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Phone Idle under Settings/Battery

What runs under "Phone Idle" on the V20. It's been the largest battery consumer for the last week of use that I've noticed. My wife's V20 is the same and I had my brother check his and his wife's V20.
I'm only asking because I'm not see great battery life like other have been reporting. I don't have live wallpaper, have only two widgets on the home screen. GPS is set to battery save, screen is set to auto but that doesn't even come close to chewing up the battery.
Sadly I feel like I'm still using my old 2.5 year G3 where it'll need a charge mid way through the day.

VDoubleUVR6 said:
What runs under "Phone Idle" on the V20. It's been the largest battery consumer for the last week of use that I've noticed. My wife's V20 is the same and I had my brother check his and his wife's V20.
I'm only asking because I'm not see great battery life like other have been reporting. I don't have live wallpaper, have only two widgets on the home screen. GPS is set to battery save, screen is set to auto but that doesn't even come close to chewing up the battery.
Sadly I feel like I'm still using my old 2.5 year G3 where it'll need a charge mid way through the day.
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Factory reset it

czerdrill said:
Factory reset it
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Really??
Pretty sad that needs to be done on a week old phone with minimal apps. I'm not even a heavy user.
I feel like I'm back on my old DroidX days where everything was a factory reset but never helped...

VDoubleUVR6 said:
Really??
Pretty sad that needs to be done on a week old phone with minimal apps. I'm not even a heavy user.
I feel like I'm back on my old DroidX days where everything was a factory reset but never helped...
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I agree with you. Although my phone is just beyond a week old and does have all my apps installed, a factory reset can't be the solution here. This is the typical "I don't know how to fix this" answer always given by manufacturers and carriers.
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In the roughly 3 weeks I've had my V20 I've only seen this once where phone idle was higher than Screen. I started looking thru all running apps for 'keep awake' time being high and noticed Android OS had keep awake of over 2 hours when it's normally less than an hour after a full day use. I power cycled the phone and it stopped.
The weird thing was Android OS didn't show high battery usage even though something was triggering keep awake. Looks like the keep awake was causing phone idle to be high.
I'd look at everything in your battery usage to see if you have any high keep awake times.

VDoubleUVR6 said:
Really??
Pretty sad that needs to be done on a week old phone with minimal apps. I'm not even a heavy user.
I feel like I'm back on my old DroidX days where everything was a factory reset but never helped...
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Sorry did not mean to be short in my response. When you set up your phone did you restore it from another phone using the nfc bump thing? I did the same and my phone battery was the same way. Wouldn't last even half a day. After i factory reset and set everything up manually i get 18+ hrs with 7 hrs screen on time sometimes.
If this situation doesn't apply to you then maybe a reset won't help. But you have to understand your situation isn't normal.

Make sure Google now features are all turned off and not running in the background.

tourbound129 said:
In the roughly 3 weeks I've had my V20 I've only seen this once where phone idle was higher than Screen. I started looking thru all running apps for 'keep awake' time being high and noticed Android OS had keep awake of over 2 hours when it's normally less than an hour after a full day use. I power cycled the phone and it stopped.
The weird thing was Android OS didn't show high battery usage even though something was triggering keep awake. Looks like the keep awake was causing phone idle to be high.
I'd look at everything in your battery usage to see if you have any high keep awake times.
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I'll have to go through the apps one by one like I did previously on my G3 and see. Now within the battery stats there is only a handful of apps like hangout, play music, chrome and camera. The rest is OS related so that's why I was curious what ran under Phone Idle.
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Sorry did not mean to be short in my response. When you set up your phone did you restore it from another phone using the nfc bump thing? I did the same and my phone battery was the same way. Wouldn't last even half a day. After i factory reset and set everything up manually i get 18+ hrs with 7 hrs screen on time sometimes.
If this situation doesn't apply to you then maybe a reset won't help. But you have to understand your situation isn't normal.
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No and sadly I was looking for that feature a week ago but couldn't find it so I had to individually install most of my apps I had on my previous phone...made for a long night along with the additional emails and configuration or icons and such.
I'll keep digging away at the phone...I really want to like this phone ?

Has there been a definitive resolution to "phone idle" battery drain? I just got a V20 2 weeks ago on sale for $360 and its a fantastic upgrade over the One+1 I've been rockin all these years, but I'm also suffering from mediocre life due to whatever phone idle is. Some forums (for other phones) say phone idle is related to your wireless signal. I'm still with the same carrier and frequenting the same locations and had no such battery drain with that old One+.

i finally discovered whats was goin on with me..
i had the same issue..
phone idle was topping my battery usage list
it turns google plays have this "locationmanager service " and locationwhatever" that kills your battery over wifi even with location button off

Go to locations/ 3 dots in top right corner/ turn off WiFi scan. See if that helps.

My phone has been suffering from poor battery life for quite some time now, here are the screenshots, Android OS has been this high on almost all battery cycles.
I disabled wifi scanning as suggested above and will watch the performance, does the community have any other inputs to fix this? View attachment 4212978View attachment 4212979
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Phone idle is always the biggest battery draw on my phone too. I have minimal apps too. No Facebook or similar types of apps. I'm on a Verizon V20 stock with the latest security update. Is this normal V20 behavior to have phone idle consume more battery than everything else?

how about doze mode , isnt that meant to help with this sort of problem ? ( my phone is currently on a ship )

Any update. İ have the same problem

andreqf said:
i finally discovered whats was goin on with me..
i had the same issue..
phone idle was topping my battery usage list
it turns google plays have this "locationmanager service " and locationwhatever" that kills your battery over wifi even with location button off
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So what did you do?

Would also be grateful if anyone shared a solution.
I specifically have a SIM-unlocked Sprint model (LS997) which am using in Europe with another carrier.
Using it in LTE preferred mode drains about 10-15% overnight.
Using it in WCDMA preferred mode drains up to 5% per night (yes, wifi and cellular data OFF and many apps greenified) . So I'm really interested in how this can be fixed and achieve 0% battery drain across several hours.
Or maybe it's SIM-unlocked Sprint ROM related?? I can't root my phone since it has the Feb 2017 patch and is a ZV6.
I suspect rooting it and using another ROM would solve this + the annoying issue of not being able to send images via FB Messenger and Viber while on cellular data (I imagine the Sprint guys placed some kind of restriction to deny media transfer for these apps when using cellular data).

I have noticed this too.. wondered why "phone idle" takes most battery... any suggestions would be great!

I am also curious about the solution. Phone Idle is at top. Even without SIM card. 30% drains during a night (everything is disabled, but no airplane mode is on). I tried factory reset, reinstall older ROM, replace battery, use no app but still sucks.

hi
my v20 phone battery draining was about 1% per hour before (about 7% totally ) and recently increased to 2% during sleeping time overnight. (draining 15% overnight in sleeping state)
it seems that during day either performance off battery is decreased.(about 5h with wifi and screen on usage)
Fast charging while second screen is On , is slower than when it is off therefore when second screen is Off , fast charging goes better . exactly , first 30 mins fast charging makes about 40% battery charge(instead of 50%) and after 60 min leads to 85% and full charging taking place after about 100 min instead of 80 mins.
another important thing is that sometimes shades have been seen on the LCD that many users have complained about it.
phone information is :
Android security patch level: September 1, 2017
BASEBAND : MPSS.TH.2.0.1.c3-00045-M8996FAAAANAZM-1
KERNEL : 3.18.31
BUILD NUMBER : NRD90M
SOFTWARE VERSION : V10g-AME-XX
MODEL NUMBER : LG-H990ds
my actions are as follows :
phone is factory reseted. No third party apps is installed. [especially social media apps.]
battery calibration steps for not rooted phones is taken place.(turning off the phone and charging several times repeatedly).
testing battery drain in safe mode in done and didn't change results
turn off location services and location scanning for WiFi and Bluetooth scanning
turn off WiFi being On during screen is Off.
turn off auto sync, NFC, GPS etc.
not using auto brightness.
not using comfort view .
turn off location services and location scanning for WiFi and Bluetooth scanning
second screen is off during test overnight. (either with second screen is ON with faced down to lower brightness in other day test )
phone is in Air Plane Mode and all data services is off.
system apps like Google services and Play and Assistance is limited by permissions.
following are some advanced battery drain overnight figures of my phone for more analyzing.
any help with this issue is appreciated.

android system eating up my battery

This problem started a few days ago randomly. I never installed a new app or changed any settings. Started out while I was on a custom ROM. I tried another ROM and same thing. Tried fully erasing everything my phone and still no luck. Fully unrooted and went back to complete stock and Android system is still eating away. When I went back to stock I started the phone as new. Did not restore any apps. This is very frustrating cause it started out of nowhere and it doesn't want to go away no matter what I do. My phone is dying halfway through my day with Android system having double the % that my screen on time has

Thankzz.
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note3userr said:
This problem started a few days ago randomly. I never installed a new app or changed any settings. Started out while I was on a custom ROM. I tried another ROM and same thing. Tried fully erasing everything my phone and still no luck. Fully unrooted and went back to complete stock and Android system is still eating away. When I went back to stock I started the phone as new. Did not restore any apps. This is very frustrating cause it started out of nowhere and it doesn't want to go away no matter what I do. My phone is dying halfway through my day with Android system having double the % that my screen on time has
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Go into settings/accounts and see if anything is having a problem syncing. You should also turn off Bluetooth and set location to battery saving if you aren't using Bluetooth devices or GPS. Which build of Android are you using? Is the high battery drain when the phone is idle? In use? Both? Presumably you wiped the system cache after going back to stock?

jhs39 said:
Go into settings/accounts and see if anything is having a problem syncing. You should also turn off Bluetooth and set location to battery saving if you aren't using Bluetooth devices or GPS. Which build of Android are you using? Is the high battery drain when the phone is idle? In use? Both? Presumably you wiped the system cache after going back to stock?
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Accounts are all synced good. I have wifi and Bluetooth scanning off. Location is on battery saving. And I'm on latest vendor 7.1.1 and usually it's when I'm using the phone. Idle drains some too but not that much of a difference.

note3userr said:
Accounts are all synced good. I have wifi and Bluetooth scanning off. Location is on battery saving. And I'm on latest vendor 7.1.1 and usually it's when I'm using the phone. Idle drains some too but not that much of a difference.
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Did you wipe the system cache? The only obvious thing that might drain your phone when in use is having the screen brightness set very high, but that shouldn't make a huge difference. You said the problem began when you were on a custom ROM but now you are fully stock? That's odd. Poor network connection can also cause high battery drain. I think if you reset your network settings it will force your phone to look for the closest available cell tower. Do you have GSM or CDMA service?

note3userr said:
This problem started a few days ago randomly. I never installed a new app or changed any settings. Started out while I was on a custom ROM. I tried another ROM and same thing. Tried fully erasing everything my phone and still no luck. Fully unrooted and went back to complete stock and Android system is still eating away. When I went back to stock I started the phone as new. Did not restore any apps. This is very frustrating cause it started out of nowhere and it doesn't want to go away no matter what I do. My phone is dying halfway through my day with Android system having double the % that my screen on time has
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When battery is run down, what is displayed under battery>>android system>>use details? Please paste those details here. Are you in an area of extremely poor LTE signal? Have you ever used Better Battery Stats? Install it and run it for a full battery cycle. Your problem will likely be solved by a factory reset from the stock recovery.

jhs39 said:
Did you wipe the system cache? The only obvious thing that might drain your phone when in use is having the screen brightness set very high, but that shouldn't make a huge difference. You said the problem began when you were on a custom ROM but now you are fully stock? That's odd. Poor network connection can also cause high battery drain. I think if you reset your network settings it will force your phone to look for the closest available cell tower. Do you have GSM or CDMA service?
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Wouldn't high screen brightness go under the screen category and not Android system? I will reset my network settings and see if it makes a difference. I would assume flashing back to stop and erasing all data on the phone would do that and wipe all system cache as well.
v12xke said:
When battery is run down, what is displayed under battery>>android system>>use details? Please paste those details here. Are you in an area of extremely poor LTE signal? Have you ever used Better Battery Stats? Install it and run it for a full battery cycle. Your problem will likely be solved by a factory reset from the stock recovery.
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I have BBS installed but without root I don't think it's much help? I will post screenshots when my battery goes down to about 15%

Some people have reported that the following works, although I don't understand why it would. Go into settings/battery/battery optimization/all apps/reset app preferences.
A factory reset shouldn't be necessary if you did a completely clean stock install but it also couldn't hurt.

note3userr said:
I have BBS installed but without root I don't think it's much help? I will post screenshots when my battery goes down to about 15%
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Again, your problem will likely be solved by a factory reset from the stock recovery.
Weren't you running BBS when you were rooted and running multiple custom roms? Why not re-root now and use BBS or GSam?

v12xke said:
Again, your problem will likely be solved by a factory reset from the stock recovery.
Weren't you running BBS when you were rooted and running multiple custom roms? Why not re-root now and use BBS or GSam?
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I never use root even with custom Roms. I feel like I have no need for it. I did what was mentioned earlier and reset my network settings and also I disabled chrome and started using a different browser and so far Android system is the same percentage as screen. Not good but way better than before. BSS is also showing 2 hours "awake (screen off)" which is kinda alarming

note3userr said:
I never use root even with custom Roms. I feel like I have no need for it. I did what was mentioned earlier and reset my network settings and also I disabled chrome and started using a different browser and so far Android system is the same percentage as screen. Not good but way better than before. BSS is also showing 2 hours "awake (screen off)" which is kinda alarming
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You didn't see anything odd when you went into accounts and looked at syncing? For Google you clicked on the account and looked at each individual thing that gets synced under Google? If you were rooted you could try the Naptime app. I hated it but it has many fans. Basically it puts your phone in an extreme Doze state when you aren't using it, which might fix your problem. But if you want anything to work with the screen off you have to exempt it from Doze. Screen off in Naptime kills pretty much everything.

Same here. Everything stock. Just checked accounts settings and everything is good.
right now my top 5 is:
Screen 13% (2h:52min SOT)
Android System 10%
Android OS 9%
Facebook 8%
WhatsApp 5%
and in overall I've been around 40 min on Facebook, and you know that this **** consumes a lot, so go figure out how the hell is Android System and OS above it.

yzT said:
Same here. Everything stock. Just checked accounts settings and everything is good.
right now my top 5 is:
Screen 13% (2h:52min SOT)
Android System 10%
Android OS 9%
Facebook 8%
WhatsApp 5%
and in overall I've been around 40 min on Facebook, and you know that this **** consumes a lot, so go figure out how the hell is Android System and OS above it.
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They are components shared by applications so that's rather normal to have them high.
I don't care about Android architecture much so only look at my SOT (which is nominal).
Those interested in why system and OS are high, should read the battery stats source code to see what's grouped under these and how it's being calculated.

I locked my bootloader last night and did a factory reset from settings. Right now Android system is at 5% and screen at 4%
I'm about to completely just give up

note3userr said:
I locked my bootloader last night and did a factory reset from settings. Right now Android system is at 5% and screen at 4% I'm about to completely just give up
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Android System tally is the sum total of a number of components. That it is "high" is not necessarily a big deal. The real question is: what are each of those components using? When your battery is run down, what is displayed under battery>>android system>>use details? Those usage details may help you find a problem if you even have one. Short of rooting and running a dedicated battery usage/wakelock app, these details may be the best you will get.

Decided to run purenexus and exkernel with root to get better stats. Battery is a little better but still not even close to how it used to be. Here are screenshots of everything . Woke up with 100% around 5:30 am. Went to work and the gym and wat he'd some YouTube.

The only way I found to fix this issue was to implement aggressive doze as soon as screen is off.
If you're on MM this can be done using apps like ForceDoze
And on Nougat using NapTime
Furthermore , I also implemented ElementalX kernel with Hawktail governor.
Since these changes my Screen is on top of the list in battery and maximizes my screen on time. Nothing else works for me.
The phone tends to stay awake needlessly without all these tweaks.

=note3userr;70379330]Decided to run purenexus and exkernel with root to get better stats. Battery is a little better but still not even close to how it used to be. Here are screenshots of everything . Woke up with 100% around 5:30 am. Went to work and the gym and wat he'd some YouTube.[/QUOTE
I really don't see anything wrong here, except awake time and maybe SOT. 4 hours SOT is very good for stock and you are at what 3.3 hours? I use the Hawk Tail governor profile in EX as well and it gives me just a small amount of improvement over stock settings. I use the stock rom, rooted with EX and get 4-5 hours SOT.
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note3userr said:
Decided to run purenexus and exkernel with root to get better stats. Battery is a little better but still not even close to how it used to be. Here are screenshots of everything . Woke up with 100% around 5:30 am. Went to work and the gym and wat he'd some YouTube.
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I think the 2 hours awake screen off is normal unless you use an App like Naptime to put your phone in Doze as soon as the screen is off. If you are really concerned with idle battery life you might want to try Naptime, but you may need to play with the settings so the phone works like you want, Naptime by default turns off everything that isn't excluded from Doze when the screen goes off. That includes music players and the fingerprint sensor.

Android P Developer Preview 3

It's out now with both factory images and OTAs
https://developer.android.com/preview/download
https://developer.android.com/preview/download-ota
FlashKernel v2.43 + Magisk 16.4 working fine

Magisk is still working for me, still passing SafetyNet.

Not possible to sideload the OTA file via TWRP, correct?

w0rdie said:
Not possible to sideload the OTA file via TWRP, correct?
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Not sure. I installed it by unpacking the factory image and removing the -w from the flash-all script

I always forget about that.

got it yesterday through ota, till now it runs fine. No performance difference so far (no unlock timeout luckily, although the problem was with Oreo June update, you'll never know if it travels to P).
Think I found 2 differences so far. The first is pretty cool, on the AOD you see now the weather under the time, next to the date, the weather icon is in color, looks really nice! The battery indicator on the AOD looks the same, bit too small in my opinion, little doubt if the font size is +1... but i don't think so.
The second thing that i found is that when you search in the settings, the result isn't flashing anymore but just a solid color that indicates the option you where searchinig for.
Adaptive Battery is enabled automatic after update, i turned it off before, because it just used more battery in standby when i turned it on. In the first couple of hours, it looks like it now works when enabled. After a couple of days it should be clear if it makes the standby drain a little less.
Couple of dutch apps work now, those crashed before when launching them. NOS, Ziggo GO are working fine now. The ABN Wallet app (sort of google pay replacement) doesn't crash on launch, but i need a reader to enable this wallet, and that reader is at home, i'm at work now
I did not factory reset the phone because it is a small update.

I'm noticing terrible battery drain. For instance unplugged phone when fully charged at around 3:30am by 8:30am battery was at 56%. Before the update only 5-6% would be discharged during that time. Battery stats show no app usage and claims everything is fine so I have no idea of the cause.

nullness said:
I'm noticing terrible battery drain. For instance unplugged phone when fully charged at around 3:30am by 8:30am battery was at 56%. Before the update only 5-6% would be discharged during that time. Battery stats show no app usage and claims everything is fine so I have no idea of the cause.
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https://developer.android.com/preview/release-notes
Well what you're describing is mentioned in the release notes under Known Issues.

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https://developer.android.com/preview/release-notes
Well what you're describing is mentioned in the release notes under Known Issues.
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True, but it's good to let people know the extent of the problem, known or not. Personally I would not have updated if I knew the issue was this extreme. Point taken about it being a known issue though. :good:

nullness said:
True, but it's good to let people know the extent of the problem, known or not. Personally I would not have updated if I knew the issue was this extreme. Point taken about it being a known issue though. :good:
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Until now (half day use) I don't have much battery difference between dp2 and dp3. Try to turn adjustable battery management off. In dp2 my phone had less drain with the feature off. This half a day I have turned it on and testing if the drain better or worse. But the drain you're describing isn't normal. Have you tried to factory reset? With Google backup it isn't much of a hassle in my opinion.

nullness said:
True, but it's good to let people know the extent of the problem, known or not. Personally I would not have updated if I knew the issue was this extreme. Point taken about it being a known issue though. :good:
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I get what you're saying. Just didn't know if you knew about the known issue so I wanted to make you (and others) aware that there are known bug & where to find that documentation. We're all so excited to try the latest/greatest that we never look at what might be wrong.
Also my anecdotal battery usage has been decent since I flashed. Obviously today is my first full day of usage but so far it hasn't been too bad. I unplugged ~6:45am, made a 15min phone call, and it's been sitting on my desk getting minimal usage & I'm at 95% and it's currently 10am.

psychomaniac82 said:
Until now (half day use) I don't have much battery difference between dp2 and dp3. Try to turn adjustable battery management off. In dp2 my phone had less drain with the feature off. This half a day I have turned it on and testing if the drain better or worse. But the drain you're describing isn't normal. Have you tried to factory reset? With Google backup it isn't much of a hassle in my opinion.
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It's pretty weird. I installed it yesterday afternoon and noticed very little difference, it was just like suddenly overnight despite no app updates or notifications the battery just drained. I turned off the adjustable battery management a couple hours ago and I'm already seeing a difference. I'm going to hold off on the factory reset until I give it another day to see if that does the trick. Thanks for your help!

Hey guys, I keep on getting the "an error has occurred" message when attempting to do the OTA. I know I can probably just side load the factory image later on tonight but is anyone else having this issue? I have a custom kernel installed so maybe that is causing the problem? Although, that said; the custom kernel didn't bother it going from Oreo to DP2.

Just finished installing pp3, along with root and flash kernel 2.43 (latest).
Pin stop being accepted after a couple of reboots, and didn't work not TWRP as well.
Once rebooted again started working
Keyboard didn't work at first just typing this post.
Hope it has something to do with everything just settling down.

Today I too experienced a noticeably faster battery drain. As alluded to above (from release notes) it might be attributed to the new screen settings. I'll see how it does but I've turned off adaptive display and set my static brightness setting to 40%...in the past I used to use 30% and it was plenty bright but not under the new system. Has anyone come up with a recommended brightness on the new slider that is both clean/legible and battery friendly?

mikeynavy1 said:
Today I too experienced a noticeably faster battery drain. As alluded to above (from release notes) it might be attributed to the new screen settings. I'll see how it does but I've turned off adaptive display and set my static brightness setting to 40%...in the past I used to use 30% and it was plenty bright but not under the new system. Has anyone come up with a recommended brightness on the new slider that is both clean/legible and battery friendly?
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Try turning off Adaptive Battery in the battery settings, it got turned on by default in dp3. After I did that yesterday my battery drain stopped.

So, when I try to install magisk and patch my boot img via magisk manager, my installation keeps failing. It says it's unable to extract the magisk zip file. Anyone else having this problem?

nullness said:
Try turning off Adaptive Battery in the battery settings, it got turned on by default in dp3. After I did that yesterday my battery drain stopped.
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I just turned it off and will see if there is any difference. I suspect that it may take a little while for the adaptive battery feature to "learn" so that might be the issue. If so, I'm hoping that Google or a thorough reviewer will put out some guidance on how it works and how long a user would need to be patient before seeing any advantage to using it.

A day later and adaptive battery is still on and do not experience the drain you guys experience. With adaptive on the phone has a better battery life than with dp2 and oreo. I travel for work witch has a severe impact on the battery. Normally I have a screen on time of 1 to 1,5 hour after work when the phone reaches 50%. Today it was about 2 hours and 20 to 30 minutes (not checked out at 50%). But I think it's better then before. Hope it will stay this way. Hoping a little more the 'ROM' will settle more and adaptive battery getting better. Will try to report this weekend or next week.

The only annoying thing on this update I found, when you press menu to see your opened apps, it sometimes put it at the side with the "clear all" already displayed.
An occurence which occur randomly: I open whatsapp, I go out to home screen, I press menu to show the opened apps.
Whatsapp is not in the middle, instead it is on the right side, with "clear all" button on the left side, other times it works normally on the middle.
The problem that occurs afterwards is that if I try to clear the application by swiping up, it is stuck in the menu mode, so I have to scroll up to get my list of applications, then scroll down to revert to home screen.
As I mention again, it seems to be random occurence, and I don't know if it's a bug or it's a problem with sensitivity.

Trying to track down cause of recent battery drain issue.

Hello all,
So I know there's various discussions all over the web about the Galaxy s10 and battery issues on both Snapdragon and Exynos variants. It seems people are experiencing a wide margin of difference in avg battery life..
So here's my situation. My wife and I both have S10+'s through AT&T. We got them the first week they came out. I looked though the forums and performed several battery optimization tweaks on both phones and since then the battery life has been really impressive... No complaints really. Until this last week.
We both recieved the March security patch and fingerprint scanner fix about a week ago. My wife's phone seems unchanged by this. Everything working as expected. My phone however has been draining battery MUCH faster both in SOT and standby time. I'm losing 2-3x more battery % overnight. In the last 20 mins of just reading through threads on the XDA forum app, I've lost about 10% battery. I'm sitting in the dark with my screen brightness very low too. (down another 5% since I started typing this!)
My wife and I have very similar phone habits. Since both our phones are optimized identically, and we used most of the same apps a play the same games, I started looking through everything different I've done in my phone since this problem started. I installed Adhell3, which seems to be setup properly and working. Mike B. from Adhell's Discord assured me that Adhell shouldn't be draining my battery. I'm mostly using it just to remove a bunch of basic bloatware and block some ads.
The update seems to have worked fine otherwise. My FP scanner is much better now, but something is definitely wrong. I've tried wiping the partition cache afterwards. I've tracked down others experiencing issues after this particular update, but cant seem to find a way to fix this problem yet. I saw something about Deep Sleep problems after the update when someone uses a VOIP service like Skype or WhatsApp, but I dont use anything like that. I can't even find a good tool to use to see more information about my battery usage, as the built-in battery monitor lacks a good deal of information. CPUspy doesn't work on my version.
If anyone has any ideas of what could be the culprit, what else I could try, or what tools I could use to try and track down what exactly is causing this sudden increase in drain, I'd really appreciate it.

Which update do you have ASBA or ASCA? This is rather weird, Battery drain can also come from restoring from backups. I lose 2% every night and my phone is on airplane mode, not connected to anything except location. I do not have adhell, and last time I tested before the fingerprint update I had 10h SoT on wifi purely. When I got the new fingerprint update I checked if the phone went to deep sleep and it does, so I really do not know what might be your issue. I have an exynos variant btw. Also I charge my phone constantly from 80 I let it drop to 40 and charge it back, I do not use fast charging options. Since unplugging my phone now on LTE fully I have lost 1% in 30 min, I have my fitbit always connected, location on, max resolution, I have a semi black wallpaper and brightness around 40-50%.
I will see today how much SoT I can get from 80% part wifi, part LTE, I will update.

clear cache helped a lot of people

Update 1

Reset all phone settings to factory. Don't do full factory reset, just all the settings, fixed my post update battery drain issues
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Update 2

Hrrm. It seems I don't have ASBA or ASCA, I have ASD3. The March update.

I'm really hoping I don't end up having to factory reset and manually install everything... Because I did do a restore from backup with AT&T Transfer, because it seemed really convenient and time saving. I had no idea that so many people have had issues with restoring from various back up services (AT&T, Samsung, Google etc.)
I did the same restore from backup on my wife's S10+ too and she's had no problems. Her battery life is phenomenal. My battery issues only started after this last update.

SinisterDev said:
I'm really hoping I don't end up having to factory reset and manually install everything... Because I did do a restore from backup with AT&T Transfer, because it seemed really convenient and time saving. I had no idea that so many people have had issues with restoring from various back up services (AT&T, Samsung, Google etc.)
I did the same restore from backup on my wife's S10+ too and she's had no problems. Her battery life is phenomenal. My battery issues only started after this last update.
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Well that seems rather strange to be honest, you can eliminate possibilities by just testing and see what works. Last possibility can be that factory resetting and installing all new, but then again, it could be that it solves your issues or not. You should be having rather horizontal lines to prove your phone is truly going into deep sleep in my opinion, but also you can check with CPU Spy

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Try to log too safe mode and check the battery drain
If stopped then it was from an application that have a problem
If not I think it might be a system app or something

So. I'm starting to think that some of my problem has to do with wakelocks. Unfortunately I have limited access to wakelocks statistics since my phone is unrooted. However. Last night I fully charged my phone right before bed and then took it off the charger to see how much it would lose overnight. It dropped a whopping 10% vs the 1-2% it used to.
I looked through some of the battery info and noticed several apps running in the background for very long periods of time since last night. Chrome(2hrs) , Discord(2hrs), Google Play Services(a whopping 13hrs 30mins running in background) and Google Play store (5hrs)
Somehow Discord was responsible for draining 7.6% battery in that time!
So, could this be a wakelock issue causing my phone to lose so much battery overnight? I know that's only half the problem, because I'm also experiencing higher drain than usual while using certain apps too. But I'm trying to figure out one thing at time.

SinisterDev said:
So. I'm starting to think that some of my problem has to do with wakelocks. Unfortunately I have limited access to wakelocks statistics since my phone is unrooted. However. Last night I fully charged my phone right before bed and then took it off the charger to see how much it would lose overnight. It dropped a whopping 10% vs the 1-2% it used to.
I looked through some of the battery info and noticed several apps running in the background for very long periods of time since last night. Chrome(2hrs) , Discord(2hrs), Google Play Services(a whopping 13hrs 30mins running in background) and Google Play store (5hrs)
Somehow Discord was responsible for draining 7.6% battery in that time!
So, could this be a wakelock issue causing my phone to lose so much battery overnight? I know that's only half the problem, because I'm also experiencing higher drain than usual while using certain apps too. But I'm trying to figure out one thing at time.
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You can look at this thread and see if you can install the app without being root or not
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809

aromerodaniel said:
Which update do you have ASBA or ASCA? This is rather weird, Battery drain can also come from restoring from backups. I lose 2% every night and my phone is on airplane mode, not connected to anything except location. I do not have adhell, and last time I tested before the fingerprint update I had 10h SoT on wifi purely. When I got the new fingerprint update I checked if the phone went to deep sleep and it does, so I really do not know what might be your issue. I have an exynos variant btw. Also I charge my phone constantly from 80 I let it drop to 40 and charge it back, I do not use fast charging options. Since unplugging my phone now on LTE fully I have lost 1% in 30 min, I have my fitbit always connected, location on, max resolution, I have a semi black wallpaper and brightness around 40-50%.
I will see today how much SoT I can get from 80% part wifi, part LTE, I will update.
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10 sot？！？！？you sure about it?!?whatever I try I always only have 7 something sot,how can you make it 10?!?

paullu said:
10 sot？！？！？you sure about it?!?whatever I try I always only have 7 something sot,how can you make it 10?!?
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I have done it before, I can look for the image, if you would like. That was a full day of wifi actually.

paullu said:
10 sot？！？！？you sure about it?!?whatever I try I always only have 7 something sot,how can you make it 10?!?
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Here is the pic
Also you can look at this thread
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/how-to/official-exynos-battery-life-thread-t3917814/page7

You have it good compared with me I get background drain on all apps and I have all apps set not to run in the background

da1e8 said:
You have it good compared with me I get background drain on all apps and I have all apps set not to run in the background
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You just need to tweak your settings more, put which apps do not run on the background or go to sleep, how many days you need to wait to put unused apps to sleep. Is all tweaking the settings.

aromerodaniel said:
You just need to tweak your settings more, put which apps do not run on the background or go to sleep, how many days you need to wait to put unused apps to sleep. Is all tweaking the settings.
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I've put all apps to sleep and they still register as been used

da1e8 said:
I've put all apps to sleep and they still register as been used
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Then I don't what you can do, either do a factory reset and so not restore anything from backups and see if that works. I usually set my phone that way, clean no restoration from any backup all apps are installed manually, and I do not even use adhell to disable most of Samsung crap apps and services.

Battery Drain when off

Has anyone any ideas, if I turn my x727 off the battery will drain to zero in a few hours. If I just set to airplane mode battery is good for three or four days. Accubattery shows battery in low nineties for remaining capacity. Currently using AICP pie ROM but also did this on lineage and AEX ROMs. I don't even know what to check as phone is off. Any help appreciated.

nartex2 said:
Has anyone any ideas, if I turn my x727 off the battery will drain to zero in a few hours. If I just set to airplane mode battery is good for three or four days. Accubattery shows battery in low nineties for remaining capacity. Currently using AICP pie ROM but also did this on lineage and AEX ROMs. I don't even know what to check as phone is off. Any help appreciated.
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Only thing I can think of in order to discard some things are:
When did you notice this? after some modding? Have you flashed the recomended firmware for your device from the first post of AICP thread?
Then just for test:
While the device is off, connect the charger to see if the charging screen appears.
Then power on and once in AICP reboot to TWRP and from there just power off with TWRP menu, wait few hours, power on and see if there were battery drain while off.
Regards.

Thanks, it has done it for about one year, kind of thought about powering down from twrp. Have just been hitting airplane mode instead of powering down all this time. Firmware is correct. I thought something must be hanging. Appreciate the insight.

Just tried the shutdown from twrp. Battery went from 45 to 16 in one hour of shutdown. I am befuddled.

hello i have the same problem. i bought Lex722 as used one
i installed fresh Lineage OS.
when phone is off it drains in about 1-2 days down.
So i replaced the Battery with a new Battery. But... it get also down.. to i think its an hardware problem
one more thing: i charged from 0-90% . the Battery gets really hot. (Original charger). so maybe something with charging unit in the phone not ok

I have an X722 and I have a similar problem, after changing the display I have some problems like the one you mentioned, battery drain in stand by and my smartphone charging above 80% it shuts down and starts draining the battery, has anyone tried Qfil to try to solve this problem? or is it a hardware thing?
sorry if my English looks bad I'm using a translator

Daniel Doughlas said:
I have an X722 and I have a similar problem, after changing the display I have some problems like the one you mentioned, battery drain in stand by and my smartphone charging above 80% it shuts down and starts draining the battery, has anyone tried Qfil to try to solve this problem? or is it a hardware thing?
sorry if my English looks bad I'm using a translator
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I think I had something hanging and the phone not really shutting itself off completely. Did a wipe when doing an update and it fixed itself.

I have similar problem too, have X722, started somewhere in summer, spring where basically discharged by 10-20% daily when not using..
I always update to latest AICP. Just replaced battery today and still seems there is a small drain, charged to 100% for the first time, 2 minutes of usage and already down by 3%.

This may or may not help. You need to track down all the hogs. These were two that caused me endless issues. I tried disabling backup by switching it off and this and that... until going full rambo on Google.
Google Backup Transport and Backup Framework wuv to run amuck even with screen off.
I finally package block them and firewall blocked them. Clearing their data, as well as Goggle Play Services* and system/residual data caches if they act up.
Now it's stopped.
>1%@hr battery drain with AOD always on.
AT&T Note 10+ Pie
*enabled as needed for gmail, gmaps, playstore.

blackhawk said:
Google Backup Transport and Backup Framework wuv to run amuck even with screen off.
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Can I successfully disable them by just disabling their services in MyAndroidTools? (just checked and i already had them disabled)
I also have Magisk module - Universal GMS Doze.

rudolph323 said:
Can I successfully disable them by just disabling their services in MyAndroidTools?
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Yeah but portions* will still run in the background just like the malware it is.
Hence the firewall and the frequent data deletes.
Maybe 10 or 11 is better behaved but it doesn't seem that way from what I'm reading... they look worse than Pie. With unrooted phones they even block more user diagnostic tools than Pie, perfect. Pretty sure my 10+ will run on Pie for its whole service life because Google dropped the ball.
Fortunately Pie is a good OS... add to that AT&T and their partner Samsung are notorious for device killing near update end cycle firmware.
Not updating is simply an act of device self preservation.
*hopefully you can pull these weeds out better than I can on an unrooted device.
Each user/device is different though, good luck