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Just to stop the confusion and back and forth about this topic.
LG has confirmed that, yes, the G4 does support Quick Charge 2.0. The company tells Pocketnow that while it didn’t set out with plans to support the feature, the inclusion of Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 808 processor in the G4 means that the phone does technically support it. The bad news is that the G4’s in-box wall charger doesn’t support Quick Charge 2.0, so you’re going to need a new wall wart — such as the Motorola Turbo Charger — if you want to juice up your G4 in a hurry.
Here's the Link:
http://androidandme.com/2015/05/news/lg-g4-does-support-qualcomms-quick-charge-2-0-technology/
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Ok thanks for the confirmation.....
Are there many manufacturers which provides the 2.0 charger with the device?
Yeah the issue was it out of the box it has neither.
To wireless charge you need a case or a sticker. To fast charge you need to buy your own charger. So when a reviewer gets the phone out of the box neither of these are available and that's where the confusion came from. Good conformation nevertheless.
I'm glad there's a thread about it, hopefully it doesn't drive the price higher on the device once officially released They are competing to get Samsung and Apple users for the most part. All these favorable reviews and positive feedback Internet Wide should do the trick.
Honestly I was aiming towards the Galaxy S6 myself but am glad I held off until the G4 was officially out. Unless there's a serious problem with the the device I am 99.9% sure that this will be my next smartphone.
Even current Galaxy S6 users are looking at the G4 and that is saying a lot.
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Just to stop the confusion and back and forth about this topic.
LG has confirmed that, yes, the G4 does support Quick Charge 2.0. The company tells Pocketnow that while it didn’t set out with plans to support the feature, the inclusion of Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 808 processor in the G4 means that the phone does technically support it. The bad news is that the G4’s in-box wall charger doesn’t support Quick Charge 2.0, so you’re going to need a new wall wart — such as the Motorola Turbo Charger — if you want to juice up your G4 in a hurry.
Here's the Link:
http://androidandme.com/2015/05/news/lg-g4-does-support-qualcomms-quick-charge-2-0-technology/
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Yeah but the weird thing is I have the nexus 2.0 charger and even with that it doesn't quick charge like my nexus.
I am thinking it will be a software update with changes to the kernel.
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Yeah but the weird thing is I have the nexus 2.0 charger and even with that it doesn't quick charge like my nexus.
I am thinking it will be a software update with changes to the kernel.
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Its possible, that reviewer on the video Ive posted could have already updated the software. Do you have another quick charge cable you can try it on, maybe a Samsung one?
LG was surprised themselves its working on their units.
"LG has confirmed that, yes, the G4 does support Quick Charge 2.0. The company tells Pocketnow that while it didn’t set out with plans to support the feature, the inclusion of Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 808 processor in the G4 means that the phone does technically support it."
I read that LG said that Quick Charge will be enabled in the software the G4 is officially released with. Since the reviewers have pre-release software they don't have it.
The Android Central podcast said they tried the Motorola Turbo Charger with the G4, but the phone said an unknown charger was connected and to charge at full speed use the LG charger.
So can someone provide a link to turbo chargers or manufacturer and model of charges that support this?
The reason why i assume is that the Kernel doesn't have the feature integrated yet or it isn't enabled
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.method private setQuickCharging(I)V
is in com.lge.services.jar.out\smali\com\android\server\power\PowerManagerServiceEx.smali which i found when comparing the G4 with the G3 frameworks, it is located on line 3100 if you wan't to check it out, however i ain't sure if this is somehow "disabeld" or if it just lies there and waiting for it to be enabled.
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So can someone provide a link to turbo chargers or manufacturer and model of charges that support this?
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Here ya go. Several including car chargers on Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Quick-Charge-Certified-Watt-Charger/dp/B00QFVRV1O
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00P9UILUM/ref=pd_aw_sim_107_1?refRID=13PDYX9KCCQVK1NCH6ZB
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The reason why i assume is that the Kernel doesn't have the feature integrated yet or it isn't enabled
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.method private setQuickCharging(I)V
is in com.lge.services.jar.out\smali\com\android\server\power\PowerManagerServiceEx.smali which i found when comparing the G4 with the G3 frameworks, it is located on line 3100 if you wan't to check it out, however i ain't sure if this is somehow "disabeld" or if it just lies there and waiting for it to be enabled.
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So can we all agree - at least in USA - that QC is not actually turned on yet. I kind of thought it would be on, since the acknowledged the chip/phone was capable, but we need to buy our own adaptors. Well, I bought a few QC 2.0 plugs, but I'd say they are doing nothing (I have never had QC 2.0 so not entirely sure what to look for other than "faster" charging - which does not seem to happen). Apparently they acknowledged too late in the shipping cycle to actually update the device to accept QC 2.0. BTW, I have seen companies, even in the ship cycle, send an update to devices so when you got them, they updated when started up.
I've been using my 2.0 charger that I bought from amazon for my Z3 and it is indeed working. phone charges at slightly faster than a percentage point a minute.
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So can we all agree - at least in USA - that QC is not actually turned on yet. I kind of thought it would be on, since the acknowledged the chip/phone was capable, but we need to buy our own adaptors. Well, I bought a few QC 2.0 plugs, but I'd say they are doing nothing (I have never had QC 2.0 so not entirely sure what to look for other than "faster" charging - which does not seem to happen). Apparently they acknowledged too late in the shipping cycle to actually update the device to accept QC 2.0. BTW, I have seen companies, even in the ship cycle, send an update to devices so when you got them, they updated when started up.
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Yup its just not active. And the new M feature doze. is a joke its in the framework of Android 5.0 of both G3 and G4 not sure if active though
So.. I'm confused. I got the phone last night and it took like 9 hours to fully charge to 100%.
I don't get my QC 2.0 charger until next week, but ... is it confirmed that it isn't activated?
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So.. I'm confused. I got the phone last night and it took like 9 hours to fully charge to 100%.
I don't get my QC 2.0 charger until next week, but ... is it confirmed that it isn't activated?
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No simply that the phone's chip supports it but you need the proper charger for it.
It shouldn't take 9 hours even with the out of the box charger, more like 2 hours maximum.
The European H815 will charge at 9V, but the LG G4 draws nothing like the current which other Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 devices do.
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No simply that the phone's chip supports it but you need the proper charger for it.
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Phew. Okay, I ordered the AUKEY 2.0 QC charger from Amazon.
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It shouldn't take 9 hours even with the out of the box charger, more like 2 hours maximum.
The European H815 will charge at 9V, but the LG G4 draws nothing like the current which other Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 devices do.
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I'm reading from other threads that it's normal to have slow charges the first few times..
Is this not accurate? That was literally my first charge.
No phone I have ever owned has charged slowly the first few times.
If you are using the stock cable/charger something is either faulty or they just didn't handshake together properly. I have had that happen a few times, not regularly though.
Like I say using the standard charger it should take around 120mins, you will only save 20mins or so at the moment by using an Aukey charger.
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Like I say using the standard charger it should take around 120mins, you will only save 20mins or so at the moment by using an Aukey charger.
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Thanks for the information. Is it safe to assume that this is just a guess or an estimate, since you haven't actually used a QC 2.0 charger on the G4? Or is this proven by your device?
The only reason why I question is because there are a lot of G4 users on QC 2.0 chargers who are stating that they are having great experience with their charge times in comparison to the stock charger.
By stating that it's a 100 min with a QC 2.0 vs 120 min with a 1.8V charger, you're not talking about much of a difference.
Hey everyone, The OPT charger is around 10W (5A x 2V) while the Nexus 6P charger is 25W. Both devices have the same Snapdragon 810 chipset and they both use USB Type-C. Is it possible to get the Quick Charge functionality from the 6P (0 to 100% in around 90 minutes) to the OnePlus 2?
Thanks in advance
No, op2 doesn't have quickcharge built in. You might break your battery.
Energy don't work that way.
Think of your opt charge circuit as if it is a water hose, battery is a little container, charger is the big container.
It doesn't matter how big is the charger container the hose will take the same time to fill the small container.
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fburgos said:
Energy don't work that way.
Think of your opt charge circuit as if it is a water hose, battery is a little container, charger is the big container.
It doesn't matter how big is the charger container the hose will take the same time to fill the small container.
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Couldn't have said it better myself
Quick charge is a built in feature which is not included in op2. So it's not possible to charge it that way.
I believe the snapdragon 810 supports quick charge, however, the OP2 designers chose not to implement it, probably due to the increase in cost associated with upgraded current handling for some parts, but that's a guess on my part.
There's usually no problem with using a larger capacity charger with your phone because they're almost always self regulating. However, it will probably not accelerate charging unless the device supports it.
No it doesn't support it.
My OP2 charges in 1hr50mins to full.. I am satisfied with it.
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Hey everyone, The OPT charger is around 10W (5A x 2V) while the Nexus 6P charger is 25W. Both devices have the same Snapdragon 810 chipset and they both use USB Type-C. Is it possible to get the Quick Charge functionality from the 6P (0 to 100% in around 90 minutes) to the OnePlus 2?
Thanks in advance
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The nexus devices don't quick charge, they however charge quickly (called fast charging) with the new type C connection via a 15w 5v/3a charger. It's a non proprietary open standard and not a Qualcomm certified type of deal. The question is legit, you could be able to get a quicker charge with the nexus charger.
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The nexus devices don't quick charge, they however charge quickly (called fast charging) with the new type C connection via a 15w 5v/3a charger. It's a non proprietary open standard and not a Qualcomm certified type of deal. The question is legit, you could be able to get a quicker charge with the nexus charger.
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Yes I know that they don't use Qualcomm Quick Charge but some fast charging that's possible because of USB Type C. So that's why I asked if the OnePlus 2 could also use the ''Fast Charging'' capability from the 6P
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Yes I know that they don't use Qualcomm Quick Charge but some fast charging that's possible because of USB Type C. So that's why I asked if the OnePlus 2 could also use the ''Fast Charging'' capability from the 6P
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Right, I'm supporting your question as it seems everyone else doesn't seem to understand that....
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Right, I'm supporting your question as it seems everyone else doesn't seem to understand that....
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Well maybe I should grab a 6P charger and test it
Quick charge/fast charge whatever you want to call it won't work, opt circuit/controller is designed for 1A current, it won't demand any more than that.
You can have a custom kernel that tells the controller to not "shutdown" with more than 1A but is your risk and probably won't speed up the charging process by much.
Opt charger is 2A and should be enough to test a kennel tweak, again changing just the charger won't work.
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I wonder if it is possible to some how forcefully enable quick charging somehow.
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Quick charge/fast charge whatever you want to call it won't work, opt circuit/controller is designed for 1A current, it won't demand any more than that.
You can have a custom kernel that tells the controller to not "shutdown" with more than 1A but is your risk and probably won't speed up the charging process by much.
Opt charger is 2A and should be enough to test a kennel tweak, again changing just the charger won't work.
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How is OPT circuit designed for 1A?? then why would they make a 2A charger, that makes no sense.
Fast charging on nexus devices is a capability of usb-c, not snapdragon quickcharge.
So I think we need to reevaluate this..
Somebody needs to test with a 3A nexus charger and run ampere.
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I might be wrong in something.
I used ampere to "measure" the current always tops at 1090mA but with screen on, which also drains juice from charger.
Any way you need a custom kernel like boeffla to change the mA to charge I remember it tops at 2200mA
But a 3A charger like nexus will only supply what the device is demanding (2200 mA)
Fast charging on nexus it's a feature of charger and charger circuit, remember to have a puppies a ***** (female dog) needs to mate with a dog not a cat. You might force different species they could mate but won't breed.
You need any race of dog to have puppies.
The same you need any brand of 5V/3A charger for a nexus and you will have fast charge.
Opt don't have fast charge won't harm to try but don't buy the charger just to test borrow someone's
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Opt supports 5v 2amp charging on screen off.
Quick charge (Qualcomm quick charge®) is achieved raising voltage and not amperage (up to 20 volts, in qc3) and should be both hardware-supported and software-enabled since is the phone that asks the charger for a specific power level (volts-amps couple).
The real question is: is qc hardware supported on opt, and, if yes, could it be software enabled in some way in a custom kernel or so?
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Hey everyone, The OPT charger is around 10W (5A x 2V) while the Nexus 6P charger is 25W. Both devices have the same Snapdragon 810 chipset and they both use USB Type-C. Is it possible to get the Quick Charge functionality from the 6P (0 to 100% in around 90 minutes) to the OnePlus 2?
Thanks in advance
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You might blast your USB port if you are overcharging more than 2A.
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You might blast your USB port if you are overcharging more than 2A.
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thanks God someone replied, it's a shame that this does not contribute to the discussion in any way
I found an article that says that you need Qualcomm PMI8994 Power Management IC and SMB1351 (as well as snap 810 SoC) to get quick charge working... I can find the first in many teardown but I can't find the second, any idea? Maybe it has been replaced by another component or is it missing at all?
krishna442 said:
My OP2 charges in 1hr50mins to full.. I am satisfied with it.
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just 1hr 50 mins???.For me it is around 3 hrs to charge from 0 to 100%
Hi
I am planning to buy this phone.
Can anybody confirm if faster charging is possible with a 2A non stock charger? How much time does it take to reach 100 percent?
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The phone doesn't have fast charge
For me, it takes 1h 30m to charge from 0% to 100%
Johnny TDN said:
The phone doesn't have fast charge
For me, it takes 1h 30m to charge from 0% to 100%
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Absolutely correct, the phone doesn't have FAST/QUICK charger technology...
However a higher ampere charger like 2A could still charge a phone faster, hence my query above
Are you sure it takes 90 minutes to fully charge with stock 1A charger as mathematically it's not possible
3000mAH/1000mA=3 hours
Or
3000mAH/1.5H=2000mA or 2A
Pehaps you are using a higher capacity charger? That would explain it...
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The time of charging with 2A is the same using a original charger with 1A. The limit is inside at the circuit control of charge.
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The time of charging with 2A is the same using a original charger with 1A. The limit is inside at the circuit control of charge.
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Thanks
This is the 3rd comment I have seen from a user confirming 1A is the max phone can utilise
Such a shame as I think this is the only real flaw with this phone, otherwise it's a great device...
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Yes, you have right.
We can put a 10 A capability charger at our device, but charge control circuit is doing his job and let device charging with 1 A max, even if is there 10 A disposable....
Maybe with some command in hidden menu or with some customized firmware is a way to override this limitation.
(At LG 4X HD is in hidden menu a command that enable fast charging).
Where exactly does one have to change what in the root directory?
I want to test this time.
Senaxo said:
Where exactly does one have to change what in the root directory?
I want to test this time.
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I doubt we will be able to find any such software hack to allow fast charging.
There just isn't enough development going on for this phone for anyone to discover and share such information
https://www.androidpit.com/huawei-p9-lite-review
Above review was found by another user on this forum where it's mentioned that phone supports 10W (5V×2A)
So this is what I am hoping is correct and is verified by someone who owns the phone already
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That would be really very nice, I would be really happy ).
Maybe fast charge working with another type of charger: Huawei 9V2A Quick Charge Travel Charger
Instead of 5V1A(5W) or 5V2A(10W) with 9V2A(18W) charger, the charge circuit control will sense 9V instead of 5V and maybe switch to fast charge...
2 Amp charger are only needed if you are using a 2 or 3 meter USB wire.
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Maybe fast charge working with another type of charger: Huawei 9V2A Quick Charge Travel Charger
Instead of 5V1A(5W) or 5V2A(10W) with 9V2A(18W) charger, the charge circuit control will sense 9V instead of 5V and maybe switch to fast charge...
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I dont think so.... the options you mentioned actually mean QC 2.0 technology which we know for sure isn't available in P9 lite
There are few mentions of phone supporting 5Vx2A online; one such link shared by me in earlier post...
Read up on QC technology if you want to at below link
http://www.androidauthority.com/quick-charge-3-0-explained-643053/
Lieutenantdaan said:
I dont think so.... the options you mentioned actually mean QC 2.0 technology which we know for sure isn't available in P9 lite
There are few mentions of phone supporting 5Vx2A online; one such link shared by me in earlier post...
Read up on QC technology if you want to at below link
http://www.androidauthority.com/quick-charge-3-0-explained-643053/
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The P9 Lite doesnt support any sort of fast charging. The ability of a phone to charge faster depends on it's hardware and the use of a fast charger. However, with a 2A charger, it slightly decreases charging time since the phone pulls approximately 1050mA. Be careful not to use a charger thats higher than 5V as it will fry your circuitry.
LiaquateRahiman said:
The P9 Lite doesnt support any sort of fast charging. The ability of a phone to charge faster depends on it's hardware and the use of a fast charger. However, with a 2A charger, it slightly decreases charging time since the phone pulls approximately 1050mA. Be careful not to use a charger thats higher than 5V as it will fry your circuitry.
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Where did you get this 1050mA spec, did u measure it yourself? This could be true as well, as fast charging is not observed by anyone until now except few online sources which state otherwise...
The part about damaging phone is inaccurate as QC 2.0 or 3.0 chargers are reverse compatible with old devices which support 5V only, the phone and charger never switch to 9V/12V/20V mode as the technology isn't there...
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Where did you get this 1050mA spec, did u measure it yourself? This could be true as well, as fast charging is not observed by anyone until now except few online sources which state otherwise...
The part about damaging phone is inaccurate as QC 2.0 or 3.0 chargers are reverse compatible with old devices which support 5V only, the phone and charger never switch to 9V/12V/20V mode as the technology isn't there...
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I did measure it myself with the aid of a friend. By the way, I was referring to a standard 9V/12V charger, not the QC charger.
According to my knowledge, the voltage is like a gateway to your phone, your phone pulls the current. Hence, if you use a standard charger with higher than 5V, you'll most definitely burn your circuitry. BUT....if you use a 5V charger with an abnormally high amperage, the phone will only pull the current it needs.
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i did measure it myself with the aid of a friend. By the way, I was referring to a standard 9V/12V charger, not the QC charger.
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Great that you actually measured it, I am assuming using an external device...
That would confirm it without doubt that online reports are incorrect and phone can't charge above appx 1A
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Great that you actually measured it, I am assuming using an external device...
That would confirm it without doubt that online reports are incorrect and phone can't charge above appx 1A
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yes that is correct
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yes that is correct
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So just a quick question.
This means that for a phone to be able to pull 2A, is not just software control?
It means that the hardware has to support the ability?
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ivanwong1989 said:
So just a quick question.
This means that for a phone to be able to pull 2A, is not just software control?
It means that the hardware has to support the ability?
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I believe that is true. Although, most fast chargers (like the samsung one) only supply 1.67A at a higher voltage, normally 9V. This combination increases the output wattage of the charger....Like i said on my earlier post, the voltage is the gateway to the phone while the phone pulls the amperage.
So this is currently going on right now...
It's been going on for the past 2 hours, going from "only the original OEM Charger supports 3.0" to now "V20 isn't on the list of QC3.0 compatible devices"
I'm at lost.
for reference: http://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/quickcharge-3-0-6-chargers-v20-t3502207#post70053831
***UPDATE 11:20AM CST: It now goes to "It does come with the technology, but our software doesn't have it enabled."****
***UPDATE 11:51AM CST: A new agent stepped in and deflected question directly to LG support team****
My QC 3.0 car charger from Aukey, doesn't trigger on the V20 when using the QC 3.0 port. It does on the Pixel XL, but not the V20. I don't have another charger to test with though.
V20 doesn't have QC3 I'm pretty sure. I remember reading that it supported QC2, and some other blend of an LG tech. Honestly, QC2 is good enough for me.
I bought a 3.0 charger from Amazon and my V20 changes the indicator to green. Green is 3.0, blue is 2.0 or I guess even 1.0.
However as the phone gets to 80% iirc then the switches to blue.
So I'm guessing that 3.0 works.
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The V20 is literally the first phone listed under "Devices with QC 3.0" on Qualcomm's website.
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The V20 is literally the first phone listed under "Devices with QC 3.0" on Qualcomm's website.
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that's exactly what I pointed out.
Convo just ended, a new agent came in and they deflected my final question to LG directly.
I think they realized they're digging a deeper hole with the previous agent.
I have both a QC 3.0 & 2.0 charger. Each of them trigger quick charging according to the battery indicator showing a circle around the lightning bolt. No idea how to tell if it's ACTUALLY using QC 3.0 though, as the indicator looks the same when using both chargers.
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I have both a QC 3.0 & 2.0 charger. Each of them trigger quick charging according to the battery indicator showing a circle around the lightning bolt. No idea how to tell if it's ACTUALLY using QC 3.0 though, as the indicator looks the same when using both chargers.
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Yeah I know, would you do me a favor?
So far the only evidence I can find is through the Battery test app from the service mode.
*#546368#*918#
SVC Menu>Battery Test>Charging Test
Enable Log and check "Battery Log Save on/off"
it should show you the info regarding the charging status on the bottom, let me know what it says on "High Voltage TA Status".
Mine always says QC2.0 TA on all of my QC3 chargers.
baymon said:
Yeah I know, would you do me a favor?
So far the only evidence I can find is through the Battery test app from the service mode.
*#546368#*918#
SVC Menu>Battery Test>Charging Test
Enable Log and check "Battery Log Save on/off"
it should show you the info regarding the charging status on the bottom, let me know what it says on "High Voltage TA Status".
Mine always says QC2.0 TA on all of my QC3 chargers.
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I just checked. Confirmed QC 2.0 displayed but the charger indicates "green" which is QC 3.0.
That's great... I'm disappointed.
Edit: same thing with originally supplied cable and aftermarket ones.
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I just checked. Confirmed QC 2.0 displayed but the charger indicates "green" which is QC 3.0.
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It could be your hardware is correct, and the firmware has a bug.
Who needs 3.0 anyways? That will just fry your battery faster.
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Problem solved.....see this screen shot taken right from LG website.
Problem solved.....right from LG website.
shwnr11 said:
Problem solved.....right from LG website.
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Wow so they couldnt even give us the 3.0 charger block instead we gotta buy it after paying 700+ for a phone. Well I guess just add another con to this phone smh -_-
Bossmanwilson said:
Wow so they couldnt even give us the 3.0 instead we gotta buy after paying 800 for a phone.
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What?
Bossmanwilson said:
Wow so they couldnt even give us the 3.0 charger block instead we gotta buy it after paying 700+ for a phone. Well I guess just add another con to this phone smh -_-
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It's the exact same as the G5. It is bs you don't nickel and dime folks who pay a steep premium for your products.
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EROMITLAB said:
It's the exact same as the G5. It is bs you don't nickel and dime folks who pay a steep premium for your products.
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I'm confused, what's the problem here?
I have the LG G5 and the LG V20 and they both use my Qualcomm Quickcharge 3.0 charger and data plug and they both charge using 3.0, and judging by the speed at which it charges, it has to be 3.0
But I am still using the data sync cable and the charging block that came with my phone.
And I use the AUKey QC 3.0 Car adapter for it as well, and even that works great.
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So this is currently going on right now...
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I used to be a Ops Manager for an attorneys office which handled 3rd party collections, and I just had to say it was pretty impressive how you handled that conversation.. so good show old man lol. If I had to bet I'd say that you've probably had at least some collection experience, and if not then it might be something you'd want to look into because you've already got all of the basics down naturally (which even after training some people still aren't able to get down).
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I bought a car charger that has one 2.0 and one 3.0.
In the 2.0 I get quick charge no problem.
In the 3.0 I somehow got it to show quick charge once but don't know because I haven't been able to make it happen again.
This is using the cable that came with the phone.
BROKEN1981 said:
Who needs 3.0 anyways? That will just fry your battery faster.
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Not planning to use this phone for more than 2 years so that's not so much of a concern especially since it's removable. (actually, I'll be more surprised if it doesn't bootloop within 2 years...)
Once you've experience 3.0, you don't want to go back lol. On the Axon 7, it's BLAZING fast. Like ridiculous fast. I could go from 0-100 in less than an hour.
But the more pressing point was that I could still charge while screen was on, not so much on the V20.
Can i use a quallacom quick charge charger rated at [email protected] (i guess what turbo power gives is 9v at 1.67A)
P.s both give charging current of nearly 2500ma in ampere app,my original moto charger is not wrking and i am out of warranty
Yes I use my samsung charger (9v 2amp) on my G4 all the time shows as turbo charger when plugged in.
Yes, you can use a QC 1.0, 2.0, or 3.0 charger with this phone... although I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery. When you use a QC 1.0 or 2.0 charger, the phone has to step down to that version, which will still charge faster than a "standard" charger, but it will increase battery temperatures while charging significantly which over extended use can reduce the overall life and capacity of the battery.
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Yes, you can use a QC 1.0, 2.0, or 3.0 charger with this phone... although I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery. When you use a QC 1.0 or 2.0 charger, the phone has to step down to that version, which will still charge faster than a "standard" charger, but it will increase battery temperatures while charging significantly which over extended use can reduce the overall life and capacity of the battery.
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Its a charger designed for sd 625 based phone only
airafali said:
Its a charger designed for sd 625 based phone only
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What is?
I don't think you understand, there is no charger specifically for the SD625 or any other chipset... this is merely Qualcomm's Quick Charge technology, but Moto/Lenovo didn't want to pay the licensing/royalty or whatever else to call it that, so they call it TurboPower. I have a Qualcomm QC 2.0 adapter here at my desk and if I connect it, it clearly says "TurboPower Connected".
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What is?
I don't think you understand, there is no charger specifically for the SD625 or any other chipset... this is merely Qualcomm's Quick Charge technology, but Moto/Lenovo didn't want to pay the licensing/royalty or whatever else to call it that, so they call it TurboPower. I have a Qualcomm QC 2.0 adapter here at my desk and if I connect it, it clearly says "TurboPower Connected".
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By sd 625 i mean the quickcharge version which sd 625 supports by default...
airafali said:
By sd 625 i mean the quickcharge version which sd 625 supports by default...
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Again, I don't understand what you mean. The SD625 support Quick Charge 3.0, but the charger supplied with the device is a QC 2.0 compliant adapter that is labeled "TurboPower", at least in the US. If I connect a Samsung GS7 to the Moto charger, it shows Fast Charging as well.
I am not trying to be argumentative, but I don't understand what are you trying to say here.
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Yes, you can use a QC 1.0, 2.0, or 3.0 charger with this phone... although I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery. When you use a QC 1.0 or 2.0 charger, the phone has to step down to that version, which will still charge faster than a "standard" charger, but it will increase battery temperatures while charging significantly which over extended use can reduce the overall life and capacity of the battery.
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But Moto g5 plus doesn't support quick charge 3.0. I read somewhere that it supports only quick charge 2.0
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But Moto g5 plus doesn't support quick charge 3.0. I read somewhere that it supports only quick charge 2.0
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According to reputable reviews, it's Quick Charge 3.0:
https://www.androidcentral.com/moto-g5-plus
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/03/moto-g5-plus-android-smartphone-review.html
However, "officially" according to Lenovo, it supports Quick Charge 2.0 but even when asked directly they do not state that it does or does not support 3.0.
I have a USB diagnostic device but I don't know if that will tell me the answer, since I don't own a 3.0 capable charger currently.
acejavelin said:
According to reputable reviews, it's Quick Charge 3.0:
https://www.androidcentral.com/moto-g5-plus
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/03/moto-g5-plus-android-smartphone-review.html
However, "officially" according to Lenovo, it supports Quick Charge 2.0 but even when asked directly they do not state that it does or does not support 3.0.
I have a USB diagnostic device but I don't know if that will tell me the answer, since I don't own a 3.0 capable charger currently.
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I read this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/accessories/chargers-t3584554 Why doesn't Moto just tell us which charger should we use?
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I read this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/accessories/chargers-t3584554 Why doesn't Moto just tell us which charger should we use?
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Honestly? I'm guessing it's a royalty or licensing thing, they can't say "Quick Charge 3.0" because they didn't pay the fee.
Just my guess... I have nothing to back that up.
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Honestly? I'm guessing it's a royalty or licensing thing, they can't say "Quick Charge 3.0" because they didn't pay the fee.
Just my guess... I have nothing to back that up.
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Have you ever tried the Quick charge 3.0? Some users report that quick charge 3.0 doesn't work. I haven't tried it coz I don't have the QC 3.0 charger
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Have you ever tried the Quick charge 3.0? Some users report that quick charge 3.0 doesn't work. I haven't tried it coz I don't have the QC 3.0 charger
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Dude, don't double post. It's a waste of space, time, and creates pointless threads.
QC3 Chargers can use QC2 to charge devices. Whether or not the phone supports it is irrelevant.
Karlinski said:
Dude, don't double post. It's a waste of space, time, and creates pointless threads.
QC3 Chargers can use QC2 to charge devices. Whether or not the phone supports it is irrelevant.
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I'm just asking coz QC 2.0 charger is cheaper then QC 3.0 charger
And both will work fine. A 8 second Google search will tell you this. Try looking before asking!
Karlinski said:
And both will work fine. A 8 second Google search will tell you this. Try looking before asking!
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I know, I know but Acejavelin said: "I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery."
McKellen said:
I know, I know but Acejavelin said: "I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery."
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Ok, using "highly" and "much better" here might have been a bit overkill... From 1.0 to 2.0 the difference is huge, from 2.0 to 3.0 not so much, especially on a device like this that isn't drawing a ton of current consistently.
Is a 3.0 charger better for the longevity of the battery, and thus the device, over the long term? Yes. Is it significant enough to pay the extra over a 2.0 charger? That's your call... After a year or so of consistent use it might not even make a significant difference in battery life, it may add a month ot two to the longevity of the phone over it's lifespan, no one can say for sure because each case is unique.
My chargers, except car chargers, far out last my phones, I've had the same charger on my nightstand for 4-5 years now (seriously, it's from a Blackberry Playbook) so it's an investment...
I don't understand the issue here... A good QC 3.0 charger is a few bucks more than a 2.0 charger, and if you look you can get one for $10-$12, so is two or three dollars worth worrying about this?
If you are just concerned about what is best for the battery, never use a quick charger at all...
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Ok, using "highly" and "much better" here might have been a bit overkill... From 1.0 to 2.0 the difference is huge, from 2.0 to 3.0 not so much, especially on a device like this that isn't drawing a ton of current consistently.
Is a 3.0 charger better for the longevity of the battery, and thus the device, over the long term? Yes. Is it significant enough to pay the extra over a 2.0 charger? That's your call... After a year or so of consistent use it might not even make a significant difference in battery life, it may add a month ot two to the longevity of the phone over it's lifespan, no one can say for sure because each case is unique.
My chargers, except car chargers, far out last my phones, I've had the same charger on my nightstand for 4-5 years now (seriously, it's from a Blackberry Playbook) so it's an investment...
I don't understand the issue here... A good QC 3.0 charger is a few bucks more than a 2.0 charger, and if you look you can get one for $10-$12, so is two or three dollars worth worrying about this?
If you are just concerned about what is best for the battery, never use a quick charger at all...
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I use right now Aukey QC 2.0 charger and I consider buying QC 3.0 charger so thank you for the explanation.
McKellen said:
I use right now Aukey QC 2.0 charger and I consider buying QC 3.0 charger so thank you for the explanation.
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That is my charger at work... If you have a QC 2.0 charger, don't bother getting a new one. If you are buying one, get a 3.0 one.
I know this thread is a little dated and I'm a late comer to this thread, but I just bought the g5 plus on a black friday deal at best buy $300 down to $225, US xt1678 variant, 64gb storage and 4gb ram, I jsut could not resist it for that price, and....it was actually cheaper than the 32gb storage 2gb ram variant which was listed at $229
Anyways on to my question, this is for acejavelin. You said your qc 2.0 worked and came up as showing turbo charging (not just normal charging)? I hope I am reading this correctly. Also is this one of those Qualcomm® Quick Charge 2.0 chargers, that's what I was looking at buying for my car and was curious if it worked. Just checking to make sure I'm reading the thread correctly.
I recently just bought a 2.1 fast charge lighter plugin, but guess what, it doesn't turbocharge only normal charge. I tried with the cord that came with the phone, as well as 2 other cords and still only normal charge for each one.
Now with my wall charger (the provided turbocharger that came with the g5 plus) in the house, all 3 cords work and show as turbocharge as long as I am using the provided moto turbo charge wall charger.
I also was curious and tried an old samsung charger that I used on I think it was the s4, last samsung I owned lol. With my nexus 5x which has USB-C worked wonderfully with it, but sadly turbo charge does not work so well with the samsung wall charger, because it does not show as turbo charge, but only normal charge on the g5 plus.