Headset Hifi mode depends on earphones used? - ZTE Axon 7 Questions & Answers

Hi All, I have the chinese version A2017 model. I noticed the headset hifi setting within the settings menu. What I experienced doesn't seem to make sense to me.
With my JHA earphones, standard gives a fuller sound than super which sounds muffled.
But when I used my Westone earphones, super gives me louder, fuller sounds than standard.
I do not understand how 2 different earphones can give such vastly different experiences on the same phone.
Can someone verify what DAC/filters each of these 2 Hifi modes use?

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[Q] Sound Issue... HELP!

Has anyone had issues with there audio through the headphone jack? It sounds like I am listening though a tunnel!!! And even through the speakers I notice it a little. Any suggestions?
I had this issue with the first set of headphones I tried (the set that came with my Samsung Galaxy S). I swapped the headphones for a better set (Sony's standard €20 earbuds) and the problem was fixed.
Just disable Dolby Mobile in Settings when listening with the headphones. Dolby Mobile seems to be related to (optimized for) the internal speakers.
Mautflucht said:
Just disable Dolby Mobile in Settings when listening with the headphones. Dolby Mobile seems to be related to (optimized for) the internal speakers.
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This will indeed fix your issue. Also make sure the jack seated correctly... sounds silly but on the iconia I have noticed many times that it didn't correctly sense my headphone jack and audio was coming through the cable but sounding very thin, as well as still playing out the iconia speakers.

[Q] Music through samsung headphones have no vocals?

Hi,
As per the title, when I play music on my SGN3 through my Samsung Galaxy S4 earbud headphones, the vocals are missing?
It almost sounds like some sort of karaoke software is intentionally trying to remove vocals from music during playback lol. Or that the headphone output is set to surround sound and I am only hearing the L and R channels and missing the center vocal channel.
The only sound output option that I can find and change is the HDMI output, which can be set to stereo or surround - however both have no effect at fixing the vocals in music playback through my Samsung earbud headphones.
Music playback is fine when I use other headphones and earbuds.
Is there some hidden sound output option where I can set headphone output to stereo? Or is there a compatibility problem with SGS4 earbug heaphones when used with a SGN3?
All help welcomed
unnefer said:
Hi,
As per the title, when I play music on my SGN3 through my Samsung Galaxy S4 earbud headphones, the vocals are missing?
It almost sounds like some sort of karaoke software is intentionally trying to remove vocals from music during playback lol. Or that the headphone output is set to surround sound and I am only hearing the L and R channels and missing the center vocal channel.
The only sound output option that I can find and change is the HDMI output, which can be set to stereo or surround - however both have no effect at fixing the vocals in music playback through my Samsung earbud headphones.
Music playback is fine when I use other headphones and earbuds.
Is there some hidden sound output option where I can set headphone output to stereo? Or is there a compatibility problem with SGS4 earbug heaphones when used with a SGN3?
All help welcomed
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Turn off karaoke setting in your audioplayer.
HanZie82 said:
Turn off karaoke setting in your audioplayer.
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I'm not sure if you are serious or being sarcastic
All music that is played on ANY music player on my Samsung galaxy Note 3 using my Samsung Galaxy S4 earbud headphones does this.
I have not enabled any karaoke setting, and I have not even installed any karaoke app. This just happens no matter what music I listen to and regardless of the player used on the phone.
Like I said in the OP, it seems like the SGN3 is stuck in surround sound mode when the SGS4 earbud headphones are connected instead of playing in stereo - or the vocal track is being removed during playback by the SGN3.
Maybe there is a hidden setting that can lock the headphone output to stereo?
Do you have a case on your phone?
Sent from my Note 3...making all others drool!
try fiddling with the headphone plug in the socket,very slightly pulling it out while listening to music.
djbrian52 said:
Do you have a case on your phone?
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It's in a leather wallet.
MystaMagoo said:
try fiddling with the headphone plug in the socket,very slightly pulling it out while listening to music.
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I tired pulling it out but it doesn't change it.
It is weird, because this problem is not there with other headphones - just the Samsung ones?
iphone earbud headphones, panasonic earbud headphones and even generic stereo earbud headphones all work fine - its just the Samsung earbud headphones that are the problem for me
unnefer said:
It's in a leather wallet.
I tired pulling it out but it doesn't change it.
It is weird, because this problem is not there with other headphones - just the Samsung ones?
iphone earbud headphones, panasonic earbud headphones and even generic stereo earbud headphones all work fine - its just the Samsung earbud headphones that are the problem for me
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Are you using a different 'SoundAlive setting?
It may also be a restriction of your S4 earbuds in that they only work properly with an S4,which sounds like it may be so seeing as other earphones work?
unnefer said:
I'm not sure if you are serious or being sarcastic
All music that is played on ANY music player on my Samsung galaxy Note 3 using my Samsung Galaxy S4 earbud headphones does this.
I have not enabled any karaoke setting, and I have not even installed any karaoke app. This just happens no matter what music I listen to and regardless of the player used on the phone.
Like I said in the OP, it seems like the SGN3 is stuck in surround sound mode when the SGS4 earbud headphones are connected instead of playing in stereo - or the vocal track is being removed during playback by the SGN3.
Maybe there is a hidden setting that can lock the headphone output to stereo?
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Because you had not stated what audio player you used, so i guessed. Had no other choice.
And you should also display what ROM you use, as difrent roms have difrent sound settings.
Buit it sounds like the headset is not compatible with the N3. Is there anyone you can borrow original N3 headset from. Because it sounds like it wont be solved with software setting, else you'd done that already.
HanZie82 said:
Turn off karaoke setting in your audioplayer.
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hahaha that made my day.
@unnefer as u said that other headphones work fine I wouldn't put so much thoughts in the issue. Maybe it's an incompatibility problem or the headphones have an issue (did u try them on other devices)
Do the S4 earbuds do the same thing on another device? Or just on your Note 3?
Hi Guys, Thanks for all the replies and suggestions.
A quick follow up for anyone who has posted a reply or is experiencing the same problem. I've found the root of the problem are after a lot of testing with different headphones.
The problem is caused by the type of earbud headphone - specifically earbud headphone that include a built-in mic. So this is not limited to the SGS4 earbuds, but rather earbuds that include a built-in mic.
Thus far I've tested with several different versions of Sony and Panasonic earbuds, and both Samsung S3 and S4 earbuds. So I'd expect it to be the same for all earbud headphones that include a built-in mic and are supplied along with the mobile phone.
Regular earbud headphones (without a mic) and any other stereo headphones work properly.
I have no idea why this happens with the note 3, but I hope this helps stop all the frustration felt by those who experiences this in future.
unnefer said:
Hi Guys, Thanks for all the replies and suggestions.
A quick follow up for anyone who has posted a reply or is experiencing the same problem. I've found the root of the problem are after a lot of testing with different headphones.
The problem is caused by the type of earbud headphone - specifically earbud headphone that include a built-in mic. So this is not limited to the SGS4 earbuds, but rather earbuds that include a built-in mic.
Thus far I've tested with several different versions of Sony and Panasonic earbuds, and both Samsung S3 and S4 earbuds. So I'd expect it to be the same for all earbud headphones that include a built-in mic and are supplied along with the mobile phone.
Regular earbud headphones (without a mic) and any other stereo headphones work properly.
I have no idea why this happens with the note 3, but I hope this helps stop all the frustration felt by those who experiences this in future.
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Uh, I'm always (literally about 12 hours a day) using AKG K323XS A earbuds (with N7player). Never encountered the issue you mention.
I also do not experience the issue with the headphones I got with my SGS3, SGS5, LG L5-II, HTC HD2 and about 20 Apple ones (both cheap china ones and the official ones.).
No such issue on any of them. ALL of them have inbuild Microphones.
Have you tried cleaning the audio jack?
ShadowLea said:
Uh, I'm always (literally about 12 hours a day) using AKG K323XS A earbuds (with N7player). Never encountered the issue you mention.
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Like I said above, I have no idea why this happens with the note 3, using those specific earbuds with mics that I mentioned.
ShadowLea said:
I also do not experience the issue with the headphones I got with my SGS3, SGS5, LG L5-II, HTC HD2 and about 20 Apple ones (both cheap china ones and the official ones.).
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Are you sure they were SGS3 ones? I only ask because I am 100% certain that the ones I tried were SGS3 and they definitely had the same problem that I mentioned in the OP.
Regardless, there seems to be a definite problem with some of the earbud headphones that include a mic (at least for me with those I tested), and as long as that is mentioned it will help others who experience the same problem that I have, as detailed in the OP
If the SGS5 and AKG K323XS A earbuds work, then I'd suggest ppl try them if they own a note 3 and want earbuds with a mic :good:
ShadowLea said:
Have you tried cleaning the audio jack?
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As per my last post, regular earbud headphones (without a mic) and any other stereo headphones work properly for me, which rules out a dirty audio jack
unnefer said:
Like I said above, I have no idea why this happens with the note 3, using those specific earbuds with mics that I mentioned.
Are you sure they were SGS3 ones? I only ask because I am 100% certain that the ones I tried were SGS3 and they definitely had the same problem that I mentioned in the OP.
Regardless, there seems to be a definite problem with some of the earbud headphones that include a mic, and as long as that is mentioned it will help others who experience what I have, as detailed in the OP
If the SGS5 and AKG K323XS A earbuds work, then I'd suggest ppl try them if they own a note 3 and want earbuds with a mic :good:
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Very sure, I tried both pairs (I have 2 SGS3's. Or well, I gave them away to my parents but you get the point.)
As per my last post, regular earbud headphones (without a mic) and any other stereo headphones work properly for me, which rules out a dirty audio jack
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It might not rule it out directly. The microphone is a third connector ring on the plug. Which is why audio extension cables never work and a headset/mic combination, as they lack the third connector. (that's why gaming headsets have two plugs, one for the mic and one for the sound.) If the receptor for it has metallic particles on it, the phone might think you're recording voice and automatically alter some setting.
Considering that, quick and dirty trick to try. What happens if you use a tiny audio extension cable (or even a 3.5 to 3.5mm plug, or 3.5 to 2.5 to 3.5mm (two plugs)) with a headset with a microphone?? Does it still give produce the same issue? (Those are unboxed in most electronic stores, so no need to buy one to try it.)
unnefer said:
Hi,
As per the title, when I play music on my SGN3 through my Samsung Galaxy S4 earbud headphones, the vocals are missing?
It almost sounds like some sort of karaoke software is intentionally trying to remove vocals from music during playback lol. Or that the headphone output is set to surround sound and I am only hearing the L and R channels and missing the center vocal channel.
The only sound output option that I can find and change is the HDMI output, which can be set to stereo or surround - however both have no effect at fixing the vocals in music playback through my Samsung earbud headphones.
Music playback is fine when I use other headphones and earbuds.
Is there some hidden sound output option where I can set headphone output to stereo? Or is there a compatibility problem with SGS4 earbug heaphones when used with a SGN3?
All help welcomed
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Bump. Same problem here...
Probably because the wires inside are damaged. If you fiddle around with the cord and you suddenly hear vocals again, it's time to change earphones.
hope this helps
unnefer said:
Hi,
As per the title, when I play music on my SGN3 through my Samsung Galaxy S4 earbud headphones, the vocals are missing?
It almost sounds like some sort of karaoke software is intentionally trying to remove vocals from music during playback lol. Or that the headphone output is set to surround sound and I am only hearing the L and R channels and missing the center vocal channel.
The only sound output option that I can find and change is the HDMI output, which can be set to stereo or surround - however both have no effect at fixing the vocals in music playback through my Samsung earbud headphones.
Music playback is fine when I use other headphones and earbuds.
Is there some hidden sound output option where I can set headphone output to stereo? Or is there a compatibility problem with SGS4 earbug heaphones when used with a SGN3?
All help welcomed
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I too have a similar problem. I adjusted the balance to the left, and to the right. This fixed my problem.
I had similar problem with my new Meelec M-Duo when I plugged it into Galaxy Note 3. Later realized that the phone bumper was obstructing the proper plug in. Without the bumper on on the phone, the headphone works perfect. Just thought of letting you guys know.

The ZTE Axon 7's audio

Hello,
So I'm using the Axon 7 for a few days now and I'm really happy with this device so far.
I listen to music quite a lot myself with Spotify Premium (Extreme Quality) and I do believe that the non-rooted stock Axon 7 ROM provides amazing sound already.
On my previous devices I'd have to unlock the bootloader(, disable system write protection), root and install Viper4Android to get similar audio quality.
I guess I could improve the sound quality even more with Viper4Android now but I don't want to mess with my phone and warranty yet.
There seem to be four audio settings this phone can have on the stock ROM without root:
(1) Dolby Atmos
(2) Headset Standard Hi-Fi audio
(3) Headset Super audio
(4) Nothing? Default?
So I'm guessing the audio settings work like this (excluding sound being played from a Bluetooth device because I don't have such device so I don't know):
(a) Is Dolby Atmos enabled?
Yes, phone uses (1).
No, go to (b).
(b) Is the sound being played through the phone's built-in speakers?
Yes, phone uses (4).
No, go to (c).
(c) So sound is being played from the 3,5 mm audio jack. Is Headset Super audio selected in 'Sound and Vibration' in the phone's settings?
Yes, phone uses (3).
No, phone uses (2).
My opinion when using the:
- phone speakers, the audio sounds better with Dolby Atmos disabled. (Maximum volume seems higher with Dolby Atmos disabled too)
- 3,5 mm audio jack, the audio sounds better with Dolby Atmos enabled with speakerboxes/headphones/earphones.
- 3,5 mm audio jack with Dolby Atmos disabled, the audio sounds the same when comparing Super audio with Standard Hi-Fi audio with speakerboxes/headphones/earphones. (Super Audio is much more amplified though)
Maximum volume differences in my opinion (bigger = louder):
With phone's built in speakers: Nothing/Default > Dolby Atmos
With 3,5 mm audio jack in use: Super audio > Dolby Atmos > Standard Hi-Fi audio
So I wonder what the real difference is between Super audio and Standard Hi-Fi audio except for the amplification.
It would be nice if someone who knows about this could explain me
It seems that Dolby Atmos doesn't work together with the Super audio/Standard Hi-Fi audio settings.
So you can only use one of the three at a time with a headset for instance where Dolby Atmos overrides the Super audio/Standard Hi-Fi audio setting.
I'd love to see some combination like Dolby Atmos + Super audio purely for the amplification only.
And I wonder how the independant dual Hi-Fi chips work like.
Why 2 chips? Is it 1 for audio output/playing and 1 for audio input/recording?
Or maybe 1 for the right audio output channel and 1 for the the left audio output channel?
Do(es) the chip(s) work for all audio output options?
So do(es) the chip(s) work for the phone's built-in speakers as well as for the 3,5 mm audio jack output?
I know this phone is capable of recording in Hi-Fi quality but is that also true if a microphone is connected through the 3,5 mm audio jack?
I don't know so much about the purpose of the independant dual Hi-Fi chips really...
I guess I'm not really the only one wondering about these things or the only one being interested in these things, so if anyone could clarify it, well that would be great!
Thanks in advance!
Cheers,
Abiram26
Why 2 chips? Is it 1 for audio output/playing and 1 for audio input/recording?
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Correct.
Find answers to your few questions here.
http://www.androidauthority.com/taking-audio-next-level-zte-axon-7-706898/
Probably ZTE use 2 DACs because they haven't found single ADC chip in AKM list or wanted to provide less power consumption solution too.
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Regarding different amplification between Super audio and Standard Hi-Fi. I think it is due to only one reason. It indicates that user did change something otherwise no one can hear the difference under normal noise circumstances listening average quality music. There is no technical reason at all.
I am wondering also about the :
- "standard" Hi-Fi
and
- "super (as in superior) enhanced audio performance" Hi-Fi
I think its more than amping ...the soundstage open up. DSP? 32 bit resample?

Bluetooth Music Quality

How the does bluetooth sound for you guys? Mine seems to be worse after the B29 update (not for certain that's when it degraded). I have a decent car stereo setup, but bluetooth distorts and crackles in the mids and highs. It's not unlistenable, but I thought my stereo was on the fritz until I used my 3.5mm input from the headphone jack, which sounds just fine. It can't be that the DAC is that much better, as my other phones sounds fine and this used to.
Do you have any thoughts or experience with something besides a small bluetooth speaker?
And I have tried playing with the Dolby settings. They make no difference with the distortion.
After some perfunctory tests I have noted that Bluetooth audio seems to introduce a significant amount of extra noise at high volumes. Aside from the additional background noise I have not noticed distortions with Bluetooth yet. I have only checked this on B29.
PiArc said:
After some perfunctory tests I have noted that Bluetooth audio seems to introduce a significant amount of extra noise at high volumes. Aside from the additional background noise I have not noticed distortions with Bluetooth yet. I have only checked this on B29.
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Just something to try...I have a BT device hooked to my AVR, and when I stream through that, if I have the volume on my phone up it sounds horrible. If I stream through it with the volume up just 1 click of the volume button, it sounds good. I increase volume at the AVR instead of the phone.
Through Bluetooth hands free working flawlessly to my.(A2017G version)
I'm having 2 LG 1100/2 Sony SBH 80 and 2 SBH 20.
Haven't try it with external speakers(since I don't own any kind) and on my car I'm using the handsfree and not connected to the car audio system.
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I have a A2017G on B05 and a somewhat cheap aukey BT headset: it seems to sound fine for me, no crackling or hissing. Have you tried it on different devices to compare?
A2017U on B29, using Jaybirds Bluebuds X, the sound its great, no distortion or cracking.
I use the Bluetooth on my car stereo too and the sound is excellent. No dolby, but the equalizer works fine.
Did you verify that all your bluetooth devices supports aptx? if not then you will lose sound quality :S
idk, i dont like bluetooth audio streaming... even with aptx. Its not bad but if you want to steam flac music it will still limit the quality. Somehow if i stream the music via bluetooths aptx it sound flat not dynmic and
voluminous.
I haven't tried it with the volume just below full. I'll give it a shot in the morning on my commute.
Other devices (S5 and 6P) sound just fine when paired to my headed unit, so it's likely something with my Axon 7.
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Quick test with the volume just under full seemed better. I'll know more after a drive tomorrow. Thanks everyone.
yamils said:
A2017U on B29, using Jaybirds Bluebuds X, the sound its great, no distortion or cracking.
I use the Bluetooth on my car stereo too and the sound is excellent. No dolby, but the equalizer works fine.
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EQ on on your car stereo or phone? I don't know of an EQ on the phone (maybe I've overlooked something).
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EQ on on your car stereo or phone? I don't know of an EQ on the phone (maybe I've overlooked something).
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On the phone. I meant to say that it's not using the HiFi audio, but the Dolby eq it's fine on Bluetooth. Sorry for the confusion.
I think it sounds about 95% better just one click below full volume. I never would have thought that digital Bluetooth volume would have been the problem, having always set it to 100% with every other device. Thankfully, Tasker makes for a quick fix.
Thanks for the tips and feedback, everyone.

how to get sound better?

Hi guys.
A friend of mine who is good into sound stuff, headphones ,dacs etc recommended me this phone just so I can get better sound over bluetooth and other wired headphones.
I used S7 edge with some average bluetooth buds and got average sound.
Now I got this device,in used condition and I think I have even worse sound then with my S7 edge.
Dolby Atmos is enabled and I'm on Android 7.1.
I expected even better sound over speakers,which is nice but kinda lacks a lot of bass,and sound stages.
Even speakers on my tablet Samsung S5e are way much better in sound.
Yeah sound is nice with my Beyerdynamics MMX300 Gen 2 but so is the sound with them on my S7 edge.
I mean I am not impressed at all with this phone so I thought to ask, maybe I need some other ROM,software etc,huh?
Help is appreciated.
I use mostly average quality bluetooth earbuds,and listen to trance music.
I can name the devices if it's important.
paparazzo79 said:
Hi guys.
A friend of mine who is good into sound stuff, headphones ,dacs etc recommended me this phone just so I can get better sound over bluetooth and other wired headphones.
I used S7 edge with some average bluetooth buds and got average sound.
Now I got this device,in used condition and I think I have even worse sound then with my S7 edge.
Dolby Atmos is enabled and I'm on Android 7.1.
I expected even better sound over speakers,which is nice but kinda lacks a lot of bass,and sound stages.
Even speakers on my tablet Samsung S5e are way much better in sound.
Yeah sound is nice with my Beyerdynamics MMX300 Gen 2 but so is the sound with them on my S7 edge.
I mean I am not impressed at all with this phone so I thought to ask, maybe I need some other ROM,software etc,huh?
Help is appreciated.
I use mostly average quality bluetooth earbuds,and listen to trance music.
I can name the devices if it's important.
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Honestly audio quality over 3.5mm jack is so good on this phone that I still havent found a successor to it. Using it as my daily. In order to get best audio follow this:
First disable Dolby Atmos. It really does not improve the sound, more the opposite. Then check in Audio / HiFi settings that "Super" mode is activated. This will enable AKM4490 chip.
Bluetooth Audio depends on your buds and not your phone. Just make sure in developer options that best available codec is activates. On Sony buds you can enable LDAC (needs Andrioid 8.0 or newer) to get best quality. But no bluetooth buds can match the quality of 3.5mm jack on this phone.
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Honestly audio quality over 3.5mm jack is so good on this phone that I still havent found a successor to it. Using it as my daily. In order to get best audio follow this:
First disable Dolby Atmos. It really does not improve the sound, more the opposite. Then check in Audio / HiFi settings that "Super" mode is activated. This will enable AKM4490 chip.
Bluetooth Audio depends on your buds and not your phone. Just make sure in developer options that best available codec is activates. On Sony buds you can enable LDAC (needs Andrioid 8.0 or newer) to get best quality. But no bluetooth buds can match the quality of 3.5mm jack on this phone.
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I mean I do get good sound over 3.5mm...I thought I will get great sound as well over BT.
All this above is already preconfigured.
Since I purchased used phone,when I plug in headphones into 3.5mm jack,thouse don't go all the way in like on other phones where I can simply feel when the 3.5mm connector goes all the way in.
I suppose I were wrong reagarding bluetooth sound since I mostly use bluetooth headphones.
But thx for help.

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