[Q] Screen replacement costs for Moto G4 Plus - Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers

Hi everyone
My Moto G4 Plus fell down recently and cracked the screen. Any idea on how much the replacement costs for the screen would be?
Thanks in advance

If you're in India, going by the listed price for last year's Moto G 3's listings for ONLY the GLASS screen is about ?1200-1400 on average across most online sellers. However if the damage is more extensive, and you'd need the replace the digitizer as well, most listings suggest about ?2000-2500 which mention LCD+digitizer assembly.
Given moto g4 got launched only a few months ago, you would have it under warranty. At one time Moto had officially offered a one time free replacement for its entire E, G and X range in a few markers, probably two years ago. But not sure if your specific purchase entitles you to damage protection, considering there is no such announcement in Indian market atleast.
Going by my own experience with a broken screen iPhone some years back, I'd suggest getting repair and replacement done through only the manufacturer, the only expense should be the replacement screen, warrant would entitle you to free service. In my case I'd tried saving on Apple's expensive spares and service, and ended up with a dead screen as the generic substitute was not capable of sealing the display as needed.
Here's a really helpful explanation about the three display components found on LCD touchscreen phones from an old iPhone forum, which helped me establish what was actually broken on my iPhone:
The screen is the glass on the front of the iPhone that you touch. It has the opening of the ear speaker at the top, and the opening for the home button at the bottom. It is real glass, is what usually cracks when you drop an iPhone. It looks like the entire front of an iPhone. It is just over half a millimeter (0.6 - 0.7 mm) thick clear glass with the top and bottom areas painted black.
The next layer is a thick layer of adhesive which bonds the front glass to the digitizer.
The digitizer is glass and interprets your finger touch movements so you can use the iPhone. The digitizer is just a bit larger in area than the picture size, you see when you use the iPhone.?*
The third component going in, is the LCD which is the video display screen, this displays the picture you see. The LCD size is nearly the size of the picture you see.
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i enquired a local repair shop. He quoted me @ 40 for display.

in aliexpress you can found the display+digitizer for 50 USD... and there are a lot of tutorials on youtube to change the display...
with the moto G3 it was expensive and hard because the display was stick to the rest of the phone with a lot of glue.... this is not the case with the moto g4

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Cracked screen replacement.

I have the LG Nexus 4 and my screen was cracked recently. I dropped it while jogging. The screen still turns on and the touchscreen works (only where there are not any cracks), so everything appears to be working still. I have been shopping around for screen replacements but there are so many options and the prices vary so much that I am not sure which to buy. I am looking for the cheapest option of course. I do not mind replacing the screen on my own. I have found prices ranging from $30 to $300. Most are in the $100 range.
I watched a video on youtube on replacing it and they showed the replacing of the front of the phone. Is that what I need? The entire front end of the phone (screen and digitizer) or is there a cheap way of replacing the glass only? If you could, could you please reply to this with any feedback/tips and perhaps links to some good replacements from reputable only companies? I would appreciate it.
Here are a couple that I found, though I do not know if this would be enough.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-Nexus-4-...er-Glass-Cover-Black-/231006405500#vi-content
This is for the glass screen only.
http://www.ecrater.com/p/18465726/lg-google-nexus-4-e960-cellphone?gps=1&id=55138122859
http://www.strivemobile.com/lg-nexu...-replacement?gclid=COjovaz_2LkCFUyY4AodwBQAQA
Since you have seen and maybe researched many screens, can you please tell me which ones the most non reflective, yet budget friendly?
The biggest problem I face is that my screen is too reflective and seeing things in harsh sunlight is almost impossible with screen gamma / color /whatever it is tuning
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The easier method is to replace the whole front panel which is also the most expensive. If you're thinking about replacing the glass only, you'd require to heat the glass from the display just to remove it because the whole thing is bonded by glue. Furthermore, I'm not sure myself whether the glass that they sell has it's digitizer with it because if I'm not mistaken, N4's glass is fused with the digitizer with (the zero-gap thing). I personally recommend replacing the whole front panel since it's way easier.

[With pics] How to replace only the glass (not the whole "LCD") on a Galaxy S3!

[With pics] How to replace only the glass (not the whole "LCD") on a Galaxy S3!
You don't.
Although it is entirely possible, the chance of failure if done by people with absolutely no experience with mobile phone repairs is very high.
If you've broken the screen on your Samsung Galaxy S3 and have considered replacing the screen by yourself because your local mobile phone repair shops charge a hefty price for the repair, you should reconsider. You may have seen videos like the following that make it seem it is very easy to replace the glass only:
(skip to 3:00 in this one)
Maybe it seemed too easy. That's because it was too easy. Chances are those screens have already been replaced before by a third party who has access to professional equipment and skills. Possibly the screen has been broken more than once?
Even if you do successfully replace the glass only, it is guaranteed that you will get scratches, dust, fingerprints and adhesive marks on the Super AMOLED panel, no matter how much you clean it. That's because you won't be doing the repair with gloves on in a clean room free of dust. And that's not all - after a few weeks or months of use, dust will somehow find a way to get in between the glass and SAMOLED+ panel because you didn't use machine-cut adhesive that adheres your glass perfectly, leaving no gap for dust to get in. Your screen's touch sensitivity will drop as well, since it's not making adequate contact with the digitizer. And on top of that, the visibility will also drop.
Those problems don't show up on camera, and can easily be masked/hidden from the camera, too.
If this is only your first time breaking the screen on your S3, those tutorials won't work for you because your screen was manufactured as one whole piece by Samsung. The glass on your phone won't fall out by itself because the whole glass is optically laminated to the SAMOLED+ panel using a Liquid Optically Clear Adhesive, or LOCA for short. This kind of adhesive is a little bit sensitive to heat, but can't be completely removed because it is cured using UV light, not heat.
Optical lamination is a manufacturing process employed in more high end mobile devices that eliminate the air gap usually present between the display panel (usually either LCD or AMOLED) and the glass digitizer panel on top. Phones such as the Samsung Galaxy S3, S4, Note 2 and Note 3, iPhone 4/4S/5/5S/5C, HTC One X, One, Butterfly, Droid DNA, LG Nexus 4, Nexus 5, Sony Xperia Z, Z1, Z Ultra etc. have displays that are optically laminated. Optical lamination has a number of advantages:
Visibility is increased (especially under sunlight), since there aren't multiple layers reflecting ambient light creating optical interference
Screen clarity is increased, since optical lamination makes the display look like it is on top of the glass as opposed to being under it
It is impossible for debris like dirt and dust to get trapped in the air gap between the display and glass, because that gap is filled with LOCA
Higher contrast ratio, because there's less light reflecting off the parts of the screen that aren't emitting light
But the biggest disadvantage is the increased cost of repair. That's what you have to pay for all those aforementioned advantages. It also certainly doesn't help that the screens are getting thinner and thinner every year. The likelihood of breaking the screen increases every year too.
Here's a little photo album that I'd like to share with everyone documenting my experiences trying to remove the glass from full original Samsung screens that haven't been replaced or tampered with before. Click to enlarge.
This is a picture of the Black Samsung Galaxy S3 GT-i9300. Only the glass was broken, so I attempted to separate it from the AMOLED panel using a heat gun and some plastic pry tools. So far so good, until the AMOLED panel broke because it is optically bonded to the glass and also stuck to the frame underneath it. You can still see some LOCA on the AMOLED panel and glass.
Second is the Galaxy S4 GT-i9505. It was broken on the top half, so I started removing the glass from the bottom. Again, the LOCA wasn't very cooperative, staying quite solid throughout the removal. Eventually, the S4's AMOLED panel broke too.
It didn't look like the broken original Samsung screens wanted to be separated, so I moved on to fully intact screens.
It was a pain trying to separate this one. The adhesive was very difficult to remove, and the screen's touch digitizer circuit and polarizer started to separate from the AMOLED panel. As you can see, the glass came off intact, but the AMOLED underneath was completely destroyed.
It doesn't look like the digitizer circuit/polarizer is bonded to the AMOLED. It just gets sandwiched on top, so it is very easy to unintentionally separate it from the AMOLED instead of leaving it on and only removing the glass, especially if the glass is smashed into a thousand fragments. The glass was in one piece though, and you can see how that turned out.
This is a good representation of what the AMOLED sandwich consists of. From top to bottom:
Gorilla Glass
Touch digitizer circuit/polarizer (you can see the rest of the glass is a lot darker than the top left corner where polarizer was removed)
AMOLED panel (it looks very reflective without the polarizer on top of it)
Midframe
Some of the AMOLED panel itself came off and was still stuck to the glass!
You can see how thin and fragile the AMOLED panel is on the Samsung Galaxy S series phones. Sure, it's thin, but is it worth it? The panel has to be supported by the frame and the glass to stay intact. The panel on the S4 has a slimmed down bezel and was made thinner again, so it's a lot easier to break the AMOLED on the S4 than it is on the S3.
Ugh, don't even get me started with the iPhone 5 screen. LCDs are more robust than AMOLEDS but still...so much LOCA...so much glass...
Sure, these glass panels can be had for about $10, but is it worth all the effort to end up with a screen full of dust and fingerprints, has a warped frame and will eventually come loose and fall off, or simply just to destroy the AMOLED panel then spending extra money on a whole display assembly? Reapplying the glass leaving no gaps for dust to get in requires adhesive that is machine-cut perfectly for your frame.
Edit: Even then, you still don't have any LOCA or the necessary facilities to fill that air gap. (Thanks to @KrzychuG !)
Do you have what it takes?
Sorry for such a long post. I'm spending my time, efforts and money so you don't have to. I will occasionally add to this thread when I get more screens to experiment with.
This is a good video on how these screens can be separated and replaced with a perfect bubble-free and dust-free finish:
Most of the time its a better idea to just buy an entire replacement. I've replaced glass on nexus 7's and Galaxy Note2's a few times. it's not fun to replace glass or lamination, and it's just a whole lot easier to purchase a "parts" phone with a working display from ebay and swap out boards. Glass is one of my least favorite things to play with.
vantt1 said:
This is a good video on how these screens can be separated and replaced with a perfect bubble-free and dust-free finish:
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Awesome dude! thanks alot for the tutorial, but i dont think people have industrial size vacuums in their house, lol,
Thank you so much, this is very helpful!
Can I ask how you got the information? That would be very useful to do further research about other devices
Thanks again!
I will never, ever separate the glass and the screen. I know that it will break for sure. When I replace phone glass, I replace the entire front screen assembly which includes the glass, screen, and any frame to attach it into the phone. Even if it's just the glass that's broken and the LCD still works, still replace the entire front assembly.
Pizza_Dox said:
Awesome dude! thanks alot for the tutorial, but i dont think people have industrial size vacuums in their house, lol,
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I think the point is that unless you have all this stuff you shouldn't be even attempting to replace the glass.
i have tried this multiple times and all i can say is for anyone at home wihtout the professional equipment your not gonna get anywhere.. this isnt like and iPhone 3G/S where you take the screen off and seperate the LCD from the digitizer with a heatgun or hairdryer, ive tried all possible ways an failed every single time, either broken AMOLED or in some cases half the AMOLED comes off with the adheasive...
just save your money and buy the digitizer with the AMOLED attached..
HankChill said:
I will never, ever separate the glass and the screen. I know that it will break for sure. When I replace phone glass, I replace the entire front screen assembly which includes the glass, screen, and any frame to attach it into the phone. Even if it's just the glass that's broken and the LCD still works, still replace the entire front assembly.
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but what will you do with the old screen with the broken front glass ?
andr3wchong said:
but what will you do with the old screen with the broken front glass ?
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Chuck it
I have replaced many screens, and in my experience, you're always best buying everything as readily assembled as possible. Out of 5 attempts at separating the S3 Glass from the AMOLED panel, I have managed it twice without breaking the AMOLED, and that involves also keeping the digitser intact as well, which is between the outer glass and the AMOLED.
Back when I was doing this, you were looking at £175+ for the complete assembly, so to some people, £20 at a risk was worth it if I could manage it. Now though they're cheap enough to replace the whole lot without the worry.
There is an app on Play Store called ifixit which gives pretty detailed step-by-step instructions for most DIY teardowns and fixes for phones, tablets, consoles and even some household applicances, and they have a website too. Unfortunately, it's only experience (and expense) that make you realise that just because they make it look doable, it doesn't mean everyone can do it easily. There are many, many pitfalls that you will only discover yourself when you take on these DIY repairs, to the point where I don't do them all that often anymore, just because it's too stressful and costly if it goes wrong. My first iPhone 4 (am I allowed to say that here? ) screen replacement took me 3 hours just because of how careful I was. Now I can do it in 20 minutes, just because of experience. But even then you can be plagued with problems for no apparent reason. If you don't handle stress well, my best advice is to leave it to the experts
matmaneyre said:
I have replaced many screens, and in my experience, you're always best buying everything as readily assembled as possible. Out of 5 attempts at separating the S3 Glass from the AMOLED panel, I have managed it twice without breaking the AMOLED, and that involves also keeping the digitser intact as well, which is between the outer glass and the AMOLED.
Back when I was doing this, you were looking at £175+ for the complete assembly, so to some people, £20 at a risk was worth it if I could manage it. Now though they're cheap enough to replace the whole lot without the worry.
There is an app on Play Store called ifixit which gives pretty detailed step-by-step instructions for most DIY teardowns and fixes for phones, tablets, consoles and even some household applicances, and they have a website too. Unfortunately, it's only experience (and expense) that make you realise that just because they make it look doable, it doesn't mean everyone can do it easily. There are many, many pitfalls that you will only discover yourself when you take on these DIY repairs, to the point where I don't do them all that often anymore, just because it's too stressful and costly if it goes wrong. My first iPhone 4 (am I allowed to say that here? ) screen replacement took me 3 hours just because of how careful I was. Now I can do it in 20 minutes, just because of experience. But even then you can be plagued with problems for no apparent reason. If you don't handle stress well, my best advice is to leave it to the experts
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you musty be really good out of i think 7 possible 8, i have managed to seperate once, but still i scratched the AMOLED...
ricky310711 said:
you musty be really good out of i think 7 possible 8, i have managed to seperate once, but still i scratched the AMOLED...
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It never feels like I'm very good when I see the screen go though. Just that sick feeling :/
Saying that as well, I gave the phones back to whoever they belonged to when they were done. There's nothing to say that a couple of weeks/months down the line they faced the problems of dust under the glass, touchscreen sensitivity reduced etc. They were just happy to get them back 'looking' perfect.
Never again
matmaneyre said:
It never feels like I'm very good when I see the screen go though. Just that sick feeling :/
Saying that as well, I gave the phones back to whoever they belonged to when they were done. There's nothing to say that a couple of weeks/months down the line they faced the problems of dust under the glass, touchscreen sensitivity reduced etc. They were just happy to get them back 'looking' perfect.
Never again
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your right, quallity also plays a BIG part aswell, like you said never know what could happen, but better brands generally have better touch respones and just generally more smoothe, i knew someone who had just got the digitizer replaced by a phone repair shop, they couldnt use their phone in the wind thats how bad the replacement was..
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thank you, says my sii p
you saved a sii today, i'm using my phone without screen protection so it gets scratches after long times and i said to myself that's ok, i will replace the gorilla glass. that would be open the phone replace it then close it and i will have a new sii p again but sounds it's not that easy.
Very interesting thread.
I must be lucky,as on several occasions with most phones I have owned (HTC Desire hd, HTC One X, HTC One,Nexus 5, Samsung Note 3) I have accidentally dropped my phone. I've never had a case on and have on some occasions been unlucky to have the phone land on the screen, it has happened indoors and outdoors, on concrete and tarmac, despite this I haven't ever broken the glass.
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HankChill said:
Chuck it
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I wouldn't follow the advice to "Chuck it". We purchase these cracked glass assemblies as long as the touch screen and LCD still work fine. We can pay up to $100 PER screen, depending on the model. PM us for prices for bulk orders.
I very recently bought myself an used Galaxy S3 and to my great disappointment the glass has no scratches because it has been replaced. Now I got ****ty touchscreen response and already dust is gathering between the digitizer and the glass. I might try to sell it off and buy myself another one, this time checking very carefully that everything is in perfect working condition!
So much for thinking I had found a bargain for this fantastic phone (which, despite the problems, is a nice upgrade from my Galaxy Ace!)
MobileEMT said:
I wouldn't follow the advice to "Chuck it". We purchase these cracked glass assemblies as long as the touch screen and LCD still work fine. We can pay up to $100 PER screen, depending on the model. PM us for prices for bulk orders.
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Really? I have a crapload
ricky310711 said:
Really? I have a crapload
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Good to hear! We'll PM you. Feel free to contact us if you would like to sell or refurbish them.

Cracked my Nexus 6p screen. Any experience with those who replaced it?

How can I tell that the screen the third party repair center is using is Gorilla 4?
Where can I buy online genuine screen? And is it true as I read online that since all device parts need to be removed to reach the screen it will be impossible not to have after repair marks or dents?
Thanks in advance.
Hello,
virtually impossible to take phone apart without the right tools and damaging the black glass camera lens.
I purchased a screen and rear battery cover (which came with the black glass lens cover and the strip at the bottom on the back. The screen was around €50 and the back cover around €20. Also, you should purchase a screen separator like this: http://www.ebay.fr/itm/LCD-Screen-R...t-Tool-Manual-Sucker-Separator-/141888803105? as it is very difficult to get the screen out.
If you are careful, it is not such a a difficult job, and I would say to ask the seller about whether or not is is Gorilla 4. Personally, I user good glass screen prtoectors, and seeing how breakable the gorilla 4 is, I'm not too worried about ensuring it is 100% original Gorilla 4 - I am am happy with the result: I bought a broken 2 month old Nexus 6p 128GB silver and have fixed it all for about €300.
I got mine properly repaired through Huawei who directed me to an approved repair centre. Paid £130 but it's all official Huawei parts, and I think the repair comes with a warranty.
Edit: I should probably mention that even this official repair scuffed the aluminium and slightly bent the bezel where the guy tried to take the old screen out
Thanks

Does the digitizer break with the glass?

Hi all,
Prospective 6P owner here. I've a question for those of you that have broken the glass on your 6P.
Regrettably, I've ended up dropping and breaking the last two types of phones I've owned—OnePlus One followed by Moto X Pure. Even more regrettably, both of their displays were designed such that the digitizer breaks with the glass, so broken phone = no more touch input. I think may head my explode if I continue blundering my way around my phone with volume switch control and google now, so I am motivated to purchase a phone that still works when the glass is broken.
Does the 6P fit the bill?
Thanks—
No. When my glass cracked the display wouldn't even turn on. Might be different for others as it wasn't the smallest of impacts
It all depends on impact? Watch youtube drop test video of 6p against iphone, 6p gets smashed touchscreen still works, but it can go either way. I think its the same with all modern smartphones due to the way they are built. If you keep braking your screens just buy a case and tempered glass protector...
It depends on the degree & point of impact
I've dropped the phone several times and only had a cracked screen once. Everytime I dropped it there was a Tempered Glass on it and the Tempered Glass cracked.
The one time I cracked the screen, the phone fell down screen first while I was taking it out of my pocket. So about a 3.5ft drop. This time the point of impact was on the edge of the lower speaker grill. The phone fell on the road with a bit of gravel. I reckon it was a piece of gravel that had the direct impact on the screen. The touchscreen was working perfectly & I used it for a couple of days before I gave it for repairs.
In any case, the service center replaces the entire display panel, even if the screen is working properly.
I'd recommend investing in an insurance. In India, insurance costs INR 3,000 (approx $45) & the screen replacement costs INR 14,380 (approx $212).
All the best!

Cracked screen replacement recommendations

Unfortunately my G5 Plus had a little accident this weekend and now the front glass is cracked. As far as I can tell the phone is still fully functional and screen touch responsiveness seems good despite the cracks.
I see replacement LCD screen plus digitizer units available on ebay and other sources online, I was wondering if anyone had any good recommendations and any replacement tips after having gone through the process themselves. Thanks.
I would suggest do it from an authorised service centre even if you have to pay twice the price. I've had experience where I tried to search a replacement for cheap (which it was) and was disappointed with the quality, the screen wasn't as sturdy as the original one and cracked within a week. So it makes sense of your phone is new and. Want to make it work for atleast a year more.
Apply some pieces of single side tape on the crack screen, to prevent shatter glass injury, and heat up the new screen for a while after you finish the replacement, that could help to make the screen adhere to the frame tightly. I will recommend witrigs, they sell original screen and also adhesive and tools.
Good luck.
These are very hard for the average person to do themselves. Everything is glued together, and just a hair dryer or heat gun doesn't do it, without great care. I'm 50/50 on droid turbos, and after searching on line, these are slightly harder to do than that series.

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