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Newegg Reduced Price to $329

On Tuesday newegg.com reduced the price from $349 to $329. Twenty bucks is twenty bucks....gets me half od a 64GB micro sd

Black is 99c more than the white version LOL

I definitely want this tablet but I'll wait a bit longer. I see this selling for well under $300 really soon
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shook187 said:
I definitely want this tablet but I'll wait a bit longer. I see this selling for well under $300 really soon
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You're probably right but don't ya want it TODAY!

I've heard some folks have been able to get Best Buy to price match Newegg. Actually shouldn't be too hard as this is only 6% discount. In any case, right now Amex is offering $25 credit on statement if purchasing anything over $250 from Best Buy. Thus if you get BB to price match and put it on an Amex card, you are basically getting this for $304 (plus applicable taxes.)

10% off on Newegg for tablets
Gave me $33 off the new $329 price.
$296 free shipping :good:

Here's a bad sign. I had a white G Pad that was sitting in my shopping cart on Newegg. When I went to the website and put another item in the cart, I got a message saying that they were removing the G Pad because they had insufficient stock. Looks like the black model is still available.
So, this means that the G Pad is now available at 11/2 retailers in the US, and basically, it's only available online and not in B&M stores. Another indication that LG is pulling the plug. I'm puzzled about why they seem to introducing it in other markets while they're abandoning it in the US, though. Mysterious.

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Here's a bad sign. I had a white G Pad that was sitting in my shopping cart on Newegg. When I went to the website and put another item in the cart, I got a message saying that they were removing the G Pad because they had insufficient stock. Looks like the black model is still available.
So, this means that the G Pad is now available at 11/2 retailers in the US, and basically, it's only available online and not in B&M stores. Another indication that LG is pulling the plug. I'm puzzled about why they seem to introducing it in other markets while they're abandoning it in the US, though. Mysterious.
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Still showing in stock but the price has been bumped back up to $349.99 and no more free shipping. Maybe they're selling well enough to cut the discount now.

Reckoning said:
Still showing in stock but the price has been bumped back up to $349.99 and no more free shipping. Maybe they're selling well enough to cut the discount now.
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The black one is still $329.99. For those who may be interested.

woody1 said:
Here's a bad sign. I had a white G Pad that was sitting in my shopping cart on Newegg. When I went to the website and put another item in the cart, I got a message saying that they were removing the G Pad because they had insufficient stock. Looks like the black model is still available.
So, this means that the G Pad is now available at 11/2 retailers in the US, and basically, it's only available online and not in B&M stores. Another indication that LG is pulling the plug. I'm puzzled about why they seem to introducing it in other markets while they're abandoning it in the US, though. Mysterious.
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Not available at B&M stores? That is absolutely false. The eight (yes 8 ) closest Best Buys to me have it in stock.
It's also still available at Newegg, just not on sale.
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Not available at B&M stores? That is absolutely false. The eight (yes 8 ) closest Best Buys to me have it in stock.
It's also still available at Newegg, just not on sale.
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I should have said barely available at B&M stores. In my area, half the stores have a few units in the cage where nobody can see them. None of the stores have them on display.
I didn't see that the white unit was still showing up on Newegg, but apparently it is. The fact that they're raising the price going into Black Friday suggests to me that they are running out of inventory. None of this is good news.
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The black one is still $329.99. For those who may be interested.
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I just noticed that Newegg has now raised the price on the black one back up to $350, too.

woody1 said:
I should have said barely available at B&M stores. In my area, half the stores have a few units in the cage where nobody can see them. None of the stores have them on display.
I didn't see that the white unit was still showing up on Newegg, but apparently it is. The fact that they're raising the price going into Black Friday suggests to me that they are running out of inventory. None of this is good news.
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I just noticed that Newegg has now raised the price on the black one back up to $350, too.
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Yes, they did back to $349. I really want to buy this tablet, but there something telling me not to buy it, such as cases, battery life, updates...
The Smart Case advertise on their website is nowhere to be found nor any body know it will ever being sold. But it's a good tablet, I might want to wait until Christmas to see if the price goes down...

ngoisaoconlai said:
Yes, they did back to $349. I really want to buy this tablet, but there something telling me not to buy it, such as cases, battery life, updates...
The Smart Case advertise on their website is nowhere to be found nor any body know it will ever being sold. But it's a good tablet, I might want to wait until Christmas to see if the price goes down...
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The HP Slate 8 pro with the tegra 4 is out now, 329.99. I'd consider it but I fear development, or lack thereof, will be the same as the gpad.
Off to do some research.
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The HP Slate 8 pro with the tegra 4 is out now, 329.99. I'd consider it but I fear development, or lack thereof, will be the same as the gpad.
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Hmm, I hadn't looked at this one before you mentioned it. Looks like it has 4:3 ratio (which some people prefer). One other issue is that it only has 1 Gb RAM which will probably affect the performance. Still might be worth a look.
With any luck, we'll start seeing some more 8" options in the coming months. Maybe some of them will make a better attempt to sell their devices than LG has.

woody1 said:
Hmm, I hadn't looked at this one before you mentioned it. Looks like it has 4:3 ratio (which some people prefer). One other issue is that it only has 1 Gb RAM which will probably affect the performance. Still might be worth a look.
With any luck, we'll start seeing some more 8" options in the coming months. Maybe some of them will make a better attempt to sell their devices than LG has.
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The 4:3 is most likely a deal breaker for me. I've spent some time with an iPad mini and the aspect ratio just felt weird, probably because I haven't had a 4:3 ratio anything since the old computer monitors.
Regarding the RAM, some reviews I've read claim 1 GB and others claim 2, not sure why the discrepancy but it's a moot point after the screen ratio.
I'll probably just wait until the 8.3 goes on sale again somewhere. Hopefully there'll be another competitor in this screen size by that time.
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The 4:3 is most likely a deal breaker for me. I've spent some time with an iPad mini and the aspect ratio just felt weird, probably because I haven't had a 4:3 ratio anything since the old computer monitors.
Regarding the RAM, some reviews I've read claim 1 GB and others claim 2, not sure why the discrepancy but it's a moot point after the screen ratio.
I'll probably just wait until the 8.3 goes on sale again somewhere. Hopefully there'll be another competitor in this screen size by that time.
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I'm kind of thinking the same thing. I might pick up a cheap substitute (Nexus 7, e.g.) and wait for a decent 8" device to come along. It might turn out the the problem with the G Pad is just production shortages. If that's the case, then they may lower the price and get them out to more retailers when they are able to produce enough devices. If that doesn't happen, I'll look for something else. I'm just not ready to buy a G Pad until there are enough people owning one to make a community.

Just ordered one tonight.They had them on sale with a promo code for 50% off.Can't beat it for 174.99.Had a Note 8 and sold it.Got a ipad air.Missed having a Android tablet.Think I will return the Air now that I got the G Pad.

rdcamero said:
Just ordered one tonight.They had them on sale with a promo code for 50% off.Can't beat it for 174.99.Had a Note 8 and sold it.Got a ipad air.Missed having a Android tablet.Think I will return the Air now that I got the G Pad.
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Do share. Where did you get the 50% off promo?

cbb77 said:
Do share. Where did you get the 50% off promo?
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Just used it and it worked! Its "LUCKY26"

clemson77on said:
Just used it and it worked! Its "LUCKY26"
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And what web site did you use this code on?

Sagging sales...really?

http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2013/11/21/lg-release-g-pad-tablet-more-overseas-markets.html
Gee, I wonder why sales are below expected in the US? Could it be Best Buy's epic failure at promoting the product? The people at BB should be running the NSA; they're better at keeping secrets.
Maybe LG should just rename it the Area 51 Pad...lots of people have heard of it but BB continues to deny it's existence.

No kidding! The Best Buy help weren't aware of it and took forever to find it in "the cage".

LG has officially jumped the shark.

I don't know who is to blame LG or Best Buy or both but it does make you scratch you head in wonder how they plan to sell this tablet based on current marketing an store display. Why give Best Buy an exclusive if they don't plan to display it and sell it? They need to get this in more stores out on display. They also need to drop 30-50 off the price here in the states if they want it to sell it needs to be cheaper than the first iPad mini and the Samsung Tab 3 8 regardless of the specs and it being a better product most Americans don't know specs they know brand name and price.

Ya, BB has this thing in their phone department next to the G2. Like what?
They need this over with the other tablets, let alone the other 8" tablets. Luckily I knew where to look so i can get a hands on before deciding on a purchase online

The two BB near me do not even have it out in the phone area they have a picture of it in the G2 display but not the actual device.

It does feel like that what is otherwise a fantastic tablet will again fail to sell properly. Just like the Samsung 7.7 did in its time. You have to wonder...

BB has no interest in promoting specific products. If the G Pad fails, it makes no difference to them. They are just as happy selling an iPad or a Samsung Note. LG is the one who loses when this product is a flop. It's up to LG to make sure that retailers sell the product. If they made the product attractive to BB, then BB would sell it. The real problem is that LG has not advertised the product, they've priced it too high, and they haven't provided the right incentives to retailers.
A retailer isn't going to give shelf space or attention to a product that is as poorly marketed as the G Pad. If a lot of people were coming into the store asking for it, BB would pay more attention. It's LG who's keeping the product a secret. BB is just following their lead.
And why are BB and Newegg the only authorized dealers?? Why isn't Amazon, Target, Costco, Sam's Club and Walmart selling this? Where are the magazine and TV ads? The billboards? The point of sale kiosks, etc? LG seems to have no serious interest in this product. Any product that was as poorly marketed as this one would fail in the market.

At least my local Best Buy has a white one up for display *in the phone section* away from all the other tablets and readers.

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At least my local Best Buy has a white one up for display *in the phone section* away from all the other tablets and readers.
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I got mine on release date. They didn't have any on display and only one left in stock (other than the one that the guy tried to sell me the display unit and then noticed the computer said it was $1000 for it).

I visited my local Best Buy last night and they still don't have it on display (in tablet or phone area) or in stock. I really don't understand why LG has dropped the ball on this but it seems to be in line with about every other mobile company minus Apple and Samsung. Every display other than the Apple and Samsung displays looked cheap and run down. The Nexus 7 display looked fine, but they have a demo running on all of their models so you can't even get a real feel for how it works. If LG would put a nice display in the tablet area, these things would sell fast. I just hope enough sell to have a decent development community.

LG must not. want to be successful. they had it on display only at. best buy with the mobile phones. No advertising, ovepriced and lackluster support.
Whose poor ideas were this? only. 1 retailer in the US?
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Apparently, US sucks *JOKE*
Here in Europe you can get your G Pad in 95% of all the electronics shops. Its really strange what's going on in the US...

I don't know how well the tablet is selling worldwide but at the biggest electronics store here in Zurich, I think it's doing quite well with the Black version sold out and only a few white versions left. Of course, this could be due to low stock to begin with, I'm not sure. I really hope it does well because I just got mine and it's probably one of the best electronic gadgets I have ever bought.
I'm no stranger to Android (although I haven't spent a great deal of time on the latest hardware such as the HTC One, G2 or Galaxy S4) but I was always a little disappointed by the promise of "buttery smooth performance" from the Jellybean. I have a One X and also another tablet from Pipo running the RK3188 so it's no slouch but both are not what I would call a smooth experience (although my One X became a heck of a lot better after flashing Cyanogenmod). I originally came from iPhones and iPads so I was very disappointed in this regard.
Now with the G Pad, I finally know what "buttery smooth" feels like on an Android. The machine is just incredible with next to no interface lag at all and all the apps zip around without any effort. The Wi-Fi strength is also incredible, picking up my router from distances that my One X, iPad mini or iPhone 4S could never have.
For the sake of LG, I hope it really does well. They deserve it and will hopefully release more products like this in the future.

marcolorenzo said:
I don't know how well the tablet is selling worldwide but at the biggest electronics store here in Zurich, I think it's doing quite well with the Black version sold out and only a few white versions left. Of course, this could be due to low stock to begin with, I'm not sure. I really hope it does well because I just got mine and it's probably one of the best electronic gadgets I have ever bought.
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As you pointed out low stock could mean heavy selling or it could mean low stock. Considering the way it started off in the US, i.e., few retailers and high prices, I'm inclined to think that LG does not have a lot of capacity to manufacture the units. Currently, we're seeing more discounting in the US and few more options for retailers, but it is still not widely sold. Could be that the situation will get better as they produce more units.

Awesome tablet but I just returned mine to BestBuy. I've been burnt before buy buying a killer device that no one else bought. Software updates don't come and accessories don't fit. Very sad that LG made this ridiculous exclusive distribution deal.

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It does feel like that what is otherwise a fantastic tablet will again fail to sell properly. Just like the Samsung 7.7 did in its time. You have to wonder...
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I'm moving to the G Pad from the Lenovo A2109. A great device for the money...
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I played with one at best buy in southern il today it was next to the lg g2. I think I'll love this thing it's the perfect size and seems fast. I figure I'll keep for at least a year maybe longer if no one comes out with a better 8 inch tab. Samsung's note screen sucks I also looked at it today.
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MarkLI88 said:
I don't know who is to blame LG or Best Buy or both but it does make you scratch you head in wonder how they plan to sell this tablet based on current marketing an store display. Why give Best Buy an exclusive if they don't plan to display it and sell it? They need to get this in more stores out on display. They also need to drop 30-50 off the price here in the states if they want it to sell it needs to be cheaper than the first iPad mini and the Samsung Tab 3 8 regardless of the specs and it being a better product most Americans don't know specs they know brand name and price.
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Well Said Mark..
Even though they had no choice but to drop the price, still BestBuy does not even display it.
woody1 said:
BB has no interest in promoting specific products. If the G Pad fails, it makes no difference to them. They are just as happy selling an iPad or a Samsung Note. LG is the one who loses when this product is a flop. It's up to LG to make sure that retailers sell the product. If they made the product attractive to BB, then BB would sell it. The real problem is that LG has not advertised the product, they've priced it too high, and they haven't provided the right incentives to retailers.
A retailer isn't going to give shelf space or attention to a product that is as poorly marketed as the G Pad. If a lot of people were coming into the store asking for it, BB would pay more attention. It's LG who's keeping the product a secret. BB is just following their lead.
And why are BB and Newegg the only authorized dealers?? Why isn't Amazon, Target, Costco, Sam's Club and Walmart selling this? Where are the magazine and TV ads? The billboards? The point of sale kiosks, etc? LG seems to have no serious interest in this product. Any product that was as poorly marketed as this one would fail in the market.
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Well Said Woody.
Fast forward to the present and it's still the same.. BestBuy could care less about this Tablet.. a lot of sales reps still don't know about it and it's still to this day not on display..
And that's sad.

I have posted similar thoughts about lack of promotion and availability for this tablet in other forums. It's very strange to have such a product available only at one B&M retailer (BB), and one online store (Newegg), and as a GPE version. With that approach you would think LG would have dumped a bunch of money into promoting the G Pad at BB. I've seen enough complaints in the reviews at Newegg (and elsewhere for units purchased from Newegg) to think they were chosen to handle the returns, refurbished units, and otherwise 'unclean' units.
Having said that, our BB started displaying a black version and a white version G Pad a couple of weeks ago. Last week they price matched Newegg's $280 for the black version for me when they were selling theirs for $350. The sales rep I got knew all about the G Pad and started trying to sell me on it but I already knew everything I needed to know.
Now VerizonWireless has started to sell it as well, with LTE. That could be a breakthrough for this tablet, especially with the pricing model they have ($100 with a 2 year contract through tomorrow, $149 after that, and $300 with no contract). Those prices are pretty enticing, I think, especially compared to BB's $350 everyday price for the WiFi only model. It will be interesting to see what happens with this tablet now that VW is in the picture.
Another thought. I've wondered, especially since the GPE came out, if maybe the G Pad is a trial run for a Nexus 8 replacement for the Nexus 7 and maybe a new Nexus 10 as well that a lot of folks are waiting for. Google got a lot of heat for the issues many folks had with the Gen2 Nexus 7 built by ASUS. Maybe they are testing the waters with LG for their next generation Nexus tablets and they and LG aren't necessarily concerned about how much money they make from this one. Just a thought.

Rumoured Priv Specifications

Some rumours from here,
http://www.smartphoneandprice.com/b...-android-smartphone-full-specs-and-price.html
Can't comment on the accuracy though.
5.4" QHD Display, 2560x1440
18MP Rear facing camera
Snapdragon 808 CPU
3GB RAM
32GB internal storage, expandable via microSD
3560mAh battery
£250/$350/€320
If true, at that price I'm hugely tempted to move from my Xperia Z2.

While the specs are pretty decent, one of the other rumors Ive heard is that its coming with Lollipop. If I have a phone coming out in the next month or two, I want it to have Marshmallow or an absolute guaranteed timeframe of being upgraded. Granted, I am big on running ROM's but will the bootloader be unlocked to do so? And if so, how many developers will really jump on this phone to work on it?

From what I hear it ships with 5.1.1.
Marshmallow isn't even out yet is it? And is likely to be buggy are launch anyway. I doubt it'll be stable until towards the end of Q1 2016 so I don't think I'd want it shipping on a phone out this year.

That price looks way too low, and the battery rumors have been all over the place. Remember, that curved screens isn't cheap.

There is no chance of it being £250 - absolutely none. If you have followed BBRY as long as I have - they still think they can charge premium prices (partly why their devices bomb) and even after shedding a lot of staff their cost base would not support that - think at least £400.

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There is no chance of it being £250 - absolutely none. If you have followed BBRY as long as I have - they still think they can charge premium prices (partly why their devices bomb) and even after shedding a lot of staff their cost base would not support that - think at least £400.
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Yep, I agree. £400-£450 band is really buyable.
We don't know how BB places this phone on the market. Premium Business Device or Hi-End Consumer Phone ? Neither both, It won't be cheeper than S6 or Note 5 because build quality looks good and and additional hardware always cost more.

Joezhang said:
There is no chance of it being £250 - absolutely none. If you have followed BBRY as long as I have - they still think they can charge premium prices (partly why their devices bomb) and even after shedding a lot of staff their cost base would not support that - think at least £400.
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assuming that's about $500, that's about what I was thinking. It will be flagship priced, on the lower end, so $499 sounds like a sweet spot for Premium device that is still affordable. BB's most expensive phone is the Silver Passport, and that's $550, so I don't see it exceeding $599 to remain competitive. I saw a "leak" online somewhere from a Toronto channel that claims it will be 800 CAD, which is roughly $606.

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assuming that's about $500, that's about what I was thinking. It will be flagship priced, on the lower end, so $499 sounds like a sweet spot for Premium device that is still affordable. BB's most expensive phone is the Silver Passport, and that's $550, so I don't see it exceeding $599 to remain competitive. I saw a "leak" online somewhere from a Toronto channel that claims it will be 800 CAD, which is roughly $606.
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At that kind of price Blackberry are pricing themselves out of the market really. If they want to shift units they're going to have to keep the price low when going up against other Android handsets.

I dont know if this was brought up or anything but does anyone know if this might have Qi(wireless) charging?

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I dont know if this was brought up or anything but does anyone know if this might have Qi(wireless) charging?
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That's a good question. I've heard absolutely nothing about how it charges. We don't even know if it has fast charging either. Hopefully it has both.

Does it has type c USB?

Carter123 said:
Does it has type c USB?
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All the leaks have shown a normal angular looking micro USB port.

Carter123 said:
Does it has type c USB?
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I believe the new Nexus models and the upcoming Lumia 950 are the only phones launching this year with USB-C.

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I believe the new Nexus models and the upcoming Lumia 950 are the only phones launching this year with USB-C.
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One plus two.
Plus a number of less known phone companies (Xiaomi, LeTV, etc)
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I had a series of BB for 10 years. I miss the keyboard. I will have to try one of these and if they are close to the discussed price range will buy one. It looks like a large phone, however.

Sooo new spec sheets list the front cam as only 2 MP?? Is this an error or was the 5 MP rumor too good to be true? Not a deal breaker, but man, will THAT be disappointing. Awesome 18 MP Schneider Kreuznach lens on the back and... a camera from like 2005 on the front.

It's officially time, guys! Pre orders are LIVE!
http://us.blackberry.com/smartphones/blackberry-priv/buy.html
$699 for the U.S. version. The front cam is 2 MP, but has a f/2.9" aperture with 1.75 micron pixels. I'm no camera buff, but that sounds good? Also, NFC confirmed, Fast charging confirmed, wireless charging confirmed... No compromises aside from the battery being non removable. Releases November 6. Still no word on whether the carriers will sell them directly.

I have no idea why they would remove wireless charging on all the models except for the US, as the specs stand. They did spend the money to test them in the lab, then last minute pull it all out?

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That phone is elegant but I'm worried about the Slide keyboard thing, if it uses flex cable it will wear anytime. One thing, it doesn't have gyro sensor.
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The mechanism is solid apparently.
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How much would you pay for developer edition

Verizon 64gb with two batteries. New screen and fresh developers flash, new speaker. Basically new phone tempered glass installed with extra glass. Spiegen hybird case blue as well as 64gb SD card. Oh and see view folding cover.
Just trying to get an idea if I decide to sell.

Oops typo it's got 32gb internal 64 gb external. Oh and please let's not turn this into what phone ate you getting note 5 bashing thread.

I don't think a case or a screen protector really adds any value to a sale unless they are new in box. You're really only selling the phone and the extra memory is a little bonus. Who wants to use a used case or a used screen protector that has somebody else's greasy fingerprints embedded in it? Let's be honest, memory cards are cheap anyhow. That being said, it's a rarer phone that is hard to come by and you are including two batteries. If anybody is paying more than 700, They are getting ripped off. I wouldn't pay more than 600 if I were in the market for it.
Of course, if you're listing on Swappa, you have to up the price to cover the buyers fee, the shipping and the 2.9% Paypal fee. So add that to the dollar amount too. (For examples, my regular Note 4 is listed on CL for 55 bucks cheaper than it is on Swappa.)

Ok $600 for just the phone and batteries. I do have to disagree with no value for memory card. If the person doesn't have one they CERTAINLY would need to buy one. Just my thought.

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Ok $600 for just the phone and batteries. I do have to disagree with no value for memory card. If the person doesn't have one they CERTAINLY would need to buy one. Just my thought.
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True, but it's not like they are that expensive. I paid ten bucks for a 32GB Sony Class 10 Micro SDHC. I added mine in and did word it like it's a great bonus hoping that whomever buys it will agree and not just look up the price on Amazon. LOL

I wouldn't give more than 450 for a DE. I pick up perfect condition note 4's the last 2 month's for 300 and 325. As weak as verizon development is I couldn't picture 6 and 700 for a used, abused and repaired Note 4 DE... just saying even if it looks new, but have replaced speaker, and being a De, it's been worked and not been babied And I agree with the other guy, cases, screen protectors don't mean much to most. Also if you research you can pick up class 10 64gb cards for 30 to 35 bucks. Hell, I picked up a SanDisk 128gb for 80.00 a month ago.
Just my 2 cents!

Ok we got $600 or $450 without the goodies. Average $525 so far.

I'd do 450 because I'd rather have the note 4 than anything else new or old today. But it depends on the buyer, and how much they're willing to spend on a year old phone with no official support from Samsung or indie devs

I have a DE, but if mine broke, I'd honestly pay up to $800 for another one mint

pospower said:
Verizon 64gb with two batteries. New screen and fresh developers flash, new speaker. Basically new phone tempered glass installed with extra glass. Spiegen hybird case blue as well as 64gb SD card. Oh and see view folding cover.
Just trying to get an idea if I decide to sell.
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I've seen several Developer Edition Note 4s, mint condition, going for $750.00, if you can find one...$700.00 for good condition and both for phone only, no case, so SD and no extra battery.

rickyray9 said:
I have a DE, but if mine broke, I'd honestly pay up to $800 for another one mint
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Same here. i'd probable pay $1000. I love my Note 4 DE! Hands down the best out right now

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If I was in the market for DE I would go as far as $600 for a mint one. Even that is a bit of a stretch for a year old phone with little support. I'm happy with the phone I currently have and have no desire to downgrade but I thought I'd throw my 2 cents in.

Unless the retail gets root the VZW will not see much dev support. The dev edition would lose it's value if the retail got root. I say it's time to sell your dev edition while it's inflated value survives. With the Nexus and LG phablets coming soon the N4 will soon be a outdated and forgotten phablet. Timing is everything.

tbparkey said:
I say it's time to sell your dev edition while it's inflated value survives. With the Nexus and LG phablets coming soon the N4 will soon be a outdated and forgotten phablet. Timing is everything.
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Interesting perspective, but the value is there because it's a supported device for android 6.0 with everything you could possibly love in a phone. As long as the resale value will be above $400 for at least another year, a DE holder should still ultimately profit or at least break even by not purchasing a $600+ phone this year and seeing what the next wave brings.

You need to check out the last page of this thread.

Look at all these people trying to lowball a guy offering to sell a Note 4 DE.
Meawhile this guy threw his up on Swappa for $1100.
https://swappa.com/listing/HLI447/view
If OP sold his N4DE for $500 or $600 he literally had it stolen from him.

U01637 said:
I'd do 450 because I'd rather have the note 4 than anything else new or old today. But it depends on the buyer, and how much they're willing to spend on a year old phone with no official support from Samsung or indie devs
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$450 LOL you do realize the last one on swappa sold for $1,000 and lowest ive seen is like $750

Oh and the phones not a year old. It's been completely refurbished by daamsung and has 2 new batteries. Oem. Not ebay knockoffs.

Just posted mine:
https://swappa.com/listing/JAG485/view

x4 vs pure

so i have a question for everyone.
being that the delays are significant for updates and we havent seen an update since february, the delay on this is like a middle finger to us MXP users with just a 7.0 update. so i have a question.
would you sell the pure for the android one x4? and why or why not?

Android One edition? Yes. Google is handling the updates, so you shouldn't have to wait a year to get an out of date OS. But I am not in the market. My Pure still works. I would still be using my phone from 2014 if I didn't shatter the screen. Twice.
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Loaded question... would I sell my Pure to get a X4? Absolutely, if I could get the X4 for what I sold my Pure for...
Otherwise, I see the X4 as G5 Plus with a few golly gee whiz-bang add ons and that's it. All the Android reviewers keep ohhhing and ahhhing over it, but I just don't see the big deal at that price point... If it was $100 less, maybe.
Just an FYI... I sold my 32GB Pure in mint condition with 3 like new brand-name cases and a couple extra tempered glass screen protectors for $180 a month ago, and I was actually pretty surprised I got that much, would have taken $150 or $160 just to get rid of it, started asking $200 and it sat for a month with no interest.

acejavelin said:
Loaded question... would I sell my Pure to get a X4? Absolutely, if I could get the X4 for what I sold my Pure for...
Otherwise, I see the X4 as G5 Plus with a few golly gee whiz-bang add ons and that's it. All the Android reviewers keep ohhhing and ahhhing over it, but I just don't see the big deal at that price point... If it was $100 less, maybe.
Just an FYI... I sold my 32GB Pure in mint condition with 3 like new brand-name cases and a couple extra tempered glass screen protectors for $180 a month ago, and I was actually pretty surprised I got that much, would have taken $150 or $160 just to get rid of it, started asking $200 and it sat for a month with no interest.
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well i ask because i have the 64 gig with black leather and red accent. just had it replaced by moto care 1 month ago and im considering it but im not sure

Jonathanlc2005 said:
well i ask because i have the 64 gig with black leather and red accent. just had it replaced by moto care 1 month ago and im considering it but im not sure
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Unfortunately, once these phones hit 2 years from release, the price plummets... I usually use Swappa as a good reference for prices, the 64GB version is averaging about $217 as of August, and I expect the September price to be closer to $210. (Ignore the $240 recent price average for the 16GB model, it's obviously a glitch).
Good luck though, depending on your local area that price could vary quite a bit. Around here cell phones usually go a tad on the high side, so take it for what it's worth.

I would not go for any moto again after x style, simple answer.

iks8 said:
I would not go for any moto again after x style, simple answer.
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Eh... Still tough to ignore the value in a phone that has an unlockable bootloader, (mostly) pure Android, quality build and specs. And for US users, the Verizon and Sprint CDMA network compatibility.

acejavelin said:
Eh... Still tough to ignore the value in a phone that has an unlockable bootloader, (mostly) pure Android, quality build and specs. And for US users, the Verizon and Sprint CDMA network compatibility.
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And also to top it off, those stereo front firing speakers! Lol

snapdragon 630 it is.. better than 625 and 626 tho
it has Bluetooth 5 with new feature which i guess everyone knows+it will have a better camera than mi a1 and g5s+
it's android one (we can atleast hope for android q)
it has it's own camera app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.motorola.imagertuning_payton&hl=en
so we can expect better pic quality+sharper img's
but only things missing are dual front facing stereo speakers , 4k display and main thing moto maker!!( i actually hate the new upcoming moto model designs)
if it's below $300 i would go for it straight up!

This is part of the reason why I would not go from MXPE to X4. Graphical performance is important to me, and the Adreno 508 in the X4 is not very impressive. If you check out the offscreen scores where both devices are rending at the same resolution. Onscreen the MXPE runs at 1440p and the X4 at 1080p, so the X4 isn't rendering as many pixels and still can't beat the pure by more than a few FPS at best.
https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?be...=Qualcomm+Adreno+(TM)+418&D2=Motorola+Moto+X4

That 5.2" display is kind of meh to me. I think anything smaller than 5.5" or so would be hard to get used to after using this 5.7" one for a couple of years.

jason2678 said:
That 5.2" display is kind of meh to me. I think anything smaller than 5.5" or so would be hard to get used to after using this 5.7" one for a couple of years.
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It's not... First few days felt odd, but within a week using the big screen seemed awkward after using a G5+.