can you enable Knox active protection after un-rooting? - Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi I have a note 4 (marshmallow 6.0.1).
If I tripped knox by either rooting or flashing a custom rom, and then if I decided to revert back say i unrooted and re-flashed the stock rom.
Assuming everything is back normal except that
now you have "knox warrnety void 0*1"
Will I still be able to:
-Enable Knox active protection from Samsung's "smart manager" app.
-Use "Samsung my knox" app
-Use Samsung pay or android pay
-Do OTA updates
Or is having a "stock non-rooted rom" still not enough and you won't be able to do all of the above as long as you have already tripped knox?
(Also apparently you cannot enable it while "rooted" even if you have managed to root it without tripping Knox).
Thanks in advance :good:

No. Period

pr1jker said:
No. Period
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Hmm... I thought the warranty is the only thing you have to worry about after you trigger Knox

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[Q] Reset the flash counter knox without altering the warranty void - SM-G900F

Hello. Thanks in advance for your help.
(Oh! Sorry for my bad English, not my native language)
My galaxy s5 phone (Samsung SM-G900F) is having problems with the camera, because when the application suddenly appears a message saying "connection error" and does not allow to use it. So I reset the phone to work again.
I thought maybe by installing a newer version of the ROM version would work (my operator no update at that time), so I downloaded the latest version without carrier.
However, the problem occurs again. So I want to take your phone to the warranty offered by my carrier, but I must erase traces of flashes, because otherwise I will not get the phone to warranty.
How I can reset the flash counter knox without altering the warranty void?
At this time, the device is unroot. But in the download mode, the number of flash appears.
Thanks for the help.
gevensa said:
Hello. Thanks in advance for your help.
(Oh! Sorry for my bad English, not my native language)
My galaxy s5 phone (Samsung SM-G900F) is having problems with the camera, because when the application suddenly appears a message saying "connection error" and does not allow to use it. So I reset the phone to work again.
I thought maybe by installing a newer version of the ROM version would work (my operator no update at that time), so I downloaded the latest version without carrier.
However, the problem occurs again. So I want to take your phone to the warranty offered by my carrier, but I must erase traces of flashes, because otherwise I will not get the phone to warranty.
How I can reset the flash counter knox without altering the warranty void?
At this time, the device is unroot. But in the download mode, the number of flash appears.
Thanks for the help.
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Not, there is no way to reset the KNOX flag atm.
gee2012 said:
Not, there is no way to reset the KNOX flag atm.
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So will the company respect that it is a hardware problem and Support the warranty, or not because of the counter?
I don't know what happens in this case, that's why I ask..
Thanks,
sosimple said:
So will the company respect that it is a hardware problem and Support the warranty, or not because of the counter?
I don't know what happens in this case, that's why I ask..
Thanks,
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As you live in Europe warranty even after rooting is still valid, unless Samsung can prove that rooting caused the defect.This is a European law for protecting consumers.
gee2012 said:
Not, there is no way to reset the KNOX flag atm.
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Right now I have 0x0 Knox Warranty Void.
I want to reset the flash counter only ..
I know I can root with Towelroot. I know I can reset the counter with triangle away. But I do not know if using triangle away will tripping knox warranty void 0x1.
Doesn't the Knox Counter 0xsomething indicate if the device has been flashed? If it's 0x0, your warranty is still there and you don't have to worry.
gevensa said:
Right now I have 0x0 Knox Warranty Void.
I want to reset the flash counter only ..
I know I can root with Towelroot. I know I can reset the counter with triangle away. But I do not know if using triangle away will tripping knox warranty void 0x1.
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There will never ever be a way to reset the Knox counter. It is what it is and move on with your life

[Q] S4 I9500 BN2 root without trip knox.

I tried to root with towelroot=not support?:crying:
I tryied vroot and it support,no dare to click, will it trip knox?
Others like geniusroot,kingo root support n trip knox?
Any chances to root without trip knox?
Thank you.
Hello.
I had rooted my Galaxy S4 (i9505), 4.4.2, without triggering the Knox Flag, using CF-Auto-Root, via Odin. The Flash Counter is now 1, due to flashing something, but Knox is 0x0. Flash counter can be reseted by using Triangle Away,
Hope this helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292615
Proof:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mkjnmpwcq6pz2se/DSC_3831.JPG?dl=0
(no 0x1 flag)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gctx9ejiin47rrp/Screenshot 2014-10-04 17.08.39.png?dl=0
(device supported by Kies)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/v8hpbmo815ltn1w/2014-10-04 14.09.39.png?dl=0
(SuperUser working)
Mind that you have to install BusyBox from Google Play, cause it does not come with it.
Have fun
costin96 said:
Hello.
I had rooted my Galaxy S4 (i9505), 4.4.2, without triggering the Knox Flag, using CF-Auto-Root, via Odin. The Flash Counter is now 1, due to flashing something, but Knox is 0x0. Flash counter can be reseted by using Triangle Away,
Hope this helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292615
Proof:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mkjnmpwcq6pz2se/DSC_3831.JPG?dl=0
(no 0x1 flag)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/gctx9ejiin47rrp/Screenshot 2014-10-04 17.08.39.png?dl=0
(device supported by Kies)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/v8hpbmo815ltn1w/2014-10-04 14.09.39.png?dl=0
(SuperUser working)
Mind that you have to install BusyBox from Google Play, cause it does not come with it.
Have fun
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Thanks to you.Still can not root at the moment fir I9500
Not included - Triangle Away - ! NOT OPERATIONAL ON THE GT-I9500 !
Triangle Away can be used to reset the flash counter after installing CF-Root. The flash counter keeps track of how many custom firmwares you have flashed, as this voids warranty. (No idea what this about ? Read up on it, you will want to use this !)
ttkyy said:
Thanks to you
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Bear in mind, that I am not 100% sure that it will work on ALL Galaxy S4 devices (I mean not trigger it).
Also bear in mind that OTA (Over the air update) will NOT work, it will return the message "Phone was been personalized."
Although, Kies sees it. Also make sure you don't have Knox mode activated or installed.
LATER EDIT:
I see that Triangle Away is only for the Qualcomm Galaxy S4 (9505). That means that you can't, at this moment, reset the flash counter. There are basically two things to worry about:
- Knox Flag -> as which seems so, I avoided it by installing that CF-Auto-Root on my 9505. I am not sure about avoiding it on 9500, but it should work.
- Flash Counter -> it raises everything you flash something via download mode. If it's 0, in Settings > About Phone > Status >Phone Status, it will return "Original" or something. If it's anything else than 0 (like 1, which I currently have cause I re-flashed root due to some tiny problem), it will return "personalized" or something like it. That will still void warranty IF the phone is sent to warranty like that, but will NOT trigger Knox. Also that will stop OTA Updates from working, but Kies updates will work (for some reason, samsung bug, use it ).
I have no idea how to help you regarding that Flash Counter on the 9500.
costin96 said:
Bear in mind, that I am not 100% sure that it will work on ALL Galaxy S4 devices (I mean not trigger it).
Also bear in mind that OTA (Over the air update) will NOT work, it will return the message "Phone was been personalized."
Although, Kies sees it. Also make sure you don't have Knox mode activated or installed.
LATER EDIT:
I see that Triangle Away is only for the Qualcomm Galaxy S4 (9505). That means that you can't, at this moment, reset the flash counter. There are basically two things to worry about:
- Knox Flag -> as which seems so, I avoided it by installing that CF-Auto-Root on my 9505. I am not sure about avoiding it on 9500, but it should work.
- Flash Counter -> it raises everything you flash something via download mode. If it's 0, in Settings > About Phone > Status >Phone Status, it will return "Original" or something. If it's anything else than 0 (like 1, which I currently have cause I re-flashed root due to some tiny problem), it will return "personalized" or something like it. That will still void warranty IF the phone is sent to warranty like that, but will NOT trigger Knox. Also that will stop OTA Updates from working, but Kies updates will work (for some reason, samsung bug, use it ).
I have no idea how to help you regarding that Flash Counter on the 9500.
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Thanks again.
I just hav to avoid to take the risk and prevent warranty void,the answer is not to root at the moment.
Thanks gain:good:

Imporant ! please read : re enable Knox after super su disabled it .. need to enable

I need help
please some one .. i need help and it's so important . one of my friend encrypted his data though knox and regardless of what super su and root do with knox and it's disabling knox ... he rooted his phone ! (he is todler and didn't take notice )
anyway his knox now is disabled and he can't access to his data because in security knox is disabled .. how can we enable knox so he can decrypt knox with password and access to his data ... thanks in advance and keep in mind that please guys if you are not sure about how can solve problem without losing data , guide me . data encrypted with knox is so important to him .
target device is Galaxy note 3 n9005 .
If knox is 0x1, then you are out of luck.
celderic said:
If knox is 0x1, then you are out of luck.
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if we unroot phone can't we just enable it ?
Depends how it's rooted. If Knox Warranty Void is 0x1 - you can't do nothing to it. If device is rooted keeping Knox flag 0x0, there might be a way to recover the data somehow, since Knox shouldnt be locked up.
Spere said:
Depends how it's rooted. If Knox Warranty Void is 0x1 - you can't do nothing to it. If device is rooted keeping Knox flag 0x0, there might be a way to recover the data somehow, since Knox shouldnt be locked up.
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since Knox shouldnt be locked up " what is tha mean ? he used cf-root , i wonder knox is disabled , and data locked down in on the internal .. if we unroot it won't re enabled ?
if someone root he can't use knox for entire phone life
afraaa said:
since Knox shouldnt be locked up " what is tha mean ? he used cf-root , i wonder knox is disabled , and data locked down in on the internal .. if we unroot it won't re enabled ?
if someone root he can't use knox for entire phone life
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If he used cf-auto-root Knox warranty is void (you can check that booting phone to download mode, if you don't know how or what that is, Google it. If there is line "Knox Warranty Void 0x1" means warranty is void, and "0x0" means it's fine)
Knox is 0x1 on his phone and that means there is no way to recover data from Knox container, at least as for now, most probably will never be.
Spere said:
If he used cf-auto-root Knox warranty is void (you can check that booting phone to download mode, if you don't know how or what that is, Google it. If there is line "Knox Warranty Void 0x1" means warranty is void, and "0x0" means it's fine)
Knox is 0x1 on his phone and that means there is no way to recover data from Knox container, at least as for now, most probably will never be.
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yeah i know .. abut all you said ... i know guaranty is void but data to him is much important than phone guaranty .. i guess he should get phone to samsung and tell them " data all i need if you want money or void warranty the ndo it ... i guess the only way is samsung speciallists to bring back data !!! i wonder how he ignore the part that super su want's to disable knox !!!!
i wanna test to unroot and see if knox returns or not
afraaa said:
yeah i know .. abut all you said ... i know guaranty is void but data to him is much important than phone guaranty .. i guess he should get phone to samsung and tell them " data all i need if you want money or void warranty the ndo it ... i guess the only way is samsung speciallists to bring back data !!! i wonder how he ignore the part that super su want's to disable knox !!!!
i wanna test to unroot and see if knox returns or not
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Oh god. Knox warranty void means Knox is not secure anymore. You can't recover data no matter what you do. If you unroot, it changes nothing.
Read this article from Samsung about Knox and CF-Auto-Root.
It clearly says: "Once the e-fuse bit is burned, a Samsung KNOX-enabled device can no longer create a KNOX Container, or access the data previously stored in an existing KNOX Container. This is a mechanism to ensure that enterprise data will be protected as long as the rooting attempt is detected."
Spere said:
Oh god. Knox warranty void means Knox is not secure anymore. You can't recover data no matter what you do. If you unroot, it changes nothing.
Read this article from Samsung about Knox and CF-Auto-Root.
It clearly says: "Once the e-fuse bit is burned, a Samsung KNOX-enabled device can no longer create a KNOX Container, or access the data previously stored in an existing KNOX Container. This is a mechanism to ensure that enterprise data will be protected as long as the rooting attempt is detected."
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okay ... thanks for your time . really appreciated . if anyone knows other useful thing please let me know , this data is now not accessible is so critical unfortunately

Samsung Pay still not working after restoring to stock through ODIN

Got my S7 yesterday, played around with root, and decided to go with a stock experience for the time being so I can use Samsung Pay and MST (blasphemous, I know). I used ODIN to restore back to stock, verified KNOX counter wasn't tripped, and went on setting everything up.
I installed Samsung Pay and launched, only to run into the access denied message you would see if you were attempting to open it with a rooted device. Any thoughts as to what could be happening?
Song0330 said:
Got my S7 yesterday, played around with root, and decided to go with a stock experience for the time being so I can use Samsung Pay and MST (blasphemous, I know). I used ODIN to restore back to stock, verified KNOX counter wasn't tripped, and went on setting everything up.
I installed Samsung Pay and launched, only to run into the access denied message you would see if you were attempting to open it with a rooted device. Any thoughts as to what could be happening?
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I would make sure you followed the return to stock instructions in psouza4 thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...-to-notes-root-install-xposed-unroot-t3411039). I flashed through odin yestererday and took the pf2 update that was available when I was done. I am able to install and access Samsung pay. What all did you flash in ODIN?
thefirst__noel said:
I would make sure you followed the return to stock instructions in psouza4 thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...-to-notes-root-install-xposed-unroot-t3411039). I flashed through odin yestererday and took the pf2 update that was available when I was done. I am able to install and access Samsung pay. What all did you flash in ODIN?
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Resolved! Actually, it was my strict adherence to the instructions that led to the issue - the instructions only tell you to flash AP, CP, and CSC back down to PE1. Which was fine and dandy, but my BL remained at PF2, which is the reason why I had issues loading Samsung Pay. I was afraid that I had either tripped the mythical physical e-fuse somehow, or my phone was blacklisted from Samsung Pay servers - fortunately this was not the case! Once I updated everything back to PF2, Samsung Pay was able to load.
Help Galaxy s7
Hello friends, I made the root process in my S7 GALAXY, but the direct method cf self root, now my knox is 0x1. Is this with your method, I can return to the original state knox 0x0 and able to use the Samsung pay ???
[email protected] said:
Hello friends, I made the root process in my S7 GALAXY, but the direct method cf self root, now my knox is 0x1. Is this with your method, I can return to the original state knox 0x0 and able to use the Samsung pay ???
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Sorry but there's no method at this time to reset Knox back to 0x0. The method of root that was posted here wouldn't trip Knox which is why when flashing back to stock they are able to use Samsung Pay again.
how to trip that knox again? and how to check knox state? I had installed stock samsung s7 edge India ROM latest but now smart tutor apps is gone (that i intalled from playstore) and samsung pay is not working

Knox after going back to stock

Hi!
I'm trying to go back to stock to try knox features like secure folder. I have restored my device (Spain unbranded) with SmartSwitch and flashing firmware through Odin.
My problem is that Knox and Secure folder says that it can not work because I have installed unauthorized software. SafetyNet passes, on download mode, I see all official, and Apps (like banking apps) works fine without detecting root.
I have warranty void bit = 1. This means that, even flashing again stock firmware, I will never be able to use Knox? I'm worried about using root cloacks methods because of something stops working (for example due an update) I will unable to access to secure folder.
Thanks a lot in advance!
runtime_Err0r said:
Hi!
I'm trying to go back to stock to try knox features like secure folder. I have restored my device (Spain unbranded) with SmartSwitch and flashing firmware through Odin.
My problem is that Knox and Secure folder says that it can not work because I have installed unauthorized software. SafetyNet passes, on download mode, I see all official, and Apps (like banking apps) works fine without detecting root.
I have warranty void bit = 1. This means that, even flashing again stock firmware, I will never be able to use Knox? I'm worried about using root cloacks methods because of something stops working (for example due an update) I will unable to access to secure folder.
Thanks a lot in advance!
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As your knox is tripped already i.e. showing 0×1 so you will never be able to use knox related security features as well as samaung pay on your phone..When knox is tripped once while in rooting or trying any unauthorised software installation, it will never been reset to initial state either by trying to install stock firmware again..
DroidHackeR said:
As your knox is tripped already i.e. showing 0×1 so you will never be able to use knox related security features as well as samaung pay on your phone..When knox is tripped once while in rooting or trying any unauthorised software installation, it will never been reset to initial state either by trying to install stock firmware again..
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Ok thanks a lot for the info!
runtime_Err0r said:
Ok thanks a lot for the info!
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/guide-secure-folder-samsung-knox-s-t3560079
^^That thread has a tutorial on how to get knox features working if your knox was tripped however I don't think it will as secure as it would be if used the knox features without knox being tripped.
runtime_Err0r said:
Ok thanks a lot for the info!
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I can recommend you flashing ambasadii's ROM. I'm currently using it with the latest SuperStock Kernel and have secure folder fully working. You'll have to download the full 10.1 ROM and the 10.2 OTA which is about 500mb

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