my carrier nex-tech wireless has the moto x. can I pull the image off of it and flash it over another moto x (ie Verizon or us cellular)?
the reason I'd need to do this is I recently upped my contract before the moto x came out and Motorola is selling the moto x on cyber Monday for 150 off.
i have a friend with the nextech moto x and could pull the details. I just wanted to make sure everything would work before I bought one though.
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my carrier nex-tech wireless has the moto x. can I pull the image off of it and flash it over another moto x (ie Verizon or us cellular)?
the reason I'd need to do this is I recently upped my contract before the moto x came out and Motorola is selling the moto x on cyber Monday for 150 off.
i have a friend with the nextech moto x and could pull the details. I just wanted to make sure everything would work before I bought one though.
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I assume they're a CDMA carrier? You could probably flash the firmware and baseband, but that might not work, plus you'd need an unlocked bootloader to do that.
Best thing to do would be to bring a CDMA Moto X into one of their locations and see if it can be activated.
Is there a way to turn my Verizon Moto X into the Developer Edition? I don't want custom Roms. I just want to get updates faster, like the same time the developer edition gets an update. Thanks
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drtyhry31 said:
Is there a way to turn my Verizon Moto X into the Developer Edition? I don't want custom Roms. I just want to get updates faster, like the same time the developer edition gets an update. Thanks
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You will get the update at the same time the Verizon Developer Edition gets it. 4.4.2 hasn't been pushed to Verizon customers yet. Since Verizon is CDMA, we have to wait for the Verizon 4.4.2 to be released.
If you bought your Moto X from Verizon or Moto Maker, there is no way to unlock the bootloader. If you want a Verizon Dev Ed and have an upgrade available, check out my thread about a Free Verizon Dev Ed using an upgrade. Takes some work, but can be done.
How to Get a FREE Verizon Dev Ed if You Have an Upgrade Available
You could sell your current Moto X, too on swappa after you get your Verizon Dev Ed.
Thanks for the info Cozume, I'll just have to be patient.
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I'm almost considering getting a Dev and swapping my moto maker parts to it. Almost....
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drtyhry31 said:
Is there a way to turn my Verizon Moto X into the Developer Edition? I don't want custom Roms. I just want to get updates faster, like the same time the developer edition gets an update. Thanks
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All the Verizon X's use the same rom... Developer, Moto Maker, Retail, they use the same rom.
Only real difference is that the Dev Ed comes only with black face, woven white back, and silver button/accents, and last but certainly most important is its bootloader can be unlocked for easy rooting and developing.
The Retail and Moto Maker X for Verizon can't have their bootloaders unlocked. I've read posts saying its due to eFuse, which can't be undone, but don't quote me on that.
Sell it and buy one. Only way it'll happen.
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If you want updates faster participate in the Motorola feedback program.
Save me from having to get the Nexus 6 monstrosity.
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Save me from having to get the Nexus 6 monstrosity.
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this only factor its keeping me from over hype myself to this phone, if someone roots and unlocks bootloader this beast. will be the android phone of the year on size specs and battery.
That's where I am. N6 is too big. I have a Moto X and Nexus 7 (both 2013), and the N6 is just too big, based on the PhoneArena size comparisons. I need root, so the N6 has a slight advantage right now.
I love the idea of a Nexus phone, but the Turbo has most of the features I would want, like Moto Apps (same/similar to Moto X), wireless charging, amazing battery, and it's not so big. I know the N6 will be easy to root/unlock, but I don't if that is enough to outweigh the size.
Price is still an unknown on the Turbo, too. I have to think it's less than the $649 of the N6.
Semi-related.. Another thing I was thinking about the other day.. the Turbo has capacative buttons, with no menu button. My Moto X has on-screen buttons and does show the three dots from time to time that works as a menu button on the right side of the nav bar. How would the Turbo handle such a situation? Would the developer be forced to make a menu button somewhere in their app?
Don't forget about the note 4
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I'm confident we'll get root. Almost every phone out there has gotten root, most without much delay.
Time will tell though
This might be the first phone I might not care about root. I don't use hotspots. Its 90% pure Android with actually useful extra features. With 3 gigs of ram and that battery, do I really care about bloat apps? I think maybe unicon and xposed might be my only reasons. And there not just haves. Of course I want root. Its my phone. But it won't be a deal breaker for me.
I've been spoiled by Xposed, and do use hotspot for my N7. I also use some Tasker profiles that need root, so it's kind of a must for me. I agree with @rajuabju, at the rate things have been going, it won't be more than a few months. Who knows, maybe this latest Moto exploit will work. Or maybe the middleman will have codes for the Turbo. We'll know in a few weeks, I guess.
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I've been spoiled by Xposed, and do use hotspot for my N7. I also use some Tasker profiles that need root, so it's kind of a must for me. I agree with @rajuabju, at the rate things have been going, it won't be more than a few months. Who knows, maybe this latest Moto exploit will work. Or maybe the middleman will have codes for the Turbo. We'll know in a few weeks, I guess.
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Lol, exactly why I won't get a phone without root. Xposed and the hacked hotspot app for VZW. Also why I would like it "permanently" unlocked (like the RAZR HD was - a blown fuse that can't be fixed or "patched" once destroyed), easier to flash SuperSU.zip onto the phone after every update without worrying about "is it safe to take the update or not? Will I lose root?"
How much success has there been unlocking bootloaders on these Verizon Motorola devices in the past year or two?
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How much success has there been unlocking bootloaders on these Verizon Motorola devices in the past year or two?
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My Verizon Moto Maker Moto X is unlocked. The Chinese middleman was unlocking Moto X and another Moto phone.. Maxx or Ultra, maybe?
And SunShine seemed to work on most Droids.
Unless you were being sarcastic, in which case, you got me.
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My Verizon Moto Maker Moto X is unlocked. The Chinese middleman was unlocking Moto X and another Moto phone.. Maxx or Ultra, maybe?
And SunShine seemed to work on most Droids.
Unless you were being sarcastic, in which case, you got me.
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No, wasn't trying to be sarcastic at all. I've been rolling with my S3 for the past 2.5 years and haven't been paying very much attention outside of that. I was somewhat aware that it was possible to pay some...one...thing...idk to get some of these Motorola devices unlocked--what a strange situation that is.
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How much success has there been unlocking bootloaders on these Verizon Motorola devices in the past year or two?
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I would say there are probably equal odds that SunShine works for Turbo, or that Moto patched it. But given the propensity to root/unlock devices, it will happen rather quickly.
Sunshine won't work for the Droid Turbo, yet.
It only works for 4.4.3 and below, the Turbo will undoubtedly be released on 4.4.4 or 5.0, but that doesn't mean it won't eventually work. It's the only hope though.
I've been out of the CDMA loop for years and years and years now. Don't these phones use SIMs now? Is it just a matter of software unlocking GSM frequencies or is it still completely different hardware?
I was a phablet user for 2 years but went back to a N5 and am actually liking the smaller form factor, and would get this over the N6. A stock 5.0 port making this GPe would sure be sweet.
This phone looks geeat, but I'm on TMo.
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I've been out of the CDMA loop for years and years and years now. Don't these phones use SIMs now? Is it just a matter of software unlocking GSM frequencies or is it still completely different hardware?
I was a phablet user for 2 years but went back to a N5 and am actually liking the smaller form factor, and would get this over the N6. A stock 5.0 port making this GPe would sure be sweet.
This phone looks geeat, but I'm on TMo.
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The SIM is for LTE only, I believe. The rest is done over CDMA. I believe the N6 has a US edition and a world edition, so the US edition will work with all major carriers on all bands and won't really be "different". The Droid line is Verizon exclusive, so it will be locked to CDMA and Verizon's LTE bands.
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No, wasn't trying to be sarcastic at all. I've been rolling with my S3 for the past 2.5 years and haven't been paying very much attention outside of that. I was somewhat aware that it was possible to pay some...one...thing...idk to get some of these Motorola devices unlocked--what a strange situation that is.
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you could pay a middle man to send you an unlock code but you needed to pass along your IMEI number to get it...now, sunshine seems to unlock just about all of the Moto phones from 2013 afaik...
i HIGHLY doubt sunshine will work out of the box on a Turbo..but heres to hoping...
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you could pay a middle man to send you an unlock code but you needed to pass along your IMEI number to get it...now, sunshine seems to unlock just about all of the Moto phones from 2013 afaik...
i HIGHLY doubt sunshine will work out of the box on a Turbo..but heres to hoping...
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I used the MiddleMan for my Moto G while I was on a prepaid Verizon plan. $45 well spent.
I was VERY lucky to have gotten my Verizon HTC One M7's bootloader unlocked the first day it came out Verizon blundered and didn't turn off that capability through HTC right away.
Will this beast be available worldwide or only in the US ?
PLEASE say worldwide.
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Will this beast be available worldwide or only in the US ?
PLEASE say worldwide.
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PLEASE don't troll threads with your stupid questions that have nothing to do with the topic.
Metfanant said:
you could pay a middle man to send you an unlock code but you needed to pass along your IMEI number to get it...now, sunshine seems to unlock just about all of the Moto phones from 2013 afaik...
i HIGHLY doubt sunshine will work out of the box on a Turbo..but heres to hoping...
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If you're going to comment on a dev forum, at least understand the terminology before you use it... otherwise it makes you seem ignorant. "UNLOCKED" and "UNLOCKING THE BOOTLOADER" are two very different things that have ZERO to do with one another.
All LTE CDMA phones for the past 2 years that use a SIM are "unlocked", as this refers to the carrier lock that is placed on the device when it is sold in bulk to network providers (which is why you have three network settings in your phones setting menu - LTE, GSM, and Global). Don't use terminology you don't understand, as you're adding to the ignorance too many seem to have about what unlocking is and what unlocking a bootloader is. It makes it only that much harder for other individuals to get the correct information, and is the reason why a VZW rep tried to tell me I don't need a developer edition to unlock my phone, because all LTE devices are unlocked when I tried to explain I was looking for a developer edition so I could unlock the bootloader.
Very few Verizon phones have the capability to unlock the phone's bootloader, which allows for rooting without an exploit and the ability to flash custom ROMs (firmware), such as Cyanagenmod. Those of you believing root will appear on any new Motorola phones are not well versed in Motorola phones sold by Verizon. Dan Rosenberg, who is the person anyone with a Motorola device on Verizon has to to thank for the last half decade of being able to root your Motorola VZW phones, has repeatedly posted on numerous threads for over a year to not expect for your Motorola devices to be rooted and if you want root, either buy a Nexus or buy a Developer Edition (if VZW is going to release any more editions after the S5 is not known and information about Developer Editions for the Note 4 Droid Turbo have been repeatedly ignored by VZW's Public Affairs office). This is due to the fact VZW has wizened up and made finding an exploit on anything past 4.4.4 nigh impossible. Exploits that allow root access are not easy to find (taking several months for most VZW Moto root exploits) and as soon as one is found, within a matter of weeks, if not days, VZW will push an automatic update, forcing your phone to update to patch the exploit. This is why when you root your phone you're told to disable OTA updates at the apk level by freezing the update apk or removing it all together after making a backup of it.
Many Motorola users got a surprise in late Spring when a Moto employee "accidentally" included the exploited code that allowed you to blow the fuse and unlock the bootloader of devices running 4.4.2. That was a once in a billion opportunity that will probably never happen again. Every time an exploit has been found that allowed root access or the ability to unlock the bootloader (which was only recently cracked in the past year, possibly two... to put that in perspective, it took over half a decade for Dan Rosenberg to find the exploit that allowed the internal fuse to be blown, unlocking the bootloader). Exploits are not easy things to find, especially in Motorola devices running on VZW's network.
To all of those that like to post root bounties... BUY A DEVELOPER EDITION. You'll pay $300 for a device and then offer $300+ for a root bounty... which is the cost of developer edition device... considering VZW offers Edge, you no longer have to pay full retail in one go for a DE. From this point forward, VZW customers need to comprehend the fact that rooting will continue to be increasingly difficult to perform, most especially on Moto phones running on VZW's network. If you want root access, buy the S5 developer edition or wait until the first week of december to see if a developer edition for the Note 4 will be released (if a Note 4 DE is going to be released, it will occur within the 4 - 6 weeks following it's RTM on 10/23 [Thursday]).
These phones aren't new anymore. What's the point of only letting Dev versions of the MAXX be unlocked. I find it rather annoying especially since the other phones on the list aren't Dev only. Anyone think sending enough demand will get us results and we can finally unlock our phones or is it pointless? And I recently found out the the Sunshine APK will not unlock Motorola phones on 4.4 even though they said version 3 would be our savior.
This has been brought up so many times for every locked phone. It's pointless its not moto of lenovo its Verizon that wants the phone locked. So yes its pointless.
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its not moto its verizon, thank them.
Motorola is just a contract manufacturer of the phones. The brand is owned by Verizon. It's their choice, not Lenovo's. It was remarkable that Verizon allowed a dev version at all.
(But, I agree that it would be great if the phone was allowed to be unlocked as soon as it was two years past active sales, just as a policy. Of course they're still selling this phone now so that helps nobody at the moment.)
Now we all know - if you want a phone that can be unlocked, don't ever, ever buy a Droid from now on.
I figured it was Verizon when we're still waiting for Lollipop. After enough complaining to Motorola the best I got was included into soak tests. But it was just to late for Lollipop.
Does anyone have any tips? I've tried Kingoroot with no luck.
Have to unlock bootloader first.
Which is not possible at this time with this Verizon phone.
Buy an X-Force
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Buy an X-Force
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Or if he needs Verizon, get a phone where XDA forum shows the Verizon bootloader can be unlocked. For instance Droid Turbo XT1254 -- as long as it's not on the very latest firmware version (and Sunshine team is even working on that).
Or other Sunshine cracked phones.
Or Moto Nexus 6.
Point is, with Verizon phones you really have to research first before you buy -- if rooting is important to you.