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Elephone P9000 (Real Reviews & Discussion) 5.5" FHD, Helio P10, Android 6.0, NFC, CNC

Elephone P9000 (Real Reviews & Discussion) 5.5" FHD, Helio P10, Android 6.0, NFC, CNC
Full In-Depth Review
Real unboxing & first hands on
In this video I introduce & review the Elephone P9000. After that I put it through various tests and show you some results. I also remove the backcover, so you can have a look inside and what the battery info actually shows.
In the end of the video I list all the pros & cons, so if you just want to know if this device is for you or not, just jump to the conclusion in the end of the video!
Camera samples: (be the judge yourself) (Clearly needs some optimization!)
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/omk7fya8d3t79/Elephone_P9000_Camera_Samples
UPDATE: Camera has been improved, check here now: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65685299&postcount=26
Changelog for the 0302 OTA Update: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65674830&postcount=23
Geekbench 3 battery test (with dimmed screen/minimum settings)
https://browser.primatelabs.com/battery3/213325
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http://peecee.dk/uploads/022016/20160214_213214.jpg
Highlights
- 5.5 Inch LG OGS Narrow Bezel, 1920*1080 pixels FHD
- Helio P10 MTK6755 2.0GHz Octa Core, GPU: ARM Mali-T860
- 4GB RAM + 32GB ROM, TF-Card up to 256GB
- Fingerprint Touch- ID, Off Screen Wakeup & App Lock
- 3000mAh battery, supports wireless charging & fastcharge
- 13 MP f2.0 Sony IMX258 main camera + 8 MP OV8858 front
- Laser Auto Focus & dual tone LED flash
- CNC made alloy frame
- NFC, USB Typ -C, 2.4G / 5G WIFI, OTG , BT 4.0
- Gyroscope, G-Sensor, P-Sensor, L-Sensor, Hall, E-compass etc.
- Smart Key / Offscreen gestures
- Android 6.0 system Marshmallow
- Supports 2G & 3G & 4G LTE network
- Network: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz, WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100MHz, FDD-LTE B1/B3/B7/B8/B20
You are prompted by this when you insert a microSD card:
exFAT doesn't seem to be found. I already tried that. But a 128GB card in FAT32 worked.
More real Elephone P9000 videos here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpADt1bvDL8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD3aufMrh_Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q6bvKS7tLo
Check here if it works with your network/carrier:
http://www.willmyphonework.net

I want to share some personal experiences that I so far had with the battery/batterylife on this device.
Standard charger test & battery capacity mAh (with cable):
I today did a measurement with an USB tool. I ran the battery dead so it turned off by itself.
Then I plugged in a standard charger (5V, 1A) and let it charge from 0-100% - I wanted to do this first test just with a normal charger. And the charging was done while the phone was turned off.
- At time 17:24 I started the charging and the battery was on 0%
- At time 19:10 (106 minutes later) it showed 100% charged the USB tool show then 2770mah
But I noticed that the charging didn't really stop, it kept charging even when showing 100%.
So I let it charge on to see when it would stop completely....
- At time 19:35 (131 minutes later) it still showed 100% charged, but the USB tool showed then 2949mah and it was stopped!!!
Fast charger test (with cable & Elephones big fast charger).
It charges 45% in only 38 minutes!
It charges 76% in only 62 minutes!
It charges 90% in only 73 minutes!
It charges 100% in only 87 minutes!
That is really quick.
Geekbench 3 battery test results: (run with dimmed display)
http://browser.primatelabs.com/battery3/213325
With the wireless charger pad, it charges rather slow.
30% in 60 minutes
So expect about 200 minutes (3 hours and 20 minutes) for a full charge.
Info:
The battery seems to be very close to the promised 3000mAh. But the battery indicator/percentage (at least for me) didn't seem to be fully correct, or I need to calibrate it some more. Maybe more charge cycles would also help, as I so far only charged it few times.
Regarding normal daily use, I was able to get through about 1 day (23 hours and 10 minutes), but not much more. I observed the battery usage with GSam Battery Monitor and it seems that the phone was held awake 14 hours, I'm not sure what that means, but maybe it is because of wakelocks? that said, I also had email push activated, so it may have checked randomly for new mails also. Besides that I of course also had things like GPS, Dual SIM, WiFi and the Fingerprint scanner activated....

What's your overall impression of the phone? Is there any noticeable lag? Does it feel high quality in the hand?
And the display looks quite nice- is it nice in person?

antigravity said:
What's your overall impression of the phone? Is there any noticeable lag? Does it feel high quality in the hand?
And the display looks quite nice- is it nice in person?
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My overall impression of the phone is really good. No noticeable lag, seems very smooth. And yes it feels very high quality in the hand, very close to a OnePlus 2 I would say. The display looks exactly like in my video also in person. In terms of design and display quality this is maybe the best phone from Elephone so far. I can't remember to have had an Elephone with the same high hardware quality, even the GPS is super good. My only real remark is the batterylife, which could be better.

Thanks for the feedback Styler it really does look like a quality handset.
If you go by the feature list, the only other handset on the market that ticks as many boxes as the P9000 is the Note 5.
That's taking into consideration wireless charging, 4GB RAM, NFC etc. Even then, the P9000 has Laser Focus and Micro USB Type-C which is incredibly handy. Can't wait to get my hands on one.

Hello people
Mine just arrived today. So far it looks like a good device but time (and XDA support) will tell. Here are a couple of observations and early bugs. I hope someone sees this (from Elephone) and fixes it in the next software release.
OBSERVATIONS:
- you can enable navigation bar (stock android soft buttons)
- only installing SuperSU doesn't work
- OS build date is 26.1.2016.
BUGS:
- When you insert a non english SIM card (mine is Croatian) the phone automatically changes the system language to the language of the SIM card. It does this on every restart and no matter which language was previously selected. It does it on both SIM1 and SIM2 slots.
- When restarting the phone the mobile data doesn't work any more. I have to switch it to 3G and then back to 4G and it works then.
- When I enable the navigation buttons (stock soft buttons) the hardware button continues to work (should be switched off). Also, the swipe home button up to open Google Now doesn't work. Don't know if this is a MM feature.
- Volume down buttons has some issues. Volume up works without a problem but volume down doesn't always respond, have to press it harder for it to work.
I hope we'll get a XDA forum section for the P9000 soon. Also, if you have something you would like me to check out on the phone let me know.

@apolloFER I think your problem with the volume button is hardware related, because it works fine always on mine.

@s7yler Yup, I'm pretty sure it is hardware related. But just wanted to mention that there's a chance for that to happen with this device.
There's a bug report form on elephone forum (and an email to do that) so I reported them.
The auto language change will be driving me nuts! I can already tell.

Onwards toward rooting the phone.
adb shell has su access (at /system/xbin/su) and I can remount the system as rw and copy whatever I want to /system/bin. Which should allow me to copy the latest su to that place. Will see if it works.

apolloFER said:
@s7yler Yup, I'm pretty sure it is hardware related. But just wanted to mention that there's a chance for that to happen with this device.
There's a bug report form on elephone forum (and an email to do that) so I reported them.
The auto language change will be driving me nuts! I can already tell.
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The thing with the "auto language change" I have also seen on some other china phones, it also happens for me on the Leagoo Elite 1. And yeah it's pretty annoying as my SIM card is German, but I rather want the phone to be in English
btw. post #1 is also now updated with my full video REVIEW, battery test & camera samples for people who don't know the device yet.....

apolloFER said:
Also, the swipe home button up to open Google Now doesn't work. Don't know if this is a MM feature.
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You just have to press and hold the home button to start Google Now... not swipe up... Recent apps will instead be shown when you press the square button. (not holding the circle button then).

This phone looks extremely good. Looking forward to it!

I´m worried about the camera on this one. The sample pictures you posted @s7yler seems to lack in focus. I can´t see the focus in the pictures. No sharpness at all.
I just hope it´s better than my Oneplus One that is just rebooting all the time. And that Gearbest will ship it soon...
Good review BTW @s7yler
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And what Bluetooth version can it handle? 4.1?

marcuspredsident said:
I´m worried about the camera on this one. The sample pictures you posted @s7yler seems to lack in focus. I can´t see the focus in the pictures. No sharpness at all.
I just hope it´s better than my Oneplus One that is just rebooting all the time. And that Gearbest will ship it soon...
Good review BTW @s7yler
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And what Bluetooth version can it handle? 4.1?
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Yep, the camera really needs some optimization! pictures indeed lack sharpness and focus!

s7yler said:
Yep, the camera really needs some optimization! pictures indeed lack sharpness and focus!
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Gizchina said that the camera's poor quality is related to hardware problem (due to cheap lens). What do you think? I pre ordered P9000 mostly because it's camera promise.

semphal said:
Gizchina said that the camera's poor quality is related to hardware problem (due to cheap lens). What do you think? I pre ordered P9000 mostly because it's camera promise.
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How would Gizchina know if it is hardware or software related? it is impossible to know. Could be software but could also be the sensor, I'm not sure what the reason is.

any fix for wakelock though?

Hi s7yler,
Nice post,
I'm not a pro with Android phones but I had bad experiences with Elephone (bad software, no system update, no after sale service and bad support in the company's forum) in afew words : ''Elephone promises a lot of things but forget it afer sale''...
Maybe The P 9000 will give me hope in this company.
( I saw good price for the Asus Zenphone 2 and XDA have a good support)
What is the score with Antutu 6 Benchmark?
Thank's
icare2

Do it support qc 2 charge ? Some chinese phone support qc and mtk fast charge too.
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apolloFER said:
Onwards toward rooting the phone.
adb shell has su access (at /system/xbin/su) and I can remount the system as rw and copy whatever I want to /system/bin. Which should allow me to copy the latest su to that place. Will see if it works.
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Hello,
I have received the device as well and would love to know if you have figured out a way to root the p9000. That, and Xposed, should help make this device my daily driver.
I am kind of disappointed with the camera. I am yet to see the laser autofocus to work properly. Focusing still takes like 2 secs every time, which is slightly annoying for someone used to quick focus.

OUKITEL A58 - Information & Reviews - 1.61" IPS | MT2502C | Metal

OUKITEL A58
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Reviews:
by @Alberto96 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=67900010&postcount=2
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Review
README: Being my first Smart Watch review, you might not expect a great review but...you only can say it
Introduction
This is the second SmartWatch released by OUKITEL, the A58. It is an huge upgrade compared to the previous A28, with a sharp IPS screen, excellent speaker quality and innovative UI.
It is powered by the common MT2502C CPU by Mediatek, this is the 2nd gen. of SmartWatch CPU that provides better performance and so on
Unboxing
The package contains basic accessories: 1x Charging Dock, 1x Micro-USB Cable, 1x Manual and the SmartWatch (of course)
Its charging dock feels pretty solid, but it isn't so friendly with the Metal Chassis, infact you will notice that i scratched the device near the power button. I recommend to add something soft that doesn't allow the chassis to be in direct contact with the plastic.
Design & Features
Unlike some other smartwatches, this comes with a Metal Chassis supported by a Plastic Back Cover. Also, it comes with a real-leather wrist, that in my case is Black, with Golden Chassis. I know, the color might not be appreciated by some users, but there is also a Silver version that looks pretty good, especially if you replace the leather wrist with a metal wrist.
On the right side there is the Power/Action Button, while on the back side there are the Charging Dock Pins and the Heartrate Sensor.
Its 1.61" IPS screen is just great, do not trust my photos because they look weird, but in real-life i can guarantee you that it is excellent. High-Brightness, Sharp and with Vivid Colors, probably the best small screen i have ever seen. Also, OUKITEL declares to use Sapphire Glass (you'll find a pre-installed plastic protector that i have removed), and it might be true (i can't be sure though) because i'm not able to see any scratch on the screen even after many days of usage. Well Done OUKITEL!
This doesn't mean that it is perfect, its high-brightness isn't battery-friendly. I can't reach more than 1 day and a half with a full charge. I don't know if this is normal or not, but others might prefer a larger battery. I plug my smartwatch every time i have access to the charging dock, basically every time i get back home, so this isn't a problem for me.
As regards the UI, there are many useful features such as Stopwatch, Pedometer, Calendar and many others. Just see my photos below to see all available features.
Even if there is a Pedometer & Sleep Monitor, they have to be activated in order to be used, it means that those features do not work as on Smart Bands where everything is automatically managed. I think this has been made to save battery, so yeah this is a nice idea, but for those for think to replace their Smart Bands it might be an issue.
There are some Clock UIs available that you can choose. Here you can see two of them, Analog & Digital. I'm using the Digital Clock because it is easier to read, and modern.
Notifications are handled through the Android's (or iOS depending on your device) app, and they work almost perfect, except Whatsapp Notification when you have multiple messages, because they get merged without having a list to access. Skype, Telegram and others work perfect though.
The Messaging app doesn't have any issue, you can read all the Device's messages and reply using quick-replies just like "I'll reply you later" or a simple smile "". You can't reply with your own messages, but it is still better than nothing.
As regards the Phone management, it works unexpectedly great. The Dialer is easy-to-use, and the Contacts app is smooth and manages to get also different numbers from the single contact (e.g. a contact with two numbers, mobile and work).
Also the Audio Quality while in-call is good, the Loudspeaker is so loud that the whole SmartBand almost vibrates just like a Subwoofer when there are low frequencies. Voice gets a bit distorted on maximum volume, but with medium volume it is just fine.
When it comes to Audio Quality using BT Music, then you can find the best quality even at maximum volume. Sincerely i'm impressed, it sounds even better than some Smartphone's Speaker. It can be used as a Mini Bluetooth Speaker, but only if you don't mind about battery life hehe.
The Heartbeat Sensor seems to work fine, i don't have another one that i can use to make a comparision, but it seems to be accurate enough and also pretty fast. It just needs 5-10 seconds to get calibrated.
Android App
This is where all Mediatek Smartwatches lose their quality. The Official App linked by OUKITEL in the A58's Manual is the "Fundo Wear" app but....on Android 6 it doesn't work. So i had to use the "Fundo SmartDevice" app that basically is the same app, provided by the same app publisher, but with less features. (no pedometer sync, no sleep monitor sync)
It has almost everything that you need to manage the SmartWatch though. Notifications can be choosen just by triggering the requested apps.
There is the Alert feature that allows you to set the maximum distance between the Device and the SmartWatch so that you won't lose it easily. Basically, it records the Bluetooth Signal Level, and based on this data it alerts you as soon it gets lower. That's a nice feature, but highly dependent on your Device's BT Antenna.
It is also required to Sync Contacts to the SmartWatch and everything else. The only features that you won't be able to manage are: Pedometer, Sleep Monitor and Heartrate. If you have an Android 5.1 device, then you can install the other app and manage also these features.
Conclusion
This device has an huge potential inside, and it is probably one of the best available SmartWatch without Android Wear, but OUKITEL should develop an ad-hoc Android App that would make it even better than how is it now without compatibility issues between different Android versions.
I can't find anything else negative, considering its low-price and high-quality materials, i can say that this is the best-buy unless you don't like its design. Recommended!
Pros:
High-Fidelity & Bright Screen
Great Sound Quality
Full of Sensors (Gesture, Heartrate...)
Sapphire Glass
Cheap
Cons:
Mediocre Battery Life
Low-Quality Android App
Available only with Leather Wrist
Rating: 8.5
Packaging and Accessories: 8
Design and Materials: 9
Performance & Usage: 8
Screen: 9
Sound: 9.5
Battery Life: 7
Price: 9
You can find full-res images (I know, Quality isn't excellent) here: http://imgur.com/a/0F0qk
Official Website: http://www.oukitel.com/products/a/a58-50.html
You can buy it on many online shops.​

Great review, for me being able to reply to notification through voice dictation is a must have.... I'm surprised that any watch realised in 2016 can't do it.
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gingerdude said:
Great review, for me being able to reply to notification through voice dictation is a must have.... I'm surprised that any watch realised in 2016 can't do it.
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There is Siri feature, that works with Google Now (Android) and Siri (Apple), so...this is a nice workaround to real voice dictation

Alberto96 said:
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Hi. Do you still use this watch? What is your opinion now, after long time usage?
Do you find solution for Android 6?
What about battery life?

Lovetz said:
Hi. Do you still use this watch? What is your opinion now, after long time usage?
Do you find solution for Android 6?
What about battery life?
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I was using it till last week, and it still works fine.
On Android 6 you can only use the "Fundo SmartDevice" app.
Battery Life is still the same unfortunately, more than 1 day and a half doesn't last.

Alberto96 said:
On Android 6 you can only use the "Fundo SmartDevice app".
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Is it the same as Mediatek SmartDevice app?

Lovetz said:
Is it the same as Mediatek SmartDevice app?
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Yeah based on that app.

Error charging
After one week of usage it stoped charging. It says " error charging".

Fernando Franco said:
After one week of usage it stoped charging. It says " error charging".
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Retry many times, i recommend you to restore the device to factory settings because it is a firmware bug.

Alberto96 said:
I was using it till last week, and it still works fine.
On Android 6 you can only use the "Fundo SmartDevice" app.
Battery Life is still the same unfortunately, more than 1 day and a half doesn't last.
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Hi. I receive my watch today and try Fundo Wear from Google Play in my Xiaomi Redmi 3s with MIUI8 based in Android 6.0.1. And Fundo Wear works fine.

Oukitel a58
Alberto96 said:
I was using it till last week, and it still works fine.
On Android 6 you can only use the "Fundo SmartDevice" app.
Battery Life is still the same unfortunately, more than 1 day and a half doesn't last.
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Hi
Do you still have this smartwatch?
I bought one this xmas to offer my wife, but it doesn't look good... That battery just lasts 2/3 hours...
How do you charge it? on the computer? i've been using my smartphone charger of 5V and 1A... Have i ****ed the battery off?

RSGI said:
Hi
Do you still have this smartwatch?
I bought one this xmas to offer my wife, but it doesn't look good... That battery just lasts 2/3 hours...
How do you charge it? on the computer? i've been using my smartphone charger of 5V and 1A... Have i ****ed the battery off?
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Sure, i still have it. 2/3 hours is just impossible, are you sure that yours isn't faulty?
Any USB charger can charge it, even a 5V/3A is just fine, the Smartwatch will just use the correct current from the charger (that should be pretty low, less than 0.5A)

how long does your battety lasts if you keep the step counter ative/enabled all the time?

RSGI said:
how long does your battety lasts if you keep the step counter ative/enabled all the time?
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I don't keep it on, this isn't a sport watch, it isn't optimized for this usage.

How do i STOP calls coming through my watch? I disable Call Service & Phone from the all notification & system app. And tried different FunDo app's, nothing works!!

cagedtony said:
How do i STOP calls coming through my watch? I disable Call Service & Phone from the all notification & system app. And tried different FunDo app's, nothing works!!
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From your device, go to Bluetooth Settings, press on the "Gear" icon near the name of the watch, and uncheck the relevant option (Phone audio).

Ticwatch S&E - what is your opinion & More information

Hi guys,
The Ticwatch S&E powered by Android Wear 2.0 will be releasing soon.
What do you guys think of these new watches?
Link to the Kickstarter page: http://kck.st/2h2OqGj
Personally I have good faith in the watch because it is produced by a company that has been founded by ex-Googlers and has been supported by Google.
Pro's:
- OLED Display.
- Cheap.
- With the E model you can swap the watch band.
Cons:
- No NFC.
- Plastic instead of metal..
- With the S model you can't swap the watch band
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I bought the TicWatch2 and the support have terrible, so I don't trust the company.

Harboe said:
I bought the TicWatch2 and the support have terrible, so I don't trust the company.
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That's a shame I hope they'll do a better job with this watch

S&E model will use Android wear 2.0 instead of ticwear OS.
For Android user is better than iOS user.

Hi there, i will not buy this watch, because of having the ticwatch 2 onyx black since 1 year. It is running without problems and I use it every day. Iam happy with it. The only advantage of the new one is Andoidwear2, but not more. I hope they will port it on my ticwatch 2 Have a nice day...

Mtk is a killer for many. It is a deal breaker.

Kinda sad how no one is able to top the original Huawei Watch. It came out in September 2015!

I've first backed for the TicWatch S on Kickstarter but witthdrawn my pledge as IP67 is really not enough for me, I was really excited about the TiWact S when first heard of it, but the lack of a proper Water Proofing (not water resist) made go for the Nixon MIssion, of course it's a far more expensive watch but it also is tougher.

thklinge said:
Kinda sad how no one is able to top the original Huawei Watch. It came out in September 2015!
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i think the lg u2 tops all. and its also from 2015 (ok last rev. 2016)

I just received the Ticwatch E, I backed it on Kickstarter. Honestly, I just wanted to be able to change watch faces whenever I felt like it and it was only $99.00. If you have questions I'll try to answer them.

I just got mine and I love it a ton. It's exactly what I want, which is notifications on my wrist, and Google Assistant in my wrist. I'm already missing a lot less notifications. It's also charging quite fast! Two hours for a full charge at most.

I got mine delivered yesterday (S Model). So far I like it! I have a Moto 360 Gen2 so it's not a huge upgrade but it's more responsive and yes it seems to charge really fast.

wyrmbyte said:
I just received the Ticwatch E, I backed it on Kickstarter. Honestly, I just wanted to be able to change watch faces whenever I felt like it and it was only $99.00. If you have questions I'll try to answer them.
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Just got mine a few days ago - I will say this - it's worth the $

Hi I have also just received them and I found them to perfectly fit my needs.
I have one question however hoping to find positive answer. As you might know, there is NFC chip on the watch as well, however is disabled thanks to some Android Wear security rules. Do you think there will be a way how to enable the NFC chip?
Having working NFC on the watch would be really nice bonus.

Ticwatch S impressions
I got my Ticwatch S on Thursday last week and I am mostly disappointed with the watch. My main complaints are:
1. The wakeup gesture doesn't work reliably. Most of the time it doesn't detect my wrist gesture and stays dark. Sometimes it needs around a second to detect it and to lit up.
2. The battery life is horrible. It hardly lasts more than a day, sometimes even less.
3. The OK Google command is not working very well. You need either to talk very close to the microphone or try couple of times to make it working. In general I think this is a problem of the microphone, because it doesn't work reliably in other applications as well
4. The watch is not very legible exposed to direct sunlight and it lacks automatic brightness which makes it extra bright during the night and not very bright during the day.
5. There is a rainbow effect around the screen edges, which is a bit annoying
6. I think also that the watch is a bit bulky and a bit on the heavy side, also the strap is made of rubber so your wrist sweats a lot during exercises.
And last but not least the Ticwatch forum is complete garbage. I tried to post two threads regarding my initial impressions and a question about how to switch from Fahrenheit to Celsius in the forum and they never showed up there, which means that the admins didn't approve them! So my advice is not to buy any Mobvoi product!

Ticwatch E compass ???
wyrmbyte said:
I just received the Ticwatch E, I backed it on Kickstarter. Honestly, I just wanted to be able to change watch faces whenever I felt like it and it was only $99.00. If you have questions I'll try to answer them.
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Have you been able to find and use the E-compass supposed to be built in the watch??
I can't find any compass app in the watch and any I've installed from Play don't work (either with location turned off or on). GPS works well, but compass seems dead or absent?
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Vojta1 said:
Hi I have also just received them and I found them to perfectly fit my needs.
I have one question however hoping to find positive answer. As you might know, there is NFC chip on the watch as well, however is disabled thanks to some Android Wear security rules. Do you think there will be a way how to enable the NFC chip?
Having working NFC on the watch would be really nice bonus.
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Hi, don't know your source of information, but to the best of my knowledge Ticwatch S & E use a Mediatek CPU that has no NFC and there is no other NFC built into the watch.
I'll be overjoyed to be proved wrong of course!!

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2. The battery life is horrible. It hardly lasts more than a day, sometimes even less.
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^this!!! I also have the S model.
I am truly much more satisfied with my two year old Fossil Q Founder 1st Generation. There is also a lot of trouble with Google Fit. The values are all over the place. I sent several tickets to the support and haven't received any answers, just a note that the message has been received.
So far a bad expereince. And I thought OnePLus has terrible customer service...

Dito13 said:
^this!!! I also have the S model.
I am truly much more satisfied with my two year old Fossil Q Founder 1st Generation. There is also a lot of trouble with Google Fit. The values are all over the place. I sent several tickets to the support and haven't received any answers, just a note that the message has been received.
So far a bad expereince. And I thought OnePLus has terrible customer service...
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What really drives me crazy about this Ticwatch is that my two threads didn't even appear in their forum. I got a message that they have to be approved by the admin beforehand and then disappeared. I guess they are even censoring their own forum. After couple of days of use with the watch I can report that the battery is lasting not more than 24 hours with very little usage. This is far from the advertised 2 full days. Usually if I track an exercise I need to re-charge it more often.

It would be interesting if someone would find a way to gain root access on this smartwatch. I can confirm that there is NFC and that it is not enabled because the processor doesn't support android pay, but in Chinese version NFC is enabled.

I was a super early bird backer of the S model on the Kickstarter campaign. So far my experiences seem atypical:
1. Got my tracking number and received my watch with no real issues.
2. Battery life for me seems pretty good. As I'm writing this, I am at 30hrs of use with 25% charge left. I have both bluetooth and wifi on, display set at 4 (is that 75%?) , OK Google detection is ON, Always on display is OFF.
3. Wake up gesture is ok, not as laggy as what I have read from others. I'd say it wakes about 90% pf the time.
4. Google Assistant detection only seems to work when screen is on, but i think that is how its supposed to be right? It recognizes the OK Google prompt, pretty well for me, however, I have been told by many many people that I am a loud talker.
Overall, I'm digging it, and am pretty happy with what I got from a $119 investment.

LEMFO LES2 - Information & Reviews - 1.3" IPS | MT6580 | Android 5.1 | Metal

LEMFO LES2
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Specs:
Chassis: Metal
SoC: MediaTek MT6580M
CPU: ARM Cortex-A7, 1300 MHz, Cores: 4
GPU: ARM Mali-400 MP1, Cores: 1
RAM: 1 GB
Storage: 16 GB
Memory cards: None
Display: 1.3 in, IPS, 360 x 360 pixels
Protection:
Battery: 450 mAh
OS: Android 5.1 (Heavily Customized)
Camera: None
SIM card: Single-SIM, Nano Size
Wi-Fi: b, g, n 2.4GHz, single-band, Wi-Fi Hotspot
USB: 2.0, Magnetic Dock
Bluetooth: 4.0 LE
Positioning: GPS, A-GPS
Other Features:
Colors: Black, Silver
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Official Website:
http://www.lemfo.com/
Reviews:
My own review: Post #2
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Introduction
After the well-known LES1, LEMFO decided to release a cost-friendly variant without the AMOLED screen and with a lower-res screen. This is the LEMFO LES2
Just like most entry-level chinese smartphones, also this smartwatch comes with a Mediatek MT6580M clocked at 1.3GHz, with 1GB of RAM and 16GB of RAM. No 4G connectivity is present.
Unboxing
The package contains more than expected accessories: 1x Charging Dock, 2x Micro-USB Cables (Why? xD), 1x Screwdriver, 1x Kit of extra screws, 1x Screen Protector, 1x Manual, 2x Misc. Paper and the Smartwatch (of course).
Unlike some other charging docks i have tested with other smartwatches, this one feels solid and pretty-well made. It sticks perfectly to the back of the watch and the magnet is powerful enough to keep everything in place. I would recommend to get something high and narrow where to place the dock (Apple iWatch docks would be fine) in order to avoid to stress the wristband while docked.
Design & Features
Compared to the predecessor LES1, it must be said that the design hasn't been improved, and with the lack of a 2.5D curved screen, it doesn't look better at all.
Anyway, the chassis is completely made of metal, it feels as solid as an high-quality standard watch, and the build quality is acceptable.
On the right side there are two identical keys, basically an Home/Power button and a Back button. Both keys feel a bit spongy, but i think this is related to some sort of insulation added inside in order to avoid any kind of liquid and dust intrusion.
As regards the left side, there is only the microphone.
The back features a Removable Metal Back Cover, together with an Heart-Rate Sensor, a Speaker Grill and the Magnetic Pin Connector.
Here you can see where it is possible to insert a Nano-SIM Card for Mobile Connectivity (if want to use it as an indipendent device). I would have expected some sort of plastic cover over the motherboard in order to avoid short-circuits or such, but this way it is easier to replace something inside.
As already mentioned before, the LES2 doesn't use an AMOLED screen anymore, but instead it uses an 1.3" IPS Screen with a resolution of 360x360. Don't expect superb quality or color accuracy, it is as good as a mid-range IPS screen, with a mid-high level of brightness.
The wrist-band is good and bad in the same time. It is super comfortable, soft and pretty cosy for the wrist itself, but it is the classic rubber-band that isn't dust friendly at all, meaning that it will look dirty almost everytime. Personally i would have preferred a less comfortable but more hygienic variant.
Software and Usage
This smartwatch runs an heavily customized version of Android 5.1, with November 2015 Security Patches (???), and an overall nice user-experience. There are Custom UIs available online too, but i can't mirror them here.
Here is a video where i show you all features of the UI, so i won't be describing them in the paragraph. There is no audio so don't worry, you can just enjoy the video just like it is a slideshow
Many watchfaces are pre-installed, and it is possible to install other ones directly from the watch, as shown in this other video i made (same way as before, no audio...).
Something i don't find impressive is the Android App used to sync notifications with the smartphone. The UI is pretty simple, easy to understand, but there is an huge lack of features. Basically, it handles only three features: Notifications, Find the Target (in case of loss) and File Transfer. That's it!
Even though it lacks features, it is working as should, even if sometimes gets killed in the background (probably only on Xiaomi's MIUI). Also, it is not available on the Play Store!
Talking about the Battery Life, it isn't superb either. Even without a SIM-Card inserted, with Bluetooth always-on and WiFi off, it barely reaches one day of usage, using it only for notifications and to check the time.
Conclusion
Sincerely i am a bit confused about this new model. Compared to the LES1, it is clear enough that what we get is a downgrade, but the lack of a proper sync app and a pretty limited battery life, do not convince me entirely.
Talking about the positive stuff, the design is clean, it doesn't feel fragile, and performance-wise it is just perfect, it doesn't have any lag even when stressed. This is probably the most similar experience to an Android Wear smartwatch.
Instead, talking about the negative stuff, the screen doesn't look great, battery life is limited barely reaching a day of standard usage (with no SIM-Card inserted) and the lack of a proper android app to sync watchfaces or everything else limit its usage slightly.
So, is this a smartwatch that should be considered? Maybe, if the LES1 won't be produced anymore and if this gets way cheaper than its predecessor, then yes, otherwise, keep looking at the LES1.
Pros:
Solid Chassis
Great Design
Comfortable Wrist-Band
Smooth User Interface
Cons:
Outdated Android Security Patches
Lack of Android App features
Barely sufficient Battery Life
Mediocre IPS Screen
Rating:
Packaging and Accessories: 9.5
Design and Materials: 9.5
Performance & Usage: 9.5
Screen: 7
Sound: 8
Battery Life: 6
Price: 8
You can find full-res images (I know, Quality isn't excellent) here: http://imgur.com/a/Z5WyF
Official Website: http://www.lemfo.com/
You can buy it on many online shops. Official, and authorized, Retailers are listed in the LEMFO website.​

It's very important that people understand what this is.
It is a rebadged Finow X3 +. It just has 16gb storage rather than 8gb.
It's firmware is sadly not much different apart from the same UI as the X5 Air.
The gps is flawed on the original and it will be interesting to see if is the same is true here.
The straps are prone to snap off close to the body of the watch.
The connection points for charging and data suffer very badly from corrosion from sweating.
Battery life is pretty bad and you might find that auto sync is permanently disabled in the system so that push messages are not available. At least this is true of the X5 Air.
I have suggested fixes for some of these issues but sadly they have been ignored by the manufacturer.
I am happy to be proved wrong here and I hope I am wrong - for the sake of the customers.
But until I get hold of one (if I get hold of one) please check out what I have said as I would be impressed if it is not true.
Cheers
Pablo.
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pablo11 said:
It is a rebadged Finow X3 +. It just has 16gb storage rather than 8gb..
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Yeah it might be possible, same OEM.
pablo11 said:
It's firmware is sadly not much different apart from the same UI as the X5 Air.
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It does look identical to most Android 5.1 smartwatches, same OS basically.
pablo11 said:
The gps is flawed on the original and it will be interesting to see if is the same is true here.
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Mine seems to work decently, at least for now.
pablo11 said:
The straps are prone to snap off close to the body of the watch.
The connection points for charging and data suffer very badly from corrosion from sweating.
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At least on mine, these issues are not present.

I'm waiting for LEMFO to release its firmware so that i can work on a Custom ROM, since it requires huge improvements.

Yes, it takes a while, normally a couple of weeks or months for the issues to materialise.
Just have a look at users experience with the X3 plus.
It is the same same watch - confirmed.
However, I still have my X3 plus and it still works but then I don't use it. I keep it for support purposes for the forum members.
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Alberto96 said:
I'm waiting for LEMFO to release its firmware so that i can work on a Custom ROM, since it requires huge improvements.
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Any word on the firmware release? I have been using the LES2 for about a week & the firmware blows. I can't even get gmail to install or most other apps for that matter. Also a lot of the settings seem to be missing that you would expect to find. A few examples are storage, users, battery.
Some app settings like google play. The background is white with the text font color being white. You can barely read the text. This is absolutely pitiful.
The firmware cannot be that different from the Finow X3 or Les1. I don't believe that these issues exist with either of those.

jadesse said:
Any word on the firmware release? I have been using the LES2 for about a week & the firmware blows. I can't even get gmail to install or most other apps for that matter. Also a lot of the settings seem to be missing that you would expect to find. A few examples are storage, users, battery.
Some app settings like google play. The background is white with the text font color being white. You can barely read the text. This is absolutely pitiful.
The firmware cannot be that different from the Finow X3 or Les1. I don't believe that these issues exist with either of those.
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No single word, LEMFO doesn't reply to my request.

Is it even possible to access the official firmwares for this watch? If we ever get troubles, i can't find any rom whatsoever.

manusvieira said:
Is it even possible to access the official firmwares for this watch? If we ever get troubles, i can't find any rom whatsoever.
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Considering their behavior, I don't think so.

Flash a compatible rom maybe? Since many of these devices are practically equal, i dunno.

I revive my les 2 dead after trying intalling another flash rom
first of all sorry for my english but i only speak spanish, Well i tell my experience after a 2 days of attempting reviving my les 2. i tried a few roms similar like the les 1 rom but nothings works on a lot of mistakes in the attempt DR_RAM errors NAND FLASH Errors (when i boot the smartwatch only stripes in the screen and bootloop) etc... well the only slution by the moment that i found is first FORMAT with the SCATTER FILE of lemfo 1
after FLASH in DOWNLOAD mode ONLY SELECT THE PRELOADER with the same scatter file STEP 2 finally FLASH with the rom of FINOW x3 PLUS w612_X3+_160927 but untick the PRELOADER box, i guess maybe i lose the 8gb of memory extra due to download the FINOW X3 PLUS firmware but the lemfo recognized me the 16gb. I'll be testing all the features and any change I notice

This stock watchface (with flags) is amazing. Anyone can post a link to download it?

sukisux said:
first of all sorry for my english but i only speak spanish, Well i tell my experience after a 2 days of attempting reviving my les 2. i tried a few roms similar like the les 1 rom but nothings works on a lot of mistakes in the attempt DR_RAM errors NAND FLASH Errors (when i boot the smartwatch only stripes in the screen and bootloop) etc... well the only slution by the moment that i found is first FORMAT with the SCATTER FILE of lemfo 1
after FLASH in DOWNLOAD mode ONLY SELECT THE PRELOADER with the same scatter file STEP 2 finally FLASH with the rom of FINOW x3 PLUS w612_X3+_160927 but untick the PRELOADER box, i guess maybe i lose the 8gb of memory extra due to download the FINOW X3 PLUS firmware but the lemfo recognized me the 16gb. I'll be testing all the features and any change I notice
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That sounds like a method, i'll be curious to see your testing results. I tried to contact LEMFO to no result. I did recieve an anwer but no firmware access. They basically said to format / restore the smartwatch -.-'

manusvieira said:
That sounds like a method, i'll be curious to see your testing results. I tried to contact LEMFO to no result. I did recieve an anwer but no firmware access. They basically said to format / restore the smartwatch -.-'
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All works fine with the firmware of the FINOW X3+ (with this firmware it can be rooted and install the TWRP) only 2 issues the first i had to recover the IMEI with the apk MTK ENGINNER and second i lose the heart pedometer function but im not sure if its because of the root or another cause. The root and the TWRP boot works well with some versions of the FINOW Firmware but the google play works rather slow

nice work.
Do you confirm losing 8gb storage as well with that rom?

manusvieira said:
nice work.
Do you confirm losing 8gb storage as well with that rom?
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The Smartwatch still have 16gb -3gb of the rom

Can you get access online for clock faces? Did you manage to create a ROM image from stock?

Hey,
I finally got access to the official firmware of LEMFO LES2, given by LEMFO themselves. There is hope after all.

manusvieira said:
Hey,
I finally got access to the official firmware of LEMFO LES2, given by LEMFO themselves. There is hope after all.
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What's the point of this post if you are not sharing it?

DIGGRO DI06 - Information & Reviews - 1.39" AMOLED | MT6580M | Android 5.1 | 2MP Cam

DIGGRO DI06 - Information & Reviews - 1.39" AMOLED | MT6580M | Android 5.1 | 2MP Cam
DIGGRO DI06
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Chassis: Metal
SoC: MediaTek MT6580M
CPU: ARM Cortex-A7, 1001 MHz, Cores: 4
GPU: ARM Mali-400 MP1, Cores: 1
RAM: 1 GB
Storage: 16 GB
Memory cards: None
Display: 1.39 in, AMOLED, 400 x 400 pixels
Protection:
Battery: 350 mAh
OS: Android 5.1 (Heavily Customized)
Camera: 2MP, SuperPix Sensor
SIM card: Single-SIM, Nano Size
Wi-Fi: b, g, n 2.4GHz, single-band, Wi-Fi Hotspot
USB: 2.0, Magnetic Dock
Bluetooth: 4.0 LE
Positioning: GPS, A-GPS
Other Features:
Colors: Black, Silver
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Official Website:
https://www.diggro.com/collections/smart-watch/products/diggro-di06
Official Firmware
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My own review: Post #2
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Review
Introduction
This is the DIGGRO DI06
Part of the nowadays common rebrands, this DI06 from DIGGRO features the same hardware you would find on a low-end 3G smartphone, mostly for power-saving reasons. Together with the MT6580M chipset, there is only 1GB of RAM and 16GB of Storage, all packed in a Metal Chassis and an AMOLED screen, probably the most interesting feature of this device.
Unboxing
A pretty basic set of accessories in included in the package: 1x Charging Dock, 1x Micro-USB Cable, 1x Screwdriver, 1x Kit of extra screws, 1x Manual and the Smartwatch (of course). Unfortunately there isn't any spare screen protector even though one is pre-applied.
The charging dock looks nice, but in reality it comes with a pretty important flaw: almost inexistent magnet. It only sticks to the back without holding the smartwatch in place, and the magnet is so weak that even the lightest movement would cause it to detach. A bit disappointing.
Design & Features
Something really premium about this device is the front glass. It is 2.5D curved and perfectly inserted in the metal chassis, similar to the implementation you get on a smartphone.
Quality-wise everything feels premium too thanks to the Metal Chassis. No imperfections noticed. Its weight is decent, only 63g, not much considering the material.
On the right side there is only one key that works as a back/power button, with a nice tactile feedback. Just below the key, there is a mini 2MP camera (i call it the Spy Camera considering the position) and the main microphone.
As regards the left side, there is only a grill (not bear...) for the speaker.
The whole back side is made of Plastic, with a removable cover for the SIM-Card Slot, the Heart-Rate Sensor and 4-pins for the Magnetic Dock. I was not able to notice any corrosion on the pins after ~1 month of usage.
Luckily, even though i do not like OLED screen too much, this model features an AMOLED panel with a resolution of 400x400 pixels. On a smartwatch this is a must feature for power-saving and real blacks, and i can confirm its quality. Also, it is really bright, but due its limited size i was not able to measure the lux value.
I have been testing lots of smartbands and smartwatches since i started to review tech. devices, and the band used on this device is actually pretty good. It attracts some dusts just like most rubber-bands, but it doesn't get dirty neither it causes the wrist to sweat/fell hot. Let's say a stress-free band. Unfortunately it isn't replaceable, or at least not with something generic since antennas are inside the band.
Software and Usage
Sadly, the software isn't "premium" at all. It runs on a heavily customized version of Android 5.1 with June 2016 security patches. Still, it runs really really smooth with no lags, something i wasn't expecting considering the custom OS.
In order to show you all customizations made to the OS, i made a video that, hopefully, is enough to provide an overview of what i am talking about. The video doesn't feature any voice, so you can mute it or just listen to the included music.
The OS recommends to install an app called "WiiWear" to sync all notifications with the device but it literally sucks, so, as recommended by the company itself, i switched to another app called "Watch Droid" that works perfectly, with no connectivity issues, plus, it allows to reply to messages with personalized templates.
V AVOID THIS APP! V
Instead, install this on your smartphone: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lumaticsoft.watchdroidphone
and this one on the smartwatch: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lumaticsoft.watchdroidassistant
Just some screenshots about the Watch Droid app and the Bluetooth Connection.
Something that impressed me is the built-in mini camera, it is made by SuperPix and provides some great photos considering the low resolution. Sure, it doesn't support auto-focus, but it is way better than most spy camera available on the market. Really impressive.
Here you can see some samples.
Finally, as regards the Battery Life, the 350mAh built-in battery doesn't help much, but at least i was able to reach 1 day and a half of usage without any SIM-Card inserted, but with both BT and WiFi turned on and no battery saving options active. With some software customizations it should be possible to reach at least two/three days of usage, coming later
Conclusion
I don't know how other models released by DIGGRO are so it hard to say whether this is an upgrade or not compared to a previously released model. This DI06 is a solid piece of hardware that requires some software improvements, or at least provide the Watch Droid app by default.
The AMOLED screen together with the impressive build quality definitely make it a step above others i tested, but it is still far from an Android Wear Smartwatch.
Honestly, i can recommend this smartwatch to those who can't spend the extra for an Android Wear model, just consider everything written above and keep following this thread for updates and possible improvements that i will provide. I promise to not abandon this model ^^.
Pros:
Excellent Build Quality
Bright AMOLED screen
Decent built-in Camera
High Quality Band
Cons:
Unpolished and not updated Software
Terrible Magnetic Dock
Slightly outdated hardware
Pricy (based on the official pricing)
Rating: 8.2
Packaging and Accessories: 6.5
Design and Materials: 10
Performance & Usage: 9.5
Screen: 9.5
Sound: 8
Battery Life: 7
Price: 7
You can find full-res images (I know, Quality isn't excellent) here: https://imgur.com/a/MvvVk
Official Website: https://www.diggro.com/collections/smart-watch/products/diggro-di06
You can buy it on many online shops. Official, and authorized, Retailers are listed in the DIGGRO website.​

Nice review, thanks. What might make this desirable until Jan. 27, is that’s it’s on sale!
ONLY FOR US$98.99 WITH CODE DiggroDI06
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burrzoo said:
Nice review, thanks. What might make this desirable until Jan. 27, is that’s it’s on sale!
ONLY FOR US$98.99 WITH CODE DiggroDI06
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It should be the retail price imho. Anyway, thanks for the alert.

A few disassembly photos:

Good review, I have this watch myself but suffer poor battery, maybe 8-10 hours usage with screen mostly off. I use my Apple watch most of the time but this sits on my shelf until I can get better battery performance.
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Do u think there's a possibility to change watch strap and replacing antennas into the new one ?

Alti_14 said:
Do u think there's a possibility to change watch strap and replacing antennas into the new one ?
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I doubt it very much.
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Hey
I bought that watch, too.
Is it possible to change faces?
What sport application can you put on or go through with a blue tooth?
I'm only one day with him, and the battery was not enough for a whole day ... Is your battery the same? ?
Thank you .

Alberto96 said:
Finally, as regards the Battery Life, the 350mAh built-in battery doesn't help much, but at least i was able to reach 1 day and a half of usage without any SIM-Card inserted, but with both BT and WiFi turned on and no battery saving options active. With some software customizations it should be possible to reach at least two/three days of usage, coming later
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I'm very surprised!
I have X3/K9 and in airplane mode with occasional time checking it lasts about 6-9 days. And 2-3 days with 3G on, but I mostly have it off.
But after 1-2 years with it I'm looking for new watch with AMOLED.
How long it stay in airplane mode?

5 hours at most...

Did you try to examine what is battery hog in Battery Usage History option in Settings?
Maybe it is some process or app?

App Scaling
Thanks for the review. I am actually using a similar watch (DI01). I installed the Watch Droid and it works very well. I have 2 questions for those who have similar watches.
1. The Watch droid actually draws over my clockface when i unlock the watch everytime which is annoying as I unlock to see the time.
2. How do you scale apps full screen. My apps appear as square boxes and tiny.

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nabeeltariq said:
Thanks for the review. I am actually using a similar watch (DI01). I installed the Watch Droid and it works very well. I have 2 questions for those who have similar watches.
1. The Watch droid actually draws over my clockface when i unlock the watch everytime which is annoying as I unlock to see the time.
2. How do you scale apps full screen. My apps appear as square boxes and tiny.
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Hi,
I have the DI07 and the o/s looks like the same as mine. To go full screen hold the button to get the turn off option and at the very top you'll see a small white square. This is the option for letterbox or full screen. Tap that and you should get full screen on your watch

Awesome. That fixes one of my problems. Thanks.

Diggro DI06
I want Diggro DI06 USB driver.
THX.

Hi, Does anybody have a link for a replacement charger for this? Or perhaps an alternate compatible charger?

Jimshnoo said:
Hi, Does anybody have a link for a replacement charger for this? Or perhaps an alternate compatible charger?
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Hello!
There is also 2: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Smart-Watc...dwide-Shipping-/223038053180?oid=173366689527
https://www.ebay.de/itm/1-Stuck-Sma...t-Kabel/192411389206?hash=item2ccc9ccd16:g:-c
I have ordered the latter and are good at it.

Hi . I've downloaded watchmaker to try out their fabulous watch faces , but the the diggro DI06 isn't on their list plus it's asking for a companion app !!!
My watch is paired with the phone. I receive all notifications. But I can't use watchmaker. Can someone shed some light on this on how to .
Thanks

Battery life
So are there any similar (or better) spec to this full Android watches with decent battery life? What brought me here was the D101. Its form factor looked great.
Thanks