I was thinking that I could just take the microsim from my ATT Note II, stick it in an LTE Note 8, and use it as a giant phone. Sure glad I read about this on XDA first. I do see that there is work on trying to make this happen, but there does not appear to be any success yet. Does anyone think that this will ever happen? Are there any 7" or greater tablets that can take an ATT microsim and be used as a phone?
Galaxy Note 8 International GT-N5100
Check it out Amazon. Works on T-Mobile and At&t, but no LTE.
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Even though we dont have an unlocked bootloader at the momentfor roms, theres unlocked sim and root. I needed the lte/ 4g because i wanted to download big files on the note and google maps im sure soon att will release the files, or someone awesome at xda to unlock it.
I believe that every tablet Samsung has ever made comes in a version capable of making phone calls. US carriers force Samsung to disable the feature, so if you want one, you'll have to buy an international version. There is also the Asus Fonepad, which is similar to the old Nexus 7.
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Even though we dont have an unlocked bootloader at the momentfor roms, theres unlocked sim and root. I needed the lte/ 4g because i wanted to download big files on the note and google maps im sure soon att will release the files, or someone awesome at xda to unlock it.
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I wish I could believe this, but every day that goes by makes me think that we may never see anything. I'm just hoping for an official 4.3 or 4.4 from AT&T.
I'm trying to decide if I'm going to own the AT&T galaxy s7 edge. This is just my observation, but it seems that there are fewer root options and less custom user development with each new model of the Samsung Galaxy S phones from AT&T. This seems to be more with with AT&T versions because they seem to be trying to do everything in their power to limit users from rooting their phones. This may go further than AT&T, but that's where my experience is limited to. I'd go with another carrier or buy an unlocked one, but I just can't justify the cost when my job pays for the phone and the bill. Worst case scenario is that I'll just stop rooting my phone rather than buy one somewhere else, but I love the flexibility and options it gives me. There are many custom functions I enjoy on my phone made possible by rooting it.
So my question to the community is this, and please share your thoughts even if you disagree:
Do you too also see a decline in the root options and custom development effort in AT&T Galaxy S phones over the years? Do you think this is going to change? And are there other phones you feel are better to own with comparable functionality to the Galaxy S series that receive much more custom user development support? Thank you all!
There is no question that development has fallen away on ATT phones - primarly because of the locked bootloader that ATT started back with the S4 - is has only gotten worse since then.
I am on ATT and I stopped buying ATT phones after the S4. The flexibility and options that are open to me using a TMobile phone on ATT are worth whatever additional cost to me so I just deal with it. I am fortunate, I have a good job and my wife doesn't bi..ch too much.
Custom Rom Developoment on the S6 and Note 5 for all carriers seemed to be less overall than I remember on the Note 4 and the S5 before that - maybe because Samsung pissed everyone off when they didn't include an External SD Card and they elminated the removal battery. The Exynos Processor probably played a big role too - I hope we see more on the S7 and S7 edge....
It's probably not a good idea if you want to use CM on ATT S7. And I would recommend you to get oneplus or nexus if you want to use CM or other custom ROMs.
Edited: I am also considering getting tmobile S7 for att use. Just don't know if that gonna work.
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I have had to stick with ATT since it is the only signal to penetrate the building I am in. My S4 was a T-Mobile model which was all unlocked with good amount of development. My s5 is w8 Canadian model also with pretty good development. I actually considered getting an ATT s7 but I'm sure I would soon be dissatisfied with stock only. Plus 30 months of $26 extra bill for device would be terrible. So I am going to wait and buy another international one when available for less than 6 or 7 hundred bucks.
I left ATT for one of these reasons, got so sick and tired of their Nazi BS crappy way of doing things the past couple of years. I used to LOL at Verizon for being the worst, well ATT has far surpassed them for the worst carrier in the U.S. ( Not talking network )
Back in the day, the ATT Note 2 was AWESOME, and tons of XDA development available for that phone, and then the Note 3 things started to change, and only got worse. The S4 was a disaster, at first it was rootable and had development, then ATT passed an update, and totally locked down that phone.
Plus their billing sucks, my monthly bill was never consistent, even though I was on a good plan. Every month my bill was a little higher, or way higher, but never exactly what it should be.
Fast forward to last Summer, My wife and I moved to T-Mobile at the launch of the Note 5, pick up the T-Mobile Note 5, and both are rooted running a great ROM. And T-Mobile's monthly bill, for seven months straight, been exactly the same, no funny business.
I'm with AT&T for the past two years. Two years ago AT&T kicked T-Mobile off all their cell towers in my area, and my signal became nonexistent. I ordered an S7 Edge through T-Mobile. Once the phone is unlocked, works fine on AT&T network. I won't buy another AT&T phone. I was lucky with my S5. I used the Towel Root exploit, and was lucky to have not updated.....
Thanks everyone! I really appreciate the feedback! Since work will buy the phone, I'm thinking about getting the AT&T S7 Edge, selling it, then getting a T-Mobile version with the money I sell it for maybe make a little or lose a little, but it shouldn't be a huge difference.
It is not only ATT Samsung phones that have seen a decrease in development - pretty much all phones have seen a decrease in development. Reason? Android is much better than it used to be! I had the S6 Edge+ (928G) unlocked and liked it, but eventually sold it. After a month or two I missed it and go a good deal on the ATT version. Man, the battery and signal strength are MUCH better than the 928G I had. There was bloat, but 99% of it can be disabled or uninstalled. I have gotten quite used to Samsung Pay and Android Pay and you can not use those with root.
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It is not only ATT Samsung phones that have seen a decrease in development - pretty much all phones have seen a decrease in development. Reason? Android is much better than it used to be! I had the S6 Edge+ (928G) unlocked and liked it, but eventually sold it. After a month or two I missed it and go a good deal on the ATT version. Man, the battery and signal strength are MUCH better than the 928G I had. There was bloat, but 99% of it can be disabled or uninstalled. I have gotten quite used to Samsung Pay and Android Pay and you can not use those with root.
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I simply cannot use a phone without AdAway, so I must root it. I hate ads/spam more than people hated Hitler.
I haven't felt a desire to unlock and root my phone. I have a Moto X Pure. I did have a Note 4 ATT variant and if it just came with Samsung bloat, I would have been fine but it's that ****ty at&t bloat that made me frustrated.
We went from a Note 3 to a Note Edge... Note 3 wasn't too bad and I did have it rooted with towelroot I think.
Note Edge didn't gain enough popularirty and nobody really cared to do anything with it anyways. We skipped the Note 5 and now going with a S7 Edge. I realized I didn't need to root or load a custom ROM on my Edge and I've been fine... Might stay that way with the S7 Edge we'll see...
that being said, I have a Gear S and that is locked down with ATT too.
Thought about going to T-Mobile, but our service is real good with AT&T so we didn't wanna change... I wouldn't mind trying T-Mobile though.
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We went from a Note 3 to a Note Edge... Note 3 wasn't too bad and I did have it rooted with towelroot I think.
Note Edge didn't gain enough popularirty and nobody really cared to do anything with it anyways. We skipped the Note 5 and now going with a S7 Edge. I realized I didn't need to root or load a custom ROM on my Edge and I've been fine... Might stay that way with the S7 Edge we'll see...
that being said, I have a Gear S and that is locked down with ATT too.
Thought about going to T-Mobile, but our service is real good with AT&T so we didn't wanna change... I wouldn't mind trying T-Mobile though.
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I was thinking about switching to tmobile but I was wondering if there is any way to test for tmobile signal in my building?
Ublock Origin works wonders
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I simply cannot use a phone without AdAway, so I must root it. I hate ads/spam more than people hated Hitler.
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Ublock Origin > Firefox Mobile
Just adding (maybe not for you) but there are options out there for people that want Android/Samsung Pay and won't have root.
My honest openion, avoid AT&T, get a unlocked varient, You will thank me later.
I wish unlocked variations of phones worked on Verizon because that's what i would do. Verizon has the same issue with development going down the hill and also all the bloat ware, late updates...
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How is development for Verizon galaxy devices?
Does the T-Mobile variant have the same bands as at&t? Can I get the free Samsung gear vr? Can't seem to find the answers to these anywhere.
I also agree that development across all devices has went down allot.
The way I look at it, from Samsung stand point, if u want features like Gear VR and Samsung Pay, it's best not to root anyway since most of the root breaks those features.
Without those features you might as well get a non feature packed Android such as a Nexus.
Now days before making a device purchase, it's pretty obvious which device has the better dev community. If u go dev route and get a Nexus you loose luxury features such as Samsung Pay Gear VR etc....
Android is so powerful now days, the need for root and custom Roms just ain't needed anymore.
The G1 and HTC Evo and Samsung Vibrant (old school devices) days are a different story.
Just a warning for anybody who wants to use a non AT&T phone on their network. They will not allow it to use VoLTE at all.
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I was thinking about switching to tmobile but I was wondering if there is any way to test for tmobile signal in my building?
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You'll be sorry if you switch.... I left T-Mobile two years ago because of signal problems in the financial capital of the world. NYC... and they are still having the same problems two years later since AT&T kicked them off their cell towers.....
http://callingouttmobile.com/
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Does the T-Mobile variant have the same bands as at&t? Can I get the free Samsung gear vr? Can't seem to find the answers to these anywhere.
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I was with T-Mobile for 15 years up until two years ago when I switched to AT&T.... I had mad signal problems in my house.... I've had no problem since I moved. I order only T-Mobile phones because they are easier to root, and I unlock them.... and use them on AT&T....
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Does the T-Mobile variant have the same bands as at&t? Can I get the free Samsung gear vr? Can't seem to find the answers to these anywhere.
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I was with T-Mobile for 15 years up until two years ago when I switched to AT&T.... I had mad signal problems in my house.... I've had no problem since I moved. I order only T-Mobile phones because they are easier to root, and I unlock them.... and use them on AT&T....
From what I've always understood it shouldn't matter what sim you have in for updates. I have an at&t purchases note 7 with a cricket sim and I can't for the life of me get the new battery icon update. I just bought the phone from best buy Friday and it's got the black square on the box and I checked imei on Sammys sight and this phone is the good battery version. Not too concerned other than if like to be able to receive updates in the future without having to always look around online and manually flash the files. I guess I could use kies?
Edit: Samsung kies3 shows note 7 is not a supported device. So I'm really not sure how to update this phone now without Odin firmware package
Download Samsung smart switch for PC and shows software up to date APH1
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From what I've always understood it shouldn't matter what sim you have in for updates. I have an at&t purchases note 7 with a cricket sim
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well, you always understood is WRONG !
you need a ACTIVE (working) att sim for the update. i also on cricket, i cant get update on any att phones.
i'm thinking of switching to GoPhone, but you have to pay taxes. so it' not worth it.
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From what I've always understood it shouldn't matter what sim you have in for updates. I have an at&t purchases note 7 with a cricket sim and I can't for the life of me get the new battery icon update. I just bought the phone from best buy Friday and it's got the black square on the box and I checked imei on Sammys sight and this phone is the good battery version. Not too concerned other than if like to be able to receive updates in the future without having to always look around online and manually flash the files. I guess I could use kies?
Edit: Samsung kies3 shows note 7 is not a supported device. So I'm really not sure how to update this phone now without Odin firmware package
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You need an activated and working ATT sim in the phone in order to get the OTA updates. If you had a cricket version phone, then youd need an active and working cricket SIM. Same thing goes for Tmobile, Sprint, Verizon, etc.
Kies no longer supports Note 7. You need the Smart Switch PC program. Kies even tells you this immediately after telling you that your phone isn't supported.
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Mine is a little different. I'm on AT&T and my phone hasn't updated. I've checked to see if there is one available and the phone says I'm up to date.
I use my Note 3 as a wifi only device around the house. It has been terrifically useful for years. I never got the last Verizon OS update because by then I had moved along to the Note 7 then landed on LGV20.
I still like using my v20 but some apps will no longer update (Fandango and others) because my os is too old. Android 5.0 is what I have now. N900VVRSEPL1 is my latest update.
Is there a way for me to install the most recent vzw os update without turning on the mobile data? Since this phone uses a different sized simm I can't just pop in the one from my v20 and even if I did turn on data I don't know if vzw is still pushing that update from years ago.
Is there still a way to root my phone to get Nougat update?
Suggest you go to the Verizon forum for Note 3 .