Root then UnRoot? - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey everyone,
So I just want to go stock because at this point it's the only good option for keeping Android Pay. It's become too troublesome to try and trick the SafetyNet into thinking im not rooted and I honestly don't use root much aside from (force doze). My big issue is I'd like to go to completely stock October security update, but I don't want to lose some of my app data and I hate setting up all my apps again. This is where Titanium Backup comes in handy...
Can I flash the October stock images, flash twrp, flash supersu, install tibu, install apps and data, then uninstall supersu?
The only problem I worry about is that last one, how do I completely wipe supersu after I'm done so that it will pass the SafetyNet?

GatorsUF said:
Hey everyone,
So I just want to go stock because at this point it's the only good option for keeping Android Pay. It's become too troublesome to try and trick the SafetyNet into thinking im not rooted and I honestly don't use root much aside from (force doze). My big issue is I'd like to go to completely stock October security update, but I don't want to lose some of my app data and I hate setting up all my apps again. This is where Titanium Backup comes in handy...
Can I flash the October stock images, flash twrp, flash supersu, install tibu, install apps and data, then uninstall supersu?
The only problem I worry about is that last one, how do I completely wipe supersu after I'm done so that it will pass the SafetyNet?
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Yes. Either uninstall in SuperSU or fastboot flash system and boot to wipe SuperSU away.
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Thanks! I didn't even think of just flashing system/boot again. Easy. I remembered there was a "unsu.zip" at some point, but it doesn't appear to be "supported" so I wasn't sure if I should use it. Flashing seems like a cleaner solution.
As a side note I installed SuperSU and Suhide.zip for now, it seems to work great....only a matter of time I suspect.

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Root checker says I don't have proper root access.

Hey, so my root checker is failing, and I have no idea why. I'm using TWRP and have flashed Illusion mod, however, I don't have any root access to kind of tinker with my CPU levels.
I'm basically thinking I have to re-root my device. MY question is, I spent a lot of time customizing my phone exactly to how I'd want it and I just found this out. If I back up my custom flash, and reroot my device, can I go back into TWRP and restore my backup? Will that mess anything up?
OR most importantly, does anyone know how to give full root access to an already rooted device?
Thanks! I'm almost there with my 100% customized phone, I'm VERY eager and have been having a BLAST learning all this.
ahendowski said:
Hey, so my root checker is failing, and I have no idea why. I'm using TWRP and have flashed Illusion mod, however, I don't have any root access to kind of tinker with my CPU levels.
I'm basically thinking I have to re-root my device. MY question is, I spent a lot of time customizing my phone exactly to how I'd want it and I just found this out. If I back up my custom flash, and reroot my device, can I go back into TWRP and restore my backup? Will that mess anything up?
OR most importantly, does anyone know how to give full root access to an already rooted device?
Thanks! I'm almost there with my 100% customized phone, I'm VERY eager and have been having a BLAST learning all this.
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You won't lose anything if you reroot your device. You don't have to wipe data. Have you tried downloading supersu from the play store and letting it install the binaries? Or flashing supersu through recovery?
cruise350 said:
You won't lose anything if you reroot your device. You don't have to wipe data. Have you tried downloading supersu from the play store and letting it install the binaries? Or flashing supersu through recovery?
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Yeah, I have tried downloading supersu from the play store... but it says it cannot update the binaries. Not sure why.
I'll try flashing supersu from recovery though. Might be a better idea. If I flash supersu through recovery, will it install all the latest binaries as well? Or will I still have to update it later?
edit: flashing the SuperSU worked perfectly!!! I only tried installing it via playstore, not actually flashing it. Thanks a ton!!

Can't Unroot S4?

So, i tried to Root my GF's I9506 with CF-Autoroot.
Safteynet fails and PokemonGo doesn't work, login problems.
I Unrooted trough SuperSU, restarted the phone a couple of times but PoGo still wont login.
She's on Stock Samsung Rom with Stock Recovery.
What can i do?
I was able to Re-Root with SuperSU for some reason. Had to update the binary tho. That's strange...
Shouldnt work if SuperSU unrooted in the first place?
Maybe it leaves files behind. If you're interested, there are ways to hide root from the game.
Anyway, the only sure way to remove root would probably be the flashing of a stock ROM.
Pwnycorn said:
Maybe it leaves files behind. If you're interested, there are ways to hide root from the game.
Anyway, the only sure way to remove root would probably be the flashing of a stock ROM.
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Hmm. She really dosen't want to do a factory reset. so i guess i have to hide it then..
I think there are a few options i think all of them needs another recovery though:
Magisk + Magiskhide + phh
SuperSu, Suhide
Something called iSu.
Might it help to root again, remove anu "Su" files and folders trough ES Filexplorer? Then unroot from SuperSu?
If the phone is running a stock ROM, flashing a stock ROM usually leaves all of the data intact.
Dallebull85 said:
Hmm. She really dosen't want to do a factory reset. so i guess i have to hide it then..
I think there are a few options i think all of them needs another recovery though:
Magisk + Magiskhide + phh
SuperSu, Suhide
Something called iSu.
Might it help to root again, remove anu "Su" files and folders trough ES Filexplorer? Then unroot from SuperSu?
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Removing any root file live might break root, which in turn won't let you remove any of the other files left.
Besides, you don't even know what files to look for.
Having a custom recovery won't affect her usage of the phone, nor the game. Besides, it gives you the benefit of making a Nandroid backup.
Ty for all the answers. So a custom Recovery doesn't trigger Saftynet?
Might as well install TWRP, backup and try to reflash stock rom from there.
Samsung Galaxy S4 International Qualcomm (jfltexx)
Samsung Galaxy S4 LTE Advanced i9506 (ks01lte)
Which one? i suppose its the 9506, flashhing my old CF-autoroot for my 9505(jfltexx) didn't work.
To flash a stock ROM, you need Odin, Samsung phone drivers, and the stock ROM from sammobile.com.
OK. But i'll do a backup on twrp first. Ty ty
Fixed it! Reflashed stock Rom with Odin and now Pogo works again!
Ty a lot for all the help. you guys are the best!

Magisk v11.6 compatible with Droid Turbo Stock ROM

I can confirm that Magisk v11.6 installs and appears to function perfectly on my stock, unrooted, bootloader unlocked MCG24.251-5-5 device. Also, MagiskHide is not enabled by default, so keep this in mind if you're using a work device or any other situation where you might get in trouble for failing safetynet. That's all I know so far.
Go forth and Magisk!!!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445
Pics or it didn't happen
And last, but certainly not least...
So I can root without unlocking the bootloader using sunshine?
Sparksys said:
So I can root without unlocking the bootloader using sunshine?
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No.
Sparksys said:
So I can root without unlocking the bootloader using sunshine?
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No. Sunshine unlocks your bootloader, so you can then root.
Sparksys said:
So I can root without unlocking the bootloader using sunshine?
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There will never be a free root for this device unless you develop it, so you can save yourself the time asking in so many different threads.
Can anyone tell me where you get the "magiskSU" app from I can't find it in that thread.
Tokogon said:
Can anyone tell me where you get the "magiskSU" app from I can't find it in that thread.
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MagicSU is included with the Magisk package. You can enable or disable it using the Magisk Manager app once it is installed.
TheSt33v said:
MagicSU is included with the Magisk package. You can enable or disable it using the Magisk Manager app once it is installed.
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Do you have a screenshot of where I can find it in settings? I've been searching for an hour and I've reset my phone twice and installed it but can't see it lol.
I want to play Pokemon Go so bad again.
Tokogon said:
Do you have a screenshot of where I can find it in settings? I've been searching for an hour and I've reset my phone twice and installed it but can't see it lol.
I want to play Pokemon Go so bad again.
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Sorry, I was wrong about being able to disable it. There doesn't seem to be an option for that. But as long as Magisk Hide is enabled, Pokémon Go works fine for me.
More complicated question:
If I'm rooted via Computerfreek's debloated stock ROM, is there any point to running Magisk--and if so, how would I switch from SuperSU to MagicSU
y8s said:
More complicated question:
If I'm rooted via Computerfreek's debloated stock ROM, is there any point to running Magisk--and if so, how would I switch from SuperSU to MagicSU
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The only advantage gained would be the ability to pass safetynet/use Android Pay/play pokemon go while rooted. To switch, uninstall SuperSU by selecting the full unroot option in the SuperSU app, then flash Magisk.
TheSt33v said:
The only advantage gained would be the ability to pass safetynet/use Android Pay/play pokemon go while rooted. To switch, uninstall SuperSU by selecting the full unroot option in the SuperSU app, then flash Magisk.
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It's mostly for intellectual curiosity and maybe android pay.
But it didn't work--at least how I went about it.
I went into SuperSU and did a full unroot but did not restore the boot image (should I have?)
Then downloaded and flashed the latest 11.6 magisk
When the phone came back up, SU was gone but Magisk didn't re-root it. There were no options to do so.
Tried a second time and wiped caches but no change.
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that Magisk needs the OG boot image to work properly?
y8s said:
It's mostly for intellectual curiosity and maybe android pay.
But it didn't work--at least how I went about it.
I went into SuperSU and did a full unroot but did not restore the boot image (should I have?)
Then downloaded and flashed the latest 11.6 magisk
When the phone came back up, SU was gone but Magisk didn't re-root it. There were no options to do so.
Tried a second time and wiped caches but no change.
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that Magisk needs the OG boot image to work properly?
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I installed it on stock MCG24.251-5-5 and Superuser is an option that appears in Magisk Manager. Yes, you should probably have the stock boot image before installing Magisk. I think the Magisk installer is designed to detect existing installations of SuperSU and not install its own superuser if it's detected, so if the full unroot didn't clean itself up properly for whatever reason, that might be why it didn't install with superuser.
It says:
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-(Recommended) Restore your boot image back to stock
-Download the latest Magisk zip file
-If you choose to use SuperSU (only support Android 6.0+), first flash SuperSU in systemless mode
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Which zip of super su should I flash therefore before flashing magisk zip?
I am currently, after restoring a backup, running your MGC stock with stock kernel, but I try installing bhb27s kernel now.
Ultimately I simply want to hide root+xPosed against my banking app...
€DIT: Wait, so SuperSUB may not be necessary, but is it safe to install magisk over bhb27s kernel?
I would do the following:
-Install newest v44 kernel from March, 12
-Reboot and look if Wi-Fi still works ...
-install Magisk 11.6
-Check if phone still works
-then install a working xposed
-Check if everything works
Is that correct or should I use another kernel version? I don't want another bootloop or damaged wifi^^
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It says:
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-(Recommended) Restore your boot image back to stock
-Download the latest Magisk zip file
-If you choose to use SuperSU (only support Android 6.0+), first flash SuperSU in systemless mode
...
Which zip of super su should I flash therefore before flashing magisk zip?
I am currently, after restoring a backup, running your MGC stock with stock kernel, but I try installing bhb27s kernel now.
Ultimately I simply want to hide root+xPosed against my banking app...
€DIT: Wait, so SuperSUB may not be necessary, but is it safe to install magisk over bhb27s kernel?
I would do the following:
-Install newest v44 kernel from March, 12
-Reboot and look if Wi-Fi still works ...
-install Magisk 11.6
-Check if phone still works
-then install a working xposed
-Check if everything works
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I don't see any problems with that plan, but you should know that xposed will insta-fail safetynet. If you want to hide modifications from anything that uses safetynet, xposed in any form is not an option. The only thing that works for me is Magisk 11.6's built in root, no xposed, no other modifications. With that, I can use Android Pay, Pokemon Go and my banking apps just fine as long as Magisk Hide is turned on. Android Pay and PoGo are blocked by default, but you need to make sure to go in and manually check the box next to every other app that you want to hide stuff from.
Also, if you insist on using SuperSU instead of the built in Magisk root (why???), you will also have to install the latest version of suhide (and I'm not positive that works anymore).
.I did not exactly know Super SU is just an option so I will not install it. Wish me luck
Also I hope there will be a way to hide xPosed however my banking app does not use SafetyNet, there is still hope, I don't care about Pokemon Go.
€DIT::: Everything working perfect - however safetynet fails when checking with Magisks own test. I guess it detects the Bootloader?
€DIT2::: Now after another reboot safetynet is successfully bypassed. My banking app still doesn't work - looks like they found a way that is even better than safetynet.
I just haven't had time to dig up another boot.img and flash it. I might revert back to SuperSU and come back to this later.
Einheit-101 said:
.I did not exactly know Super SU is just an option so I will not install it. Wish me luck
Also I hope there will be a way to hide xPosed however my banking app does not use SafetyNet, there is still hope, I don't care about Pokemon Go.
€DIT::: Everything working perfect - however safetynet fails when checking with Magisks own test. I guess it detects the Bootloader?
€DIT2::: Now after another reboot safetynet is successfully bypassed. My banking app still doesn't work - looks like they found a way that is even better than safetynet.
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Try clearing the data for your banking app. Maybe it's set up so that once it fails, it never checks again. Also, clear cache/dalvik cache in TWRP if you haven't already. Also also, did you remember to block the banking app in magisk hide?

I am rooted, but not happy with my current state

Hey everyone,
I`m running LineageOS on my phone and am rooted using SuperSU which seems to work, according to Rootchecker and the feww apps I use, which make use of root privileges.
But I`m not entirely happy with my current situation, since it seems that more and more apps don`t tend to work with my rooted phone. So what are my ways out of this?
Can I easily unroot my phone, while keeping LineageOS?
Is there a working alternative to SuperSU, which would enable me to stay rooted on LineageOS without reflashing the OS and use Banking-Apps?
I`ve heard of Magisk, but I am unsure of how to switch over from my current state and I`am not sure whether or not it would solve my problems
Thanks for any help in advance!!
Magisk
You just have to go to SuperSU, then Full Unroot, then download Magisk 13.3 and flash it from TWRP. After that you should have Magisk Manager, if for some weird reason you don't, install it via apk
Then you just go to the settings, tick MagiskHide, then go back and open the side panel, MagiskHide - select the apps that you want Magisk to hide itself from
So I tried to do what you said.
I did the full unroot in the SuperSu App,
My phone rebooted
I shut it down again and booted into recovery
Tried flashing Magisk
But it failed, apparently due to my Boot image being patched by another program and told me to go with stock image
What do I do now? And will I lose any data by doing so? Thank you so much for any help!
Weird, but you can simply dirty flash LineageOS (the same one that you have now, or an update, doesn't matter) and it should let you install Magisk.
I did what you said and installed a delta update using LineageOS Downloader. Had to manually flash it in TWRP since I had no root permissions anymore. But I was able to install Magisk like a charm! Now I have to questions:
1. How do I update Magisk? Using the app?
2. Do I have to flash it again everytime I'm updating LOS?
Thanks for the great help so far!
And what exactly are those moduls? Should I be messing with them?
If updates come they will appear on the status bar and you can download them, and they'll install with the phone on. after that you have to (not quick) reboot your phone.
and about the modules, seriously? what do you think??

EngineerMode unroot?

back when engineermode exploit backdoor 'thing' whatever you want to call it, was still a thing i seized to opportunity to gain root access, however since then magisk hide has begun failing me and i would like to either find a way to update magisk from v14.0 safely, or to unroot completely (preferably without wiping) as this has started being problematic. I am on the latest oxygenOS update and i used this guide to root (i originaly linked it here but apparently i cant do that, it was on github, called OneplusRoot by a fella named aldur.)
If anyone can help id really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance
Since One Plus removed engineering mode I'm surprised you were able to update OOS and maintain the exploit. Why don't you just unlock your bootloader and root the proper way? Your phone won't melt if you do.
I would like to avoid wiping if possible. I too am surprised at the persistence of root after at least 3 OTAs. At this point I no longer really need root and would rather my phone run smoothly without some applications crashing or not running due to root.
bump?
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bump?
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As long as your system boots, and you have root, install the latest magisk manager from the magisk thread, and it will prompt you to update. As long as you give magisk manager root access you should be able to do a "direct install" and reboot and should be up to date. Back up your data first though, I'm not responsible for your data loss (but this worked for me)
Same to unroot. Magisk has an uninstall option that should fully unroot you
manor7777 said:
As long as your system boots, and you have root, install the latest magisk manager from the magisk thread, and it will prompt you to update. As long as you give magisk manager root access you should be able to do a "direct install" and reboot and should be up to date. Back up your data first though, I'm not responsible for your data loss (but this worked for me)
Same to unroot. Magisk has an uninstall option that should fully unroot you
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Well my system doesn't boot with root. I have to manually mount something and start the magisk service.
Which is why I'm not sure how to update as I've been told the updated version has a different file structure that the one I'm on.
were you able to unroot? i think i am in the same boot right now, on 4.5.13 with magisk root by engineermode, if you were successful please tell me how
yohouse2 said:
were you able to unroot? i think i am in the same boot right now, on 4.5.13 with magisk root by engineermode, if you were successful please tell me how
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no unfortunately i am still waiting for a solution.
gbesh said:
no unfortunately i am still waiting for a solution.
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When I ran out of options,I unlocked the bootloader (wiped the device), and the new system was unrooted, i then installed Nolimits rom based on OOS 5.1.2
I asked on another thread and another user told me that if you accepted the complete zip update of the OTA prompt the updated system would lose the root, but you wouldn't lose your data or apps, which is nice, but keep in mind you are more probable to have worse performance or battery than clean install
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When I ran out of options,I unlocked the bootloader (wiped the device), and the new system was unrooted, i then installed Nolimits rom based on OOS 5.1.2
I asked on another thread and another user told me that if you accepted the complete zip update of the OTA prompt the updated system would lose the root, but you wouldn't lose your data or apps, which is nice, but keep in mind you are more probable to have worse performance or battery than clean install
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I can confirm this is not the case, i have been updating as the updates roll out and i am now on 5.1.2 and still able to get root access through adb with a locked bootloader.
gbesh said:
I can confirm this is not the case, i have been updating as the updates roll out and i am now on 5.1.2 and still able to get root access through adb with a locked bootloader.
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Well the alternative is another thing i read but can't find, and honestly can't recommend unless you find in too, is that you can delete the apk and the magisk image(don't know which one, this is how bad i remember this), then rebooting would remove the root.
yohouse2 said:
Well the alternative is another thing i read but can't find, and honestly can't recommend unless you find in too, is that you can delete the apk and the magisk image(don't know which one, this is how bad i remember this), then rebooting would remove the root.
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After one of the recent updates, magisk hide started working again and my apps are no longer crashing. It is strange but i guess this situation has turned out favourably after all.

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