Anyone have any idea on this?
Reviews seem to suggest NITS below 500, down into the 300's.
And yet some users seem to be reporting the phone is much brighter than 500 nits.
This phone looks really good to me and I'm craving a new phone at the moment.
But I use my phone under direct sunlight quite often so anything other than a Samsung Galaxy S or Note, or the Moto X Pure I have now, just isn't bright/legible enough in sunlight. Even these phones aren't what I would call "good" but are unfortunately the best we have right now.
Axon vs Opo 3.
Opo 3 looked better in sunlight, especially from angles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wM_0ZFYDWU
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Hey guys
I'm thinking to buy the 7" Tab Plus or the 7.7" one(when they will appear ) and I was wondering if any of you have any experience with PLS LCD and Super Amoled Plus displays.
Which one is better,in terms of quality,power usage,etc
I googled for that but it didn't help much,and i'd prefer to hear from someone who saw in real life both displays
As we know both are made bu samsungand both are the best in market (even better than the ipad IPS Screen ) but Pls screen has more natural colours like what we see with our eye in real world . Amoled colours are so vivid like animation movies ,etc but it is very good in power saving and better in black color . Finally it depends on your taste and how you prefere to see colors and you should see both side by side to decide but personally I hated my friends galaxy s2 after I compared it to my galaxy tab 10.1
advice : (buy galaxy tab 7.7 higher resolution , better processor ,thinner and easier to handle )
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thanks for your answer
seems it will be a tough choice,and i will have to wait till both will be on stores so i can compare myself although the 7.7 price is kinda much..around 700 euros
I like the natural colours so i guess i will go with 7 plus
Anyway,in the meantime if someone else has other opinions pls share
I would say Super AMOLED Plus hands down. It's true that the AMOLED displays portray images more vivid and with very deep contrast, but I wouldn't say that the colors are unnatural, in fact I find it to be a major advantage of the 7.7, it will make movies that much better. The Super AMOLED Plus displays also don't have a backlight so they are much thinner and use less power. This is technology much more advanced than the panels in today's TVs. The Super PLS displays Samsung makes (what the 7.0 Plus has) are also very good, some say better than the IPS displays in tablets, but it's still an LCD, not quite as good as the Super AMOLED Plus in my opinion.
Also do not forget that the 7.7 display is higher resolution at 1280 x 800, the 7.0 Plus is 1024 x 600, and in my opinion it will make a big difference especially in Honeycomb. But don't let any of us persuade you in your decision, if you can, go look at them side by side in person and decide for yourself. We don't know what the 7.7 will cost yet, but I imagine the 7.0 Plus will be cheaper so if that is an important factor for you then it wouldn't be unwise to consider it.
As far as other specs go, the 7.7 is a bit thinner and lighter and has a bigger battery, a slightly faster processor, and a 64GB option.
Ok,thank you both for answer
Well yeah the price is an important factor..the 7 plus will cost 300 euros and the 7.7 will cost almost 700 euros so I will stick with the 7 plus for now
Here is a video which shows both side by side if someone else is interested to see
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHOxPJBgieg
My first conclusion is that the super amoled looks brighter and colours are different than the ips pls one,but they ask too much..i will get it in a year or so when it will be half of price
One major Challenging issue, in my opinion,is the screen brightness levels
>>>especially on direct sunlight:
In this interesting link CNET has been doing Screens test of : Galaxy Note 2 vs. Apple iPhone 5
It would be GR8 if we can "custom control mega boost brightness" upon individual use....
and try to get close to iphone 5 outdoor brightness
Anyone willing to face the challenge
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I dont know why you misplaced the thread since I know you are a long time user, but pease do not do it again.
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This confirms my finding that Note 2 no longer has the "immeasurable" black levels like that in S1 and S2! They are more like this year's Panasonic Plasma TVs which is quite a disappointment as I have got used to the true blacks in S1 and S2 and they look quite gray and underwhelming in Note 2 even if latter has better accuracy and resolution. Also the viewing angles are significantly compromised with off axis bluish tint which dint exist in S1 or S2 either. Poor show Samsung!
S5 didn't really excite me as much as previous galaxy releases but I would still be willing to upgrade if the outdoor visibility has improved even a bit, which is something they claimed. Can anyone that has the phone or has played with it (outdoors or at least near a window with the sun up) confirm that it has better outdoor visibility when compared to S4? If it IS better, is the difference negligible or comparable to that of an IPS LCD?
e: been looking online for reviews and hands-on videos but none seem to touch on the topic
e2: Found an article finally. All signs point to a much better screen all around
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...-OLED-screen-to-date-can-hit-698-nits_id54767
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S5 didn't really excite me as much as previous galaxy releases but I would still be willing to upgrade if the outdoor visibility has improved even a bit, which is something they claimed. Can anyone that has the phone or has played with it (outdoors or at least near a window with the sun up) confirm that it has better outdoor visibility when compared to S4? If it IS better, is the difference negligible or comparable to that of an IPS LCD?
e: been looking online for reviews and hands-on videos but none seem to touch on the topic
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The S4 has the lowest glare coefficient of any device DisplayMate has seen. The S5 will most likely be better.
I did a bit of research on this today. Even posted a similar question just minutes after you did.
The S5 has 500 nits brightness. The S4 struggled to hit 300 nits. So, the S5 should be ~40% brighter. As long as the screen isn't overly reflective, then the S5 should be light years better for daylight / sunlight visibility.
What I'd like to know is how it compares to the Note 3 which is the current leader [for Android] when it comes to daylight visibility. I'd also like to know how the S5 compares with the Xperia Z2.
S4 has the lowest light reflection coefficient (least glare) of anything ever tested at DisplayMate. They haven't tested the Note 3, but with the higher brightness I guarantee the S5 will be on top.
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S4 has the lowest light reflection coefficient (least glare) of anything ever tested at DisplayMate. They haven't tested the Note 3, but with the higher brightness I guarantee the S5 will be on top.
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Sounds great. I don't know about other people but in the Miami sun it's usually hard to see my S4 on auto-brightness with power saving turned off
Ah. It's brightness was fairly low, but the glare was also insanely low. With the S5 being so bright, it should be pretty good
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S5 didn't really excite me as much as previous galaxy releases but I would still be willing to upgrade if the outdoor visibility has improved even a bit, which is something they claimed. Can anyone that has the phone or has played with it (outdoors or at least near a window with the sun up) confirm that it has better outdoor visibility when compared to S4? If it IS better, is the difference negligible or comparable to that of an IPS LCD?
e: been looking online for reviews and hands-on videos but none seem to touch on the topic
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Its way brighter outdoor.
One review I read said that the M8 on auto was impossible to use in the sun with polarized sunglasses. The S5 has had no issues on everything I've read.
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One review I read said that the M8 on auto was impossible to use in the sun with polarized sunglasses. The S5 has had no issues on everything I've read.
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So far so good for me on the S5.
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Found this article and remembered posting a question here. For those of you that are still curious: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...-OLED-screen-to-date-can-hit-698-nits_id54767
Samsung Display also talks about things like the diamond pixel arrangement of the display, and its power efficiency (27 percent more efficient than Full HD LCD displays of the same size). It’s basically another confirmation, this time from the horse’s mouth, that the Galaxy S5 has one of the nicest displays ever seen on a smartphone, and also goes to show how far Samsung’s AMOLED displays have come in a matter of four years.
Guys, the Note 3 is the best Android superphone for being able to read the display outside in direct sunlight / daylight.
My Galaxy S4 sucks in comparison and I need my next phone to be better.
Has anyone compared the S5 to the Note 3 in this regard? Is the S5 just as good as the Note 3?
Looks like the S5 tested better in sunlight than the current leader in this category, the Note 3.
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S5_ShootOut_1.htm
There are many more important and challenging issues for displays than just pixel resolution. For the Galaxy S5, Samsung has instead concentrated on improving the Maximum Brightness, Screen Reflectance, performance in High Ambient Light, Absolute Color Accuracy, Viewing Angles, display power efficiency, and running time on battery. We’ll cover these issues and much more, with in-depth comprehensive display tests, measurements and analysis that you will find nowhere else.
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The S5's AMOLED screen retains its full HD resolution while getting a very slight size increase to 5.1 inches, and it looks as sharp and as vibrant as ever, with strong colours and good viewing angles. We didn't get a chance to pit it against the Barcelona sun, but it seemed bright enough to cope with outdoor use.
I've read reviews that claim:
- Not as bright as the Note 5
- Just as bright as the Note 5
- As dim as the Nexus 6 (last years)
- Dim, but bright when adaptive brightness turned off.
So, anyone know for sure? A cd/m2 measurement would be great. The brightness of the original Nexus 6 was a big disappointment.
hatcyl said:
I've read reviews that claim:
- Not as bright as the Note 5
- Just as bright as the Note 5
- As dim as the Nexus 6 (last years)
- Dim, but bright when adaptive brightness turned off.
So, anyone know for sure? A cd/m2 measurement would be great. The brightness of the original Nexus 6 was a big disappointment.
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Friends on what you consider dim/bright to be.
Majority say no problem in bright sun, so it's "bright" enough.
There is an app for the Nexus 6 to blast the screen real bright when outdoors. I have not tried it, but I've read ppl like it. If the P is not bright enough I'm sure an app will be available for cranking the brightness up.
356 nits ....but im hoping it can be more based on many of the (almost as bright as note 5)
Nexus 6 was 270.....so much broghter than last year, but much dimmer than note 5.
By Much i mean 30% more than last year but 30% less than note 5.....
I think it should be fine. Nexus 5 is 400 but I have never turned it above 75% even outdoors. 356 would be at the high end but I have no worries about it.
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Brightness seems to be pretty sad unfortunately :-/
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Google-Nexus-6P-Review_id4110
Another thing we have to point out is its poor visibility outdoors when the sun is present – it washes out tremendously to the point that it’s unusable unless we shield it. Achieving a maximum luminance of 356 nits, it’s not as potent as the Nexus 5X mark of 487 nits, and nowhere close to the blinding 593 nits reached by the iPhone 6s Plus.
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I heard you turn off adaptive brightness mode and the phone gets brighter, like it said above.
Wait this is less brighter than the LG G3.......and the LG G4 is the one I have and it's the darkest most uncomfortable handset to use with minimal sun.... wtf??? *cancels order* I'm just gonna wait for nexus I/O 2017 this is horrible... but I doesn't make sense why every reviewer says it's the brightest screen they've seen thus far....smh
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You have to take into account that brightness isn't the only thing that matter for readability under very high ambient luminosity.
Screen reflectivity, contrast and color saturation are as important as brightness. And the LG G4 (like most of the LCD) is very reflective, not even close to an AMOLED in contrast and can't achieve the same saturation that what is possible with an AMOLED panel.
In fact, if you go read a GSMArena review, you will see that under direct sunlight, the G4 isfar less readable than a Motorola Nexus 6...
Reflectivity etc is important, I agree. But I am hoping that the nits readings are with the standard adaptive brightness etc on. The mid 300s isn't as great as I'd like, and is around the overall average.
Nevertheless, the UK winter is coming and sunlight readability becomes a moot point!
I agree that 350nits is average at best.
But the biggest problem, IMO, is that the display on the 6P seems to be not as close to the glass as the latest Samsung devices. This will lead to an higher reflectivity.
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Wait this is less brighter than the LG G3.......and the LG G4 is the one I have and it's the darkest most uncomfortable handset to use with minimal sun.... wtf??? *cancels order* I'm just gonna wait for nexus I/O 2017 this is horrible... but I doesn't make sense why every reviewer says it's the brightest screen they've seen thus far....smh
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Thats a big problem IMO. The brightness level is pitiful. Why Google?
Anyone trying to defend the brightness is out of touch. The tests from a few posts
above is conclusive. I held off ordering to see if there were any things that would come up
in initial reviews. Battery life seems also to be hit and miss.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Google-Nexus-6P-battery-life-test-score-average-in-active-use_id74853
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Very poor brightness
Just got the 6P. Don't like the brightness at all. Am coming from the G3 and it's really sad. The Galaxy S6 is awesome. I always keep the phone at max brightness. Damn the battery, I say. I thought initially that perhaps the adaptive brightness setting was enabled. But it's not.
On paper it's brighter than the Nexus 6. But looking at them side by side, I don't see it even remotely brighter.
I hope that it's not really a limitation in the hardware and can be increased with a software mod.
i just walked outside in california sun at 1:00pm. i can read texts just fine. might have hard time looking at dark images because well black is...not lit... but i rather have little dimmer screen to preserve battery life and plus less prone to burn-ins.
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Just got the 6P. Don't like the brightness at all. Am coming from the G3 and it's really sad. The Galaxy S6 is awesome. I always keep the phone at max brightness. Damn the battery, I say. I thought initially that perhaps the adaptive brightness setting was enabled. But it's not.
On paper it's brighter than the Nexus 6. But looking at them side by side, I don't see it even remotely brighter.
I hope that it's not really a limitation in the hardware and can be increased with a software mod.
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Well. That's sad to hear :/ I guess I'll stick with my $250 500+ cd/m2 Idol 3.