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Hi all! The purpose of this thread is to gather a bit of information about the LP ROMS people like the most, and why. As you already know Android 5.0 arrived along the last few months to our awesome phone, the Moto G. However the Moto G is a popular phone, and despite being a bit of an oldie there is still a huge amount of support for it from the community. The proof is that we already have (at least) 22 different ROMs we can flash, and counting. Amongst such number of ROMs being developed at a time, it can be hard to choose sometimes, and that's why I came up with this idea. In the end it is something someone would have done sooner or later, and while I am aware that pretty much all of the projects listed here are under development and still far from a final release, in my opinion most are mature enough for daily use at this point. Therefore, I believe it is about the right time to start sharing our opinions on them!
If this turns out right (hope so, lol) we will have a better knowledge of the current LP ROMs out there, which of them are the most chosen among users, and most importantly the reasons that stand behind. Plus, it will be easier for newcomers to decide which ROM suits them best.
Long story short, just vote for the ROM you like the most. I encourage you to post your opinions on the matter as well, so we can know why you like that ROM so much!
Note: I did my best at gathering all the ROMs available at the moment. If you can't find your ROM in the list just post it here (and tell us what makes it cool). I don't know if I will be able to add them to the poll since this is the first one I do, I will if it's possible.
So tell me, what's your favourite lollipop flavour?
Guess I'll be the first? xD My vote goes to BlissPop. I tried a few other like CM12, stock, Resurrection Remix or Pac-rom, and found BlissPop was the one that most satisfied me in terms of features. I like omni-switch, viper4android integration in settings and bliss interface with all the personalisation options. It also fares nicely in overall performance and battery life, and IMO it is quite stable... hardly any bug and when there is one it usually is nothing bothersome. Still got a lot to test out though, so my opinion might change.
Euphoria OS is really good. Very stable, better performance than stock. although right now I have 5.1 installed.
Pacman and exodus
Optimised stock by @lost101 with xposed, fantastic, just how motorola should have done it.
Pacman and aicp
Stock without any doubt.
Broken is pretty good as well imo.
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Euphoria OS is really good. Very stable, better performance than stock. although right now I have 5.1 installed.
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Euphoria is definetly one that I want to give a try to. Interested on it's performance and their cm12 theme is one of the best I've seen.
adizz4 said:
Stock without any doubt.
Broken is pretty good as well imo.
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A lot of people are going for stock, this surprises me a little. May I ask what are the benefits of stock? Is it just stability or is there a difference in performance too? Curious.
Langsuir said:
Euphoria is definetly one that I want to give a try to. Interested on it's performance and their cm12 theme is one of the best I've seen.
A lot of people are going for stock, this surprises me a little. May I ask what are the benefits of stock? Is it just stability or is there a difference in performance too? Curious.
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i guess for some stability and performance. Euphoria OS is a great rom although I am not a fan of CM anymore. they got too big for their own good.
Langsuir said:
Euphoria is definetly one that I want to give a try to. Interested on it's performance and their cm12 theme is one of the best I've seen.
A lot of people are going for stock, this surprises me a little. May I ask what are the benefits of stock? Is it just stability or is there a difference in performance too? Curious. [emoji14]
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Better performance, stability and everything works as it should.
Also xposed gives you almost all the additional features.
Battery life is much better imo
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Euphoria OS is really good. Very stable, better performance than stock. although right now I have 5.1 installed.
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Is it for dual sim ?
Resurrection
Although I'm on stock optimised by @lost101 great battery and stability.. And multitask is great too..
Stock 5.0.2 Brazilian optimized.
Stability, a couple of random reboots but overall stable.
As it was said xposed compensates the lack of some customization or functions.
Amazing battery performance, about 14/16.
resurrection remix 5.4.1
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For the moto 4g has to be blisspop 5.1 so smooth to many optimization to talk about great ROM..
Beanstalk
FlexOS
Resurrection remix falcon xt1033..
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Mokee fans here,anyone here with me
No way to choose the best ROM. Each ROM has a unique features . I think every rom is best. Just keep on giving treat to my phone by constantly changing ROM. Now my current ROM is beanstalk ROM .
So beanstalk is best for now
Hey Guys,
am am very new to the scene.
Currently I am messing around with some OP2 roms but cant decide which way to go.
Since I don't want to start a big discussion nor messing around with all roms available. All that installation and configuration process making me nuts.
Therefore I will give a statement what features the rom should have.
First of all the rom should be stable, meaning no reboots.
The rom should be very smooth without any hiccups.
The rom should also be very battery efficient while screen on and off (but I think this is more related to a proper kernel and configuration).
Additionally the rom should allow some customization, like a theme-engine.
That's all I need.
Currently I've tested out Paranoid with the default kernel and I think that it is very hungry on battery. Were screen off is fine, due to Greenify, PowerNap and Amplify, the screen on consumption is pretty high (~4h SOT).
I am thinking about giving CM13 a try, but I feel, that there are some bugs left (Slow GPS, Vector bug,...). Therefore I don't see a reason to install a rom which might be pretty awesome, but due to an additional configuration task and buggy features turns out to be not suitable.
p.s. sorry for dat english :silly:
are you desi ?
Official cm13 with boeffla kernel and v7's "optimized" profile. Both performance and battery friendly. Gonna switch to the first "stable" nougat build soon tho. All op2 builds are good just pick one that tickles yer fancy.
I use Beanstalk with Boeffla kernel
Official cm13 with boeffla kernel and v7's "optimized" profile. Both performance and battery friendly. Gonna switch to the first "stable" nougat build soon tho. All op2 builds are good just pick one that tickles yer fancy.
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Do you use the latest stable or nightly CM13 build? And what is v7's?
are you desi ?
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I dont get you, sorry. Guess no is the answer.
I'm currently on LOS but I Will return to nuclear as the battery is very poor for me on LOS and RR.
Resurection remix. Can 't beat the optimization options and battery life... Best rom for me.
kodrnusa said:
Resurection remix. Can 't beat the optimization options and battery life... Best rom for me.
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How is the battery life compared to LOS and Nuclear?
I can not make comparisons between roms because I only use RR because of optimizations. I get 2 full days with 5 and a half to 6 hours of screen on time. Can not complain.
Resurrection remix is the only thing that exists.
Unlike the others, I haven't tried RR yet, I thought the locked thread was an indication I should wait.
I've tried Stock MM, Stock N, LOS and Nuclear. The stock ROMs were nice, but I don't get much out of Mifavor, and there are too many default apps I don't need.
LOS makes for a nice base, but requires a lot of tinkering to get what you'd otherwise get from a ROM that's using it as a base.
That's where Nuclear shined for me. It ships with substratum, has nice options for the lockscreen, and statusbar, and kernel optimizations. The battery life has been great so far.
Though, now I'm thinking I should give RR a whirl
This thread should've included a poll. My vote goes to NucleaROM. It is my first non-stock rom on this phone and the moment I started using it I realized how well LineageOS works on this phone and how little I will miss MiFavor or whatever it's called, although I have to admit that the stock rom was pretty fast and smooth aswell.
kodrnusa said:
Resurection remix. Can 't beat the optimization options and battery life... Best rom for me.
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Same here! RR all the way!
kodrnusa said:
I can not make comparisons between roms because I only use RR because of optimizations. I get 2 full days with 5 and a half to 6 hours of screen on time. Can not complain.
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Impressive SoT I must say.
dumbledork said:
Unlike the others, I haven't tried RR yet, I thought the locked thread was an indication I should wait.
I've tried Stock MM, Stock N, LOS and Nuclear. The stock ROMs were nice, but I don't get much out of Mifavor, and there are too many default apps I don't need.
LOS makes for a nice base, but requires a lot of tinkering to get what you'd otherwise get from a ROM that's using it as a base.
That's where Nuclear shined for me. It ships with substratum, has nice options for the lockscreen, and statusbar, and kernel optimizations. The battery life has been great so far.
Though, now I'm thinking I should give RR a whirl
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Same here
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I love LOS 14.1 and am extremely happy since the speaker output was recently fixed. It seems to have the most support also (the whole LOS team)
I would switch to another ROM if the battery life is better though.. thats my only problem with the axon 7 now. are any of the other ROMs significantly better?
Stock, because deodexing is for noobs and bloatware is for pros.
Seriously, just stock. Performance is always better on stock ROMs.
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Stock, because deodexing is for noobs and bloatware is for pros.
Seriously, just stock. Performance is always better on stock ROMs.
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Yes, always better like on Samsung phones with their lagwiz.
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Seriously, just stock. Performance is always better on stock ROMs.
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Lol, let's pretend you know what you are talking about. :highfive:
I am on RR ROM and would not go back to stock. Sound is so much better and really loud without distortion. :laugh:
I have tried most of the ROMs available and I like RR the best. Due to the customizations it has available, I like my phone to be the way I want it.
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I love LOS 14.1 and am extremely happy since the speaker output was recently fixed. It seems to have the most support also (the whole LOS team)
I would switch to another ROM if the battery life is better though.. thats my only problem with the axon 7 now. are any of the other ROMs significantly better?
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For me LOS battery is horrible
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Impressive SoT I must say.
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At 49%
I'd like to try a non stock ROM, but having an Axon 7 and losing the DAC is madness to me.
Alright, so after ROM-hopping for quite a bit over the past three months, I've got a fairly good idea about the various ROMs for our device, unofficial or otherwise. With Oreo coming out soon, and most Nougat ROMs getting their final builds, I thought this might be a good time to give my impressions. While old-timers might not get much use out of this, I'm hoping this will help out anyone that's recently bought a Z2, or is new to XDA.
INTRODUCTION
So, you got a Z2 and are looking to try a new custom ROM to get away from the horror show that is ZUI. Well, I've got good and bad news for ya.
The good- well, if you're a "normal" user that uses his phone to call, text, browse and game for a bit, most ROMs are gonna please you. Most of them are "stable" at this point, meaning you'll get very few crashes/random restarts unless you go full ham installing esoteric Xposed modules. But if you're new to XDA, you're probably unaware of Xposed anyway.
The bad- Most of them will also have some minor issues, and the only way to know if a ROM is perfect for you is to try it. Everyone has their own use cases/expectations from a ROM and thus will have a different experience than you.
My usage: I do not use Google Apps, except for Maps. Most of the apps I use are free/open source, except a few unavoidable one's like banking apps and WhatsApp. That being said, I've tried most(all?) of these ROMs with both Gapps and no Gapps to get a fair impression. Played a few games too, to test the phone in demanding situtations.
I have divided this guide into categories, roughly based on a users requirements. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Usually, if a ROM has insane performance, battery life tends to suffer. The key, as with all things in life, is finding the right balance. When a category has numerical ratings, I will be using a relative scale out of 10. A 10 does not mean that a ROM is perfect in an area, only that it was the best one that I came across.
With that lengthy, but neccessary introduction out of the way, here's the guide:
CATEGORY A: I want my phone to fly, battery life be damned!
I feel that 3 ROMs fit the bill here:
1. VIperOS by @jneto3000
2. Citrus CAF by @DD3Boh
3. Pure Fusion OS by @devabhi
While Viper has been the smoothest by a tiny margin, all these ROMs have amazing performance, and ran anything I threw at them without a hitch. I never had any UI lags while scrolling in apps. That being said, each does have a drawback. With Viper, I've always had a bit of a delay in the fingerprint scanner, PureFusion has been (slightly) unstable for me, and Citrus CAF hasn't recieved the latest KRACK patches, which makes it a no-go from a security POV.
Overall Ratings:
ROM RATING
Viper 10
Citrus CAF 9.5
PureFusion 9.5
Jaguar 9
LineageOS 8.8
crDroid 8.3
AquariOS 8
CarbonROM 7.8
NOTE: Just because I said, "Battery life be damned", doesn't mean all these ROMs have atrocious battery life. In fact, I got ~6.5 hrs SOT with Citrus CAF + Gapps, which is pretty good.
CATEGORY B: I want a good mix of performance, stability and battery life.
I'm guessing most of you belong to this category. Well you're in luck, because most ROMs for Z2 also belong to this category. You can have your pick amongst:
1. LineageOS by @varotone. Was personally my favorite ROM, extremely stable, lightning fast fingerprint, good performance (lagged a bit in games, but butter smooth for other apps) and good battery life. Unfortunately, it hasn't, and will probably never recieve patches for the KRACK vulnerability, so the more security conscious amongst you might want to avoid it. EDIT: Turns out, we did a get a new build, with the same great performance+battery life, but it does have a slow fingerprint unlock, when the phone has been asleep for a while.
2. Jaguar by @optimumpro. Similar to Lineage, it had frame drops with Games, but was rather smooth otherwise. I used this before Lineage, but my screen-on-time reduced drastically after a couple of weeks . On the flipside, many users have, and continue to report good battery life with it, so take my words with a grain of salt. r17 really improves the GPS performance.
3. crDroid by @Subhrajyoti Sen. Insane battery life. I got ~8.5 hrs of SOT (without Gapps) on my second charge cycle. Began to lag a bit so I switched to Viper, although the latest unofficial build has rectified the performance issues. Haven't tried it myself though.
4. AquariOS by @kenny3fcb. Nothing much to say, just a stable ROM with a good battery life. Hasn't been updated for quite sometime though, so no KRACK or Blueborne vulnerability patches.
CATEGORY C: I want security and longevity
Security conscious? Want frequent updates?
The answer, lads- is Jaguar by @optimumpro, and honestly- it's not even close. I think the only way to find the best ROM for yourself is to find a dev whose priorities/use cases align with yours. And if security is your priority- then @optimumpro is your man.
Damn, I sound like a sales guy.
On a serious note though, while I have little idea what Jaguar's security features like- "hardened bionic" do from a technical standpoint, I can tell you that it's usually the first ROM to incorporate security patches and tweaks, from Google or other sources. The dev takes out the time to respond to most queries, and he's said that the ROM will be maintained and updated till Oreo gets completely stabilized.
It has come to my attention that the dev apparently does not release the source code for Jaguar, so I can no longer recommend Jaguar as a privacy-focused ROM.
CATEGORY D: I want a great battery life
1. crDroid by @Subhrajyoti Sen. The last official build gave me the best overall battery life I've had yet.
2. CarbonROM by @ankit99. Pretty good idle consumption. My battery dropped just 1% overnight. Unfortunately not very stable, and hasn't been updated in a while.
Other noteworthy ROMs
1. AEX by @davidevinavil. While I personally didn't a have a great experience with v4.6 of this ROM, a lot of people have. And the dev has always been active, answering most queries. It's worth trying out the 22nd July build, which is pretty good, but doesn't have any recent security patches.
2.. AEX Unofficial by @Star_king12. While ROM has been discontinued, the dev was very helpful with user queries. Also, the 13th September build gave me some of the best battery life I've had on the Z2. I think he's working on a new ROM, so keep an eye out!
I haven't tried every ROM for the Z2, and I'm sure there are few good ones I've missed. Feel free to point to out any in the comments.
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I'm personally using the last ViperOS build for now, and will continue to do so, if the fingerprint issue doesn't bother me too much. If it does, I might give the latest PureFusion or (unofficial) crDroid builds a try. But by and large, I'm happy with Viper.
I hope this helps some of you.
Nice guide bro! Good work !
I think best nougat rom is viper os I have tried it.It has very good mixture of everything butterysmooth performance I have also played asphalt 8 in it and it doesn't lag
I also used to use Viper OS in My HTC senation XE.. that was the best rom. And full of feature..
what about resurrection remix ? can anyone suggest the best build of RR nougat released till yet?
abhay009 said:
I think best nougat rom is viper os I have tried it.It has very good mixture of everything butterysmooth performance I have also played asphalt 8 in it and it doesn't lag
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What about GPS? Is GPS working, i heard Viper OS has problems with it
vuckovic_stefan said:
What about GPS? Is GPS working, i heard Viper OS has problems with it
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I have no problem GPS is working fine and this have phenomenal battery life this is the best I ever used and it is very stable I think u should try to clean flash again
what about aex roms i think they are also good roms
Heating issue and battery are not that much good on aex roms
abhay009 said:
I have no problem GPS is working fine and this have phenomenal battery life this is the best I ever used and it is very stable I think u should try to clean flash again
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Thanks, tomorow i will get Zuk Z2, i will try first Indian MM and if im not satisfied i will go with Viper.
Nougat stock has some anoying bugs, late notifications, double notifications, wifi hotspot problem etc...
vuckovic_stefan said:
Thanks, tomorow i will get Zuk Z2, i will try first Indian MM and if im not satisfied i will go with Viper.
Nougat stock has some anoying bugs, late notifications, double notifications, wifi hotspot problem etc...
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To temper your expectations, I gotta tell you that some people, including me, do have a problem with the GPS on Viper. It does work, but only when you've locked on via WiFi/mobile data, otherwise it takes an eternity to lock on with GPS only. Also, Viper's fingerprint scanner takes a slightly long time to unlock if the phone's been asleep. But it's still a pretty great ROM.
@n'wah Mention the most bug free stable ROM please !
Best ROM in terms of SOT , performance and stability. I know you might read OP but I just need to know.
Cause some ROMs have been updated so
ashwath230 said:
@n'wah Mention the most bug free stable ROM please !
Best ROM in terms of SOT , performance and stability. I know you might read OP but I just need to know.
Cause some ROMs have been updated so
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I'd say go with the last LineageOS build. I would have never left that ROM if it had recieved KRACK patches.
If you NEED to have the security patch, then I'd say go with the last (official) crDroid build. I didn't find any noteworthy bugs while the phone was on, however there's a rather scary bug with offline charging- the display gets flipped and and the phone refuses to turn on unless you press the power button for a long time. Performance is slightly worse than Lineage though.
Viper is also a good choice if you can live with the slow fingerprint recognition time when the phone is asleep and the GPS issue mentioned above. It's what I'm currently using. Best performance, okay battery life.
Also, if you can wait a couple of days, @miju12 is gonna release a new ROM - DotOS. Maybe he's managed to iron out the bugs that are in other ROMs.
Hope this helps.
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I'd say go with the last LineageOS build. I would have never left that ROM if it had recieved KRACK patches.
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Why the Lineage ROM never became Official? Does it support VoLTE?
Is there a way to install KRACK patch manually over any ROM? I wan't to try Lineage as I am using it on Moto G and it is bug free on it. Also, I believe it does not have the latest camera blobs right? We have to flash it?
saurav_k said:
Why the Lineage ROM never became Official? Does it support VoLTE?
Is there a way to install KRACK patch manually over any ROM? I wan't to try Lineage as I am using it on Moto G and it is bug free on it. Also, I believe it does not have the latest camera blobs right? We have to flash it?
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IIRC to become official, the ROM should pass certain quality tests, be mostly bug-free, sensors should work properly etc. By the time the dev ironed out the bugs, he had to step away from development due to personal reasons. I don't think it has the latest camera blobs, volte should work though.
And it doesn't seem that you can flash a security patch manually, if you find out it is possible, please let us know! I feel a lot of users would return to Citrus CAF and Lineage if they had the security patches.
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IIRC to become official, the ROM should pass certain quality tests, be mostly bug-free, sensors should work properly etc. By the time the dev ironed out the bugs, he had to step away from development due to personal reasons. I don't think it has the latest camera blobs, volte should work though.
And it doesn't seem that you can flash a security patch manually, if you find out it is possible, please let us know! I feel a lot of users would return to Citrus CAF and Lineage if they had the security patches.
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And new ROMS come as official even before masses get to use them (see the DOT OS rom thread). Already official :laugh: no quality control.
vuckovic_stefan said:
Thanks, tomorow i will get Zuk Z2, i will try first Indian MM and if im not satisfied i will go with Viper.
Nougat stock has some anoying bugs, late notifications, double notifications, wifi hotspot problem etc...
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Did you get Your device. And did you get the Nougat update notification or something like that.
saurav_k said:
And new ROMS come as official even before masses get to use them (see the DOT OS rom thread). Already official :laugh: no quality control.
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If you wish to pay me, I will maintain quality control.
miju12 said:
If you wish to pay me, I will maintain quality control.
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Your reply makes no sense in the current context. n'wah replied that "to become official, the ROM should pass certain quality tests" and to which I said a new ROM which is not even used by anyone yet is already official. Where does the question of paying or not paying comes here? I think you took it in the wrong sense.
I am still not clear about how this Official status gets decided? Lineage, AOSGP-X are out for long time but Unofficial and here is a new ROM which had issues with the first build and it is already official !!
I like many other users appreciate your and other developer's work and I am also excited about the new ROM you are coming up with. The discussion here was about the Official / Unofficial status.
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Your reply makes no sense in the current context. n'wah replied that "to become official, the ROM should pass certain quality tests" and to which I said a new ROM which is not even used by anyone yet is already official. Where does the question of paying or not paying comes here? I think you took it in the wrong sense.
I am still not clear about how this Official status gets decided? Lineage, AOSGP-X are out for long time but Unofficial and here is a new ROM which had issues with the first build and it is already official !!
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Seriously do you think I have done a random build and publish it? Usually I test my builds myself before publishing but this time I was low on data and the previous build was working good so I didn't test and published which was my mistake and I agree for it. I can't speak for other Roms.
Firstly, Good job keeping and sticking with this OP2 device ! You are truly something.
QUESTION : From all the Oreo Roms available, which has been your favourite combination of Rom and kernel, mainly aimed at battery life and maximum stability ? Keep in mind that this question is posed towards your opinion and YOURS ONLY. Just because you seen someone saying that it's the best, shouldn't be your combination choice.
Cosmic and bb
The new pixel rom has been amazing so far... good battery SOT and smooth rom.
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which has been your favourite combination of Rom and kernel, mainly aimed at battery life and maximum stability ?
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Tried all Oreo Roms except Cosmic. The most I enjoyed AOS Illusion Project with BlueBolt kernel for the reasons you mentioned. Stable, good battery life and enough customisability.