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[Q] Is root persistent through OTA update?

I'm looking to root my phone but I don't want to flash any new bootloader or custom roms. I'm under the impression that I'll still be able to get OTA updates if I do this. My question is if I download and install an OTA update will I still have root on the phone or will it remove root? Thanks!

psyphris said:
I'm looking to root my phone but I don't want to flash any new bootloader or custom roms. I'm under the impression that I'll still be able to get OTA updates if I do this. My question is if I download and install an OTA update will I still have root on the phone or will it remove root? Thanks!
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I was still able to receive and apply the OTA after rooting, but the OTA did cause me to lose root. But re-rooting was pretty painless.

Its sure than rooting phone you receive OTA and can install it?? If yes, I want to root my phone, only root, i dont want to change anything more for receiving OTAs.
How can I do? just only root, any link to the safest way?
Is the same way when I receive an OTA and i have to root again?
many thanks.

1. You can use an app called OTA Rootkeeper. Use it to hide root before you accept an OTA, then use it to restore root after.
2. Yes, you can use adb commands (possibly the Nexus 4 toolkit as well) to temporarily flash clockwork recovery and obtain root. You will need to unlock the bootloader though, and that will factory reset your device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1993331

Nospin said:
1. You can use an app called OTA Rootkeeper. Use it to hide root before you accept an OTA, then use it to restore root after.
2. Yes, you can use adb commands (possibly the Nexus 4 toolkit as well) to temporarily flash clockwork recovery and obtain root. You will need to unlock the bootloader though, and that will factory reset your device.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1993331
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Good advice for OTA Rootkeeper! If I head down this path I'll make sure to use that. I'm still looking around for the best way to root without unlocking the bootloader or factory reseting.

Superuser contains a built in 'try and preserve root' function which worked well when I updated to 4.2.1

[Q] Lost root access after 4.2.2 update

My N4 was on 4.2.1 and I managed to root it using the video guide here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV355YEDzc8&list=FLym1yJ2TTTjBZbty0DrqsKQ&index=3). It worked fine and I was using Titanium Backup with root access.
Then my phone notified me of the 4.2.2 update so I installed it OTA. I thought I still had root because SuperSU was still there. However, when I load Titanium Backup it says:
"Sorry, I could not acquire root privileges. This application will *not* work! Please verify that your ROM is rooted, and try again. This attempt was made using the /system/xbin/su" command"
I then installed a Root Checker (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.joeykrim.rootcheck&feature=nav_result) which indicates "This device does not have proper root access".
My questions are
How do I regain root access in a way that doesn't cause a full wipe of my data?
Will I have to do this every time I apply an official Nexus update?
What is the best way to apply an official Nexus update maintaining root without having data wiped?
TIA

I personally use the toolkit and option four. Every time I install an update, I lose root, but the toolkit easily restores it each time.
Sent from my Nexus 4

I too lost my root when i got 4.2.2 OTA. I used WugFresh's toolkit and rerooted with it. I also flashed the CWM custom recovery, which I've read prompts you to keep your root after rebooting with an OTA update.
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If you have cwm and you install any update that breaks root it will ask of you want to keep root when you choose to reboot the nexus 4.
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This must be about the 100th time someone posts this question.
Some of you clearly are too lazy to search or read
Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2145848.

[Q] Root lost with OTA update

So the title pretty much says it all. I don't need root very much. Just for fixing the bluetooth with my Nyko Playad. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2138911
Anyway I installed the OTA 4.2.2 update and then I discovered my root wasn't working anymore. I have relocked my bootloader since rooting the first time and I know that if I root again I will lose all my apps will be deleted.
Last time I rooted I use the Nexus 7 toolkit to backup my apps. But certain apps like Need for Speed most wanted didn't backup. So when I restored my backed up apps some of them never appeared again and I lost all my progress.
If I re-root how can I be sure that all my apps will be backed up completely with all their data backed up as well?

Buy the paid-version of SuperUser, and you wouldn't have this problem...
Just sayin.....

Look up carbon in the play store. It will allow you to backup user apps+ data to your PC (if you get the paid version i believe it can sync up to google drive or dropbox to name a few) if you are not rooted. That way you can keep your games positions and apps data, unlock and root, then restore via carbon.

You didn't need to re-lock the boot loader to gain root back. (But now you DO.)
For OTAs that replace the recovery partition, you really only need two steps to gain back root:
- flash a custom recovery (need unlocked boot loader for this) into the recovery partition
- restore the setuid/setgid permission bits on the "su" binary, e.g. with the custom recovery running:
Code:
adb shell mount /system
adb shell chmod 6755 /system/xbin/su /system/bin/su
Alternately (instead of the step above) you could just re-flash a SuperSU/Superuser root kit, or use a "rootkeeper" app.
Any way you slice it it's not much work.
BTW - there will certainly be more OTAs - it's a Nexus device after all.

Thank you everybody.
I will definitely be purchasing the paid version of SuperUser so that I can keep my root after OTA updates.
I'm currently using carbon to back everything up. Then I will unlock, root, and relock. I keep my bootloader locked for security.

Ota rootkeeper will work too, but yes, you will always lose root after an update. How easy you regain it is up to your configuration.

Root and OTA updates?

So im rooted on my G5Plus US can i just updated it or do i have to install in some other way?

Yes, you can!
However, it's not trivial. I'm writing a guide.
In any case, you need to use SYSTEMLESS root (for example, with Magisk), and a backup of your SYSTEM, OEM, RECOVERY & BOOT partitions.
And to complete the OEM backup with TWRP we need that some developer will update it.
Regards.

Best backup method before OTA update for systemlessly rooted mi a1

So it's the end of february and we should get the OTA update any day now, so what's the best way to backup your phone data before following a guide on updating the phone running systemless root with magisk. I believe that it won't fail, but anything can happen, so I want to be safe, I would backup the important apps with titanium backup and store it on my pc, but do you have a better method for doing a backup in a case like this?