I work downtown Chicago across from the Sears Tower...I have no idea what has happened but being connected to 3G is hit or miss.
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I live in the north subs and my parents are downtown Lake n Deerborn, and my parents phones have been crap lately too. Maybe sprint is over emphasizing the 4G downtown(much faster there then where I'm at) and could be messing w 3G speeds. Probably not the exact case but I can see sprint concentrating highly on 4G where it is abundant and short changing 3G a little bit.
I'm no pro so don't take my theory to heart, just thoughts.
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I understand the 4g wont work but I just want to get the phone, 2g internet, mms, and texting to work. everything but 4g... how do I do this? Thanks
bumb, please really need help with this. Thanks!
Currently there is nothing you can flash to get it running on anything but Sprint.
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As far as I know, metro has 1x and 4g. There's no in between. I've watched people with 1x android and blackberry phones and their internet experience is painfully slow. Other than bragging rights, I don't see any practical or usefulness of putting one of these phones on their network. I'm guessing that if there ever was a software update for the phone, you'd have to find a version that has been hacked to work on metro. That's a lot of work for someone only to get dial up like speeds.
Do what you want. I think your money, time and effort would be better spent getting a high end android phone that's actually for metro's network and be able to enjoy all they have to offer instead of a crippled nexus s.
actually metro is beginning to roll out 3g
shabbypenguin said:
actually metro is beginning to roll out 3g
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Who says? Link???
employee intel
sorry i dont have screen shots or anything of the sort..
I know there is a way.. people do it for $60 bucks off Craigslist... Just have to figure out how they do it..
What are you getting for speed test? It shows HSPA, but not HSPA+ (I don't think?). Sacramento has good LTE according to AT&T...
(edit: if there is another thread, direct me please?)
Nexus 7 doesn't have LTE radios... you only get 3G.
Doesn't it have HSPA+? I saw the nexus 4 get like double or triple the speed on HSPA+ (but they were on tmobile...)
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Doesn't it have HSPA+? I saw the nexus 4 get like double or triple the speed on HSPA+ (but they were on tmobile...)
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Yes, it does... but your speeds may vary.
Ok just wondering ^_^
would like to compare....to see how fast it COULD go i guess. Haha. Hopefully the network will get better here.
Yeah, it could be your area. Here are some speeds I've gotten on AT&T in Los Angeles:
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Yeah, it could be your area. Here are some speeds I've gotten on AT&T in Los Angeles:
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yeaaa that's what I want to see. there is hope! haha
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yeaaa that's what I want to see. there is hope! haha
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haha, definitely! i never got those speeds on Tmobile's HSPA+, tho my device maxxed at 1.2 Ghz, if that makes a difference.
tried again on new rom, had more APN connections. tried the att LTE and it doubled the speed to about 2000kbps now. getting better! it a rural area too.
edit: now around 3000-4000kbps. much better. was barely getting into the thousands earlier.
Ah there you go, that's getting better. Despite the good speeds, the network has been annoying me a bit lately. Sometimes i will have a perfect connection, my status will show HSPA 10, with excellent signal, yet i can't connect to anything, can't load anything. I wonder if it's because it's L.A., and there are millions of iPhones and others on the network, and data-only plans don't get priority? The priority thing is my theory at the moment anyway, haha. I have never experienced this on my smartphones, but then again, this is my first experience with AT&T mobile data.
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Ah there you go, that's getting better. Despite the good speeds, the network has been annoying me a bit lately. Sometimes i will have a perfect connection, my status will show HSPA 10, with excellent signal, yet i can't connect to anything, can't load anything. I wonder if it's because it's L.A., and there are millions of iPhones and others on the network, and data-only plans don't get priority? The priority thing is my theory at the moment anyway, haha. I have never experienced this on my smartphones, but then again, this is my first experience with AT&T mobile data.
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same here, no idea on the att mobile data, could be second class customers. haha. yes, much better, i'll test in the city in a bit, hopefully it'll be a lot better. are you custom rom? running cm10.1 now, seems better. might fix some data connection issues?
Yeah, you will probably get some good speeds in the city. I'm running stock 4.2.1, but I have thought about trying CM 10.1, but not just for that reason. I think I might call AT&T later and see if I can find out about the tablet plans. I have heard about some customers not having priority, like if you are subscribed to a sister company but are running on the same network as the main carrier. I'll let you know what I find out.
I'm in Washington D.C. and these are the best ones I've gotten so far.
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I'm in Washington D.C. and these are the best ones I've gotten so far.
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That shows that you are on WiFi though.
Has anyone tried tmobile? I talked to support and they said they have prepaid plans for tablets. Might go try it out and see if I can use their service. I heard people having trouble, but that was for the regular mobile plan. Maybe the data only plan will work, and be much faster. Going in today, I'll let you know and then post results if things go well.
Cool, let us know. When i fist got the device a month ago, they said they didn't have any tablet plans all they could offer me is a wifi hotspot device.
OmG **** ATT. Tmobile FTW. Haha.
edit: if you want more info, just went into the store and asked about the mobile broadband plans. I said some people had trouble online, but It was probably because they tried their phone sim card. this is data only or something, so it worked right as i put it in the slot and rebooted. So much faster. Wow. $35 for 3.5GB. Same pricing as AT&T basically. WAY faster.
And they stay consistent too.
So this happens quite a lot.
I'm on the Play Store, for example, downloading a 20mb app. It jumps from 0 to like 10mb downloaded very fast, and then it turns to molasses, like 30kb every 2 seconds.
On speedtest.net app, it jumps up to 20mbps, then slows to 2.
Why the hell does this happen???!!!
Tethering is also very slow.
Nope, IPv6 didn't fix it.
Bump.
No one else has this problem? I would like to know so that I can chalk it up to a defective device before my return period is over.
Or is this a T-Mobile screw-you that many of us have to deal with?
I have personally not seen any drastic speed changes with my LTE (D802), but i do see my bars drop alot, but that might just be my coverage. About 2 weeks ago i was using a 3G network, so anything above 2 is way faster for me. Might want to take it into the store, so they can have a look at it.
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I have personally not seen any drastic speed changes with my LTE (D802), but i do see my bars drop alot, but that might just be my coverage. About 2 weeks ago i was using a 3G network, so anything above 2 is way faster for me. Might want to take it into the store, so they can have a look at it.
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Thanks for your input. I'm going to take it in; I just wanted to know other people's perspectives. If no one else is running into the issue, then it's probably just a sim card or defective device problem, which would reassure me that a new phone will probably fix it.
If many others are experiencing the same problem, then it's more problematic because it points to T-Mobile screwing people over with false "unlimited high speed data" in good-coverage areas.
Okay, so I just ran a few speed tests, got 30ms ping, 25 down and 11 up, and I did not seem to get any drops. My guess is that there is a problem with your unit. Good luck getting a replacement (Don't know if i should be ironic with that last one)
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Okay, so I just ran a few speed tests, got 30ms ping, 25 down and 11 up, and I did not seem to get any drops. My guess is that there is a problem with your unit. Good luck getting a replacement (Don't know if i should be ironic with that last one)
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Thanks for testing!
I don't think it will be a problem. I just got it last week. Should still be good on return-window.
I don't know who your carrier is or where you have seen this occur, but Verizon has acknowledged that in "big cities" their LTE infrastructure is overcrowded and some traffic will downgrade to 3G or 2G. They have promised to resolve the issue by the end of the year. We'll see.
Mine seems to do this a lot especially when tethering, and now starts to drop calls I assumed this was to do with EE in uk