Hi all. Just got my P3600 today, very nice indeed.
One complaint (so far!); There's no headphone socket, only a set of pretty crummy headphone with a mini-usb connector. Is it possible to get a mini-usb adaptor so that I can plug in some decent headphones? 3.5mm jack would be best, but 2.5 would do as well.
Thanks for any help!
Lee.
Your best bet at the moment is to cut the original audio cable and put a jack on it. Some adaptors are available, but the ones I´ve tested had a lousy fit. Stupid HTC forgot to offer an adaptor, and include it in the package. We´re complaining for many months now...started with the Tytn.
leecotton said:
Hi all. Just got my P3600 today, very nice indeed.
One complaint (so far!); There's no headphone socket, only a set of pretty crummy headphone with a mini-usb connector. Is it possible to get a mini-usb adaptor so that I can plug in some decent headphones? 3.5mm jack would be best, but 2.5 would do as well.
Thanks for any help!
Lee.
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Expansys (a shop I always try to avoid) sells one for 9.95 pounds
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=142091&asource=HTC _P3600
(available from mid January though)
PS: Am I the only one thinking that the size of the earbuds in the original headset is for elephant's ears?
Lucas0511 said:
Your best bet at the moment is to cut the original audio cable and put a jack on it. Some adaptors are available, but the ones I´ve tested had a lousy fit. Stupid HTC forgot to offer an adaptor, and include it in the package. We´re complaining for many months now...started with the Tytn.
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You are so right. That is the first think I'll do when I get one of these "new and improved" mini USB audio plugs. I have custom headphones for my Jamin now. I bought a nice pair of Koss headpnones and soldered it to a SE P800 headset, which fits in the Jamin.
Expansys also offers a Y splitter so you can have charger on ones side and headphones on the other, both mini USB of course.
Thanks
Thanks for the info chaps. I think I'll try an adaptor from Expansys or somewhere before chopping up my headphone cable!
Lee.
Found a working adapter...
I bought this adapter from www.martinfields.com:
http://www.martinfields.co.uk/produ..._P800W&modeln=most HTC and compatible devices)
It works fine for playing audio with the P3600 and uses a 3.5mm socket, although obviously it doesn't have the phone answer button on it.
Cheap too, although it takes a while to ship from Hong Kong.
Lee.
I ordered one from martin fields as well and it works great.
I have ordered one from shop.brando.com.hk think it was $5 and free shipping in the christmas days
Expecting one from brando
leecotton said:
I bought this adapter from www.martinfields.com:
http://www.martinfields.co.uk/produ..._P800W&modeln=most HTC and compatible devices)
It works fine for playing audio with the P3600 and uses a 3.5mm socket, although obviously it doesn't have the phone answer button on it.
Cheap too, although it takes a while to ship from Hong Kong.
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So, when you are listening to music, and a phone call comes in, can you use the microphone in the phone? Is it muted? In other words, do you have to unplug the headphones to answer a call?
Hi guys I want to use BOSE AROUND EAR/NOISE CANCELLING HEADPHONES on my vogue so i want to buy a usb splitter for same.
also some where i heard that using usb splitter decreaseds the sound quality of headphones
the BOSE uses 3.5MM jack
link to bose:http://www.boseindia.com/retail/bose-product-detail.aspx?Prd_Id=17&Cat_Id=647&Nav_Id=647
link to a htc splitter that i think is the best i saw it's also of original htc
link:http://cgi.ebay.com/3.5mm-USB-Adapt...temQQimsxZ20091223?IMSfp=TL091223214003r14433
so please guys help me coz tghe bose headphones are of around 170$ so i dont wanna waste my money
also is the same headphones also compaitable with BLACKBERRY STORM
i will also use the same headphones on blackberry also
thanks guys
hope a quick reply
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Hi guys I want to use BOSE AROUND EAR/NOISE CANCELLING HEADPHONES on my vogue so i want to buy a usb splitter for same.
also some where i heard that using usb splitter decreaseds the sound quality of headphones
the BOSE uses 3.5MM jack
link to bose:http://www.boseindia.com/retail/bose-product-detail.aspx?Prd_Id=17&Cat_Id=647&Nav_Id=647
link to a htc splitter that i think is the best i saw it's also of original htc
link:http://cgi.ebay.com/3.5mm-USB-Adapt...temQQimsxZ20091223?IMSfp=TL091223214003r14433
so please guys help me coz tghe bose headphones are of around 170$ so i dont wanna waste my money
also is the same headphones also compaitable with BLACKBERRY STORM
i will also use the same headphones on blackberry also
thanks guys
hope a quick reply
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As an audiophile I can't help but giggle a bit, I don't think anything you can buy will really make the vogue sound all that great as the amount of noise to signal produced out of it is way too much - if you are thinking about buying bose headphones I HIGHLY recommend against as well, for $170 a pair of grado labs headphones or high-end sennheiser headphones will sound much much much better and you won't be giving your money to "blowse"
Honestly, your best bet is finding the original splitter that came with the phone and getting the absolute lowest impendence headphones you can - it will produce the absolute best sound you can get out of the phone (it's conditional though, so if you take those very same headphones and put them to another application like a home reciever it'll sound bad there!)
If any of this is confusing, let me know by PM I will gladly help out!
reply!!!!
Thanks for your reply.....
The splitter recevied from supplier doesnot match with bose jack.....so i have to have new splitter for matching bose jack(3.5mm) to enjoy sound....
Company supplied splitter has (1) charger jack & (2) 11 Pin mini USB for original HTC headsets.
So i wish considering above limitations, to enjoy good sound quality, i understood that BOSE is best matched with NOKIA N91......So i have planned to get one for me too provided i am able to fetch original HTC SPLITTER matching with subject BOSE headphones thread.........
Link provided in thread is of orignal HTC Splitter which I think released to use with HTC DIAMOND, Please confirm me that will it work on VOGUE also...if I buy one for me ???????????
lol, i've made my own and it works pretty darn fine. a wire is a wire. i really don't think its going to make a difference. (is pure gold wires really going to make a difference from copper?) but the quality of the magnet and the coils will make a difference no doubt.
but since my creation look ghetto (electric tape ) im planning on buying another.
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lol, i've made my own and it works pretty darn fine. a wire is a wire. i really don't think its going to make a difference. (is pure gold wires really going to make a difference from copper?) but the quality of the magnet and the coils will make a difference no doubt.
but since my creation look ghetto (electric tape ) im planning on buying another.
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Difference between gold wires and copper wires do make some difference if you are looking at a very fine noise band.... but for the Vogue... completely agree with you
Only some people can actually hear the difference, but thats are the audio freaks. And the sound quality also depends on the device itself if it has a good amplifier integrated. (this is where ipods usually get criticized and where the zune is praised) Getting a amp will definatly increase the sound quality. what it does is basically what it is called, it amplifies notes to make them clearer and crisper
Has anyone modified their desktop doc so it can be used to transfer files via the USB connection? I have given up on Samsung making good on the sound output and have opened up the little beastie so I can see what's going on. Headed to electronics shop tomorrow to see about getting a female micro USB connector because I want to ditch the whole circuit board.
Will post some pics of the innards later tonight. Any help or comments are appreciated.
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Theres a fix for audio.... O_0
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Theres a fix for audio.... O_0
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Well, who needs audio. It is in pieces now and going to wire it up so it will charge in the dock, use USB, work with my case on, and have the LED light on.
Got used to this kind of behaviour with my Treo and miss it.
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Did you ever do this? Also can you post pics of the dock taken apart. I want to mod mine to accept the extended battery.
PICTURES PLEASE!!!
Also, how did you get it open? It seems tricky.
I'll have to pile on too -- any pics, Top Nurse?
Or even just a quick outline in how you opened it (presumably without damaging it). I can't figure it out -- at least, so long as I'm not willing to start prying in seams with a screwdriver.
My interest in this has peaked because of the awesome mod that someone (can't find the thread to thank him!!!!) put together -- SGS_Dock_Audio_Fix.apk -- that makes the audio out on the docks work automatically, like they should... insert the Epic, audio switches to the dock jack. Remove it, audio switches back to the speaker.
However, the audio is absolutely horrible. I mean, unlistenable, for me at least.
I suspect this is an artifact of the electronics in the dock -- I'm assuming it's not a direct analog transfer of the signal over the USB datapins, but rather a more "standard" use of the dock as a USB audio device as per USB spec, and therefore the actual D/A conversion is happening on a board inside the dock.
I want to mess with it and see if a) I'm right, and b) if I can fix it.
Otherwise, despite the (once again) correct fix for this from one of our community members, it's still for the most part unusable, thanks to Samsung.
Geez, this whole debacle with the dock-out audio for the Galaxy line is becoming ridiculously pathetic and incompetent. Unbelievably so.
Did anyone ever have any luck looking into the issues with the dock. When I use the one I have if I have the charger plugged in the audio has static and if I unplug the charger the audio is better but it seems like I'm loosing a lot of the bass. I might try tearing mine apart to get a look this weekend but if you guys have already done some work and there is no way to fix it then I'd not attempt it.
That's a great idea. I'm so frustrated with how much Samsung charged for a dock that doesn't work at all out of the box. I'd also like to see pictures. I'm using mine right now to cover up the power light on my computer, while I play Skyrim. It's the most useful it's been yet; it's a perfect fit, and I can still see the HDD light flash.
I tore mine apart last night, and actually didn't damage it. I'll have some pictures later to show how to take it apart and what it looks like.
I'm pretty green when it comes to electronics but the internal board is very simple and it really looks like the output from the epic's usb has the audio on a couple pins, then power on a pin and then ground on another. I think the issue may be that everything is sharing the same ground, the headphone jack and the charging circuit share a ground which might be causing the static.
Like I said, I'll get some pictures posted and maybe somebody out there will have an idea on how to isolate the two circuits better... if it is even possible.
Very interested in this. I haz 3 x desk docks (one each bedside for my wife and me and one for my desk at work) and a car dock. I was hella pissed when the line out on the car dock didn't work because I was tying it into the car kit. Been thinking of drilling through the dock's slider on the car dock to hack in a 3.5mm jack but if I can hack the board in it instead that will be a lot cleaner.
Ok I got some pictures taken. Some are good some are not so good.
If you follow them somewhat in the numerical order it shows the disassembly, I used a thin knife to pop the back plate off, from there it was removing a few small screws and then the front plate came off. After that it was removing a bracket that held the micro usb connector on the dock and then also removing a couple screws that hold the small PCB to the back plate. From there you can fish out the PCB and usb connector.
I did some tracing of the usb charger pins to the usb dock connector and from the headphone jack to the usb dock connector.
I've done some testing and it sounds like with everyting torn apart and plugging things in with the PCB laying on my desk the static on the audio is gone but it still sounds hollow. Note this test was run with power being supplied from a computer usb instead of using a wall plug.
I'm really intersted in the quality of the sound coming over the dock usb connector. I think I may pickup an additional headphone jack from the shack tomorrow and wire it to the correct pins and ground to see if the PCB is causing any interferance.
I need to get my wall plug out to test for static from it as well. Maybe there is a difference between using the Samsung one and my old HTC charger to which I've plugged in a micro usb cable.
I'm not sure what the purpose of the LED on the dock is but it did turn on for me when I had it plugged into the computer, I don't remember it coming on when I plugged it into the wall plug.
I'll update with more info when I do some more testing.
Another note is that you can see that my PCB's solder joints don't look all that uniform, seems some of them might have been reflowed and the PCB is kinda dirty for something that seems like it was pretty air tight when the case was all snapped together.
Found this good thread with information about how the phone knows that it has been inserted into the dock. Does some explaining as to what some of the resistors on the PCB are for. I'm making the assumption some of the other ones are for the LED that is used on the dock.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/epic-4g-accessories/64959-what-triggers-car-dock-mode.html
Looks like the source of that information was here on XDA...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=980937
Just to follow up on this whole mess...
I finally did a kernel test when upgrading to EL30. Looks like the stock kernel does something to make the audio better (more bass, less tinny). Anybody know why the custom kernels make the audio not so enjoyable?
bmasephol said:
Just to follow up on this whole mess...
I finally did a kernel test when upgrading to EL30. Looks like the stock kernel does something to make the audio better (more bass, less tinny). Anybody know why the custom kernels make the audio not so enjoyable?
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The code I brought into the CM7 ShadowKernel must be just enough to get it functional. I will need to do more research and comparisons with the stock kernel code to see if there is more I can add to improve the sound.
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ok so it doesn't look like there is much going on with that board, doesn't look like it could be a DAC at all. so its sending analog sound through the USB port? strange....would be awesome if we could use the voodoo sound stuff with it.
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ok so it doesn't look like there is much going on with that board, doesn't look like it could be a DAC at all. so its sending analog sound through the USB port? strange....would be awesome if we could use the voodoo sound stuff with it.
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bmasephol said:
Just to follow up on this whole mess...
I finally did a kernel test when upgrading to EL30. Looks like the stock kernel does something to make the audio better (more bass, less tinny). Anybody know why the custom kernels make the audio not so enjoyable?
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bmasephol, you sure about that?
One of my E4Gs is on stock EL30. I used a pair of IEM to test this. The sound from the dock is tiny, lacking bass. I compared it side-by-side with another E4G running bbelos' MTD CM7 kernel and they sounded exactly the same. I then plugged the IEM directly to the phone's audio out, and the sound was much better as expected. This all says the USB audio route, as has been said elsewhere and here, doesn't go through the onboard DAC or least much less amplified than the headphone out.
But for me it's not a big deal. In the car, the head unit took care of it (just have to crank it up a bit), and at home, a small T-Amp can do the same.
Bbelos, beside xcaliburinhand's another kernel source, you might want to look at drhonk's CM7 Bali kernel. Roy also has other interesting stuff in some of his Galaxy kernels(like BLN!)
Yes - I may have spoke too soon. I did my tests while my dock was still torn apart. Now at work this morning the dock sounds like **** again...
I'm going to take it home and try again tonight. I swear last night while I was listening to it all torn apart it sounded way better.
I'll update later tonight.
is our phone the only galaxy s that has this problem with audio out through the dock?
I'm going to propose a theory... feel free to shoot it down for those who have more knowledge about this than I do... I'm going back to knowledge I had 15 years ago when I used to work for a company that specialized in digital audio products...
A DAC (digital-to-audio converter) is an actual physical electronic component, which obviously converts a digital stream (1's and 0's) into an analog signal to the output jack. The DAC on the Epic 4g is a Wolfson DAC, pretty decent quality DAC with some nice features that apps like Voodoo Sound can tap in to.
The USB connector on the Epic 4g (which the desk and car docks plug into) is just that - a USB connector, which transfers *digital* information. Audio via USB is (I'm assuming) using some protocol which allows digital audio bits to be transfered over a USB connection. Therefore, the audio coming out of the USB connector is still digital, i.e. *not* being converted to analog inside the phone.
The small circuit board inside the dock has an attached headphone jack, and part of that component including the surrounding circuitry *is in fact a DAC*. In fact, I believe it's a totally crap DAC (compared to the Wolfson DAC used by the Epic's headphone jack). So the docks have their own crap DACs which do the digital-to-analog conversion outside the phone. Therefore, I think it's impossible (or nearly impossible) for a phone app to control the dock DAC (like Voodoo controls the Epic's on-board DAC). Only thing I can think of is to use a music player on the Epic that has a built-in EQ which would affect the sound before it hits the USB output. Either that, or try to replace the DAC on the dock's circuit board, or have a really awesome car stereo which can tweak the sound enough to make it tolerable
If this has already been posted somewhere I apologize, there are a couple threads on this general topic and I haven't kept up with all of them...
Edit: if it's not clear that I'm implying this, another point: I don't think it's possible that the Epic's on-board DAC can possibly affect the audio coming out of the USB connector that the docks use
So I've had the unfortunate experience of having my phone slide off the back of the toilet and right into the water bottom first. Ironically the speaker still works (without its moisture protection) but the headphone jack no longer picks up any head phones.
The question I have is if I get a usbc to 3.5mm audio adapter can I use this for headphones instead? This would seem to be the quickest work around and cheapest. If this is possible does the DAC still work through this port?
My other two options are
- replace the jack (which really doesn't seem all that hard) but there are mixed reviews on these replacements
- bluetooth headphones (no DAC and pricey to get a decent set)
Keep in mind it's been dried out (its been about 5 days) and blasted with air so it's not wet anymore. I unfortunately failed to turn the device off after this (not thinking) so I am pretty sure I could have prevented this damage.
Alternatively it's been dropped probably a dozen times face first, though I don't think this was the cause since the port isn't loose.
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Get USB C audio adapter with DAC.
I have few of them for HTC U11 Life and they also work with V20
mingkee said:
Get USB C audio adapter with DAC.
I have few of them for HTC U11 Life and they also work with V20
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And you can use the DAC with the USB C?
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And you can use the DAC with the USB C?
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Yes, audio is decoded with built in chip.
I just got my adapters this morning, one with a built in DAC and another without. The regular one actually sounds better.
Obviously I don't expect much from a 13 dollar "hifi" usb c adapter but I didn't expect it to make the sound worse.
I pretty much knew this already but the built in Quad DAC on the v20 doesn't work through the port (at least the option to enable it doesn't work), the sound is perfectly fine in my opinion though.
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Earlier this week, I was a little irritated to discover the USB-C to headphone adapter that was included with my new Galaxy Tab S5e didnt work with my new Note 10+. It seems the required DAC technology and/or pinout is NOT integrated within the USB-C interface on the N10 like it is on the S5e. Therefore, any "dumb" pigtail adapter will not work. Again, a pigtail with a quality external DAC is needed with the Note 10/+, such as the Samsung adapter offering, which is only available in WHITE as far as I can tell. There is NO way I am overpaying for a funky white pigtail on my pretty black N10+. I can only conclude the included AKG earbuds that where in the N10 box have the DAC integrated within the cable or earpieces themselves.
After some research, I ordered the BENFEI universal USB-C to 3.5mm headphone adapter pigtail for just under $10 from Amazon. It arrived today and looks great with the braided nylon outer sleeve, black finish, and snug fit both on the USB-C and 3.5mm Jack side. Most importantly, it works 100% with the N10 and even allows for accessory control!
You can review and get the adapter here: https://www.amazon.com/Headphone-Adapter-Type-C-Compatible-Samsung/dp/B07RMY3V9D
Enjoy!
Wait...sorry...
Are we not going to talk about the fact Samsung removed the DAC from N10?!??
I'm absolutely furious. Don't even get me started on what the above means in terms of gaming. Has anyone tried Buds + Fornite/Pubg/fps games?
This is a disgrace. I cannot believe they would skimp out especially WHEN WE JUST** REMOVED THE HEADPHONE JACKKKKK from the lineup.
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