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5.1 on Xt1032

This in encouraging:
"David Schuster: I see a number of questions about Moto G (1st Gen) and if we are going to update with 5.1. The answer is yes, our intent is to update to 5.1 pending partners support. "
Lets' wait and see :good:
Source: https://plus.google.com/+DavidSchuster/posts/cV4vDyyMmw2

enban said:
This in encouraging:
"David Schuster: I see a number of questions about Moto G (1st Gen) and if we are going to update with 5.1. The answer is yes, our intent is to update to 5.1 pending partners support. "
Lets' wait and see :good:
Source: https://plus.google.com/+DavidSchuster/posts/cV4vDyyMmw2
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i have 5.1 on my moto g gpe i had the update about a week ago

+1 (through adb sideload)

bannab said:
i have 5.1 on my moto g gpe i had the update about a week ago
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He wasnt talking about GPE devices, which are updated by Google. He was talking about those Moto G with Moto firmware, updated by Motorola.

Exactly. I know that I can convert stock XT1032 to GPE but I'd prefer to keep Motorola appslike Camera, FmRadio and Gallery, over the Google ones.

enban said:
Exactly. I know that I can convert stock XT1032 to GPE but I'd prefer to keep Motorola appslike Camera, FmRadio and Gallery, over the Google ones.
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me too

MarckozZ said:
He wasnt talking about GPE devices, which are updated by Google. He was talking about those Moto G with Moto firmware, updated by Motorola.
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Again, MOTOROLA updates GPe Moto G, NOT google. So it was almost obvipus that the normal one will get it. And now is confirmed

alvarorojas4 said:
Again, MOTOROLA updates GPe Moto G, NOT google. So it was almost obvipus that the normal one will get it. And now is confirmed
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Yes its pushed by Moto but not developed and tested by it .. infact for all GPE devices .. google develops software and do testing on its part and then push it to OEMs. Then these OEM do short term testing on it and then they release it .
If Google haults these updates after finding any bug ,, then there is no way OEM will push OTA .Its all in google hand when it comes to GPE devices

[email protected] said:
Yes its pushed by Moto but not developed and tested by it .. infact for all GPE devices .. google develops software and do testing on its part and then push it to OEMs. Then these OEM do short term testing on it and then they release it .
If Google haults these updates after finding any bug ,, then there is no way OEM will push OTA .Its all in google hand when it comes to GPE devices
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" Updates to Google Play edition devices are managed by the device manufacturers, not by Google. Google works closely with the manufacturers to provide system updates shortly after a new version is released. Once an update is available, it can take up to two weeks for it to reach your device. Based on your carrier, it may take longer than two weeks after release to get an update.
Google Play edition devices may not receive the latest version of Android if they fall outside of the update window, which is usually around 18 months after a device has been released. "
https://support.google.com/playedition/answer/4457705?hl=en&ref_topic=3450794

alvarorojas4 said:
" Updates to Google Play edition devices are managed by the device manufacturers, not by Google. Google works closely with the manufacturers to provide system updates shortly after a new version is released. Once an update is available, it can take up to two weeks for it to reach your device. Based on your carrier, it may take longer than two weeks after release to get an update.
Google Play edition devices may not receive the latest version of Android if they fall outside of the update window, which is usually around 18 months after a device has been released. "
https://support.google.com/playedition/answer/4457705?hl=en&ref_topic=3450794
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No offense ,, Please go through this and u will get very clear idea
http://anandtech.com/show/7107/htc-...s-4-google-play-edition-review-nearly-nexus/2
If u don't like to read that long ,, a simple extract from that
"Updates for these devices are delivered by Google (bypassing carriers), but are supplied by the original device manufacturer.[3] Although, the updates are not supplied directly by Google, these devices receive Android updates along with the products from the Nexus line"
They are developed and Delivered by Google to OEM but finally pushed by OEM

[email protected] said:
No offense ,, Please go through this and u will get very clear idea
http://anandtech.com/show/7107/htc-...s-4-google-play-edition-review-nearly-nexus/2
If u don't like to read that long ,, a simple extract from that
"Updates for these devices are delivered by Google (bypassing carriers), but are supplied by the original device manufacturer.[3] Although, the updates are not supplied directly by Google, these devices receive Android updates along with the products from the Nexus line"
They are developed and Delivered by Google to OEM but finally pushed by OEM
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From the same article :
"The result is that ultimately the OEMs are in fact responsible for updating these Google Play experience phones through successive Android releases, but through Google's infrastructure."
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That's the point we all saying from start,,,,
Acc to him it was OEM develops GPE updates but we saying that it's developed by Google but it's the OEM decision to finally push the updates . If Google will not develop the updates then OEM can't update Gpe , in case HTC M7 Gpe update was halted and there users start complaining about this on HTC page ,, Htc then released statement that Google hasn't delivered update
Its ultimately OEM push the updates but not develops it

[email protected] said:
That's the point we all saying from start,,,,
Acc to him it was OEM develops GPE updates but we saying that it's developed by Google but it's the OEM decision to finally push the updates . If Google will not develop the updates then OEM can't update Gpe , in case HTC M7 Gpe update was halted and there users start complaining about this on HTC page ,, Htc then released statement that Google hasn't delivered update
Its ultimately OEM push the updates but not develops it
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It is the OEM who builds the update. Then Google infrastructure is used to push the update. All Google does is ensure that OEMs stay as close to AOSP as possible. Google gives them the source code for the update early and then its the OEM's job to ensure that the update is built and is stable. That is the reason why I quoted that particular line in the first place.

OK this is my last reply,,..
For your reference there is one more article from arstechnica.com
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015...gle-play-edition-program-it-was-already-dead/
Some extracts
1. GPe phones were just as much for the benefit of OEMs as they were for developers and Android fans. Google developed the OS and the apps and actually delivered the updates to the phones, but each one of them required OEMs to supply the kernel and support the underlying hardware (including hardware-specific features that were available on some GPe phones but not others)
2.The program didn't exactly start strong, and it doesn't help that Google has spent the last two years making unique “stock” Android versions of devices mostly unnecessary
I can be wrong ,,,tell me

Okay. I stand corrected. I actually didn't know that.

andogeek10 said:
Okay. I stand corrected. I actually didn't know that.
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U r a senior member ,,, I know u were playing with me

Motorola has done a decent job with updates so far. Can't wait to get official 5.1!

The XT1034 haven't received its lollipop update
Sent from my Moto G XT1034

Motorola E3 problem.

I have a problem that I'm asking for help and support, as this is a question and answer forum.
I made a post a few days ago that the moderator decided to delete because people questioned the legitimacy of my problem.
Unfortunately, I have now had the same problem a second time.
I ask that someone please give me some advice and support rather than try to say my problem is a fabrication, made up or a lie.
13/01/2017
I received notification from Motorola that a 22mb OTA security update was available.
At the time, my device, a Motorola E3 XT1700 which was running system version S124 android 6.0, was ROOTED with TWRP, and was running various modifications such as Android N-ify and Pixel style nav bars.
I was puzzled I had an OTA update, I assumed being rooted removed that event happening, but I duly downloaded this update but as I had TWRP I could not flash the downloaded update.
I used "flash fire" from Google play to install the Update.
Installation went quite slowly with my device rebooting around 6 times.
I saw a new materialistic style boot animation and my device rebooted into android.
It quickly ran into serious issues with messages of every single Google app force closing, including Google now launcher and Gboard.
I had to skip the initial set up which I noticed was no different to normal.
I managed to get into settings and my build number and kernel versions were all the same as before.
The only difference I saw was my system version had gone from S124 to S131 and the android version was 7.0, but 7.0 is not available for this device.
The device kept force closing and rebooting every 2 minutes.
I had to contact a Motorola representative here in UK and they agreed to collect my device for examination and repair, but warned I would be liable for the cost.
We did argue over this, and eventually two days later, Motorola agreed to pay for the repairs as they said I had suffered "An exploitation" due to being rooted.
My device had been "reflashed" but I would no longer be able to receive any OTA updates.
They also told me there would be no android 7 for this device, but if I wanted to flash a custom ROM when one becomes available, that was up to me.
I also asked if I could flash a back up from an E3 power to my E3 if it went wrong again, they replied I could not because the E3 and E3 power are different devices and the firmware wasn't compatible with each other.
I do not know what any of that means.
Please help me to understand it.
21/01/2017
My device was returned two days ago, but the same thing has happened today.
Another 22mb update, but this time, my system version is going from S131 to S135 and my device has gone from an E3 XT1700 to E3 power XT1706.
The E3 is a European / American version where as the E3 power is exclusive to India and Asia.
The power is not available here in UK.
I have no reason to lie about this, and have provided screenshots from my device.
Please help me understand why this keeps happening?
That's all I want to know, how has my device became something else, a totally different model number?
How can I get another OTA update if Motorola have switched the function off and told me my new reflashed firmware has all the available updates?
Please will you help me understand this rather than accuse me of making things up or not abiding to the spirit of XDA by telling lies?
I have a genuine problem and fault with my device and want answers, not people calling me a liar.
I have already posted this on the Motorola Google plus community, where I explained I'm 16 years old, and when asking for support in my previous post here about this problem, it was deleted by the moderator for questioning its validity.......

I have since found out on Motorola's own forums this is a dodgy update that if installed can cause severe problems.
Many uses are advising not to flash this update.
I sorta already knew that.
Several users on Google plus pointed out to me they use XDA and have seen this problem talked about in the forums.
Someone directed me to Motorola's OWN forum where users are telling others to not download or flash this 22mb update because it breaks things!!!!

Finally, I want to share proof of my problem by showing the forum some photos and screenshots from my device.
For information purposes, let me list the difference between the 2 E3 models.
XT1700-E3 for Europe and continental USA
Single SIM
1GB ram
8 GB internal storage
XT1706-E3 POWER exclusive to India and Asia
Dual SIM dual stand by
2GB ram
16 GB internal storage
Now Look at the photos of my own devices box and packaging.
My device is a Motorola Moto E3 XT1700.
It has one SIM slot.
It has 1gb of ram
It has an 8gb internal storage.
After applying the update in question, in my about phone settings, my device is listed as a Motorola Moto E3 power XT1706.
I now have some blanked out settings for 2simcards that were not there before this happened.
Proof that something very strange has happened, and most of you think I'm lying.
I have several explanations from Motorola now and from users of Google plus as to what and why this has happened, and Motorola have admitted to being at fault in my case.
I'm happy with the reply I got from Steve who works at the repair centre who handled my case last week.
Let's see what explanations you experts come up with.
I know the answer now, this problem was down to three factors, one being human error in the way I applied the update.......But do you know the other 2 reasons?
I just wondered if anyone will enlighten me.

bubba1601 said:
Finally, I want to share proof of my problem by showing the forum some photos and screenshots from my device.
For information purposes, let me list the difference between the 2 E3 models.
XT1700-E3 for Europe and continental USA
Single SIM
1GB ram
8 GB internal storage
XT1706-E3 POWER exclusive to India and Asia
Dual SIM dual stand by
2GB ram
16 GB internal storage
Now Look at the photos of my own devices box and packaging.
My device is a Motorola Moto E3 XT1700.
It has one SIM slot.
It has 1gb of ram
It has an 8gb internal storage.
After applying the update in question, in my about phone settings, my device is listed as a Motorola Moto E3 power XT1706.
I now have some blanked out settings for 2simcards that were not there before this happened.
Proof that something very strange has happened, and most of you think I'm lying.
I have several explanations from Motorola now and from users of Google plus as to what and why this has happened, and Motorola have admitted to being at fault in my case.
I'm happy with the reply I got from Steve who works at the repair centre who handled my case last week.
Let's see what explanations you experts come up with.
I know the answer now, this problem was down to three factors, one being human error in the way I applied the update.......But do you know the other 2 reasons?
I just wondered if anyone will enlighten me.
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No one here is obligated to help you, despite this being a Q&A section. I'm glad you had a positive response from Moto support. Posting here in a demanding manner is not an acceptable way of asking for help. Again, the name of the site is xda-developers not xda-helpdesk.
Please be respectful at all times in the future and follow forum rules.
Thread closed.

MOTO G5 PLUS WiFi Calling Feature enabled, but not Moto Z play or Moto Z lines?

Hello everyone,
I have a pretty big question and its directly to those hard working developers that work hard to enhance the android experience. I am aware that the Moto G5 Plus has the Wifi Calling feature enabled with T-Mobile. I'm baffled as to why Moto & T-Mobile can't work together to enable this feature for all Motorola phones. It's not even a question of "cant" but they won't. Anyways I was wondering if there was another way around this. Will it ever be possible for developers to access these OS hooks for Wifi Calling and incorporate it into roms for the Moto Z play? The Moto G plus and Moto Z play have identical hardware and software. Any information would be kindly appreciated!

How do I increase the signal strength of my WiFi in the g5 Plus? I have root .. Is there any way? At 2.4ghz it only connects to 72mb and in 5ghz it only goes up to 150mb. Can it increase? Can you help me?

Will the OnePlus 5 support Snapdragon Voice Activation?

I know the OnePlus 5 will *officially* be released today and should come with more definite information, but I still wanted to ask and see what you guys think. Is this iteration going to support always on voice with Snapdragon Voice Activation? A while ago I was thinking of getting a OnePlus 3T but what I read about always on voice support made me nervous. While it wasn't officially supported, some could get it to work and others couldn't. If Oxygen OS doesn't support the feature on the OnePlus 5, what about Lineage OS?
My phone upgrade path in recent years has been Moto X > Moto X 2014 > Nexus 5X (current)... so not being able to utilize the processor's low power voice listening would be a deal breaker for me.

I have a motobz play and this is something I would like to see as well.. Is extremely convenient to be able to say something beyond okay Google to wake my device at any time..

My money will be on, "No."

[NEWS] Moto g5 WILL recive Android 8!

I chatted in the Moto LiveChat, and asked about Android 8. They confirmed that they will bring android 8 to our devices :laugh:
Here is the chat, If you want to read it yourself!
Chat
Status: Disconnected
Indhu: Hi, my name is Indhu. How may I help you?
Indhu: Greetings from Moto and Lenovo. How may I assist you today?
P8tGames: Hello. I have a Moto G5 and I wanted to ask something about the software
Indhu: Please feel free to proceed with the question.
P8tGames: So, I actually have two questions. The first one is: An friend of mine still didnt got the march security patch update. The secound one is, Is the Moto G5 really getting Android 8?
Indhu: Security patches is a phased process, so it may some time before it is made available to all the devices across the world. Please be patient, and hopefully you will get the update soon.
Indhu: You will surely receive the Android 8.0 update.
Indhu: We look forward to the release of Android O and are excited about the improvements Google has made. We don't yet have the source code, which Google will release to manufacturers later this year.
Once that happens, we will dive into the code and will be able to share which Motorola phones will be upgrade
P8tGames: Wow, thats cool. Thank you very much for youre time. I will come back If I have any other questions. Thank you!
Indhu: That's my pleasure!
Indhu: You will be presented with a small survey via e-mail at the end of this Chat. As I really value any feedback about how well I have helped you today, I hope you don't mind taking some time to complete this.
Indhu: Is there anything else that I could help you with?
P8tGames: Yeah, no problem!
Indhu: Thank you for contacting Moto & Lenovo. Have a nice day.
Indhu has disconnected.
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This is incredible! I'm still on the January security patch. Hopefully get an patch before Android Oreo gets to me to keep me happy ?